The execution of the Royal family.
What do you think, justified in this shooting? or not?what has been the generosity?
no one his enemy was not satisfied, double-resort area
In December 1895 Lenin was arrested and after a year and two months exiled in Shushenskoye Yenisei province for 3 years. And this is not the link where you work in the mines, and lived a full life, to marry Krupskaya had time to philosophize about take everything and divide. Who of the enemy will allow this? Only a noble ruler, albeit a bad governing.
The defeat of the revolution of 1905 - 1907, Ilyich, read again allowed to pull in Finland, and in the autumn of 1907 to re-emigrate. And in early January 1908 to rest on its laurels in Geneva. What kind of enemy will leave again ungrateful, after the recent links? Happy. Very happy. King.
And then, if you put on one scale is the generosity, and, for example, rasputinism, it will not fly up as if a feather is the nobility, under the action of its counterweight?
or, for example, from the article I posted above:
Nicholas II was not infallible in relation to women. One example of this was the "Otsu incident". During his stay in Japan, the heir and his entourage spent the night in the places where they used to come to spend time with sailors calling in the ports of Japan ships - wrote in the time of Japanese Newspapers. The Prince and his entourage drank a lot. According to the Ambassador of Japan in St. Petersburg Nissi, the heir visited 29 APR 1891 in Otsu iconic institution with bayadères had protection. The conduct of Nicholas has led the Japanese to resort to the sword. So we can not say about the "assassination" of Nicholas from some supposedly exalted fanatic nationalist. And it is this version persistently spread to the Royal court, and even still is in use. "The wound was accompanied with external parties are not particularly art actions, i.e. those which could not captivate the audience sympathies in one direction or another", - said diplomatically Witte, citing interviews with witnesses
indeed, the evidence of genuine nobility.
And if you take into account the policy and some of the above incidents (as the Khodynka and the Lena shootings, for example), then generally described by your example of generosity (it is, if it really was a matter of the heart and not just zamanuha) generally becomes nothing. Isn't it?
Chukchi Militant
Just disgusting, when there are the most chatters:Watering them all we had!
Well, it's not thinking about any political or moral. This example is the best proof of how marginal burst through to power even in a separate place can pervert the whole idea. This case it is necessary to disassemble at the Academy of management that would once and for all remembered that little is to appoint to the post of the person sharing your ideas, you have to check as he understands them, and that his mind is going on. But then so are Evsyukova to run.
Hameln-the pied Piper
are you about Chechnya?
I'm talking about Iraq. I only write about proved.
I think the people involved in this will answer on all severity, and the crust will not save them.
But I somehow doubt very much. After all, the stink pratsyuyut. In the minutes of testimony is not recorded, the Minister of police allies, so will pull on the brakes. And here's a guide to sit - they're not allies Lutsenko. Speaking of the Minister - and in his case someone really was investigating something? Here you have an example. So at the very least, always leave to rest abroad.
Need To Hide
For starters, the last king was Peter I or Peter II, can't remember exactly
Peter, what immediately and the king and the Emperor, as to be crowned king and then declared himself Emperor.
I noticed that the politicians that I didn't always live to a ripe old age or killed themselves, but sympathetic, has always been someone killed
I hope that if I do politics, then you really don't like it...
Only a noble ruler, albeit a bad governing.
Did it ever occur to you that if he was so noble and smart, you should understand that the head of it, as I am a pharmacist and had to leave the scene calmly and quietly, as the same Constantine at the time, saying :No, Lord, not my business, look for someone more capable..., ?
Did it ever occur to you that if he was so noble and smart, you should understand that the head of it, as I am a pharmacist and had to leave the scene calmly and quietly, as the same Constantine at the time, saying :No, Lord, not my business, look for someone more capable...
It is a justification of revolution, and the darkness of corpses? No, I hope. A bad leader doesn't mean a bad public servant who deserves the court of the parasites, sorry for such naivety.
I hope that if I do politics, then you really don't like it...
Who knows, I mean, how do we know what conditions you fate will give in power? Uhm, but even the best from your point of view, the government will not save the situation today, a privatized homeland. In fact, I became a Cimmerian in spirit – believe that further myself.
So the execution of the king and his children - is just an ordinary act of violence of the Bolsheviks.
Though evil enough, but I wish I would live in a thread of Chuguyevka and then earned bread, felt to the rest of life is great...Maybe the idea of humanism is not particularly applicable to that time, but to kill children - it was unnecessary.
By the way, my hometown used to be called the Alekseyevskaya in honor of the heir to the throne Tsarevich Alexei, now Free.
Did it ever occur to you that if he was so noble and smart, you should understand that the head of it, as I am a pharmacist
Ankh 8, as he could come to a head, when he heard from the court environment, how smart, skillful, correct, that the plan of the king of Russia's victory
What do you think, justified in this shooting? or not?
absolutely not justified. In the end, was more rational outputs to fiction of absolute monarchy. for example, the link. In addition, I do not think that the right was to abolish the absolute monarchy, because the Russian Empire was a powerful country thanks to Catherine the great, Peter the great and other emperors. But Nicholas II it is a pity that it ended, though, as we said, one of the reasons was his softness and indecision in the sense that was not his opinion...although it is a controversial issue about the reasons therefore, to say nebudu.
I do not understand why it was necessary to shoot the family if Nicholas has refused the throne
If someone already answered, sorry, could no one noticed, and yet the explanation is simple: mass is unmanaged, and its psychology is quite strong (type all ran and I ran) and few can go against the crowd especially if the crowd is far from covering poitivnoe sensations.
Need To Hide
It is a justification of revolution, and the darkness of corpses?
It's not an excuse is a reason.
A bad leader doesn't mean a bad servant of the people
Funny you logic. What is the main function of the head of state? To lead this government. And if he did all the rest already nobody cares. And the Commander must understand that his dollars..in will cost human lives. So if you're a simple man, then be a wonderful person, and a specialist can be anything, but if you did someone's life depend on, can be a jerk the last, but the specialist must be excellent.
Who knows, I mean, how do we know what conditions you fate will give in power?
No, I mean, what you wrote about the tragic consequences for those who you like.
stalker7162534
how he could come to a head, when he heard from the court environment, how smart, skillful, correct, that the plan of the king of Russia's victory
Yes special not mind - sycophants can say anything, but the objective facts are always the same: the result of the war, the absence/presence of large unrest, as living standards and the economy, etc.
Yes, murder is probably impossible to achieve a positive result. I did not find the murder of the Royal family too manly thing to do. Of course, that wasn't necessary - but to judge murderers I don't take, for reasons a hundred times already named in this thread.
That to the power of the Russian Empire - and what it was? Mainly in military power. What price paid by Russian people for military glory? Huge price - how much blood, suffering, hardships suffered by the Russian and fraternal people, and a lot of it was senseless, unnecessary bloodshed and casualties. The Russian army has never been any high level of training, no weapons, all this was offset by the bravery and courage of the soldiers. The lack of the necessary level of armament, illiterate, foreign policy is clearly the fault of the ruler.
One cannot deny the great talents of the commanders, Kutuzov, Suvorov, Alexander Nevsky - his command they saved a lot of lives, and prevented the disappearance of Russia as a country in General. But however heavy the war threatened the life of the great Russian Empire won the people. Not the state and the people.
Well, then, you, Anna, claimed that Russia was great thanks to the kings? Yes, if everything depended on them, we have not had on the political map. The people with their blood corrected mistakes most of the idiots kings and their commanders sycophants. The monarchy had to fall, the people at that time ripe for the new, but to abandon the monarchy, when it was still not too late - was not under force for a mediocre king and the person of Nicholas II - he brought disaster on himself. Personally, I don't feel bad.
Well, then, you, Anna, claimed that Russia was great thanks to the kings? Yes, if everything depended on them, we have not had on the political map.
1. actually, I meant the scale and leadership...but Oh well, nihotite to understand inappropriately, only popered not run
2. Only because the kings there, and this way I do not deny (how can you see that I don't know), but they were liderami the initiators of ideas. And no war without blood is not. And of course, personally, to fight and capture the land, they did not go, but again govern the country for its prosperity, too, should be able to. Katka generally a German was she the idea was supposed to be anyway, but still.
3. Here manichka all of you :) to argue when it's a girl, though it is not a Russian, expressed his opinion, nothing at all speaking about you, because we all have different opinions on this....Nevermind :)
4. The people with their blood corrected mistakes most of the idiots kings and their commanders sycophants.
Catherine and Peter are idiots? 0_0....after that, even writing inappropriately to me, I think quite the opposite and also believe that the Soviet leaders were no better
5.The monarchy had to fall, the people at that time ripe for the new, but to abandon autocracy
And what has changed? Became better to live? Disappeared power, war, slavery (the slave trade still exists)? No, just different regime called the political form of government is different.
Ankh 8
19.10.09 22:21 Yes special not mind - sycophants can say anything, but the objective facts are always the same: the result of the war, the absence/presence of large unrest, as living standards and the economy, etc.
What about living standards is debatable. I remember the jokes
-How do You imagine communism?
- All will be in abundance, and meat and fish, will be to go abroad, well the word as in the king
My grandmother, and before the revolution life was difficult?
- Yes, grandson, there was no bread, butter smeared directly on the sausage.
As for the results of the war, of unrest, so after the king abdicated the same. But that was then, and at first when he was the military budget cut in favor of the Navy, leaving the army without sufficient funding, then the court in his ears giugale: the king's plan - Russia's victory!
Anna V.
20.10.09 06:56 Catherine and Peter are idiots?
How much do You know about them? You don't know how Petr1 drank and died in the end from the alcohol?
You don't know how Petr1 drank and died in the end from the alcohol?
What Rezun now began to pour shit and pre-revolutionary Russia?
-Solid Snake-and You confuse nothing? In the books of V. Suvorov do not throw shit of the USSR and defended his honor, stated that we were not friends of the Nazis, and was not afraid of these freaks. Do what You're here remembered Rezun?
and You confuse nothing? In the books of V. Suvorov do not throw shit of the USSR and defended his honor, stated that we were not friends of the Nazis, and was not afraid of these freaks.
All this was known before the birth of Rezun.
Do what You're here remembered Rezun?
Because I saw Your post.
You don't know how Petr1 drank and died in the end from the alcohol?
Please give a link.
Nihilianth, and this You are to Witchita :)))) it is a lot of things about the Russian tsars knows.
In the books of V. Suvorov do not throw shit USSR
Even as watered.
There strongly appears the idea that the USSR is a hundred times worse than Nazi Germany.
defended his honor
Slander about the aggressive intentions?
it is alleged that we were no friends of the Nazis, and was not afraid of these freaks
About friends of the Nazis blather that you don't force me to duplicate your quotes.
As for fear - so one of the historians is not asserted.
And if the person from the statement Rezun, among others, the thesis argues that the USSR was scared of Germany easily displays the anyone who does not agree with the concept of Rezun argues that the Soviet Union feared German, then this man is a brainless schmuck, absolutely not knowing logic.
The laws of de Morgan teach, moron.
You don't know how Petr1 drank and died in the end from the alcohol?
know. even know how Catherine died (this disease is really dangerous), but in the first place that Katka that Peter was the emperors and people with health problems. each has its own quirks and negative sides. But fools they were not