The execution of the Royal family.
What do you think, justified in this shooting? or not?I do not understand why it was necessary to shoot the family if Nicholas has refused the throne?
the people demanded blood.Revolyutsiya on the nose or whatever on the history...
King and his wife(and maybe it would let XS,no it's that bastard was..but what about the kids without her?) I would have killed.Children would be left alive.(but most of prisec the possibility of revolution)
What was written Leva Fat? that happiness of mankind is not worth the tears of the child.
And then the shooting of children.
Yes, hit his head on a sharp corner, may be remember how Hitler loved the phrase - the end justifies the means.
and how it responded to smart people - the means used to change the target. And so it happened - was aimed at the happiness of people as a result of violence received the mountain peoples.
The wife, incidentally, was also a rare thing, but this German (or Danish..) is hardly to blame less than nikolashka.
The son would've died without a Royal infusion treatment. Daughters were, of course, and send. May be sent, if not for the white troops.
I do not understand why it was necessary to shoot the family if Nicholas has refused the throne?
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What was written Leva Fat? that happiness of mankind is not worth the tears of the child.
1)You're with your dad, if you have it, so't get informal - Lev Fat.
2)this Phrase said Dostoevsky. In General, as Drobotenko in his idiotic monologue went: the great Russian writer Lev Nikolaevich Dostoevsky.
can be remember how Hitler loved the phrase - the end justifies the means
The phrase all politicians love.
And so it happened - was aimed at the happiness of people as a result of violence received the mountain peoples.
Received?
Type, it was not before this?
that happiness of mankind is not worth the tears of the child
Clear.
Your liberal values are shit.
So a lot of people of them were killed, Pol Pot just a child compared to you.
Of course, this was a crime.
Such may have been justified... but only for the Communist government; from the point of view of law and morality such can not be justified in no way.
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many regimes would have done exactly the same bolshiviki here are not innovators. and life Yes, it do not care! there is a purpose, there is a desire to protect themselves now, then yeah centi (went for mushrooms on the North pole and never came back)..
perhaps, you may have to cover their tracks and no one vozbuhnut with questions. their mouths shut with a hot iron, and zabugor't care who listens to them! time will pass, all will hide..
normal kind of perverted morality.
Yes, that do. Shot - so it was for that. Everything (almost) was fine - then it's all okeyno was
Hameln-the pied Piper
I'm not an anti-Semite,but you know what I mean?
And then Ostap suffered...-12 chairs
here is the inscription on the wall in the Ipatiev house
We've recently businessman get taken so near the scene of me on the wall was seen the inscription yuh. Does this mean that he was killed by the representatives of sexual minorities?
On topic: the Whole event was a flagrant idiocy. In place of the CC I would be first on the first shot of those who thought of it. Was gr.Novels - king loser bonfire, the vast majority of the population on each occasion. Was his wife, koiya got the people no less than Paradise Gorbachev. They've done business-not little thanks to his idiotic domestic and foreign policy. Both should have been in the capital and under the court open to the public, that would be all the rottenness of the regime came out as one boil. Don't know should the spouse, but the king shot obviously would not be amiss. And brand the entire system to hell. Children to settle under heavy guard somewhere in the suburbs - the benefits complete. All the revenge-seekers climbed to them by any means, and the KGB followed them only to hunt down and catch. Easy, profitable, convenient. What happened because of the Ural idiots and alarmists? The kings were martyrs, and symbols. For some reason hurt innocent children and servants. Any opposition had good reason to speak of horrors of the Bolshevik. Part wavering over to white. The tsarist regime was not convicted purely legal. Now compare this to Nuremberg. Therefore, I say: Most terrible - it is a cowardly action fool.
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I hinted that the king murdered in the pale of settlement,the material on this enough to prove or disprove difficult,security officers and Kolchak in the grave long ago.
Yes, normal mode was no less rotten than the Soviet Union at the end. Only here there it is more of 73. The best part of all of the nonsense about the monarchy - bolshevistkaya propaganda. The same oppressed peasants and workers. The action was not useless. The Emperor is anointed by God. If Kolchak somehow miraculously managed to release him (say, with subversive groups), then it would be him, the people stood up - still had a very great devotion to the throne at the time. It would have radically changed the situation. The king, he was shy and too soft - Peter First of all would be hanged all at once. But there were worse. The monarchy was generally quite good in relation to all of the undead, the same as the Decembrists. The execution of the Royal family - a crime that is justifiable in the human sense. Almost Yes, the White Army was close, it was impossible to prevent the liberation of the Emperor. But not all would do the same.
Dancing on the bones.
Ankh 8, as is always balanced, but I don't think this is the reason when you can be balanced. The girls finished off with bayonets.
. If Kolchak somehow miraculously managed to release him (say, with subversive groups), then it would be him, the people stood up - still had a very great devotion to the throne at the time.
may I ask what kind of people?
The monarchy was generally quite good in relation to all of the undead, the same as the Decembrists.
and the you Decemberists wicked?
The Emperor is anointed by God.
this, in particular, by Lena massacre, bloody Sunday and the ice Palace. What may be another confirmation of God's chosen people of the king?
The best part of all of the nonsense about the monarchy - bolshevistkaya propaganda.
for example?
as far as I remember, Nicholas ll ordered his soldiers to shoot people demonstrate peacefully - Bloody Sunday.
If Kolchak somehow miraculously managed to release him (say, with subversive groups), then it would be him, the people stood up - still had a very great devotion to the throne at the time. - Russian. And what else?
and what you Decembrists wicked?
. - I personally - nothing. Just it is widely believed that if hung not 5, but 500 of the Decembrists that no revolution would be. Afraid to.
this, in particular, by Lena massacre, bloody Sunday and the ice Palace. What may be another confirmation of God's chosen people of the king? Actually, the king is officially considered to be the anointed of God. And so in the minds of many remained. What you listed is nothing compared to the repression. Again, the tsarist government was too soft.
like? - vile bourgeoisie of the oppressed peasants and workers, for example.
Russian. And what else?
who is it? What segments of the population?
Just it is widely believed that if hung not 5, but 500 of the Decembrists that no revolution would be. Afraid to.
well, afraid was looking on bloody Sunday. If the powers that be raised a hand for a peaceful demonstration,it is expected to do anything.
What you listed is nothing compared to the repression.
repression was in the thirtieth year, when one part of the Bolshevik party eliminated another (in fact one that has been at the forefront of the movement), usurped power completely has announced the party driving force of development of society (although from the point of view of historical materialism, shared initially by the Bolsheviks, is complete nonsense). Look who came to power in October, who left after the repression? The vast majority of ideological Communists, the vanguard of the party, were executed. So the repression, that's another topic.
Actually, the king is officially considered to be the anointed of God.
well, yeah, but so what?
vile bourgeoisie of the oppressed peasants and workers, for example.
that is, you believe that at that time there was no gap in the difference of classes between the bourgeoisie and the proletarians? But why did the proletarians and the peasants went over to the Bolsheviks? By the way, here in connection with this interesting statement Witte at the Ministerial meeting 17 March 1899, chaired by Nicholas II and discussed the question of the Foundation of the current Russian trade-industrial policy, said: "If we compare the consumption we have in Europe, the average size of its per capita amount in Russia for the fourth or fifth part of what other countries recognize the need for a normal existence". http://scepsis.ru/library/id_2163.html
Again, the tsarist government was too soft.
and who in the first world, gotten us into? Who fired on demonstrators in 1905? And who work in the 12th?
who is it? What segments of the population? - those who believed the Emperor's anointed. That is, from different layers
well, afraid was looking on bloody Sunday. If the powers that be raised a hand for a peaceful demonstration,it is expected to do anything. - “Held in Petrograd on January 5, 1918, a peaceful demonstration in support of the Constituent Assembly was shot by the red guard. The shooting happened on the corner of Nevsky and Liteiny prospect and Kirochnaya street area. Were scattered the largest column number up to 60 thousand people, but the other columns of demonstrators reached the Tauride Palace and was dispersed only after the approach of more troops. The crackdown was led by a special headquarters headed by V. I. Lenin, Y. M. Sverdlov, N. And. Podvoisky, M. S. Uritsky, V. D. Bonch-Bruevich. According to various estimates, the death toll ranged from 7 to 100 people. the Demonstrators consisted mainly of intellectuals, civil servants and University students. At the same time, the demonstration was attended by a significant number of workers. The demonstration was accompanied by SR terrorists, which is serious resistance to the red guards. According to the testimony of the former SR V. K. Zerola, “all the demonstrators, including the PC, were without weapons, and the PC was even available in areas that nobody took a gun”.
the repression was in the thirtieth year, when one part of the Bolshevik party eliminated another (in fact one that has been at the forefront of the movement), usurped power completely has announced the party driving force of development of society (although from the point of view of historical materialism, shared initially by the Bolsheviks, is complete nonsense). Look who came to power in October, who left after the repression? The vast majority of ideological Communists, the vanguard of the party, were executed. So the repression, that's another topic. Well, well. Priests one and all were Communists. And my great-great-grandmother, which in a barrel with water was hiding - no doubt a Communist.
well, Yes, but so what? - He was almost a Saint, the good king-father in the representation of even very many people. During the Civil war the people did not go after anybody. The Emperor would have gone.
that is, you believe that at that time there was no gap in the difference of classes between the bourgeois and proletarians - Yes, everything at that time was normal. Those who wanted to work, worked and lived normally .Those who do not want to work - was screaming about oppression. The uprising Antonov in Tambov, which the Bolsheviks were gassed. Izhevsk and Votkinsk division, later became the main force of the army of Kolchak. These are the most oppressed workers went to fight with those who wanted them release, for those who shot at him 12. Went with empty rifles that were produced in their own factories, went to the psychic attack. The attack shown in Chapaev were not the kappelevtsy, and Votkinsk.
who in the first world we got? PPC. Immediately lost the desire to communicate, it is seen that most of the information a person takes from Soviet books. Have you tried to get information from different sources? The first world was under a very certain reasons. Read the book of Anton Ivanovich Denikin the Path of a Russian officer, everything is pretty well described. You know, now you speak He take his knowledge from books Belyakov traitors... I take information from various sources, including from the Soviet, compare. Version Denikin seems to me more plausible, that's all.
/those who believed the Emperor's anointed. That is, of the different layers/
What is the meaning of the poor to fight for the power that suited the landowners and capitalists?
/Held in Petrograd on January 5, 1918, a peaceful demonstration in support of the Constituent Assembly was shot by the red guards./
Source.
By the way, here's the testimony of one "Soviet historian," General William Grevs: In Eastern Siberia committed horrible murders, but they are not committed by the Bolsheviks, as is commonly thought. I will not be mistaken if I say that in Eastern Siberia for every person killed by the Bolsheviks, had 100 people killed by anti-Bolshevik elements. Grevs W. American adventure in Siberia (1918-1920). M., 1932, p. 80.
/Well, well. Priests one and all were Communists./
Among the priests were sympathetic, or even participating in the organization "Black hundred". In their address was the same statement about the reactionary clergy. And what about the Communists, so judge for yourself: Rykov, Kamenev, Bukharin, Pyatakov, Zinoviev, etc. No, definitely Stalin was an anti-Communist than a Communist.
/And my great-grandmother that is in a barrel with water was hiding - no doubt a Communist./
My folks also got (however, this does not mean that I immediately need to throw on the side ympertsev, because Bolshevism was not ice). But it was in the thirties.
He was almost a Saint, the good king-father in the submission by way of so many people./
Nicholas The Bloody?! Well, even assuming this, how much of what is happening in the minds of those who imagined him an angel, were true?
/A Civil war the people did not go after anybody./
How so? If people did not go into civil war for no one, then how possible would this the civil war?
/Yes, everything at that time was normal. Those who wanted to work, worked and lived normally .Those who do not want to work - was screaming about oppression./
Where such categoris? Although, I think that the phrase "those who wanted to work," you mean those who didn't care about cashing in at the expense of their labor, or not, or you mean someone else? By the way, about this very "normal," I recommend the book of A. I. shynharyeva Dying village
/Just lose the desire to communicate, it is seen that most of the information a person takes from Soviet books./
Eptyt! The fact that Russia is beginning on 30 July a General mobilization, it's a universally recognized fact. And Soviet historians is not being.
/First world was under a very specific reasons./
Of course. And, above all, geopolitical. However, when the Royal power over management decisions at the state level, this is a responsible monarch. Therefore, to present to him that was taken that is the continuation of foreign policy is quite fair.