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And again. I've been in the store suggested that it is possible on the Intel . coffe on the lake to collect. 8100 I3 percent. The price for the Assembly is about the same, maybe a little more expensive.
In tests to YouTube, the i3 is actually more powerful than the 8100 Reisen 1200, as I understand it. Who thinks that?
And the main question is whether the socket 1151 is relevant to the next generation? If I do upgrade CPU on this socket?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
will the socket 1151 is relevant to the next generation? If I do upgrade CPU on this socket?
will be able in the future to put ай5 or ай7 - depending on what money will suffice, but for compatibility with future socket a percent, I personally would not expect too much - the Intel lately with this obvious problem. By the way, what kind of mother under 8100 you suggest?

But I3 8100 is a good choice ? In tests , it is more powerful Ryzen 1200 in stock. in the dispersal 1200 to 3.9 in the test games they are the same. But I would honestly would not like tinkering with overclocking and stuff.
Nurse I don't remember)
But here is what I found on their website, budget nurse:
Gigabyte DS3H B360M
and all) this is the only budget that has 4 slots for RAM. The rest is more expensive, or the two slots for the RAM

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
But I3 8100 is a good choice ?
if it suits you for price and performance, Yes.
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
But I would honestly would not like tinkering with overclocking and stuff.
then Intel is definitely an option, but it is worth considering that even if you think about the acceleration of change, the Intel overclock nothing can (or have to buy charge at top chipset).
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
But here is what I found on their website, budget nurse:
Gigabyte DS3H B360M
Unlike boards, Riesen, budget nurse for the 8th generation percent from Intel came out relatively recently and their prices is somewhat overstated, for example, on the outlet price of this MicroATX Board you can take full-sized ATX-motherboard MSI PC Mate B350 for Reisen though, if you had to choose something only for the Intel, then
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
this is the only budget that has 4 slots for RAM

Len4ik00N
Well, I say that the acceleration makes no sense. Rayzen 3 the acceleration to 3.9 even inferior in some areas i3 8100.
I have another question.
What this budget nurse bad? Yes, MicroATX , but what is the difference, besides size?
And the main question is whether I'm on this dam in the future will upgrade to i7 ??? There that wrote that may not support turbo boost, is this true?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Overclocking ALWAYS makes sense, and very large. You compare processors, in the test, when grafiskuo component and reduce the resolution to not hit the video card. CPU test in the real world, for the user's complete nonsense. Personally, I used to ship graphics, with the remaining good processor.
I never stanu to collect a PC on a budget motherboard. What do you think, what are they save? Slots, capacitors, circuit power cut, it even radiators VRM cooling is not - which is very plosion. I would 100 razh thought before to put it on i7. It is limited in overclocking, CPU, RAM, software cut to impossible. It is better to add to it, to find, to give birth, grow on the money tree, but to add. Especially in the future 8700.
Of course, no one bothers. Note, the motherboard is the CENTER of all, it built the whole PC. Want to set and forget, do NOT SAVE. But I understand, money is tight, especially in Ukraine, the limit on orders from Europe (150 euros, if I remember correctly), other shops etc. Then I back down, there is nothing I do not know. Yet, in Russia, this is easier and stores more and limit to June - 1000€.
Two things which are categorically not worth saving, comes out sideways: the motherboard and PSU of course.
Processors, of course for socket 1151 v2. I.e. the entire line of COFFEE, 8 thousandth 8100 / 8400 / 8600 / 8700.
Here again, memory is weak, 2400 and frequency support with i7 / i5, to a maximum of 2666, specification. Motherboard - the BOTTOM.
Of course, this is my opinion. You can collect on any hardware. This motherboard supports i7 processors.
About the overclocking, I also said I wouldn't. Of course, times are changing.
The processor, in any case, he vremena bung. ALTHOUGH! It is important to understand that all 4-core / 4 x stream processors moved to the section office. For a modern build for a minimum of 6 cores. Of course, about the video card not forget. Ceiling 4-core CPU gtx 1060 (for modern games). You Have 1050? Then the more will come, 8100 + 1050 more than the norms of the Assembly. For the 1070 / 1080 already 6-core, well for the future of Hyper-threading.

Hellhound_Anger
Well, something specifically I don't understand what a bad budget mother to b360? The chain oklad, etc... what does that mean? Burn it? Or will not pull percents? or what? About the overclocking I got it. I have nothing against overclocking, but this must be busy and to learn to know how to drive. I do not have neither the time nor the inclination. So I'm asking. If in the future I will put percents i7 in there? What will happen? It will work 100% on stock frequencies? Or, the motherboard will slow down?

And tests different I looked. Where in the video card there is no emphasis where none 1050ti as I have, and so on.
And everywhere i3 8100 bypasses Riesen 1200. Except that the acceleration to 3.9, Reisen catches i3 8100.

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
...Burn it ?...
If in case normally orderly cooling (blower / blow molding coolers, turret on the CPU), will not burn - assuming that disperse do not plan to. For overclocking it is better to take the motherboard to a more high chipset, with good food.
...If in the future I will put percents i7 in there ? What will happen ?...
If the motherboard and CPU is not defective - will work.

The before was a bundle - Athlon II X4 640 + GTX 650. Gradually updated to current config (in profile) - no overclocking (on the old PSU) works without problems.

SonyK.
Question about the PSU. I'm not too keen to Sell my current build so we could take PSU out of there? Already found out that my BP will pull a new system, but another question. My BP 5-7 years probably. What kind of lifespan they have? And what happens when it fails? Himself die ? Or can bring someone?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
The specific lifespan depends on the quality of parts, load and operating conditions - may be you have electricity almost all the time stable, and maybe the constant power surges / frequency, this lifespan can also be reduced. What happens when fails, it is difficult to guess - to start to die gradually and there will be time to replace on new, and maybe just sit. Where may break himself only, and can steal the piece komplektuhi - as lucky.

Look, someone can tell how many real watt PSU you need for the system? just don't want to overpay for 700 - 800 cotton BP, which I don't need .
How much can eat system 8700 with i7 and GTX 1070 (I the future) ?
the calculators no more than 400 watts. Is it really so?

And another question. Does it make sense to overpay and take 1060 3gb instead 1050ti for i3 8100?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
system 8700 with i7 and GTX 1070
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik peak consumption this configuration, the double stress test nothing more ~ 280-290 watts for 12V line. In normal usage (including games) even less. + ~ 20 watts in total on other lines. Ie only ~ 300-310 at the peak.
Selection of a specific model of BP has been previously answered - http://forums.playground.ru/hardware/apgrejd_pk-959497/#comment-17257387

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
And another question. Does it make sense to overpay and take 1060 3gb instead 1050ti for i3 8100?
There are very substantial

Artie
Okay, not quite correctly asked the question)
No extra money particularly and a system which I'll take - I'll take at least a year without the upgrade. Enough of me 1050ti? Or 1060 3 GB will be much better ?
Just if 1060, then maybe I will look for BU in the market and there are mainly miners after all. Well, a new bit budget is not enough

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
how many real watts in the PSU, you need to system?...
How much can eat system 8700 with i7 and GTX 1070 (I the future) ?
really need a PSU with a sticker good 500 watt or 600 to soothe. given that BP should never be taken directly in the butt to the existing system

and take 1060 3gb instead 1050ti
then the theorem of askaban. I would take a new fresh 1050ти because it is more memory that is to put BH chopping off texture smoothing sacrificing some shadows some where putting supermen permissions peck-peck and so forth. and then Souvanna to change what the actual type 2070 some sort

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
...Enough of me 1050ti? Or 1060 3 GB will be much better ?...
Depends on what games and on what graphic settings to play together - in some modern (at maximum speed) and 4 GB VRAM is not always enough. At 1060 the performance of the above - if the quality of the textures etc. is not particularly important, it is better to take it. But we must not forget that the 1060 and the power consumption more. If you are not going to change the PSU to a newer, you need to be sure that your current pull.

SonyK.
Well I like be a new PC collect, and BP have not yet chosen)
How much 1060 hungry?
I don't know on what settings I could play at all. Of course you want the maximum. But I understand that 1050ti not. Everyone says that for high settings in full HD, it. Ultra is no longer drawn
MunchkiN 616
What all is affected by the video card memory?

And another question. I found the cheapest 1050ti Palit StormX. What makes it worse , if you take from other manufacturers? Yes, more coolers, a crackdown can be, and what else? Is it possible to save safely, and take 1050ti ?
And what do you think about the cards that have been mining 3 months? You can take, even if the warranty is 33 months? Or better new Palit?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
...How much 1060 hungry ?...
GTX 1050 Ti = 75 watts
GTX 1060 = 120 watts
...I want to maximum. But I understand that 1050ti not. Everyone says that for high settings in full HD, it. Ultra is no longer pulls...
I 960-I at 900p on the ultra is not always drawn, from 1050 Ti in the higher 1080p is even less chance - she's slightly weaker than mine.
...What all is affected by the video card memory ?...
First and foremost on the quality of the textures in the game - the more the VRAM, the higher you can set in the game settings. With them material objects in games look more clear and realistic. Other graphic settings too consume the memory, but to a lesser extent, if the graphics in games do (don't want to play at the minimum salary), will not be superfluous.
...I found the cheapest 1050ti Palit...
Depends on how you will use vidyuhi - the 1st and foremost about acceleration. Without it, I have a Palit-bcra 650 a few years without problems worked. Well, about the lottery should not be forgot - one years of work, the other may break in a few days.
...what do you think about the cards that have been mining 3 months ? You can take, even if the warranty is 33 months ?...
I would not even 3 months of such loads, the map may significantly deteriorate. If it breaks you have during garantiti, not the fact that the store will accept the exchange (miner and even more so, he sells to get rid of her). Especially gemorno maybe if the previous owner bought the store in your city, but ordered from somewhere through the Internet - time trial with the supplier and forwarding a video card to the shop can take a lot, and not the fact that there is a positive result (peresylke can deliver her in one piece, or do lose).

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Dude fuck 1050ti it in full hd just the old game on high pulls. (A couple of years with minimal salary will be hard to resist)
(And if you do decide to take it, that there is a 300-watt unit will suffice).
And R3-I3 both will not pull games on high settings and getting heavy and medium do not pull.
At least that's the build (At least 8 GB of memory can take), and this BP is worth taking only if you buy the 780 ti on the cheap, or r9 2XX-HD79XX.
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And that someone thinks about vidyuhi 1060 3gb inno3d compact, with a single cooler?