Today was a war...
For most citizens of the once vast Soviet Union, where Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, etc. was just a sort of very large Autonomous areas, 22 of June 1941 the Great Patriotic War. This war was only part of the Second World War, but for the most part honoring the memory of those times, she always will remain the great Patriotic war. Some of you reading this stream of consciousness, probably know, at least from the first Call of Duty that barely trained recruits thrown into battle with one rifle for two. Call of Duty 2 this aspect was also raised - the training is actually at the forefront, but there's no shortage of weapons was not. Maybe even someone reading Basil terkina by Alexander Tvardovsky, which affected only small aspects of the heroism of our people into the bloody meat grinder:
And, at zabiegow crust
The ice broke off,
He he, Vasily Terkin,
Stood up alive — made a raft.
Smooth, naked, as from the bath,
Got up, staggering heavily.
No teeth, no lips
Not running — brought.
Caught, tied,
Gave the boots from his feet.
Threatened, ordered -
Can, whether, and run.
My grandfather was a War veteran, lived right up to 1993-th year. Drinking. And before the war he didn't drink at all. And only recently I learned that my grandfather told me, I began to drink.
Preparing for pre-winter in the attack to cross the river. Standing waist-deep in icy water, and between fighters was ice. And while waiting for the signal to attack soldiers rolled across the ice to each other a flask of alcohol to stay warm.
For comparison, I can remember the allied landings on the Normandy beaches: they first prepared the infrastructure. And equipped their fighters were much better.
Many of the ordinary soldiers held out long after the war. Had drunk, inflamed wounds, some thundered into camp. Who at the meetings with the students talked about what was happening in the war? Or staff, or aviation, or artillery... That is, those who are sitting waist-deep in icy water, deep in a dirty swamp. The rest about this to remember is not loved. For them it was a bloody chore and quite interesting routine, which quickly want to forget. Even the victory day since 1945, there has been no up to 1954. One of the probable causes veterans would not accept this show. At the time, similar negativity fasten a film about Chapaev, which is out of session veterans of the Civil War reviled, as it is now said, is unrealistic and not matching real events.
And although the game does not enable you to feel full, then swallowed in his time the infantry, but I hope that the new Call of Duty: WWII is a realistic and without the bredyatiny stuffed at the time, World at War.
An__ei wrote:
...false anti-Soviet movie
...the formation of a false anti-Soviet image
When it is done abroad - it is still possible to understand. But when back Home, you have spit in the face and the soul of your past and wipe their feet on the exploits and heroism of their ancestors - that is disgusting. Just look at modern domestic films about the war, which received moral and material support top of power, where the main heroes are prisoners and criminals, in the vast majority of scenes of Soviet soldiers are shown filthy, narrow-minded and cowardly, and the Soviet officer - hysterical scumbag and a bastard.
Yes, in any Call of Duty on the theme of World War II historical accuracy more than that to sponsor the shit that filmed in Russia in the last fifteen years.
stаlker7162534
Wow, someone unban!
Of course, the Stalker that people closer to the heart of the exploits of his countrymen than the heroic defense of Poland or selfless landing on the Normandy coast. Remember that, as our own history.
Lord Vivec wrote:
2.Actually, the war started the first of September 1939, when Soviet soldiers began to kill together with their allies the poles, then Finns, then occupied the Baltic States, conducting brutal repression against the local population.
This hour is not quotes with the new Ukrainian history textbooks for schools? 8)
Wing42 wrote:
Wow, someone unban!
I remember a long post in the footsteps of the South Ossetian conflict 8) How many parts (themes).. it was more than twenty! )
And he's here again. And as always stuffing, which can be easily broken into smithereens. And raving about the only winner in the war (this is the American issue, by the way), and about the exceptional achievements of Russian" and that the Russian prefer not to think about [name of event], lol..
My opinion is simple: you need to talk about everything, not omitting facts of the war. The main - sequence. If you are talking about the everyday life of soldiers at war, you can mention things like lice. If you are talking about major battles, lice not to blame.
A. Soldier of Light
I did not realize was addressed to someone your message, but I am against the distortion and the inherent extremes. Some shout: Russian heroes! Single-handedly defeated Hitler! Other answer them Yes, Stalin was a dick himself was no better than Hitler! He and his Russian henchmen all Baltic enslaved!...
The truth as always is somewhere in the middle- and that was the annexation, in the end, recognized by Europe and the United States is legal, and what is supposedly enslaved Nations in the Union republics were better off invaders from the Russian Federation...
Andreabocelli
It is not an hour from Ukrainian sources ? As I understand it you declare that Siberia, what is now, shall the war by the transfer of factories from the West of the Soviet Union ?
An__ei
An__ei wrote:
It is not an hour from Ukrainian sources ?
I'm sorry, but you too paranoid.
An__ei wrote:
As I understand it you declare that Siberia, what is now, shall the war by the transfer of factories from the West of the Soviet Union ?
Novosibirsk - 100% true. How else would he less than 100 (one hundred!) years of its history became cities? Tomsk, Omsk, Tyumen, Irkutsk, Bratsk, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok (many more can be listed) at a much more ancient history few of them have population over a million has passed, and some barely balancing the near half a million.
Andreabocelli
Do not write about the place where you've never been , it looks ridiculous . The city was developed as a result of economic demand for the products of their factories . And to make of the fact that Ukraine has deployed several plants of the cult of this is paranoia . Two hundred people came from each plant, and in a few decades in these cities has become a million population to such to guess ...........
Andreabocelli
Well, slogans can also be stripped for parts. For example, when talking about the Russians that won the war, you need the hotfix. Because not only Russians were there, but a number of other Nations. And not only citizens of the USSR, by the way.
A. Soldier of Light
the right to speak - the Soviet people won the war. Although (at least here in Siberia) of those who have been before the war or during the war here, outside national territorial units (municipality, national district, autonomy, etc.) are usually kept apart by the Germans. The Tatars and they were assimilated and identificeret themselves as Russian. Again - outside the national territorial entities. All the others who kept apart, retain their own languages - it came in recent years from Central Asia - all sorts of Kazakhs, Uzbeks, and whoever else, and not necessarily in national but also on the grounds of beliefs.