Henry Tomasino (Mafia 2)
Why do you think Henry began to work for the feds, kind of cool gangster and sold to the cops?As for me Henry was one of the most interesting characters. And I don't think he was a rat. In this case, I already said it all -j.o.k.e.r-.
Henry was a rat,it's true.But it is better to call an FBI agent,his mystery,beauty,religiosity,have no girlfriend,his job strange and treacherous,you wonder?Very interesting and mysterious Henry,Yes, even in the circular Saw,he was reminded of the agent,embedded in the mafia.Vito almost solved it,but suddenly a Fat man and it had to go.
By the way, apparently Henry was an agent the whole story. I think stealing coupons have been caught Vito and Joe at this time would have to fail another assignment, or was Henry just Joe (he's a lot of connections he had, maybe it was necessary to put him), so he gave them to help. And how evil the cops are somewhere nearby with the Department. Shortly after the beginning of the robbery for some reason is very quickly becoming is known about him (the dispatcher sent the cops to the Mall, or they're rumbled?). And after the shooting, somehow, once the cops came.
I must admit that Henry was a rat.Interestingly,for those 6 years Vito spent in jail,Henry was raised in the Family,though he is a true professional!He even Capo did not,why would it!
Andrew GUNgster
So well, let's say from the very beginning was a rat.Then, according to which,in all the time,because Henry was in the family and until Joe and Vito,its not who brought clean water?And why it did not disclose while Vito was in prison?And here is what the Chinese took it and exposed it?Nonsense...As I wrote above,it seems to me that Henry's Chinese was not pleasing,it removed,but that would not have started the war,they(the Chinese) are all shoved to the fact that Henry was a rat.
No Henry is not a traitor and not a rat, at least, no evidence of this. It is possible to speak with certainty, analyzing what is happening in-game events.
In the first place. To believe that Henry is guilty of the setup with petrol coupons, Vito's should be inflated to the heavens themselves. Who was he to for him to start the whole operation, to risk that kind of exposure? Underling, a pawn, boy, which is still nothing and nothing has done this to be of interest to any intelligence Agency. Well, in fact, that the fraud with coupons – an act worthy of a conspiratorial agent, such Stirlitz, the purpose of which – the tip of the mafia, its leaders? Even if Henry and rat, this episode in no way is this proof. In any case, Henry Vito where needed in the wild as assistant to whom he could entrust dangerous things. If you kill, do not mind, expendable. What Vito got caught, says only that the police not only stupid idiots work. As for this little thing they have their brains be enough.
Secondly. We offer as evidence the history of the drug is also sewn with white thread. Judge for yourself. If Henry was a rat, the cops would be real and not costumed. And help would have arrived police squads, or special forces, not suspicious types in black limousines. Here again the question of motives. Why Henry substitute sixes that he needed assistants? This mess started by the Chinese themselves, and without the mafia, one of the families (or its remnants) is also not done. Not for nothing it became known almost in the same day. How else would the mafia could get information? It is unlikely Henry ran still spread. Rat or not, it is not profitable in both cases. And this is hardly the case of the moneylender. Trinity he have money, why would he want to upset their business? Moral reasons? And what then the Chinese boss was justified, like, why do we own factory to destroy is nothing more than a bad excuse. Well, who could imagine that three dudes arrange the real Armageddon?
And finally, in the third. The Chinese, after the three of them gave them a hefty kick, had to keep a good face on a bad game. Thus chose the only correct tactics: divide and conquer. Killed Henry. He agreed with them on it and responsibility. And mafia they are not hit, started to avenge the death of his man said that he was a rat. The leaders of the mafia people are intelligent and cynical, this does not take away from them. They understand that "better a bad peace than a good quarrel". It is more profitable to accept that Henry was a rat and remove two more sixes bespredelschik than to start a full-scale war with the Chinese.
It's simple. This is just politics.
Lyuxs
Done all at once became clear. And I still don't really understand what in the end happened ( all too confusing ), and your message understood, thank you)) I Agree with everything.
Of course it would be interesting to know if Henry is a rat or not! but on the way Joes Adventure so you need to know what Joe was doing while Vito was in prison!
Lyuxs, excuse me, but Mafia 2 is just a game, and the consistency of the plot depends only on the salaries of writers. The probability that Henry is a rat - 50%. The same as the probability that Henry rat was not. And that's it. Everyone lives in his own world, with his point of view, and it is just the same kind of situation in which it is impossible to come to a consensus, because it does not have all the facts.
PS And I understand still trying to catch thoughts and motives of human beings, but to the motives of the npc to try to understand... Uh... It's aerobatics, probably, if it turns out.
Personally, I Henry at first seemed a normal person, but what I saw (or rather heard) struck me.
FreeLSD
Mafia 2 - just a game, and the consistency of the plot depends only on the salaries of writers.
Agree that in addition to the salary there are categories such as talent, skill, professionalism, the author's self-esteem, the art in the end. I don't know how, I will never allow myself to write blatant nonsense, regardless of the fee. The writers Mafia 2 - people are definitely talented, to analyze their creation is a pleasure. There is nothing to talk about, there is something to ponder, to argue about it. Example Henry is in this respect very revealing. Whether he's a traitor or not ... I'm trying to prove that there is. The facts that are in the game, not give definitive answers, but leave a wide field for reflection and debate. I like it.
understand still trying to catch thoughts and motives of human beings, but to the motives of the npc to try to understand...
But what about the numerous writings of scholars-literary critics, devoted to the analysis of the works of Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin (the row, you know, is endless)? There are also trying to capture the thoughts and motives of fictional characters. So what's the difference? To analyze literary characters - can characters in the movie too. Than the game worse?
Saw another, albeit indirect, evidence that Henry is not a traitor.
It – hereditary mafia. His father was a member of the Sicilian mafia. "He was a man of honor," says Henry about it. The father was attached to Henry in one of the mafia families in the New world. Such social heredity – means a lot in determining the behavior, motivation. Henry was brought up in an atmosphere of respect and reverence for this criminal organization. Of course, honor and loyalty to the ideals – the concept is quite ephemeral and are not an absolute guarantee against betrayal. But the probability in this situation is reduced significantly.
Lyuxs,
How numerous writings of scholars-literary critics, devoted to the analysis of the works of Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Pushkin (the row, you know, is endless)? There are also trying to capture the thoughts and motives of fictional characters. So what's the difference? To analyze literary characters - can characters in the movie too. Than the game worse?
If the question is posed, the game is no worse, and movies and books - is no better.
It's one thing to analyze, and the other is wishful thinking. Than, among other things, deals with the success of most of the scientists-literary critics. It was interesting to read the analysis of some works from this century, and then the opinion of the author about the analysis. But it is easier, somehow, to analyze the labor of those people who did not survive to our time...
You will agree that besides the salary there are categories such as talent, skill, professionalism, the author's self-esteem, the art in the end. I don't know how, I will never allow myself to write blatant nonsense, regardless of the fee. The writers Mafia 2 - people are definitely talented, to analyze their creation is a pleasure. There is nothing to talk about, there is something to ponder, to argue about it. Example Henry is in this respect very revealing. Whether he's a traitor or not ... I'm trying to prove that there is. The facts that are in the game, not give definitive answers, but leave a wide field for reflection and debate. I like it.
Agree. If you look carefully, these categories really are. If you look very well. Really hard to believe that in our time, a man without a penny in his pocket and a piece of bread in the stomach will defend its interests and will defend them to the end. But anything can happen...
Rumor has it that the development (or refinement) there are two major additions, one of which may, as time and fill in the gaps in the history of Henry Tomasino, so how to play we will be there for him. It would be a nice step from the developers, and unrealized for the writer has not gone in vain.
And yet - Yes, yet, you can do what I like.
P. S. Usually to write some nonsense the writers come up with the pseudonym. As practice shows, all benefit from this - as a writer and reader. And what can we say that some stuff could become very popular, and the writer will come out of the shadows of a pseudonym that would swim in glory...
FreeLSD
It's one thing to analyze, and the other is wishful thinking. Than, among other things, deals with the success of most of the scientists-literary critics. It was interesting to read the analysis of some works from this century, and then the opinion of the author about the analysis. But it is easier, somehow, to analyze the labor of those people who did not survive to our time...
It's a science, you're talking about! And modern authors are analyzed and they are only happy if a solid e mail: pay for them your favorable opinion no matter positive feedback or negative. In any case, it would mean that the said author does not wonder paper maral.
Writers of the past and analyze more often because more of the works of predecessors on which to draw. Although something new here to come up with is already difficult. But the level of ambition of the scientist depends on whether he needs the novelty of a new perspective on the subject.
On the other hand, what is desired and what is valid? Other science for several millennia trying to answer this question. And a clear answer is still not received.
And do you really think that everything is just the salary depend on? Put some ignoramus who two words can not, which is not at all a fantasy, to write a script (or a regular article) and give it a-Oh-Oh-Ohm retainer. A lot of you accumulated? In the best case, if smart, will find someone who will be able to make it work. But as practice shows, most often he will look for excuses to leave the hospital, etc. And it concerns not only Pisarchuk, and representatives of all professions. Decent pay can only stimulate the zeal to work, it is not the basis for its successful execution.
Usually to write some nonsense the writers come up with an alias
Somewhere ever heard the phrase there is No stupid writer, who would not find the same stupid reader. The taste and color as they say...
Rumor has it that the development (or refinement) there are two major additions
Oh, I wish it was.
More additions are good and different! No matter what the topic.
Lуuxs
It's a science, you're talking about! And modern authors are analyzed and they are only happy if a respectable scientist will pay to them your a favorable opinion no matter positive feedback or negative. In any case, it would mean that the said author does not wonder paper maral.
Exactly! And be happy even when the analysis comes to conclusions opposite of what the author had in mind. Because:
1. If the author analyzed respectable scientists, so the author really is not in vain maral paper (sorry to paraphrase You).
2. Black PR is valid progressive white. If the analysis revealed the negative side of the work - the better for the author. The author of the popular. The author is not profitable to challenge a solid opinion of reputable scholars. Even if it is fundamentally not true. But because he's not trying. And it is, perhaps, no one complained of the analysis (though complained of, had, without this in any way, just to eliminate them quietly or complained of strangers in their personal blogs).
On the other hand, what is desired and what is valid? Other science for several millennia trying to answer this question. And a clear answer is still not received.
I mean, if wishful thinking, it is desired in the end can turn\into the actual (different subjective reality still has an excellent impact on each other). But to me it is not profitable, as I'm on the other side of the barricades, and have to argue. Even when fully accepted by the opponent side (as in this case).
And do you really think that everything is just the salary depend on? Put some ignoramus who two words can not, which is not at all a fantasy, to write a script (or a regular article) and give it a-Oh-Oh-Ohm retainer. A lot of you accumulated? In the best case, if smart, will find someone who will be able to make it work. But as practice shows, most often he will look for excuses to leave the hospital, etc. And it concerns not only Pisarchuk, and representatives of all professions. Decent pay can only stimulate the zeal to work, it is not the basis for its successful execution.
Trying to understand why You decided that I think so. In the messages, like, plain text does not. Your personal assumptions? Wrong analysis of my posts?
And of course, I'm an idiot, but not enough to plant some ignoramus to write a script\article, and not rich enough to even fee to pay. Even for the sake of experiment, because now everything is obvious (and ignoramuses don't have friends, except myself). Let me fee, and the topic and content of the article will discuss later.
Somewhere ever heard the phrase there is No stupid writer, who would not find the same stupid reader. The taste and color as they say...
Because even smart writers actively use it, as small a silly little book can earn good money. And there already and to a great, smart project at hand.
Oh, I wish it was.
More additions are good and different! No matter what the topic.
Um... booga booga booga or what...