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Mek Dermovyy 22.09.19 12:21 pm

When will there be cyberpunk?

When he comes, what generation it engraved, and come if he did. Let's powergem)
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Pirat13666 22.09.19

In 2060 and beyond.

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requiemmm 22.09.19

Already. The high-tech lolif in full, you can sit on a smart PG with a dilapidated barn in the middle of the Small village Drunks, where the roach coach comes once a week, and water only in the well, one on the village.

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MunchkiN 616 22.09.19

cyber point is the condition of some of the deep social and cultural depression in the face of rapid scientific and technological progress with every subsequent unemployment and crime, this option is unlikely to occur as such in itself. as there is the opposite trend progress in quality is slowed down that nm in General tou social and cultural changes in the next 300 years will catch up. that is our light Peck future probably not cyberpunk
cyber punk as a consequence of a certain moderate cataclysm in the glass, which hi the likeness of the above but with a deep economic reasons more than possible but how would tou adequate scientific and technical level and the percentage of urbanization yet but the trigger factors can make a world of war, climate change and energy, resource scarcity - such a scenario for the implementation of Nada 100-200 years. and with the same probability in this interval can occur fallout 4 with the probability of the subsequent agricultural ages and traditional society.
and will there be cereproc in itself a topic such as this is the basis of certain extrapolations of the present and certain phobias pitch artificial life and artificial intelligence when there any Pitch conference 80s Mackintosh stood on the table and myself spoke and Microsoft advertising came in and saved the day like in the times of epic steam punk with a self-propelled wheeled steamers and sneeze-puff a train caused a panic that is soon to be multiwheel steam gyrometer and aeronautic surfboard instead of a 5 storey ring of motorways.
and from the fact that in the future the cheesecake from the counter cheloveskom voice to options the reality will shout so I tried it everywhere is contextual cyberella flying for score, and the Tama cabergoline all sorts, sir I have hacked and I cyber prosthesis your hacked! and the bus without the driver's mate shouting to him the road was released... but if losing your phone then it will all be. people niche buy will not be able to get home and finally not be able to understand where he was, because nothing without navigation to know will not immediately become cyberball and a drone COP him with a stick to beat will be. and will the untouchables in which the digital divide here. and there looking for all sorts of pickets on the rights of robots and the second appeal - this just cyberpunk and will not come most likely so.

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A.Soldier of Light 22.09.19

Pirat13666 wrote:
In 2060 and beyond.
Oh well... judging by the GitS, since 2030го will ;]

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NO_LOVE 22.09.19

now it is

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Posledovatel Perelmana 22.09.19

requiemmm
the downshifting
IEC Crappy wrote:
When he comes,
already

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Ryazancev 22.09.19

If woulda something in your mouth used mushrooms grew.
Modern humanity to this social system will not survive because too serious contradictions in the current concept of world order.
Mankind is doomed to extinction (destruction). It is not necessary to be seven spans in a forehead, to understand the current process development.

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Emris_ua 22.09.19

Ryazancev wrote:
in order to understand the current process development.
And who exactly all these manages !!!

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Nameless 77 22.09.19

Ryazancev
Why is humanity doomed to extinction? Global warming is a myth and the lethality of nuclear weapons is exaggerated. Here will reach a level of interplanetary expansion, when the likely date of a meteorite with the earth will cease to threaten us with total annihilation, and just as parasites raspolzemsya throughout the body of the universe)

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xxKastielxx 22.09.19

Harari suggests that in the future people will no longer be considered as a labor and military force, respectively, they will lose their value in future politics and Economics. War will be waged by drones and robots controlled "smart" algorithm, a cyber attack on the infrastructure of the "enemy" will cause more harm than any army of the old model.

People will lose their economic value because the intellect is "separate" from consciousness. Until recently it was assumed that only conscious beings are able to perform highly intellectual tasks. However, the development of Cybernetics and computer technology suggests otherwise: the performance of complex tasks accurately requires high intelligence, and the presence of consciousness — not necessarily.

Harari on the diverse and witty examples, explains why over time a number of professions (drivers, transport managers, financial brokers, pharmacists, lawyers, teachers and doctors) would be unnecessary.

For example, the primary task of the physician to make a correct diagnosis and prescribe treatment. "Alive," the doctor is able to process a limited amount of information he gets tired and he has little time to communicate with the patient. Unlike the doctor, the artificial intelligence never gets tired, can work 24 hours a day and is able to quickly process the full information about the medical history of the patient and his genotype, medical history relative, to perform the world daily information about diseases and their treatment.

As a result the computer will quickly deliver accurate diagnosis and prescribe the optimal treatment. Moreover, such artificial intelligence, observing pressure, brain activity and other biometric data of his patient, will be able much better doctor, to feel the mood and condition of the patient and to talk with him just a tone and voice that best suits the emotional mood of the patient.

Harari suggests that humanity can be divided into biological castes. The elite caste will belong to the "supermen" with the unprecedented health, longevity, intelligence and creative abilities that will enable them to make all the important decisions in the world.

And will the lowest caste, consisting of the rest of humanity being subordinate to the algorithms and elites. Since "the masses" will lose its economic and political significance, that the elite can for example decide not to waste time and money on medical care for the poor and unwanted people, but rather to continue to engage in the improvement of the elites.

The elite will leave their liberal roots and will treat ordinary mortal no better than we treat animals.
In place of the liberalism will come a new religion which declares that the universe consists of a stream of data, and the value of any phenomenon or entity is determined by the contribution to data processing. Harari calls it "Dadaism" (dataism). Dataism the strongest associated with two disciplines — Cybernetics and biology.

Detaily believe that any organism, be it a giraffe, a tomato or human, is a tool of information processing. And now economists perceive the economy as a system of data processing. Politicians, too, are increasingly looking at democracy and dictatorship as competing mechanisms for the collection and analysis of information.

Harari believes that modern democratic structures are not able to quickly gather and process information, so they lose control of the situation and can't offer a meaningful picture of the future. The same thing happens with authoritarian regimes.

But the power vacuum, usually filled quickly. The question is, what structures will replace the familiar democratic or authoritarian political institutions and who will control them?

If we consider humanity as a single information processing system, the result of this system is even more efficient system called "Internet of all things." The basic precept of Dadaism — everything has to be connected with everything. The human body and cars on the street, and the hens in the hen house and the trees in the jungle — all have to be connected to the "Internet of all things."

Since the French revolution, Dadaism — first movement proclaimed true new value — freedom of information. Why Americans are healthier, wealthier and happier the Iranians or Nigerians? Because in America, more freedom of information, according to detaily. Free exchange of information may, for example, reduce harmful emissions through rationalization of transport system.

Why would a man own car, when usually it's used a few hours a day? It is much wiser to create a pool of "smart" machines, managed by an algorithm, which will be served at the accurate time and place and to take place.

In this case, a pool of 50 million cars to replace a billion private cars, respectively, reduced the need for roads, bridges, tunnels and Parking spaces. In this case, however, will have to abandon the right to private life and constantly to inform the algorithm about your location.

People like to be part of that flow of information because then the person feels belonging to something great. Dataism preaches that every word and action are part of a global flow of information, and the algorithms are watching you and care about you. What is the point to do things or gain new experience, if nobody knows about it?

If humanism is called to find the meaning of life inside us, dataism believe that our experience means nothing if not to share it with "friends" online. Placing comments, blogs and photos in the Internet, we enrich the global information processing system, and this is the main value of the person.

As well as humanism in its time, denounced the idea of God, stating that God is a figment of the imagination of man, dataism put an end to the idea of human values. The new philosophy will change the understanding of the being of the human: tell what imagination is nothing like a biochemical flow algorithms.

What happens to a man when dataism and "Internet of all things" will embrace the whole world? Harari believes that the role of the person is first reduced to chips, then to a bit of information, and in the end, we "fade away in the flow of information as a lump of earth into a raging river flow". In other words, people can disappear, as happened to him the other animals, unable to survive natural selection.

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Pirat_V_Zakone 22.09.19

Someday, I guess.

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Mek Dermovyy 22.09.19

Dogma
So watch dogs 1 and 2 cyberpunk chtol? There is that ctos is that in our world there is, and the rest of the world very similar to ours, with some differences. This is the third watch dogs are so, cyberpunk)

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Dogmit 22.09.19

IEC Shitty
so that speech was

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vftor 22.09.19

hostelhk
What you describe already exists. Only the elite caste is the highest of creatures, endowed with Reason, and the lowest caste are the people endowed with intelligence. And the lower castes cannot be replaced by artificial intelligence, like a computer, as a lower caste goes through fields and energy that are impossible for a computer artificial intelligence.

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Mek Dermovyy 22.09.19

Dogma
Ahh, soran, did not read

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Ryazancev 22.09.19

Spoiler

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RikoChiko 22.09.19

That's when miniature batteries of high capacity will appear and then start.

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antonrogov 22.09.19

In 2023 the e-passport is introduced, then come.
Well, the war of megacorporations are already. Huawei vs Apple there and all that.

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CpaHblN 4onNk 22.09.19

NEVER! CYBERPUNK WILL NEVER COME! So make no mistake - the battle of the formats at the end of the 20th century finally buried all the innovations, because it has destroyed real competition. I have to disappoint you, but you now use the technology that was developed 40 years ago, but the war of the formats and the victory of the American and their allies were postponed to the present day, because the winning corporations have had to sell their shit. For example, the smartphone was developed in fact as you all know, another Steve jobs in 1989, the year for this he was kicked out of Apple because the Board of Directors has already invested in the bricks and pagers. The first production tele with vertical 1050 was released in 1986 year, the HD with the 1024 vertical, we saw only in the zero, Full HD with 1080 vertical - five years later HD. The first disc of blue ray volume 54 of Giga was released in 1982 year, the second Quake came out in 1997 on a pack of floppy disks, because even the regular CD is 700 meters was too large for her!! I'm not talking about the BP - settings for BP sold massively on all Americans and then Western Europe, and unlike those of your muzzles kit included a full suit of sensors, which really conveyed the feeling of virtual reality and allowed to interact with objects with my own hands, not only showed a picture, so Yes, virtual sekas then there really was a circus, and not FAPA in manual mode on the virtual of the Persians sitting in the muzzle. So cyberpunk is not - downshifting Amer fucked everyone and everything with their VHS tapes, dial-up and non-scaled NTSC-format television signal and did not find better solution than to buy up and destroy more technically advanced competitors and their achievements are folded into the basement to the best to times, everyone is broken. Yes, and this is your raw footage they have, frankly, a turtle, even in comparison with ours, not to mention a NT South Korean, yeah. Moore's law has died - already nVidia obizatelno about it said. But the prospects of cyberpunk is based on it, even if Bruce Bethke invented this term in 1983 year on this and wonder. And it's not even the Nintendo and everyday technologies - it is all in the way of the future, draw us in knishka and movies. For example, the notorious Tesla your Ilona stupid sock accumulates on the body static charge from the friction of the air with the movement OF the AIR, CARL!!!! and then, if the statics are not reset spasatelnoe button inside can short circuit, even from passing pedestrians so that it cannot be extinguish by any means - just wait for it to the ground burn out. That is, the cars are dead even regardless of what in the world is not stupid capacity to generate this amount of electricity, which, besides, every day is discharged from the batteries of electric vehicles, and accidents involving them deadly for people with no options - that liquid that the gel electrolyte from a leaking battery corrodes the human body, unlike gasoline and a Solarium. Flying cars will end immediately as soon as the first drunk driving will fly in the house at the speed of at least 40 km\h, not to mention the hospital, kindergarten or school. Self-driving cars will end immediately as soon as hilarity-hatskery hacked one to make it into a weapon of attack. And you say, future, cyberpunk, smatrite... Live peacefully and not take their head - people will still always be better machines, because if all the neurons in the brain of ONE person to put in one line, it will exceed in length 1,000,000 (MULENOV) kilometers, and if you upload the same in one line ALL the wires and circuits ALL computers and smartphones in the world, in length it would be about 400,000 km, that is, slightly more than from the earth to the moon. Someone said about the alleged speed of the computer compared to a human, but does not account for stupid LAZY people to think so fast: about 4,000,000,000 calculations per second or a little more at a computer, compared to about 1,000,000,000,000,000 calculations per second the average person, even without higher education, and the standard tomogram shows that the number of neurons of the human brain exceeds the number of visible stars in the Universe more than three times. So Nintendo and electronic-positronic artificial brain for humans, even on photonic links is also downshifting, that is, the regression and degradation, and hence DULLNESS, yeah. And he should not forget who and how will these artificial brains then serve: will you pereproshit new update to zero, to pay or Penza not to pay, and would have to re-learn potty to go himself in the mirror to find out. Although the number debiloidov, thirsting for this life, also cannot be underestimated.

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Gauguin 22.09.19

The one cyberpunk we saifai portrayed in books and films - a disgusting and degenerate, hopefully soon.