Optimization of games or what ?
On some games there is such a thing as for some unknown reason, dramatically raises the temperature of your card without increasing the load on the GPU and the memory. For example, in Fallout 4 was on one of the locations and after a few minutes the temperature jumped from 60* to 82*, but when I ran from this place about 50 meters, the temperature recovered. The same was observed on the maps of the mod in Far Cry 4, and other games.Vidyuhi GTX 780 Ti. The typical load on the GPU=50-60%, memory=50=80%, temperature 50-70*.
Guess that's due to poor optimization of the games in some locations, but it is strange that only increases the temperature, without increasing the load on the GPU and the memory. Who is met and what can I say ?
pochtipushkin
Intel Core i7 2600K (3.4 GHz), loaded mostly 50%, but in some games up to 80%. RAM of 16 GB is loaded mainly by 4-5 GB. OS - Win.7 x64. Drives SSD and HDD.
vftor
Clear.
That's just 50% - 60% download of THIS video, well, this is something very strange at the moment. This can be in two cases:
1) the Man is playing her in undemanding games.
2) People playing on Titan.
I mean that with my 970 game quite a while already drink juices under 99%, and then that 780 tenses so much less?
pochtipushkin
1. GTX 780 Ti is comparable in performance with the GTX Titan Black, except for memory (3 GB and 6 GB).
2. Play games until mid-2016, but played in all the latest games with the graphics settings on high, but disable the secondary setting and limiting the FPS to 48 or 40 or even 30 Hz. All of these games did not like, besides non-optimized, and so demolished them without regret.
3. GTX 970 is much weaker than GTX 780 Ti.
kc5
Yes, as did the references exist? And then it was before?
Your quote: the cooler-graphics card need to not warmed to above 60. Well, or 65 if the card is 250 watts like you - I note that the temperature is not the only reason, noted the changes and other factors, and You repeated what I said earlier.
We're NOT TALKING about the operation at a constant temperature of 80 degrees! Carefully read! I said, and You reiterated that changes in temperature adversely affect the electronics, and I noted that it is better to operate at nominal performance CONSTANTLY. The law machinery. Although iron equipment in the enterprise, he sounds a little different: each start-up and shutdown of equipment operating in extremely high temperatures is the reduction of the turnaround time and service life of the metal due to thermal stress.
My quote visit.e. in real life, not so much the temperature itself, how many DROPS (on / off), mechanical damage, improper installation, vibration.
What I was trying to note That 60-65 degrees, this is a NEW numbers, previously on the old hardware was taken more. It is now on the architecture of Maxwell and Pascal adopted the numbers SMALLER. You're telling me about the differences, I already know. But they will disappear if, as You say, the quote the combination cooler-graphics card need to not warmed to above 60 - what changes will go with a different set of equipment? On/off, running game closure? The problem of the current changes, most software does not happen inexplicably jumps from 60 to 80, here is the explanation. There's a reason - solved problems if it's a General problem.
In the game I always look at the numbers, I have MSI Afterburner and the temperature does NOT CHANGE so abruptly 60-80! There is no such, never watched. It rests on one of the numbers and + - 5 degrees. Such indicators are not able to cause serious damage to the gland.
In the case vftor this jump is quite strange and CAN NOT take place. HOW? 20 degrees?
Even when you minimize the temperature changes slightly, I major changes in temperature saw.
I have here a card for$ 200 was dead for 3 years. The second one for 240$ from a small bend in 5 years - it explains everything and it DOES not mean that all of them die in 3-5 years.
I previously was a gtx 460, it still works in 2010. What? gtx 670 2013. One friend got burned from a voltage gtx 650, broke up with her. The reason why the graphics card is failing - a LOT, and it's not necessarily the temperature of work 80 degrees and variations, it can be one of the components of WHAT honey is, SAYING Ya Have a video card actually has protection for that matter.
PS I Have previously stood in the gtx 980, worked for a year, sold it, now the gtx 1080, merely as forcible cooling - 28-33 degrees, in the load reaches 65. At the same time, the game dropped and the temperature fell from 65 to 33 (a difference of 32 degrees), almost instantly. WELL? Let's see how many survive. 80 degrees I can not check, I will NOT REACH SUCH TEMPERATURE. I have a modified work schedule of the fans want it, even without it, a maximum of 75 degrees. 80 degrees I already have 100% fans NOW. FurMark was able to squeeze 73.
The conversation is about. The temperature jumps from 60 to 80, and when you minimise it just not falling. 3D app is launched.
The temperature difference happens all the time, and then what? Perhaps, they can try to minimize, but, as I said, and You repeated - nominal mode of operation, a minimal number of on / off cycles like a computer, and out of the game. I have a PC running all day, standing on the hands, but the consumption of e/e small + stop/start the PSU and HDD ( I have 4 of them), then I realize that it is not necessary server disks so often to Park, it's one of the reasons.
After 3 years the graphics card is morally obsolete, I probably will change, because while you can afford it, and I'm one of those seeking a comfortable FPS of 50+ and a beautiful picture. Although after 3 years, the outfit-whether I'm playing, work more, change of plans, but that's another story.
Here are the same people, and do not know of such details (acceleration, turns off/on), and do not care, it works.
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pochtipushkin
That's just 50% - 60% download of THIS video, well, this is something very strange And I'm about the same note. Even if the load to lower, she can't fall, I would believe 65-85, but 50-60. But here you need to see 60 - vertical sync pulse and only 50-60%.
He launched Far Cry 3 if you have enabled vertical sync, and saw a 60+ load.
This is how you have to lower the game settings to see 50-60% load. Tin.
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vftor
All of these games did not like, besides non-optimized - Where the conclusion is? What? And You know that the graphics component is not in place, and develops, the technology, and in the real world, not in the optimization business, business in gland. And how can you judge about optimization, WHEN and limit the FPS to 48 or 40 or even 30 Hz. Something I did not catch. To speak about optimization, and LOCHIT FPS on 30-40-48 frames? To lower the settings, and the quenching capabilities of the game. That's when these games start to lag on 1080/1080 TI in FullHD, then we should celebrate, but when the old man, even conceding 980 TI, but in FullHD. Something's wrong here. In the yard in 2017. The 780TI year - what year of release of the graphics card 2013? Now 970 is considered to be weak, for it flew drags 980/1060 - NOT LONG from now, well, for a comfortable game in 60 frames. Oh, no, FullHD, they are ALREADY WEAK. Why people changed the 970 to 1070/1080, here's the thing.
That's just the norm. - STRONGLY DISAGREE. The norm is the operation of equipment as expected. But You, even at 50-60% load, the temperature of 50-70. 've gone far from us then? What want to prove? At a lower load will be less to pass electrons? The temperature in the medium, is the same. But the game in not optimized, wow. About optimization, with this approach, says should not. (so petty mark, I apologize for that overly clever).
GTX 970 far weaker than GTX 780 Ti - MISTAKE. They are equal, well almost, 1 - 5 frames, don't make a big difference:
970 vs 780 TIhttp://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1717?vs=1743
Something I didn't think. But it IS NOT necessary for you to talk about optimization (it is recommended) with outdated hardware 2013, a approach to lower the settings and keep the load at 50-60%. And, of course, blame the optimization of games, not a VERY frugal user, obviously reduces to the construction and capabilities of the graphics card. Oh, and Lucasi FPS.
Offer!!!!!!
Buy 1080 TI is topic in 2017 (I know that there was even better, but omit it). Set lock FPS, get a small load at 50-60%, even, well, certainly not reducing the settings for 1080 FullHD TI good drags. Enjoy optimization!
A couple of years to repeat the procedure. This is the secret of optimization.
vftor
GTX 970 is much weaker than GTX 780 Ti - comrade do not tell people. Your video card is not much bypasses the 970 in games and where video memory is not used more than 3 GB. 970 if not has stated 4GB, but in applications that use more than 3GB of video behaves better.
You've written a load on vidyahu 50-60% should not be. And described a possible situation when this can happen.
Need to do tests much. on Your place I would try to manually increase airflow to the graphics card and let the buzzing, but the temperature keeps. If all else fails, contact the STS.
vftor
www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1717?vs=1743
3. GTX 970 is much weaker than GTX 780 Ti.
Man, that's just not necessary to sing songs.
There is a difference in average of 2-5 fps, even in favor of the 780. Where is this LOT? 970 when I took it, watched a bunch of tests at that time and knowingly took 970, which is only millimeter inferior to the 780 in performance, but cost much cheaper.
With such meager difference in maximum performance may not be a difference in 2 times in the load (50% -60% vs 99%).
pochtipushkin
Yes, he underestimates the settings locit FPS - 30-40-48 frames per second, and surely the resolution decreases. For what? Protects a card, and then they are expensive, if it will work on 50-60% will live longer. While telling everyone what a poor optimization of the games.
Probably thought that buying the TOP, back in 2013 (exit 780 TI) will now ALWAYS sit with her long and hard, here's the truth optimization gives (2017).
The point here thrift. That's just the graphics and the requirements have changed. And now, the 780 TI is a niche.
I offered to take 1080 TI. In lean download graphics 50-60% in games, sulochana FPS and maybe lower settings (in rare cases, really poorly optimized projects), enjoy optimization, however a couple of years. Then repeat the procedure.
Here's a quote:
vftor wrote:
And play monitor 1920x1080 (main) + 1280x1024 (control). Games can be adjusted (on high) to the graphics card were loaded on 50-60% when FPS=60. With optimized games it works fine, but with poorly optimized, do lock the FPS to 48 Hz, or even 30.
vftor wrote:
Play games until mid-2016, but played in all the latest games with the graphics settings on high, but disable the secondary setting and limiting the FPS to 48 or 40 or even 30 Hz. All of these games did not like, besides non-optimized, and so demolished them without regret.
VOVAN WOLF
your video card dies due to high temperatures. Kander either just burned or the memory dies.. Kander with memory changes. but when REBOL that sucks. usually long it will last after repair.. then it loaded the games, 99% is the norm in this trouble no.. the main temperature security.. and about life. read what the difference between the gtx from the gt platform. and find out efficiency.. and Yes the resource and the heart has. did you know?)))
kc5
I hope in a good way. Article rivet noble, sit and think nothing is not forgotten?.
Fei Fong
Yes, 1060 at the level of the gtx 980. 980 970 is more powerful on 15%. And not the GTX 780 and GTX 780 TI (Titanium stands for, if I remember correctly). The 780 is weaker than the 970, but the 780 TI is on a par (we're talking about it, right?). You know, dug up stuff, and so clear.
"and Yes, the resource and the heart has. did you know? - of course, what?
About the temperature we all know that better than 90 degrees do not bend. 80, for older graphics cards, it is quite tolerable. For the rest of the chase makes no sense. And Yes, I don'T TALK about kandarah, they are cooled and THEIR temperature is NOT CONNECTED with the temperature of the GPU. However.
I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT the LOAD of 50-60%, the TOPIC. We say that the graphics card needs to work out the money, and 99% is the norm.
VOVAN WOLF
it's nothing personal) but it is silly to judge the time card load it in the game.. usually in each game it must be downloaded from 95-99% if of course the game of the year 2005 then Yes maybe the graphics card 70-80% is loaded.. but 40-50% of it is there is reason to think.. and not bottleneck it?)))))
Ahah.. Holy shit. )))
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And on the subject, that is,. for example right now in Andromeda. Temp doesn't jump, but the GPU for no reason 87% with no load.
At the start has long been miracles happen. It is unclear why. Personally, I err on protection, no matter what.. because in half a year-year all normal plays.
About фоллаут4 on my system in ultra 47-60fps. Load GPU-62%, temper 45градусов.
No abnormal heat was observed. Truth is I have no litsuha, repak from mechanics.
VOVAN WOLF
Timur Akilov
pochtipushkin
1. Optimization is a long conversation. I can only say this: a good Indicator of optimization - working the game runs with the same framerate on a wide range of hardware configurations, including low and no jerks, no loss of textures, without jumps in the load on the CPU and GPU without crashing.
2. Comparison of the main features of the GTX 780 Ti and GTX 970:
- peaks.the speed of fill.textures - 210 and 109 (GTX 780 Ti is better)
- memory bus - 384, and 256 (GTX 780 Ti is better)
- carrying ability.memory 336 and 224 (GTX 780 Ti is better)
The only thing better GTX 970 is the amount of memory (4 GB vs 3)
GTX 970 is more in line with the GTX 770 with 4GB.
Fei Fong
xD)
You probably also want to show their ultra in фоллаут4, huh? without bolnica. )))