Second Korean war?
IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED:1)to Discuss the internal politics of States and compare the quality of life in different countries. Moderator might consider this offtopic. (the topic of the Korean war)
2)Express your wishes for elimination of a leader of state-VA/state-VA/of the people. The moderator may consider this a provocation.
FORBIDDEN:
1)a Malicious offtopic (including a discussion of the modern Syrian and Ukrainian conflict)
2)Any provocation, trolling, flame, oskorbleniya, go to the person and others is Punished with ban.
To discuss best
1)the Probability of war. The cause of the war, who benefit from it. Consequences.
2)news on this topic.
3)Methods of warfare. Specialists in the military sphere, in the field of armaments (if such there are, yeah) are welcome. It is recommended to give links to various online resources, some stemen some examples of past wars as the argument.
from 16.04.2017 14:30
Media: DPRK for the first time Hackers attacked military of South Korea
Prior to this, Pyongyang has repeatedly accused of breaking into databases of banks and media in South Korea, the military became the object of attack from the North first noted by the press in Seoul.
The hackers were able to steal from the city center, created to counter the cyber threat, a kind of classified information, reports BBC News.
http://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2016/12/06/1573253.html
North Korea was suspected of producing a small nuclear warhead
http://tvoygorodpskov.ru/2016/12/371156-kndr-podozrevali-v-proizvodstve-malenkogo-yadernogo.html
In Primorye has stopped the export to the DPRK of threads for bullet-proof vests
https://rg.ru/2016/12/07/reg-dfo/v-kndr-iz-primoria-hoteli-vyvezti-niti-dlia-proizvodstva-bronezhiletov. html (link broken, the whole Pagac does not pass through Google strikes)
The UN security Council imposed new sanctions against the DPRK
The purpose of restrictive measures was announced reduction of the income of Pyongyang from exporting natural resources. In particular, 60 per cent reduced the purchase of coal in North Korea (the total income of DPRK from its sale should not exceed $ 400 million annually), and the purchase of statues, as well as copper, Nickel, silver and zinc. The decision was taken unanimously.
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/30/hey_kim/
The South Korean Parliament impeached the country's President
The reason for the impeachment was the largest corruption scandal, Park Geun-Hye and her longtime friend Choi sung-SIL. It is alleged that the woman used his connections for personal gain, and even interfered in the Affairs of state with the connivance of the President and its administration.
https://ria.ru/world/20161209/1483190596.html
I think that the Korean powder keg will explode (maybe next year), Kim Jong Yne such issues not to solve by diplomatic means. Now, here it is - a romp and prepare for war amid the political crisis in South Korea. Your opinion?
long overdue for a hit on this misunderstanding, which has no place in the 21st century
while on the other hand, why the people of North Korea have to suffer because of the sanctions, only for the fact that they have a different ideology in politics, won the Chinese Communists, too, but nobody infringes.
Wild Rider wrote:
Afraid, afraid, Soldier. And on CNN, and in our media translate these threats.
In our Estonian and European media and in the minds of politicians, at least publicly, is also fear. Fear of Russia that she allegedly threatens all %) the same goes for North Korea. How justified this fear - that's what I tell better. If you know it ))
Wild Rider wrote:
imagine that the North Koreans somewhere nakosyachat, and test missile accidentally reach conditional Tokyo or Seoul.
Presented. And, you can imagine that the launch of American missiles or some other also fails. Or the satellite orbit will fall. Or the launch of a Russian rocket will take place with shoals, it is already. What exactly are you afraid? Probability? It is likely that tomorrow trump suddenly realizes that human rights really are being violated in Saudi Arabia, and the war begins... already there is the Likelihood these are not important, I'm talking about. When the fears are exaggerated and unjustified, and probability stocks are not justification, there is a stir in the media. Russia North Korea and its launches are not afraid. Would be better if the Americans stopped bombing Assad's troops and are focusing on normal goals for his deducted from the account of excess of tomohawk...
warp 37 wrote:
This state as the DPRK, it is time to erase from the face of the earth in the form in which it exists now.
Because they don't like Western and Japanese konsolki, isn't it? 8) they only pitch in high esteem, and restrictions.
And who are you to decide how to live? Isn't it better to enable the people of the DPRK to solve? However, there is a long-solved and I see no objective reasons for the destruction of the DPRK. What... the... nonsense...
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
How justified this fear - that's what I tell better.
Well, in my opinion, Russia should fear that she will become another North Korea, because how would the politicians abused the totalitarian Soviet Union, in the direction of the DPRK regime they look with suspicious sympathy.
And the US always react aggressively to those who can in case of conflict, they oppose something.
A. Soldier of Light
Wing42
warp 37
Follower Perelman
I propose here not to discuss internal politics of the state (and especially Syria and Saudi Arabia). Expressed that a single life is bad, the other not so bad - okay.
The theme of the Korean war. Who benefits from war who can start which means she will continue to write, it will not be offtopic.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
Or the launch of a Russian rocket will take place with shoals, it is already.
During Soviet times, was about the rocket launch, which could lead to WWIII. But the important objects of the warring countries, large cities were (and still are, heh) away from each other, but the DPRK with the ROK and Japan are close neighbors, and the situation there is tense very much. Likely to bring down air defense of the Korean missile is not that big.
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
When the fears are exaggerated and not justified
Well, Yes, when one country threatens to destroy another, the fears are unfounded.
And I never did not take seriously North Korea, I think that this country is not the level and scale that would be something serious to represent for global security. I think that even Russia has enough forces to cope with it without assistance, not to mention the military power of the USA.
In General showdown North and South Korea is more like a funny show, or habitation of two different people in the same room.
Podvipodvertov
think about Vietnam, where the Americans took strong kicked, but not without the help of SSR, but the main contribution was made by the Vietnamese themselves ,and the DPRK will be there, and there's your ally, the more that they are major strategic targets hidden deep underground since the war 53 Guo, so without a ground operation, the us is not enough, and here the Hz for who will win, if only America did not disdain to use nuclear weapons in Nagasaki and herosime ...also this is possible, if quick victory did not anticipate
Wing42, it is unlikely that Russia is completely isolated, in any sense.First, we already have atomic weapons. Secondly a bunch of tasty resources. But the provocation from the inside you can expect. IMHO this explains the tightening of the legislative screws in our legislation.
Podvipodvertov, this fight could end in an outbreak of hand in relation to the use of the most powerful bombs in the history of mankind, TNT. This is cause for concern.
another option that the United States will be at war by proxy with the help of allies South Korea and Japan, and they themselves will be bombed by missiles and aircraft, it is precisely here that the Pentagon may try to combat their new F - 35 ,which spent hundreds of billions of dollars,
I would place Picena threw a couple of s - 400 northerners as if by chance )
warp 37
What's stopping North Korea ? Live in isolation from the world, not bothering anyone.
Illumiar, no touching is the constant border conflicts with Kazakhstan and the threat of nuclear weapons the civilized world? Of course, it often comes down to banal extortion of humanitarian assistance, but such actions will not benefit anyone.
Here is a third world country, like Zimbabwe and Uganda, not bothering anyone really - they are even is rarely remembered.
A. Soldier of Light
A. Soldier of Light wrote:
In our Estonian and European media and in the minds of politicians, at least publicly, is also fear. Fear of Russia that she allegedly threatens all %) the same goes for North Korea.
I don't know what have you written in the Estonian media. The fact is that unlike us, the Korean people are very much brainwashed anti-American rhetoric, the head of state-VA, must continue the line of the party. Maybe now the words of Kim threatens nuclear weapons (and these words translate the Western journalists, not by deceiving, otherwise our diplomats would have noticed the discrepancy), but what will happen when Kim will have tens of Taepodong missiles with warheads?
So, I would not like it if my housemate is constantly threatened me, even in words.
And, Yes, between SK and RK are constantly taking place shelling.
I read somewhere that the citizens of North Korea until brainwashed by their government that most, not all of course, but most sincerely believe that they were lucky to be born and to live in their country. There they consider that outside their countries endless war, almost all the land scorched by nuclear explosions, everywhere the savages that eat each other, and their country is an oasis in the midst of this terrible world and the last Bastion of civilization.
And that these people can't be reprogrammed back, they are lost in lies and as such will always remain. Even if you overthrow the government, that too many potters have with ordinary citizens to get out of your head, and no one wants to do.
Podvipodvertov wrote:
I think that outside of their country of endless war, almost all the land scorched by nuclear explosions, everywhere the savages who devour each other
they are partly right, if you look at their Northern neighbor and what happened there in the 90s and I don't mean China
Well.
The US plans to send three aircraft carrier to South Korean shores
https://ria.ru/world/20170417/1492366135.html
All are preparing for war.
Follower Perelman
Bet)
Solartalk just. Immediately warn you: anything in particular you prefer to argue with those people I know well well as an exception with someone from the moderator team or very active users. Such issues should be solved in PM.
Ryazancev wrote:
It is not profitable now, not the US or the UN. Most likely there will be no war.
USA it is not profitable?? They lizhby where it was hot and fresh hot buns they will find. According to the policy USA, it is advantageous weakening of the influence of other countries, and military action their is already a scenario, as in Iraq, Ukraine, Syria and other countries and now in Korea, IMHO.
Russia sent troops to the border with North Korea
Спойлерhttp://korrespondent.net/world/3842161-smy-rossyia-otpravyla-voiska-na-hranytsu-s-kndr
Follower Perelman wrote:
Russia sent troops to the border with North Korea
Forever with all sorts of devils border. Not that Australia.
Russia tightens military equipment to the border with North Korea
Спойлерhttp://korrespondent.net/world/russia/3842289-rossyia-stiahyvaet-voennuui-tekhnyku-k-hranytse-s-kndr
Wing42
this was the quietest part of the border