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wy_vern01 02.05.20 09:16 pm

Help find out the cause of failure

Guys, Hello! Collected a computer from scratch, everything worked perfectly for two weeks, and then abruptly appeared blue screen of death and Windows stopcd. The comp reboots, there is an inscription ASR, and he gives this blue screen and again restarts indefinitely, or hangs completely. And did not manage to the end to find out why, although everything seems to be leading to the motherboard. Situation following: the computer sees all the components, RAM tests, video card is also working, with hard drive problems it is not revealed, BUT tried to connect other hard-to-PC, and as a family can not go to Windows, although everyone reads, sees everything. When you try to reinstall Windows, the system also sees everything, but when I start the install (at least with the stick, at least from the disk), the icon appears on the Windows before loading and at this point everything hangs. Demolition of the BIOS and put a new one, the problem does not change. Mother MSI B250m pro-vd, percents i7 7700. Can anyone have some options, what's the problem? Help pliz, I don't want mother back in Germany to send, especially at 100% without knowing why.
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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Garik Nevskoy
no, in the BIOS the PC freezes. I do not exclude that there was a virus or driver issue, before blue just installed the game and swung in different files. but then the question arises why the system at all with one hard does not start, Windows don't update, do nothing. is there a way to check your version?
with RAM, we conducted memtest, he did no mistakes have not seen, and the modules are alternated, in General, as something very unlikely, it looks that the problem is her.

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Garik Nevskoy 02.05.20

wy_vern01
Sanchez Ramirez wrote above about AHCI. Also aware of the problem, but the problem still the same. Sits down the computer completely on the blueprint, and solved it by editing the registry or the demolition and installation of Windows. The virus, by the way, can change the registry key that AHCI and plant system.
wy_vern01 wrote:
why do none of the hard does not start
This is interesting. Loader verucosa or something... I would try formatnut drive completely, but with third-party companies.
wy_vern01 wrote:
with RAM, we conducted memtest, he did no mistakes have not seen, and the modules are alternated, in General, as something very unlikely, it looks that the problem is her.
to try with the other module still need some kind of standard on 2133 obviously working, this is the diagnosis

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Garik Nevskoy
duck third-party computers can see my hard, they were older and not able to run for 10 Windows, but the installation of Windows 7, we launched without any problems, so not in those hard trouble, which gives my system because it does not start at all, no hard, but sees them all. By the way my PC after the failure of once still managed to go to the desktop, hung there for a few seconds and it still rebooted. In General, I in full confusion, all hell will understand why. You don't know, could this processor be? Or if you have another idea what can I check?

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Nevskoy Garik wrote:
what can you do with AHCI in the BIOS everything seems right, but I'm not changed before the crash. And if the virus planted in the system, what to do? Really the feeling is that all the components are at least partially working, like a small nuance not enough to complete the puzzle and normal operation of the system.

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zloy pomorskiy armyanin 02.05.20

wy_vern01
To separate software problems from failure iron zagrozi from any live cd and work.
If the problem persists:
1.To disable the VC and hard. To try from the built-in live cd
If not:
2. Alternately to leave one memory module.
3. If not try another PSU.

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zloy pomorskiy armyanin 02.05.20

wy_vern01
Yes, I forgot. To reset the BIOS to default.

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

borer
BIOS dropped, memory modules, changed and tested, nothing found.
but with the live cd interesting topic, I did not know about this. if correctly understood: I will be able this operating system to throw onto a flash drive and try to start it? and if it starts then the problem is in the software, and if it does not start, is it really iron? I understand you correctly?

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Garik Nevskoy 02.05.20

wy_vern01 wrote:
duck third-party computers can see my hard, they were older and not able to run for 10 Windows, but the installation of Windows 7, we launched without any problems, so not in those hard trouble, which gives my system because it does not start at all, no hard, but sees them all.
When you install Windows writes to your hard loader in the protected area on the disk. Perhaps there's something grunted. As already said, it is necessary formatnut disc is completely on the other computer, plug it in, boot from native is visible to the computer, your Windows disk will see formatnut it completely, then connect to your computer, take for example the other ditrib Windows, even though there will be seven or 8.1 and try to deliver. I have no idea what else to suggest.
wy_vern01 wrote:
what can you do with AHCI
http://www.entroducing.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ahciregistry.gif As an example, where seven change keys in the registry to overcome the blue. On 8.1 and 10 the arrangement of the keys probably in other branches of the registry. But it's definitely need to know where to edit.

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zloy pomorskiy armyanin 02.05.20

wy_vern01
Download any way the live cd make a bootable disk or USB flash drive and boot.
Yes, you understood correctly. Then do the points.

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BoBaIIyTuH 02.05.20

wy_vern01
Here esteem deciphering codes
https://answers.microsoft.com/ru-ru/windows/forum/windows_7-update/коды/b5035a8a-19a5-499f-82cc-651058fcbff8

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Ace of Spades
good time, finally tried your tip: chipped CPU multiplier to 20 (2000 MHz) and all start! The voltage is also changed, but it was not the one needed, so it is not affected, and need I not found. Then put the multiplier by default to automatic mode and the problem appeared again, the computer gave stopcd. in the end, brought the multiplier up to the stated frequency of 3.6 MHz, this is indicated in the specifications of my CPU and the computer is running. But when the default mode is automatic, the standard frequency of 3.6 MHz and higher (the line ring ratio) shows 3.9. So, my percent went down, and now the only option is to change it?

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Ace of Spades
sorry to 3600 MHz also ceased to run, what in the blue dye comes out: and rebooted a couple of times and is auto-update system, waited a few minutes, no hangs, but nothing changes. In the end, who went to 3000 MHz while running.

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Ace of Spades 02.05.20

wy_vern01
Of course, your CPU now it is only a keychain.
You have a couple of days to work at 2000 MHz, and then everything will be the same. Just killed the stone you have.
One option to change. But better just in case test it on another Mat Board.

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Ace of Spades
The problem is that there is no other motherboard, so I already checked. Tomorrow will carry in service, let's see what they say. Here dickhead, and now the computer will not include, and should be send to Germany. Thank you very much, he would not understand.

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Ace of Spades 02.05.20

wy_vern01
I have all the same thing.
I took familiar to collectors, they test with me. Died processor.

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

Ace of Spades
And it could have happened my fault? Hooked up something wrong, for example. Or in the case of percent is usually a manufacturing defect.

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Ace of Spades 02.05.20

wy_vern01
XS. Unlikely. There's probably a limit to the voltage you have sewn.
Usually the marriage, Yes.

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HER535 02.05.20

Anyways I controller on the mother changed everything about the class

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callmegod 02.05.20

Be sure to accomplish your goal, how to deal with the problem.
And another thing. I have max consumption was about 420в. Sistemki in the profile. + 4 cooler (3 rgb) + 3 usb's always on the job. Case with RGB.
At BP there is an actual power. If it says 430, 430 this does not mean in real life. In addition, the voltage is sinking with age. But unlike BP, too critical error no load. If power consumption is not max, then the CPU runs only at 800.

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wy_vern01 02.05.20

callmegod
as I wrote, the computer started to run after I dropped the CPU multiplier. took it to the service, and at the end I was given that the problem is likely still with the motherboard. and it is very implicit, that is, a specific of breakage no. the guy said that the system is very unstable, hangs in one place download, then another, then do the normal start. well said this will continue and over time will break and the motherboard should be any change. what I am right now, I use the computer a few days, works like normal, but the risk is probably not going to, slowly I will be planning a replacement.