Dropping frames and freezes in games on Windows 7

GregorusFokin
A question from the category of telepathy. Is it in the OS? Do other OSes
have similar problems? Maybe a conflict of drivers of some
devices - then pull out all of them temporarily.
PS In general, it is better to ask such a question on the "Program" forum.
There will be more people to see. I will even transfer.

AlSar
It's about the system, I guess.
For I did not specifically install either software or drivers for a long time. After a while, twitches appear.
After all, if there were conflicts, then the lags took place from the very beginning of the installation, and not after a magical week.

On Win8.1 the situation is the same. At first everything is fine, after a while the system gets old, it takes longer to load and the games go a little worse.

GregorusFokin
It's about the system, I guess. <...> On Win8,1 the situation is the same.
And here I already have more thoughts on iron are guided.
after a while the system gets old, it takes longer to load and the games go a little worse.
In a good way, a completely clean system works faster than a configured one,
but due to the lack of drivers it is not usable. But after installing all the
necessary and supporting software, its speed should remain constant
for a long time with appropriate maintenance and regular cleaning.
Let me give you an example: everyone knows the blue running strip at the start of WinXP.
So, on a freshly installed OS, there are always exactly 6 passes of these strips
before loading into the GUI. After tuning, this value increases to 7.5 passes for me.
For a month of use, depending on the intensity, the load is slowed down
to 8 or even 9 passes, but no more. After cleaning, it returns to 7.5.
7ka in this respect is more tolerant and less prone to self-clogging.
I can’t say anything about 8ke, I didn’t use it on my PC, I’m only familiar with a hat.
PS As for cleaning software, I would recommend the Auslogics BoostSpeed ​​package.
And not the latest version of the 7th, or already the 8th generation, but the proven 5th,
namely v5.5.1.0. The following ones have been severely truncated for ease of use.

AlSar
Hardly connected with iron. After all, at first everything is in order.
And speaking of a fresh system, I'm talking about a system that has just been installed and has a package of necessary software and drivers already installed. After all, at first everything is in order ...

And thank you for the advice regarding the package, we'll try it)

GregorusFokin
Hardly connected with iron. After all, at first everything is in order.
And for me - such a frequency of problems and inclines in his direction.
First of all, I would evaluate the power supply, whether the PSU power is sufficient in different lines.
Maybe it makes sense to change? It is the BP that is able to die "periodically".
just installed and has the
package of necessary software and drivers already installed
. A, here's the thing. Okay, I misunderstood.
And thank you for the advice regarding the package, we'll try it) You are
always welcome. I've been using it regularly since 2011 with no problems. It is optimal
to clean once a month, I time it by the middle of the month. Just after
OS updates are released, they also clog temporary files during installation.
Updated, then in order - cleaning temporary, history, registry, defragmentation.

nothing is clear what software where what games
if the computer has 4 gigabytes of RAM, then this is very small. most likely the swap file is selected by the system from 4 to 8 gigs. let's say it's a little bit however if sdd then the paging file problem should go away.
Windows 8 seems to love RAM even more than Vista-7, so there should be a lot of gigs
. Test something drifty in 2010-12 like darksiders2 masseffect3 if there are friezes and there is driver or hardware.
nada give a kick to the zhyfors experience so that it succeeds
if it doesn’t help to clean up the firewood with the help of special programs for removing drivers and install older parks from summer ago.
It is also worth looking to see if the iron is overheating there. The temperature on the GPU should not exceed 80 g in the CPU 60-70 benchmarks. There is a possibility that the overheating protection is activated.

GregorusFokin
So not to iron a question, by no means.
Well, according to you, yes.
this one found a few more problems.
Yes, this package cleans deeper than CCleaner or any programs I've tried.

MunchkiN 616
if the computer has 4 gigabytes of RAM, then this is very little
Depending on the purpose. And he says, after all, that 2x4, i.e. 8GB
Windows 8 seems to love RAM even more than Vista-
7 Of course,
the level of XP is unattainable, but it is already much better than Vista, and much better than 7k.
There is a possibility that the overheating protection is activated.
By the way, that's a good idea. If friezes are only in toys, it may well be
throttling. However, the author claims that he monitors the temperature. Maybe he is mistaken
in the optimal temperature regime of his iron, if only.

MunchkiN 616
I have 8 GB of RAM, and throttling on my processor will only turn on after 72 grams, as far as I understand.
In games above 58 does not rise.
The video card above 70 is not heated, on average, 50 gr is kept. But the temperature does not affect the performance of the GPU. 90 degrees is far from the worst temperature for a GPU.

Again, why, even if these are overheating protections (and in the case of a GPU, the computer simply reboots), then why do they only work a week after using the PC, even if the updates were cut down? Conclusion: it is not connected with iron.

MunchkiN 616
if a computer has 4 gigabytes of RAM, then this is very little

Oh, what specialists have appeared. Is this enough for all games? Or will it work for Crisis 1-2 on Vin7? And heaps of other games that don't require DX10 and even run on XP.

Z.Y. Really, 2 GB is not enough for Vista, and for many games on 2 GB, Seven is better?

VITYA_KOLYADENKO
Well, of course, not for everyone. for dota, ks maybe it’s ok
to get out of the game. I, purely for interest, took out all the bars, left 4giga, launched the inquisotra, he laid it and flew out.
cruises can already be attributed to pastgen, there are no textures, there is nothing and they are set up differently.

I've solved the problem of friezes on a laptop by cutting off the Internet of antiviruses, etc. and increasing the fp to 12 gigs at 8gb op. otherwise, for example, he played Wunch Dog and after 40 minutes he began to freeze terribly. It didn't completely solve the problem.
and here if the friezes come weeks later and before that everything works perfectly, this is of course some kind of soft character problem. maybe you should put another Windows.

MunchkiN 616
in the latest games yubasota kalofduti the same zhta 5

Well, that means I didn’t play this. I wrote about the Crisis (on 1 GB of video memory, so the textures are not the best). Well, StarWars still played from Lucas (the game is more recent, but sometimes it works for consoles), but it requires little memory (on XP, even 2 GB of RAM went).

About "no textures" - I did not understand. There are different quality settings, but I played like this:
1) Cruise 1 - everything is on medium, it seems to be drawn and with anti-aliasing, but turned it off;
2) Cruise 2 - without high textures, the first level of graphics (these are the minimum wages or something, there are dibly names).

Basically, the emphasis is probably on the percentage (Celeron 1005 1.9 GHz, it seems to be worse than the minimum for StarWars 2).
Z.Y. The laptop is the simplest, so I took the resolution:
Cruise 1 - 1024x768;
Cruise 2 - 1366x768.

VITYA_KOLYADENKO
so how many computers do you have?
Cruise has very specific system requirements. 2 giga ram 512mb gpu other requirements are requirements for video card and cpu. and I don't know if it eats more than 512. although more or less I played it on a 2nd card with a gig per chip.

just the reasons for the friezes (and not stable brakes) I have detected the following
1. the student has a 1-1.5 GB card. the schoolboy slows down all the next-gen games, and the ac unit is about 10fps. only some games should work well on minimum without anti-aliasing. but this is not usually the case with students.
2. Mom did not give the student more than 2GB for a video card. those card with 2GB (oh yes, that's me). when setting memory-dependent settings, such a student will freeze all games if he tries to play with anti-aliasing and settings above average.
The situation can only be saved by i7 4xxx i5 4xxx in which express 3.0 x16 directly into the processor will level out frequent memory accesses. if a student has 2 video cards, for example 690, like mine, then nothing will save him. well, maybe only lga 2011.
3. the student has everything at the maximum, but the card is 3gb and the processor does not have an ex3-16 line, and this is some fx, for example, where 5gbps. with everything at the maximum, there will also be an excessive memory access and bathherts COMP TOP! Krivorukov do not know how to optimize!!!!111. such students are recommended to play without smoothing and without fhaa.
4. the student has a hair dryer 2 4x or terminator x6. a fairly common occurrence. too slow cache and bus by modern standards. (how things will be if you put a thetan with 6 gigs or something with 4 gigs, I honestly don’t know. I haven’t met such people)
5. not far from his brother, a schoolboy went to amd fx. but amd fx itself is not so much the cause of friezes as it is not playable up to a frequency of 4 GHz. with fx 8350 over 4.5-5GHz and even 6xxx at the same frequency, a schoolboy can play like a master if he doesn’t think of putting 2 chips with a small amount of GPU memory or a slicing of 770 2GB, etc. then he will catch bathurts.
6. the student has 4GB of RAM. the evil joke is that he will be able to run games, but most likely he will suffer anally. moreover, most likely he has a hair dryer 2 or something from the past.
7. Comrades with 6 gigs, I somehow saw little. I assume that there is still weak iron, so it is difficult to draw a conclusion whether 6GB is a problem.
8. the student was greedy or the mother was greedy when assembling a relatively new lump. in a computer costs 8 gigabytes of solo one payment. the schoolboy is punished for greed in the most mysterious and unexpected way.
9. paging file - paging file. everyone who has 16-32 gigabytes or more is probably not the problem. I myself am rather muddy because some games like the swap file, some do not. in any case, from a 16-24 gigabyte swap file, I think it will not be bad, although they say blah blah slows down the disk. if we are talking about a stationary computer with a lot of RAM - I think not. However, I have not studied this problem yet. there are not enough statistical bathhurts.
9.1. some people say you need an ssd. I think not. enough 2 hards. when recording a video game automatically 3rd hard under the video. but since they say I don’t have powerful hardware and ssd - most are not mistaken.
10. a schoolboy poked around on torrents, collected adware and all his games began to lag terribly. the problem is in the adware and a special virus that loads the GPU. I have 2 GPUs, I somehow played and wondered why I had such a program. useful or not. yes, io eats some memory and probably often makes requests. purely for the experiment, I tested how my games work with this. Vuch Dogs finally got up tightly. I suppose the thicker and faster the card, the more imperceptibly its influence. another good reason.

if you wax yourself and your problems somewhere from the above, you find out that this is the norm for you PeKa.

MunchkiN 616
for everyone who has 16-32 gigabytes and more, this problem most likely does not concern
Now I measure 3 FPS in Cruises. 8 GB RAM, 2 GB VRAM, FullHD. Hard has 2 GB swap file (but the system is on SSD). Somewhere in the range of 33-36 FPS (like everything is at the maximum).

VITYA_KOLYADENKO
kruzis 3 is a pastgen, he doesn't seem to need more than 4GB. although I may be wrong. I played on a computer in 2008 with 8 gigs, only with a new card, my fps was extremely diverse until I turned the settings above the maximum.
All next-gen games, those modern ones, are interesting in that they don’t eat much memory when measured, but if they are deprived of gigs. sometimes even up to 8 gigs they start to slow down and lag, regardless of the settings affecting the video memory in my case.

MunchkiN 616
cruise 3 is pastgen
Well, I didn't buy the system for a million :)

Well, the question is, in what resolution did they play. My fps seems to be more or less stable yesterday.