Poverty
All around the impoverished. And I don't even a new monitor to buy. And you, too, a beggar?Masha wrote:
Why do you need money if you have the Crimean Bridge.
Jerk off, drink and not married? it is Worthwhile to blame!
Dude you sound like a joke.
And Yes it was initially stupid memes for shkololo not understanding what and how the country stands. And now it is all outdated and looks stupid. The bridge is LESS than the annual budget of the Moscow metro
Krucinski the quiet badass wrote:
will make the economy of Russia is fifth in the world...
Duc is not hard nifiga 1 step ostalsya
sundyray
sundyray wrote:
The bridge is LESS than the annual budget of the Moscow metro
Let me ask you, what is the budget of the Moscow metro? And could you support your claim with specific numbers?
Determinant wrote:
Let me ask you, what is the budget of the Moscow metro?
Well, I guess the budget of the Moscow metro, I don't know what is better to explain it :) I Can English, but probably get worse
sundyray
Perhaps you will correct me, but I think the Moscow metro is no budget, there is budget , for example, the city of Moscow, or the Federal budget, and subsidies on the subway, this item of expenditure from these budgets. Well, nevertheless, what numbers is your annual budget of the Moscow metro consists?
Determinant wrote:
could you support your claim with specific numbers?
Could. Here they are:
http://www.krym.aif.ru/money/stala_izvestna_itogovaya_stoimost_krymskogo_mosta
Thus, the total cost of construction of Crimean bridge will be 227,922 billion
That is about 3.7 billion green penticoff
https://stroi.mos.ru/articles/na-metro-nuzhno-6-mlrd-iz-federalnogo-budzheta is data for the year 2012
The capital budget, in turn, only for 2012 allocates $5 billion, and on the whole program until 2020 need $30 billion
5 more 3.7 kakby.
https://zugunder.com/index.php?topic=135231.0 - the metro 15-year when your grandmother bridge and have been allocated
actual expenditure amounted to 441 billion rubles. - equivalent to 7.35 billion penticoff
And somehow from Moscow not heard: Pissing Sabyanin! Pissing subway! But the metro, which I neither eggu!!! Lucchesi razdelitel
Memusic about expensive bridge-stupid, stupid, designed for dark, uneducated, stupid, unable to think of biomass.
Mamas was stupid at the time of his stuffing, and now finally become rotten.
sundyray
And what of the Crimean bridge, if there is the Moscow metro? Is it not enough for the rapid growth of spirituality in the country?
sundyray
Well, we figured out that the budget you call the cost of construction. But now the question arises: why do you think that the relevance of the cost of the bridge, with the construction of the Moscow metro, to somehow justify the first? It may be worth to consider different criteria? For example, it is interesting to consider what percentage pays for the Banquet is, in the end, result. You yourself have said that
sundyray wrote:
The capital budget, in turn, only for 2012 allocates $5 billion,
that is, you pay for your metro exclusively by Muscovites. The Moscow metro serves about 7 000 000 people a day. The official population of 12 500 000 people, it is 56%. Of course, not all of them will use the new stations, however, in General, repeat that money to build a paying community of people, of which more than half of the structure is used daily. Although those who are not motorists, will obviously suffer from the metro is small, but relieved. And how are we doing at the bridge? Per day it passes about 12,000 machines. Take roughly, that is 30 000 people. Paid for the bridge from the Federal budget, i.e. all 146 880 432 citizen of the Russian Federation. We get that all paid for daily use new design, only 0.02 % of people. A little less than half right? So, maybe the Moscow metro and the Crimean bridge is not so equal in importance to the infrastructure, so a simple comparison of the cost of their construction could be economically literate and justified? So Makar, after all, a lot to nesravnima. Why, then, does not compare 227 billion spent on the bridge, which is 0,02 % of the people on the day, with the spending budget of the Russian Federation on health care across the country for 2015, which amounted to 197,10 billion.
Further, the Moscow metro, according to RBC, brings in net revenue of almost 94 billion. Ie, its construction will pay for it through the years 13, and even earlier. And flow 100 billion revenue in the budget. And when its construction will pay for the Crimean bridge? And will pay for whether - because its service is probably not very cheap.
You may notice that the long Crimean bridge is 19 km. long And new branches of the metro will be 145 km. a strange way to compare the value of objects, one of which is almost 7.5 times more than the other.
And by the way, about 227 billion figure something modest, because to the bridge and approaches are necessary. Would say about 300-one billion.
https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2017/02/01/675698-zatrati-kerchenskogo-mosta
In conclusion, I personally am not a staunch opponent of the Crimean bridge - in my opinion, this is one of the smallest problems of our state, but close bridge the cost of the Moscow metro - it is absurd.
Wing42
Funny, your spirituality grows from building something? Here's Ksenia Sobchak, the house love built, your spirituality grows from this? Impingement so stupid and clumsy that it is even boring to answer.
sundyray
My spirituality is growing every sold to Africa a Kalashnikov and with each open in Siberia with a bottle of vodka.
Wing42 wrote:
why do they need the Crimean bridge
About this you can read in the technical feasibility of constructing technical documentation to the bridge.
Wing42 wrote:
spiritual growth
change the manuals, but this is outdated
Wing42
My spirituality is growing every sold to Africa a Kalashnikov and with each open in Siberia with a bottle of vodka - you can only posochustvovat
sundyray
Not true! Kalash and Vodka - spiritual ties. Denying their influence, spiritless outcast.
Determinant wrote:
construction costs
not only for construction but also maintenance and repair operating. You still can challenge applied the term?
Determinant wrote:
Spoilertv is, pay for their subway exclusively by Muscovites. The Moscow metro serves about 7 000 000 people a day. The official population of 12 500 000 people, it is 56%. Of course, not all of them will use the new stations, however, in General, repeat that money to build a paying community of people, of which more than half of the structure is used daily. Although those who are not motorists, will obviously suffer from the metro is small, but relieved. And how are we doing at the bridge? Per day it passes about 12,000 machines. Take roughly, that is 30 000 people. Paid for the bridge from the Federal budget, i.e. all 146 880 432 citizen of the Russian Federation. We get that all paid for daily use new design, only 0.02 % of people. A little less than half right? So, maybe the Moscow metro and the Crimean bridge is not so equal in importance to the infrastructure, so a simple comparison of the cost of their construction could be economically literate and justified? So Makar, after all, a lot to nesravnima. Why, then, does not compare 227 billion spent on the bridge, which is 0,02 % of the people on the day, with the spending budget of the Russian Federation on health care across the country for 2015, which amounted to 197,10 billion.
Further, the Moscow metro, according to RBC, brings in net revenue of almost 94 billion. Ie, its construction will pay for it through the years 13, and even earlier. And flow 100 billion revenue in the budget. And when its construction will pay for the Crimean bridge? And will pay for whether - because its service is probably not very cheap.
You may notice that the long Crimean bridge is 19 km. long And new branches of the metro will be 145 km. a strange way to compare the value of objects, one of which is almost 7.5 times more than the other.
And by the way, about 227 billion figure something modest, because to the bridge and approaches are necessary. Would say about 300-one billion.
www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2017/02/01/6..
Bravo! what a clear example of the manipulation of facts!
Well, here we go. Here you, let you live in a city with a population of... let 1million people. You live on the 9 floor of 9-storey building, which is let 6 apartments. Let every apartment is for 4 people (so, for example). You, like all other inhabitants of the city pay for capital repairs of housing. BUT! there is a problem! Your landing daily use only 6*4=24 man... out of 1000000. This is about 0,0024% of the population of your city. Thus, following your reasoning renovating your staircase can be considered very
Determinant wrote:
economically literate and justified?
Determinant wrote:
And when its construction will pay for the Crimean bridge?
Here you again trying to pull the owl on the globe, but it climbs and bursts.
Comparison of bridge and subway purely for bandwidth in men - is fundamentally incorrect. You see, the thing is, metro is designed to transport people, metro is, relatively, a huge bus that is designed to do one thing -- move people from points a to point B.
The bridge is not only transportation of people, it is the transshipment of cargo, goods, troops and military equipment in the end. The bridge is a universal acceleration and simplification of the logistics of the region. Now the trucker driver needs to pay 20 thousand rubles for the ferry. This is + $ 2 to price for example the Kuban milk on the counter in the Crimea. The bridge and the subway is really impossible to compare, the bridge is a strategic object of development of the region and the country as a whole, it is much more important than any metro station on the outskirts of Moscow.
As to the payback of the construction, then your reasoning is very primitive. To calculate the income, both direct(for example with the trucker), and indirect from simplify logistics with the region is so complicated that I won't even do that. It works for people with professional education in this area, and maybe a topic for a dissertation.
As for the comparison of value - that is just an example that cries about the fact that the country is impoverished by the construction of the bridge bit began to tire. 3.7 billion of wrappers, as we have seen in the budget is only one, though a big city, a very small amount to the country
sundyray
And how many of the billions of wrappers went on the bridge? How is it on a piece of paper - we all know on paper everything is always smooth. Contractors - they save love. There were a lot of precedents of similar savings ending tragically.
In General, local waste of time because the Crimean bridge comes from too big to attract the attention of ordinary people (the electorate) in the very fact of its construction. What a great event, what a miracle, a nuclear superpower, the bridge were able to build!
Wing42 wrote:
And how many of the billions of wrappers went on the bridge? How is it on a piece of paper - we all know on paper everything is always smooth. Contractors - they save love. There were a lot of precedents of similar savings ending tragically.
1. The bridge cannot be built
2. All the money razvorot
3. There is no bridge!!!! Wifefree!!!
4. Bridge razvalina
5. ...
You still have the original mixed 2-nd and 4-th stage GYY