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CyberMaster0 12.11.21 07:37 pm

Drop (Diablo 2)

For 2 weeks in a row I have been running the mefa, 80-100 races a day and have not seen anything cooler than a wiper: = (Is this really simple bad luck? oculus shako ... O_o
If I'm not mistaken, here on the forum somewhere there was a similar topic, they also complained about the drop. ?
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Scruber 12.11.21

translate for me ... I don't know English

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ruv 12.11.21

amul - 50 is
also doubtful, 35 max saw
50 is max, everything is correct

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Corrosion 12.11.21

Here is a person who actually sat here for 6 months, waited for someone to confirm his guesses, updated the page every hour and HAPPENED: "50 is max, everything is correct"!

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Malinoviy 12.11.21

that if some high lvl item falls out, then nothing falls for a long time, the exception is the limit of the mf, there the monster always falls out of the monsters, and the chance does not accumulate ... , schenk, cantress, horazont, them, and only then mef and andi. Well, somewhere like that.

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drf 12.11.21

draw conclusions gentlemen,

well, well. I have already made a conclusion about you

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Malinoviy 12.11.21

Oh well. I have already made a conclusion regarding you. I congratulate you.

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rosomaha1987 12.11.21

Maybe I'm wrong, but IMHO if you doddle mf-it in one Persian, then the drop decreases in principle (I read somewhere that it is impossible to collect all the unique / sets with one charm.) Armor even saw the first time)) Or just luck?

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Malinoviy 12.11.21

Maybe I'm wrong, but IMHO if you doddle in one Persian, then the drop is reduced, in principle, I wrote everything in Russian, just bliz made it so that people did not make permanent wounds on bosses, and sometimes they beat ordinary mortals, just by this I also became interested in the question ... I flew many times to the mefa for several weeks, and only to him ... and did not kill anyone except him, the result of the wounds was nothing interesting, but when I started to combine, for example, countress, andi, mef, it became better ... for every 10-15 races a unique ring. Shako dropped out on 30, GA race within the same limits, Arkan Valor, and so on. And I thought why so .. I started looking, and found what I described above ... Believe it or not.
I read somewhere that it is impossible to collect all the unique / sets with one charm. There is a different drop for each class. This is also done so that people change their gear in the battle. And a very long time ago ... If the old versions could buy all the sets from the guide.

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Lermett 12.11.21

LOL, what other fairy tale will you tell?

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drf 12.11.21

There is a different drop for each class.

but the peasants do not even know! (with)

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Corrosion 12.11.21

"There is a different drop for each class. This is also done so that people change their gear in the battle."
Oh her! Something the wind blew in the wrong direction ... Strange, how is it that I can only collect all the sets and unics with just a litter? Looks like I'm a cheater! Like all other players!
Oh, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooous. This is you already bent PPC!

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Thureny 12.11.21

Malinoviy, of course, bent at the expense of the drop chance for a particular class (this is not a priori!). But there is some truth in his words, believe me.

MF is a static characteristic of a drop of items (gear, not runes). What does it give? Just an additional chance (as a percentage of the main percentage) of dropping things from a certain mob. That is, if you take an instant (one-time and random in a certain period of time) chance of item drop, then its chance will increase by% MF from enchant.
But with a drop, the dynamic component is also taken into account. It is not indicated anywhere in any characteristics of gear and enchantment. This is a formula embedded in the gameplay, or rather a function, a function of many variables (it depends on several variables. Those who are familiar with integral and differential calculus will understand me).
The most interesting thing is that this function works constantly (more precisely, it is triggered when killing a mob, while the output value of the function is not a constant, but is another function whose output parameters depend on the killing of the next mob). That is, if you kill mobs in a certain sequence (I mean unique mobs), then the chance of a drop increases significantly (and not "on", as with MF). In other words, there is a certain pattern (if you want, a system) of item drops with a certain pattern of killing mobs (unique). But!!!

This all works only for Unique Items.
This does not apply to Rare (rare, yellow) items. There is another separate system.

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klopovod 12.11.21

Why, Thureny says, if not the truth, then its illusion - for sure (about the dynamics).
There was always a persistent feeling that after a break (not a couple of minutes, but when I came home from school, or even didn’t go to the Persian for a couple of days), the first drops are the best, and then the crawling begins. It's on the classics, what's in the lod'e.

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Lermett 12.11.21

Where is my tambourine for drop jahs ...

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JIyHATuK 12.11.21

I haven't played for a long time, there was nothing to lose, the bot ran for 2 nights. Result: 1st night - griswold crown and TO belt, 2nd night - griswold crown. I looked at the logs - one speck fell.
This is information for thought)) The
account was banned, so the drop could not test further))
Now I'm waiting for a wipe or reset, I don't know what will happen, otherwise there is no point in starting it))

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drf 12.11.21

the output parameters of which depend on the killing of the next mob

nafig a tambourine for jahs! where is my time machine ???



although seriously, I read somewhere that it seems that some things cannot be dropped in one game 2 times from two different mobs (for example, soj)

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RoofLess_ 12.11.21

And I read somewhere that if an old virgin donkey is sacrificed at dawn on Mount Fujiyama on the last day of cherry blossom, then high runes will fall from the mefa for 5 days ...

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Hitlers 12.11.21

: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: -D: - D

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Hitlers 12.11.21

I rummaged everything at least, where to make a sacrifice, and Bliz tied Fujiyama with a meph: -D I'm leaving tomorrow: -D and where can I get a donkey? O_o

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Malinoviy 12.11.21

LOL, what other fairy tale will you tell? - A fairy tale is not a fairy tale, but a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows. :) I don't know about the components and different functions, but try to collect TR in a single, I'll see what happens, the whole set may fall out, except for one thing, the last one, and you will look for it a lot of time, and if you go in another class and run a bit, look, then voila will fall out, how so? )) At the expense of unique people I agree, everything falls for everyone, but set things are unlikely. I still played in Diablo 1, and in the second since its foundation, I will not say that I am an ardent fan, but even then I was playing on LAN with a neighbor, and made my own conclusions about the drop. I always tracked the changes, and I was looking for confirmation of my words for a long time, until I found them on the off site of the battle net, where completely strangers made the same observations about the so-called "mythical class drop". Then the current and the formulas for calculating the mf began to emerge, then the archives were also analyzed, in short everything then the current began, all these arguments about the drop, rumors, and so on. But again, again, who can show me the game code? And show the exact formula for calculating the mf? Blizzard are not simple guys, and they did a lot of time for the second, they had time to write a bunch of functions, and think about how everything should work. I just may not be right, but I have not seen the code, and I cannot approve. I don't really care, you can count me as a dreamer, so be it. This is your business. I gave information, and there are already your problems, consider as useful, or discard as useless. But again, again, who can show me the game code? And show the exact formula for calculating mf? Blizzard are not simple guys, and they did a lot of time for the second, they had time to write a bunch of functions and think about how everything should work. I just may not be right, but I have not seen the code, and I cannot approve. I don't really care, you can count me as a dreamer, so be it. This is your business. I gave information, and there are already your problems, consider as useful, or discard as useless. But again, again, who can show me the game code? And show the exact formula for calculating mf? Blizzard are not simple guys, and they did a lot of time for the second, they had time to write a bunch of functions, and think about how everything should work. I just might not be right, but I haven't seen the code, and I can't approve. I don't really care, you can count me as a dreamer, so be it. This is your business. I gave information, and there are already your problems, consider as useful, or discard as useless. This is your business. I gave information, and there are already your problems, consider as useful, or discard as useless. This is your business. I gave information, and there are already your problems, consider as useful, or discard as useless.
And Thureny Thank you, but (I don't want to offend you) in your words, a function that depends on a bunch of variables may well depend on a character class? It's just people who have been playing battle since the beginning of time. They may not understand this problem. After all, they can exchange or buy the missing thing. And in the single? I was just doing my observations on the single. Perhaps now at 1.12 the drop has been changed, whether the drop has been changed to pg, no one can say for sure. Therefore, I propose such a thing, let people playing in Diabla here on PG, write their observations on the drop of things. After all, there is no absolute randomness. These are all functions. Perhaps according to Thureny's theory, it will be possible to calculate a specific route, and I think that would help many MFinders.