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Immense 08.06.20 09:36 pm

The key item. (Diablo 2)

I propose a vote of players on the change key of an item. It may be held in several stages.
1. The first step is to decide whether the change key of an item.
2. On the second to consider possible alternatives to the current item.
3. Reasonable of the proposed options to choose the one(or more, if none of the options would not have an appreciable margin) and to offer his administration.

Please do not offtopic and not to make srachnik.
Please unsubscribe on the first two items. Preferably simple, for example,
1. Yes;
2. Named unik Armory.
and a brief explanation if you need it(key word brief).
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firkax 08.06.20

Rivnyanyn
Why are you kei-itema approved? o_o
apparently you have no use to explain something, but still write: nothing to do statements I don't have

__Slayer__
Much safer to do as I suggested - to rely only on themselves,
well, so do
within the game, of course, not trying to change it from the outside
understand game mechanics is external to the players condition, it acts unilaterally (mechanics on the players, not Vice versa)
want anything to achieve it - is the scope of this mechanics, and you can change their behavior within this framework (I - do charity work to increase the availability of anything, you want - do not trust anyone and do it all alone, etc.) and not the frame (runes nobody will draw and the mechanics under your preferences not rebuilt), otherwise it will not be gameplay and some specks at all

KISfly
And unless the game is not prepatched automatically when connecting to the server the PlayGround?
propatches
And the difference between single mode from the network if a game with a license disk, and the patch with the above mentioned servers?
At least the presence of a World event'and and Uber Quest'as. I don't know what was the matter.

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Rivnyanyn 08.06.20

nothing to do statements I don't have
Well, not I and not my hut:)

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minovalo 08.06.20

Drain off the excess soy Okara = sorry for all. As soon as we can get to work.

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KISfly 08.06.20

firkax wrote: I do Not understand just what was the question
The chance of runs in the single and server. He's very different, a single is much higher. Again the game client from the license disk.

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Obsessed 08.06.20

you can change your behavior within this framework
__Slayer__, or at least to get out of them. well, I think this will not happen! © ;D

KISfly, this dupe already. the main FIRC and respects blizzov before the release 1.13 => sundrop here early as. the logic is, because the seasons long. but.. )

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redoolf 08.06.20

I'd like to see it with Flawed Gems as a key item-and, although I'm not sure that this will solve the problem.
Me personally in the current situation with the clone is not like that in the game introduced a lot of non-game moments. For example, voyeurism IP games, which turned out to be allowed (but nowhere is written about it for some reason). Still to take the situation with the latest clone couple of days a certain IP has been Packed and the games on it is not new - it turns out had the advantage people with stable Internet and the ability a day to keep open many Windows.
I would like to see similar elements from the game were removed.

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

firkax

well, so do
With such a drop as a PG even as a nerd to do it is almost unreal. You ever wonder why the people cooperating in groups to extract anyhow? Certainly not because killing uber Diablo one unreal.

within the game, of course, not trying to change it from the outside
That is, enter the bug hang around, new key items to summon the uber, cutting and im doing what the dr stuff is still okay, or do like you said: this is not gameplay but a crap at all. If it is OK, why not a change in the terms of call for uber to enter again?

want anything to achieve
I don't want to achieve anything in the game, I want to get the maximum enjoyment. To do charity with such conditions as ng - is silly and unproductive. Yourself to dress as your heart desires, it would have been great.

You have strange logic - wigs need to be removed. And how then generally to be? Run with and without sakimi top runwindow?
What is you position on the account server? For you to develop or to completely ruin it?
A large proportion of the left PG players left it not because tired, but because the armor began to get harder; pvp because of this, no now.
Any see any problems with making the clone available to everyone, reducing requirements to call it, and that he appeared in single quantities. To make for example the n-th number of young SOCA on the challenge of one Diablo. Everyone will be in private game to call and embossing any. The mechanism is about the same as with torches.

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Immense 08.06.20

Alas, the theme slid into srachnik:(
And from the above we conclude that for changing the key of itema were 8 people, 3 against.
Of the Express for single opinion there is only wanting a clone in a separate game.
Well, the sample is certainly too small for an objective assessment, but offer to consider this option GN'y. Although that bustle he saw everything already:)

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

Immense
I think just the section server comes at times less people than sitting mostly. So my opinion has been shared by a lot more people.

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firkax 08.06.20

__Slayer__
With such a drop as a PG even as a nerd to do it is almost unreal.
Your arguments in this dialog is equivalent to the following: I want to have everyone on the planet had the opportunity to get a ton of gold, but something it is hard to find, but to help them (to give gold to everyone) do not want - is unrealistic so much gold to find, even being a nerd in the mines. I did not see where lies the problem?

That is, enter the bug hang around, new key items to summon the uber, cutting and im doing what the dr stuff is still okay. ... If it is OK, why not a change in the terms of call for uber to enter again?
All the above is done by those who initially beyond (outside) from the border of the game world. And from their side this is called server administration. That's the asymmetry - some give the server, others use it for the game. And uber changes will be fine, but again - from the other side, where the motivation does not contain a selfish component of gameplay (I want more runes, I want lighter aniki, etc.), that is, not yours in particular.



You have strange logic - wigs need to be removed. And how then generally to be? Run with and without sakimi top runwindow?
If you carefully read what I write, you would notice that wigs need to be removed because they give too many runes. Top ronford they even top that for the vast majority of players should be far out of reach somewhere above, and the fact that all sorts of Enigma have heaps of players, and the vultures so do almost everyone wants to this is a clear disorder.

What is you position on the account server? For you to develop or to completely ruin it?
(a small digression) does Not play as hitting, but it seems to me that you (like many others) was the victim of imposed ideas about a development. However this is not surprising, because we have everything in the world politicians and media unanimously assert that the success is only the economic growth, and not consistently positive situation without any growth or drops.
(now the case) as for servers, I don't know what you mean by its development, generally speaking if you have invested some meaning in this word, and not just mindlessly copied it from the agitations of the real about which I wrote above.

A large proportion of the left PG players left it not because tired, but because the armor began to get harder; pvp because of this, no now.
And this is a clear misinformation. And as much as three times in one sentence. Pvp is not particularly different from what it was during any of the last 10 years. Armor did not get harder (drop armor has not changed, and it's the only thing it affects). And finally, a large proportion left not even thinking about all that you write here. I think that GHGs annually leave thousands if not more players and comes in the same new, and most of them do not care for it all, they just came to have fun, have fun, and moved on. And so it is I think years from 2008-2009 (before it was noticeably less activity).

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ZuPeRnEkR 08.06.20

The Oldies, like Obsessed© direct insult)

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ZuPeRnEkR 08.06.20

As he now will live knowing the truth?

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Immense 08.06.20

__Slayer__
Yes, it doesn't matter. Will ircnet already said that they are so aware of everything, and if something and doing something based on the General situation. Call clone in a private game will not be in view of the fact that the meaning is lost world event. Apparently only Freemasons includes according to the administration this world. Although logically it should be a random event, as it was under flavedo...

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Immense 08.06.20

and because the gear started to get harder pvp because of this, no now.
And this is a clear misinformation
Of course disinformation, and that fries the tournament people did not have enough, is also misinformation.

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firkax 08.06.20

4 years ago I organized such a tournament and also did not have enough, nothing amazing

Although logically it should be a random event, as it was under flavedo...
then you're not playing and not in the subject (or were ignorant noob), so it was better to remain silent

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Obsessed 08.06.20

that is not of you in particular.
__Slayer__, with our, and yours. you're a player. I'm not you. ;-)

the fact that all sorts of vultures.. so do almost everyone wants to this is a clear disorder.
powerfit drop Lo! :D poor players Pehe..

GHG annually leave thousands, if not more
Yes millions, what you got? ;D

Rivnyanyn, scrounge is not the word. I can play ~2 hours a day. I have something to ask there is no need. in normal PVM D2 has obvious deficiencies, but they must be finished skillfully. in General, I wait all OK.; -)

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Immense 08.06.20

To argue or something to explain to you FIRC - it's like talking to a wall. Of course you can Express your opinion, but sometimes think twice before you write another stupidity.

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

firkax

I wish everyone on the planet had the opportunity to get a ton of gold
Why all you see are the simplification of the gameplay and chests cahow?

unreal so much gold to find, even being a nerd in the mines
To find real, but it is also that to save money 2 years a million dollars on a yacht, and then give all the others, so they bought it. The essence of the time that you need to spend the amount you want to. I don't play enough, but 4 zod for the season even at this rate the game I do not gather.

where motivation does not contain a selfish component of gameplay
Again, all the same chest cahow before my eyes... Read carefully my previous post, I did not say that should be easy. I said that we need to make uber available to everyone so that he doesn't depend on other players. Just consider what amount an abstract player must pay to call the Diablo so that it does not bring excess profits, but was not available.

As for servers, I don't know what you mean by its development
At least, that the people did not leave due to the inability to collect good runeword for a long period of time. That's why the administration has cut the wigs? All because it was less. The fact that one person held a mediocre three months, zadrot black does not mean that the rest of the so sit. There are guys which year is going to hammer with Enigma, but why this time to double? One Sakai and Viper hammer run is also not so hot. Or is it still so hot? You're the supporter to remove the wigs, and the drop to leave as is.

And this is a clear misinformation.
This is not misinformation, but a reality. Part of the old men sitting in the forum, left for this reason. Beginners, knowing that on this server you will have to plow, to work, that is good to carry out. And what a pleasure to run in the same months? Someone still remains and leads the wigs on, it's new armor, but it's not so simple. Drop cut and the coveted armor becomes further away.

Armor did not get harder
Pvp is not particularly different
Indeed, the Exodus did not get harder. It became more difficult to get the runes needed to purchase this gear and getting expensive Runewords.
Yeah, pvp all the same. Builds are the same, the armor is the same, the tactics are the same. Only now the people that cherished less. It is enough to trace the number of participants from 2010 to present and you can see the difference. On free tournament 10 bodies can not dial.

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__Slayer__ 08.06.20

Immense
To argue or something to explain to you FIRC - it's like talking to a wall.
I'm not trying to convince/persuade him and the administration, just talk) well This is a useless thing, proven over the years.

Obsessed
Choate my posts you MOP, apparently Fludac)

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Obsessed 08.06.20

Why all you see are the simplification of the gameplay and chests cahow?
__Slayer__, my version: is we, but nerds eksploitasi games holes (wigs etc.) until blue in the face. FIRC as COP - he often sees"bad" people. and the first thought he has when we we offer something to apnut: well, Yes, of course. I'll take a loot mule and the Trial dragged EVEN MORE and then he lost interest in the game.
in other words, he tries to dois does not suck infinitely many. of course, you can do to good games was obtained through the tension of the brain, but that ought to strain the brain, and why? :-)

my advice - forget to communicate with him. trust that he's simple player" and ignore his personal opinion. it deals with the position of official benefits, and it is ticking. nichrome it will not change from what you're asking, and the answer why is below his dignity. :-)