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Rayan_Kuper 18.09.19 08:09 pm

Are there real psychics?

On the Internet write that ostensibly on the Ground do there are people with extraordinary abilities, who can cure human diseases, to predict the future, etc. and these people are never themselves never show and do not take money, and that unit of people. And to those very hard to get into.
What do you think? Is it true that all what is written there, or is it all fiction?
I'm still more inclined to the truth.
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robespier26 18.09.19

Gauguin wrote:
Unfortunately, the theory is wrong.
Proof?
Gauguin wrote:
Sorry of course, but this is a favorite phrase of those who to research is irrelevant. Even reading these.
Yeah, but here's the thing, all of these studies are confirmed in practice. You have the opportunity to write their thoughts on the Internet only thanks to the research. Isn't that a confirmation? Too easy and household? Here the theory of relativity podtverzhdaetsya in practice, the GPS satellites, which constantly have to adjust their clocks due to the fact that a moving clock goes slower fixed that, strangely enough, predicted by relativity theory. You're using the GPS in your phone? Gravitational lensing directly observed with telescopes. Gravitational waves from merging black holes are recorded by detectors. But these detectors were built, and to test the theory that these gravitational waves were predicted. The confirmation of scientific theories (maybe except the newest) and you can observe in practice in many household appliances, hardware and electronics. You just know these theories at least at a basic level.

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A.Soldier of Light 18.09.19

Wild Rider wrote:
If you explain it in simple coincidence, then the world becomes simple and intuitive and it certainly.
You can explain such things as the observation of the operation (surgeons or other physicians) on your body outside the body when the camera view almost to the ceiling of the room, and the body is in a coma. To explain, but nothing more. The explanation is not a proof and not the fact that it is true. But it is, and it's basically good. It would be stupid not to have any yasneniya ))
So if some views may explain (but not prove here the clever words not come out), it should be perceived as a potential justification and nothing more. Perhaps in one case it was a coincidence. Perhaps, in the other - not a coincidence, and something more, but as there are methods (like?) to prove such things, and the final answer is no. Theory - at best. As the theory of big Bang...

robespier26 wrote:
All created by humanity, created by scientific knowledge.
Some things created by the creators, have nothing to do with science 8) the Artist draws a picture, for example: she created not through his knowledge in the exact Sciences ) Tools and paint - Yes, the painting itself - no.
Gauguin wrote:
For example - the Bible describes the creation by God of the world, and in the textbook on Microbiology - what are microorganisms inhabit this world. Or if more figuratively in the Bible depicted the Tree of Truth, and in the textbook - small twigs, knots, etc.
Interesting interpretation. In fact it is: science (scientists) can't prove how the world was created, or rather, planet, star and universe itself. Can't, period. Unprovable by the scientific method due to objective circumstances. The same applies to the theory of evolution. The theory is, provable details, and theories are constructed but nothing more. The conclusions may seem logical, but kazhim is not proof.
If you like to talk about the proof of the theory of evolution, there are a lot of variations: what exactly should I prove? As one kind of animal turned into another? Or like a dinosaur with feathers became a bird? The second is more difficult to prove than the first ; About the person And if one time you can prove in a scientific way, the right way - in the laboratory experiments, it does not prove the truth of the whole theory of evolution, for it is too vast and full of millions of details. That is, if anyone here interested )

robespier26 wrote:
Proof?
From the theory of BV no proof, otherwise it would not a theory ^_^ BV could be, and could not be. There is only indirect evidence with uncertain anyone a chance to judge how the universe began. And that's all.
robespier26 wrote:
The very existence of God has not been proved, and there is not even any clues to lead work in this direction.
Yes, our scientific knowledge about the world is limited, and our methods of exploring the world. But they are improving, and I personally hope that someday the scientific method prove this. To deny it can not (logic: if you don't see it doesn't mean that it is not), and to prove - perhaps, if it exists, speaking from the position of Neutral. I think the essence of faith in God is to just believe. The idea is as follows. And believe can also be different! True faith, not all believers, it is enough to think about their thoughts and to realize whether you have faith really is... or you (well, not you personally, I'm talking about believers) believe for other reasons (tradition, herd mentality or otherwise). Because I see weaknesses as believers and atheists.
But to believe in people - at your own risk. I don't believe )) Well, in these extra events in the show. Bullshit. Thank you youtube for this -)

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Looon 18.09.19

Hmm, but hypnosis can be considered as something extraordinary? But it's there. And faith, people come up with. Not a God mind, but still a good cut each other to the glory of some idols, insignia and other symbols. There are no sorcerers and other grandmothers of fortune-tellers.

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ShaMaN 18.09.19

Looon
Can't insert five cents. I studied at the psychological faculty (and study now, but sometime I'll tell you later) and we had a teacher who believed in the power of hypnosis, conducted a test on my classmate thought that brought him to this state, but he (and the team) were laughing at this after a few because no hypnotic effect was not caused. In General, hypnosis does not enter if the person does not want to be entered. The same with faith. Therefore, my brief summary: no. No psychics, attendants fortune tellers, Holy water, the powers of the brain and other unscientific codswallop. Psychology is also under question, by the way. If you want to argue - put forward their angular arguments, if not fear, that the picture of the universe will be a breach. And the best - view series the mentalist, understand that the overmind is possible to simulate, try it yourself, casite, and live on (I went through it, and all what I want). All good, I'm drunk. Cover the topic.)

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Wild Rider 18.09.19

ColonelJason wrote:
Oh, if you were interested in science, you would know what a huge number of myths and nonsense was disproved in the history of mankind, but you, unfortunately, bezinteresno.
I found it interesting a few years ago. Something was funny, Yes. However, I do not put an equal sign between cargo cult/ spirits in your phone and the existence of the supernatural.
ColonelJason wrote:
You prefer to study areas that your mystical foundations will not shake.
I'm looking for explanation as to what was in my own experience. Ie, hehe, facts. And are followed by intuitive knowledge and faith at the end.
ColonelJason wrote:
Explain.
Already explained. Quite exhaustive.
ColonelJason wrote:
Something else: stupidity and absurdity of the myth that differs it even a hypothesis.
Heh. You are shamelessly overreacting, because there is wave-particle duality and the uncertainty principle which proves the influence of the observer on reality, even on a quantum level. Hypothetically, it can be assumed, the person can also influence their view on another person. Here, we not only have a hypothesis: with this myth face quite a lot of people every day, some of which are not devoid of self-reflection to understand that this is not a myth. Then, the myth does not contradict, but on the contrary consistent electromagnetic theory of consciousness, which in scientific circles is of little interest. I wrote about it before.
But you can continue to think in terms of academic dogma. I understand this issue will not already said it all.
ColonelJason wrote:
And I already explained to you that faith is about you, but personally, I just seems logical to explore the world through a methodology of thinking that has given mankind all that he is, than to believe in fairy tales that no one ever been proven.
Well, it's your ceiling to know something, amenable to similar methodology of thinking. But there is a category of people that this is not enough. They will study the phenomena and regularities to which science is not yet reached. They intuitively feel that there is an element of/a few of the elements, which is not enough for understanding and realizing the full picture of the world (although it is still incomplete) Only they don't call that magic/God. They're digging further. And I think that some esoteric people already dug up the fact that will be proved in 100 years at best. Is this bad? I don't think.
ColonelJason wrote:
Yes > you can consider anything. Where are the experiments that either prove?
ColonelJason wrote:
Let me also remind you that adaptor esoteric knowledge is not proved nothing.
You demand scientific evidence from the esoteric and of pseudoscience (such a label), which, according to the official point of view, cannot have by definition? You yourself are not funny? But the evidence is there, but for the same of pseudoscience or esoteric.
ColonelJason wrote:
So, if nothing but statistical error for some phenomenon does not explain why they would write something else?
May do more similar experiments, based on taking other hypotheses and theories.
ColonelJason wrote:
And you have, as I understand it, an interesting position:you seem to believe that statistical coincidences do not exist, right? That is, in the world there are two kinds of phenomena: opened and explained by scientists, and magic, and everything that looks accidental - magic, which is stupid scientists can't cope. It's called apophenia, my friend.
I also start using medical terminology, assessing your imagination and inferences based on them? I'm talking about the magic did not write anything. And it seems to be clear that I talk about experiments, I was interested in the dock of the existence of certain phenomena yet unknown to science.
ColonelJason wrote:
Here you have a sequence error: you impressed by the fact that several words in the article say, like, in favor of your position, and why you believed it was objective.
ERM... the Expert, the voice of the materialistic position, explaining this phenomenon, just described, albeit briefly, the result of an experiment that is inconsistent with the position. He lied, lied life? Why? And whether all experiments stored in the public domain, to assert unequivocally that this is bullshit?
ColonelJason wrote:
In this research article, nearly a third is the artistic Director of the theater-Studio Reflection. As you are not awkward things during scientific discourse to show I have no idea.
Probably just as embarrassed as you to call this scientific discourse. Strange that you drew attention to the opinion of the artist. of the head, but not on the opinions of commentators of the article. Me and all opinions are interesting because they are, for the most part, based on life experience.
ColonelJason wrote:
If for any coincidence to see proof that you're immortal
Let's not projections. This is not the main motivasi that led me to study spirituality. And let's be honest: even if scientists prove normal force of opinion, it does not become the Doc-tion of the afterlife of immortality.
But to insist that all the myths and nonsense are very short-sighted position.
ColonelJason wrote:
And the fact that some phenomena are coincidence, it is , pardon the pun - a coincidence.
It is in your scope of understanding
ColonelJason wrote:
Well, why are you lying, you yourself have shown, in my opinion, an article where scientists tested this phenomenon on a large number of people who claim that they can. And have proven that there is nothing they can not. Just ,apparently, due to the fact that this experiment is stealing from you immortality, you decided to forget partially.
And now accusing me of lying, nays (cheap trick). I have not forgotten anything. But the questions remain to this experiment: they looked at each other, or as observers were the experimenters? I have already described the factors that helps confirm this phenomenon. You can still add disable internal dialog, this can help to subconsciously react to this irritation. Plus the most natural environment, like a Park and not a closed room with a mirror.
And, Yes, immortality is nothing to do with.
ColonelJason wrote:
This is nonsense.
ColonelJason wrote:
Delusion - great.
I, unfortunately, see just, pardon me, farting in a puddle.
ColonelJason wrote:
This selective orientation of perception on a particular object?
ColonelJason wrote:
Philosophers are fatalists argue that all is predetermined, ie, in particular, predetermined and what man at some point
quite consciously, will focus the view on a particular subject.
And you do know what under consideration means not only the mental focus on external environment objects, but inner focus? Ie people exploring their thoughts, fantasies, etc. And once you have identified the particle is not, it means you wasted what they wanted to see in my thesis: that is not the cause of attention and who/what controls it, a mistake in the understanding of the term. To me such unreasonable chicanery don't like.
ColonelJason wrote:
Fatalism determines what events will happen, and not doing things for sentient beings.
You consider fatalism in a very narrow sense.
ColonelJason wrote:
And not much else I wonder why you turned out to be deterministic fatalism, and emotions-no. Although both, just the result of the nervous system, and if from a scientific point of view, the handling of these jawline strictly the opposite of what you have written, that from the perspective of the fatalism they should be equal, no?
I knew it note. This a good question.
I was referring to the will of the Supreme (and not) forces as the cause of the thoughts, desires and actions of man, however, he considers them his. Feelings - from the same place. But it is a response to the experience of the soul. The brain is the regulator bioelectrochemically machines (humans) that create emotions (which in turn is governed by the quality of awareness, mentioned above), and a conductor/receiver of non-physical consciousness, as the centre of subjective experience. And that consciousness is somehow linked to the physical body and brain through the system of subtle bodies/chakra system (not the soul). It's all megauploade.
And there are all individually, someone's body is not connected to such complex structures as Higher self, instead given a simple frame, which disintegrates after death. But it is the discharge of undetectable.

Despite the fact that the dialogue you have started in another topic, to finish really wish I do. The further dispute is not meaningful, it just goes in a circle. I wanted to explain - explained, even tried verify a prophetic dream. Everything else is stupid nitpicking.

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
You can explain such things as the observation of the operation (surgeons or other physicians) on your body outside the body when the camera view almost to the ceiling of the room, and the body is in a coma. To explain, but nothing more.
Do not claim to truth, but nevertheless:
If we imagine our world as a kind of incredibly complex structure, which is invisible, imperceptible by the human super-system, the management of its consciousness, perception of reality, even feelings, and finally life, it can be assumed that there is some kind of resource. If it is assumed that the resource is not limitless, then it becomes clear why the average person cropped the perception, otherwise the system is broke, she couldn't handle the load. Even now, there is no single conceptual basis for one esoteric understood the other with 1 word. And maybe one out of a million will perceive, process and remember information about a surveillance operation - the old from which it little understand, but which will excite his imagination for the rest of my life. While others do not even want to believe it. Not spelled out up there.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
I think the essence of faith in God is to just believe. The idea is as follows. And believe can also be different!
Yes, you could say the idea. It's all spelled out as an experience. The level of understanding. Some have it and others do not.

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ColonelJason 18.09.19

Wild Rider
Wild Rider wrote:
You demand scientific evidence from the esoteric and of pseudoscience (such a label), which, according to the official point of view, cannot have by definition? You yourself are not funny?
It is ridiculous of course.
Wild Rider wrote:
But the evidence is there, but for the same of pseudoscience or esoteric.
Your concept of proof changes from science to paranaque?
Wild Rider wrote:
And it seems to be clear that I talk about experiments, I was interested in the dock of the existence of certain phenomena yet unknown to science.
Oh, that's very clear. But the evidence that they don't exist, you are not interested absolutely - and it is clear to God they will not enter.


Wild Rider wrote:
The expert, the voice of the materialistic position, explaining this phenomenon, just described, albeit briefly, the result of an experiment that is inconsistent with the position.
Em. You can quote this place?
Wild Rider wrote:
But to insist that all the myths and nonsense are very short-sighted position.
Well, the last 10,000 years of civilized mankind it shows itself quite well - in fact all the esoteric speculation solely refuted and never proven.

Wild Rider wrote:
It is in your framework of understanding.
It is within the framework of common sense.
Wild Rider wrote:
I, unfortunately, see just, pardon me, farting in a puddle.
Yes, what you see is very selectively clear for a long time.
Wild Rider wrote:
And you do know what under consideration means not only the mental focus on external environment objects, but inner focus?
Yes, of course.
Wild Rider wrote:
To me such unreasonable chicanery don't like.
Quibbling is not unreasonable - you wrote that we have no control over their attention, and it is not, regardless of, we are considering something from the outside world, or reflexive.
Wild Rider wrote:
Me and all opinions are interesting because they are, for the most part, based on life experience.
That's why you believe in any nonsense: do not get anyone fancies something, and you read.
Wild Rider wrote:
The further dispute is not meaningful, it just goes in a circle.
Oh, yeah, let's wrap it up .I finally, I repeat my main thesis: the presence of a huge number of scientific discoveries, stunningly complex, important, unusual, unexpected, and useful to mankind, nothing from the realm of esoteric fantasy has never been confirmed, but was so denied.

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A.Soldier of Light 18.09.19

Looon wrote:
but hypnosis can be considered as something extraordinary?
You can, as usual, that is ordinary, it can't be 8) It's a rare thing, not everyone. Other hand, hypnosis has disadvantages, because the films show that - nonsense. For example, the hypnosis does not work equally on all people. Second, hypnosis to make someone dance like a monkey, without the desire of the subject to do it will not work. Movie - easily, in real life - you wish.
ШаMaN wrote:
In General, hypnosis does not enter if the person does not want to be entered. The same with faith.
True. Even if a person wants to be introduced to a different state with the help of hypnosis, still there is no guarantee, everyone has their own level of mind (give)...

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VerniteTrusy 18.09.19

I'm sure just the fact that there is my consciousness and the universe in one form or another (as a necessary condition for the existence of consciousness)
In all other respects not to be 100% sure.
Immediately Temko sit what supermen or psychics time sure about anything without having evidence or key information on this issue.

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saa0891 18.09.19

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D0%93%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%93%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8

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Wild Rider 18.09.19

Pseudoscientific Commission (the Commission to combat pseudoscience) just exists due to the current elite in order to remove from the sacred knowledge all mobile) as the argument is exposing real scams or even the nominees. If they are a real psychic, will strongly falsify the results, to interfere (because they know about how and what works for this person)
No matter how intelligent and well-read man was not, but even a tough businessman, he still falls into the trap of bowing to the authority of science. And from it you can go through positive personal experience. Not only that, but the easiest.

Here is a real example of foresight, a member of the VC group (none, is, alas, not me) quite accurately pointed out the localization of future earthquakes a month before the event. And even magnitude. Place completely unexpected, and it's...
*drumroll*
Spoiler

Ukraine. Left Bank of the Dnieper. Glubokovodnoi an earthquake of magnitude 5.7 occurred a few hours ago. It is so unprecedented that the European service hastened to remove the data about the event. For them many of these sins, by the way. But some services, like this captured on VRP. Destructions due to the deep focus, but shaking the residents feel.

1) post a forecast
2) fresh post
By the way, that dude is something else interesting predicts.

In General, over the past year seismic situation became more tense. There are more earthquakes worldwide with magnitude greater than 5 (especially in South America, Southeast Asia) appear strange swarms in the Eastern United States, more extensive in Alaska, the Western United States, throughout Europe, and often puffing volcanoes and erupt. And Google our Katav-Ivanovsk. It was just more confidence, that somewhere Yes will shoot big.
Yes, probably something has changed, but my prediction is the same, because of the global, I never dreamed of. The Canary island of La Palma, Tenerife, El Hierro. Especially on the second will be a lot of smoke.
I will add something. It seems like I recalled two Islands (identified and found them in form) in Vanuatu: Vanua Lava and Gaua. That's somewhere in the area, there is a major natural disaster. Probably the flooding of a strong earthquake, maybe a volcano will smoke out the inhabitants.

About prophetic dreams in General. Things I was not particularly surprised, well, there they all here, though burst. But I can safely say that those people who have experienced deja vu, in fact were prophetic dreams, but they don't remember them. But the subconscious gives them. I even will provide an intermediate option where remember barely vague images of people, events which later were embodied in reality, and later comes the memory of the dream and the picture.
But this adventurous creative girl is not shy, even to talk about them in public.

with 6:22.
In short, do not drive yourself into a stupid frame and do not unnecessarily fingering CDA-shnyh authority of any kind, yet I have all.
PS. Can you do this?) https://forums.playground.ru/talk/chempionat_mira2018_kto_stanet_chempionom-962204/#comment-17456258

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zdrastE 18.09.19

well so, clear the stump - is. there are Samushia people. yeah, St. Matrona of Moscow, for example.
http://shablona.net/alesya/strashnye-prorochestva-svyatoj-matrony-moskovskoj-o-rossii-kotorye-uzhe-sbyvayutsya.htm

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naomiann2016 18.09.19

of course there is, have you not heard of Gypsy fortunetellers which can cloud your judgment, so to speak, and you'll give everything that you have and not even know how it happened

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zdrastE 18.09.19

naomiann2016 wrote:
of course there is, have you heard about the Gypsy fortune-tellers...
https://coub.com/search?q=%D0%A6%D1%8B%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F%20

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Wild Rider 18.09.19

naomiann2016
Well, the rumors out of nowhere and do not undertake, and not only Gypsy can. My friend thus prihvatizirovat all the money from her purse. Himself gave, and in a public place without the homeboys, just ask, and explain why I couldn't.
Incidentally: https://vk.com/wall-26994574_46031

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dilat 18.09.19

naomiann2016
It's psychology, nothing more

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Zamkadysh 18.09.19

Fashion occultatio only breeds of frauds, they may have but one.

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A.Soldier of Light 18.09.19

Wild Rider wrote:
and to explain why I couldn't.
A weak mind, that's all the explanation. And there is nothing strange in this.
Wild Rider wrote:
Pseudoscientific Commission (the Commission to combat pseudoscience) just exists due to the current elite in order to remove from the sacred knowledge all mobile) as the argument is exposing real scams or even nominees.
Possible. But if in front of them will be people that can fly without instruments (to fly for real, no jokes), I'd love to see how they would try to explain that the gamesmanship ^_^ That's only if such there are, they perceive such a Commission as something... like a bunch of monkeys 8) They nafig not surrendered it to prove some crawling on the ground primitives anything )

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Wild Rider 18.09.19

A. Soldier of Light wrote:
A weak mind, that's all the explanation. And there is nothing strange in this.
The threat was not too much persuasion, as I understand it. A simple request and making eye contact, everything. Well, that means a weak mind, what kind of idiot would give ALL the money from her purse? Not 50, 100, and 700 rubles. And the victim of the robbery was in the 10th grade.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
But if in front of them will be people that can fly without instruments (to fly for real, no jokes), I'd love to see how they would try to explain that the gamesmanship ^_^
And this is the cheats that are great to spoil the many necessary perception of reality. And prophetic dreams it is corrected carefully and individually. Although the abundance of information on them must have something to say even repulsed skeptics.
PS
Spoiler
Wild Rider wrote:
In General, over the past year seismic situation became more tense. There are more earthquakes worldwide with magnitude greater than 5 (especially in South America, Southeast Asia) appear strange swarms in the Eastern United States, more extensive in Alaska, the Western United States, throughout Europe, and often puffing volcanoes and erupt. And Google our Katav-Ivanovsk. It was just more confidence, that somewhere Yes will shoot big.Yes, probably something has changed, but my prediction is the same, because of the global, I never dreamed of. The Canary island of La Palma, Tenerife, El Hierro. Especially on the second will be a lot of smoke.
I will add something. It seems like I recalled two Islands (identified and found them in form) in Vanuatu: Vanua Lava and Gaua. That's somewhere in the area, there is a major natural disaster. Probably the flooding of a strong earthquake, maybe a volcano will smoke out the inhabitants.
https://rg.ru/2019/06/21/vo-francii-proizoshlo-samoe-moshchnoe-s-1980-goda-zemletriasenie.html

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RikoChiko 18.09.19

No. And this was proved by the Great Houdini!

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Wild Rider 18.09.19

Well, you understand.
https://lenta.ru/news/2019/07/06/zeml/