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WASWAS 11.01.20 11:14 pm

Coding from alcoholism for and against

Do you think coding is that....
For example, the Church is against this type of treatment
Your opinions gentlemen
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Ankh 8 11.01.20

The collectin
Without the Mat.

On the topic. While he did not throw want - no one can help you.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Ankh 8
Well, if he is not able then ?

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Honey Cocaine 11.01.20

WASWAS
Thump on

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Inteprio
So it is true, but if the alcohol bothers you....

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Pseudaletia. About the encoding.

“Enter through the narrow gate, because wide is the gate and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many go in thereat, because Strait is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and few there be that find it” (Matt.7, 13-14).

In society “Sobriety”, which is located at the Church of the Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky Novo-Tikhvin women's monastery, suffering from alcoholism and their relatives often ask the question, “Can an Orthodox person be encoded?”.

“Coding” is perhaps the most popular to date methods of treatment of addictions. The word “coding” carries a certain mystique and allegedly “scientific”. Considerable support for the popularization of this method have the media and advertising. But what is coding? Why very often after encoding start drinking worse still, often damaged psyche, a mind? If it's good, then why is the fetus?

The French word “code” comes from the Latin “inscription”. In the process of encoding using this mark (the ritual) to the person in fact involved the devils, who now will “help” him not to drink alcohol or not to smoke, or to be “drying out” his “help” to lose weight.

Coding involves the fear associated with the survival instinct. The impact is directed only to cause a person fear of the consequences of alcohol or tobacco because of the violation of the “code”.

The session pronounced the text along the following lines: “Now I lay in your brain, the special anti-alcohol code. From now on it will be to control your behavior, not for one second without disappearing from your brain even during sleep. Code will be stored deeply in your subconscious. From now on you will not be able to consume alcoholic beverages. Any dose of alcohol during the period of validity of the code is dangerous to your health and can lead to death.” That is, the method of treatment based on the principle of deterrence.

And in the most extreme cases is it possible to use encoding from alcohol or tobacco?

And wine drinking and tobacco Smoking is not only a disease, but prior to this illness the passion of the soul, which leads man to stay in this purely sinful and painful condition. In this sense, any impact on it, which is not associated with personal achievement, effort, desire to overcome it – even then, pain, flour – mastered them passion not be final. Passion is not cured by pills. As it is impossible man proud by some psychotropes effect upon him to make merciful and loving, so it is impossible to cure a person with a sinful addiction to alcohol and tobacco by some temporary effects on certain centers of his psychosomatic existence. This treatment one way or another will respond. Unresolved passion will manifest in some other form.

Encoders on the sessions used, as they say, a “wonderful power”, “secret knowledge.” At all times, was God's chosen saints whom the Lord awarded a gift of healing for their humility, truthfulness, righteous life. They truly treated the power of the divine. What kind of power are treated encoders? Give the Lord His gift to the man who does not go to Church, do not confess, do not Partake of the Holy Mysteries. Encoders tear the forbidden fruit, wanting immediately, without difficulty, Christian, without a feat to the gift of healing, and receive it from “helpfully devil.” And the consequences have been for “doctors” and “patients” is very bad, because the devils are not able to do good, and always create a Mirage, an illusion of goodness. “How can Satan ishonadi?” (MK.3:23).

The gospel teaches us to change, we need to work hard. And what happens when encoding? In fact, the man asks: do anything you want, here's the money, but that I wasn't drinking. And he offered something, giving it the power of demonic forces. And this leads to harmful changes in the human soul.

And how brainwashed people are suffering! Because sin remained in their hearts unrepentant. It can only change its appearance. Hence the encoded frequent depressions, terrible irritability, anxiety. Often there are serious physical illness. Coded remains in a strong tension of spiritual forces. This, I may say, “treatment”, brings people obvious harm and suffering. Coding is the broad path leading to destruction. Indeed, as easy – I went to the session paid a decent amount and “coded” Smoking, drinking wine, and health and sobriety are provided. For healing from the disease of alcoholism we need repentance, spiritual transformation, inner growth. The coding of this does not.

Therefore, the coding is absolutely unacceptable for the afflicted. It is easy to encode. But where is the personality? That man made to become the other? Is it important for us to ensure that the person has ceased to drink, if he will then start to fornicate or lose a fortune in the gaming houses? It was important to change the attitude toward sin, to create the desire life with God. Living without alcohol and tobacco is not an indication that the person was freed from addiction. Therefore, those who were coded, of course, must first confess and repent, if you want to change, improve their lives, to be truly free and get rid of the fatal passion.

Complete healing is impossible without a deep personal and free to rethink his life, acquiring and assumption of responsibility for their own lives. If people understand that life is a precious gift from God, then he will gratefully bring it to the light of Christ. “Without me ye can tvoriti necesare” (Jn.15, 5).



About the terrible fate encoded

The priest Alex Frost in the book “Human destiny” is the story “Volodya”, which tells the real story about the terrible fate encoded. We give a small excerpt.

“At one time, he scared drink. Then there was a coding from alcoholism in St. Petersburg. For some time, the passion subsided, but then began to happen terrible binges. In these times Volodya had become unmanageable, with an ax attacked his wife could beat any any person. From the Orthodox point of view, it was an obvious obsession. The encoder, in fact, only changed the “specialization” Besa: Volodya did not drink, but when drinking, take him out of this state was almost impossible. The devil was found in Volodya, and Volodya understood it perfectly. And if you have time to come to Church, to confess, to commune, everything was back to normal...

Then one day came the terrible news: Vladimir burned. It so happened. Volodya suddenly ceased to pray, read the gospel, became irritable. Then she drank. Fits of wild aggression filled his soul. It was a real obsession. Wife, daughter ran away, hid from the neighbors. With an axe in the hands of Vladimir was running and looking for them in the village. Night the village was awakened by a wild scream. This is Volodya doused himself with gasoline and struck a match”.

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Honey Cocaine 11.01.20

WASWAS
Put nishtyak,I don't know - to find an alternative.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Inteprio
Do not understand what you meant Put nishtyak

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Honey Cocaine 11.01.20

WASWAS
Well and good, yet small means.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Inteprio
So enlighten a man who 30 years behind code

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AntoXe59 11.01.20

Games with the human psyche often lead to tragic consequences. While the human psyche is not explored to go into her dangerous. Against.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

AntoXe59
Who told you that the mind is not studied ?

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WASWAS 11.01.20

About the origin of the method

Coding from alcoholism is used in addiction for over half a century.

During this time there have been numerous methods used for the treatment of alcohol dependence hypnotic techniques, psychotherapeutic and medication effects.

In the history of the psychotherapeutic methods of coding the most important milestones can be considered the method of G. A. Shichko, which is based on introspection and autosuggestion, as well as coding method Dovzhenko, based on the suggestion of the prohibitions with a focus on the immediate deterioration of health.

The most important step to create medical methods of coding was the discovery in the 40-ies of XX century sensitizing effect of disulfiram.

On the basis of modern pharmacology has created a lot of drugs – Esperal oral tablets and tablets for sewing, Sulfamidic-suspension, Antabuse, Teturam and many others.

Over time, practice has shown that not always the effects of one method gives the desired result. Therefore, various methods of coding from alcoholism were combined using them in treatment. So, medications are assigned with the primary goal of suppressing alcohol.

Then their background is psychotherapy, or connected non-specific methods such as acupuncture, intravenous ozone therapy, plasmapheresis, etc.
A description of the method

Coding from alcoholism, whether medical procedure or a session of suggestion starts with a conversation with the patient, clarify the history of the disease, sometimes require a survey of relatives.

For any coding prerequisite is the patient's compliance with a certain period of sobriety before the procedure. Usually it is 3-5 days to 2 weeks.

The next necessary condition is the consent of the patient. The doctor is obliged to explain all the forthcoming manipulations, to talk about the possible consequences and complications, to warn of precautions.

In cases of medical coding – for example, if you have the sewing Esperal or implantation of the torpedo, in addition to conduct the necessary laboratory techniques: tests for blood clotting, liver function tests, blood biochemical parameters, etc.

Only after that the doctor decides on the choice of drug and its dosage. Further action depends on the selected encoding method.

When encoding psychotherapeutic methods usually, the session begins with a General lecture about alcohol and the consequences of his admission. Followed by suggestive part, during which the suggestion is made and then the data of the patient setup are secured by special methods.

Coding by implanting drugs — sewing the ampoules from alcoholism, the introduction of a suspension subcutaneous is carried out for 1-2 hours because all the main points and a discussion of techniques going on during the preliminary conversation.

The term encoding is determined individually, based on the wishes of the patient and the collected history of the disease, and ranges from 1 month to 5 years.
The consequences

Coding (both medical and using gipnosuggestevna technician) on physiological and psychological level, "teaches" the body to tolerate alcohol not only as a terrible poison.

After a session of even a small dose of alcohol causes the patient the most discomfort – from the irrepressible vomiting, headache, and sweating, until sudden vascular collapse, respiratory failure and cardiac activity.

As a result the nervous system produces a kind of negative reflex towards alcohol. Alcohol already is not accompanied by pleasant sensations, sometimes turning to the patient in real torture Sometimes for a full refusal of alcohol is enough knowledge about the possible consequences of a breach of the ban.
Reviews

Coding from alcoholism causes controversial opinions. Many patients find this procedure is 100% effective, and after a single session quit drinking for a few years, if ever.

Others argue that immediately after the procedure can leave the office and go to drink alcohol, that will cause only slight discomfort. It should be noted that this category belong, as a rule, the person who came to procedure coding from alcoholism solely under pressure or by the urgent plaintive request of relatives. They themselves have no desire to fight with his illness, and did not consider him a threat.

Coding efficiency depends largely on the chosen method of influence, of the drug, the forms of its administration, the presence or absence of provocation, as well as from individual characteristics of the patient.

Young men with good health can experience after drinking alcohol on the background of encoding only a weak reaction. But this does not mean that the drug had no effect. Liver will suffer from acetaldehyde, no less.

As a result, after some time there will come the inevitable deterioration. And may join, and severe pathology of the liver and kidneys.

Remember: coding from alcoholism is not a panacea, it's just a technique that allows some time to maintain a sober lifestyle, give the patient a chance at a meaningful decision in favor of abandoning alcohol.

But ultimately, the success of treatment depends on the person himself, his willingness to radically change the way of life, his determination and will, the presence of incentives and desires to a sober existence.

For this reason, often the coding is recommended in conjunction with psychotherapeutic methods of treatment, such as the method of V. G. Zhdanov, courses of family psychotherapy, meeting in different societies sobriety like AA.

And yet, it's safe to say that coding from alcoholism one of the most effective methods to combat alcoholism. The proof is the existence of coding methods in the Arsenal of every drug clinic.
Contraindications

Coding from alcoholism, despite the seeming harmlessness, is a serious interference in the physiological and emotional psychological processes in the body. Before starting coding, it is necessary to exclude the presence of contraindications.

These include:
— severe cardiovascular disease (angina and quiet, hypertension stage II-III, moved for less than 2 months ago, myocardial infarction, or the presence of predinfarktnogo state;
— severe liver disease with severe disorders – hepatic failure, liver cirrhosis, acute hepatitis, toxic;
— moved stroke;
— acute or chronic renal failure;
— diabetes, thyroid disease;
— epilepsy;
— pregnancy or suspicion on it;
— the presence of neuropsychiatric diseases;
— alcohol intoxication, withdrawal syndrome;
— infectious diseases in the acute stage;
state, accompanied by a significant increase in body temperature.



After the session you need constant surveillance of a physician. In the event of an unintentional or deliberate violations of the prohibition (of alcohol), it is necessary to immediately consult a doctor so-called "decoding" — the introduction of the antidote and the course of detoxification treatment.

It is important that the removal of the encoding is necessary to know the exact name, form, dosage of the drug, as well as mandatory – a particular manufacturer. Usually after a session of medical coding, the patient is given a certificate, which details all the characteristics of medications used for manipulation.

However, despite the existence of such a document, some clinics do not undertake to carry out the procedure neutralize "foreign" - coded patients. It is best to address this issue in the same clinic, where it was performed the coding from alcoholism.

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Gumb0ld 11.01.20

Why coded? It's so dangerous, can become crazy. It is better to continue to drink Putinka.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Gumb0ld
so in fact from Putinka can shoot horses, don't you dear ???

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Infiltrator 11.01.20

I know a case when a person was under the influence of this procedure,but he said drink,then die,he broke down and drank one.Most shocking thing practically healthy people died for no apparent reason.Possible all sorts of mental encoding and invasion of the human mind so really can hurt.So against such acts.

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Tendegern 11.01.20

I for - 100% for! Maybe this... harsh, but effective.

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Infiltrator 11.01.20

This is a man is deprived of the main,that is freedom. I think everyone decides for himself to drink or not. Generally you want to breathe,then breathe. For example I'm a smoker and I know that shortening my life and dying a bit,but that's my choice .

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AntoXe59 11.01.20

WASWAS
And mankind at least one science has studied up to the end? We for all time of existence asked trillions of times more questions than answered them. Nothing really nesochen, but there are many techniques of hypnosis and similar crap, but again, not at all, they act and sometimes unpredictable results. From speech to the full Congress of the roof. The simplest is not to start drinking. I for example don't drink or smoke at all. I just don't need.

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WASWAS 11.01.20

Without A Name
This is a man is deprived of the main,that is freedom, this is the correct reasoning
I like people who know coding 100% sure that Freedom of choice is the most important thing a person.
5 months I did not drink, and then just decided that you need to remove the code and live a full life and believe during these 5 months were headaches and the dreams and other dregs like this...

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absurdus elementum 11.01.20

The reason drunkenness is clearly not in alcohol. So the encoded/not encoded.