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Mayamenstate 22.07.20 02:53 am

Payment as a condition of downloading the game

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OculusMortem 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Chhat they wanted on your level of income. The fact of the matter is that the developers need to for their product pay a predetermined price or this product simply did not use. Most of them do not have.

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- DILOR- 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Happy birthday, Alien!
Spielerinnen abducted by other aliens feel at ease.

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SanKa Games 22.07.20

Mayamenstate wrote:
on its own terms and not on mine?
Why do you write on its own terms, not mine? Why? There was here, too, the philosopher-economist. The current economy was based for centuries, the rules imposed to neither one nor the other party did not demand absurd things. You are not forced to dance or something there still to do in order to buy something. Without these laws, I totally would've charged you a penalty - a ruble for every second of my precious time spent on you, and figure you would I said.

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OculusMortem 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Mayamenstate wrote:
For you, it turns out that you have the right to sell your apartment, buy a Studio apartment, and the remaining money to buy a top-end PC?
Yes, I have that right.

Mayamenstate wrote:
And no you do not have the right to say anything, because the law did you break?
Yeah, not violated.

Mayamenstate wrote:
And the police should close their eyes as you throw money? It's a money grab pure and simple.
What is a divorce? No one forced you to do it, so do you yourself, not someone else. The fool in this case you.

Mayamenstate wrote:
You can't get the loader, you cannot sell the apartment - money on the PC, you can find only without strain.
Who told you that? No matter what you find the money, whether it be PC or food - they need to earn.

Mayamenstate wrote:
For example, some billionaire bought a red Ferrari. And a miner has sold his house and bought exactly the same red Ferrari. And then they met on the road. And this billionaire when I saw the same red Ferrari, as he just was stunned. He learned about this person - that this is a common miner, he sold his house for that Ferrari... And he's asked what he wants from him?
No, he will not have this issue. The billionaire will just think that the miner a fool, just sold his house over a car. He should buy a penny, but he acted like a complete idiot.

Mayamenstate wrote:
Here in the West arises the same question: what people in Russia want their top-end PC?
Does not occur have this question, do not invent.

Mayamenstate wrote:
If a person buys goods at a price not corresponding to their level of income - which is much higher that deep down he hopes that his income will improve. With him having a relationship wanted, just his income until corrected.
No, keep your childish thoughts. If you buy item means you can afford it. If you can't afford to buy anything then don'T BUY it, otherwise you're a Berk with a stupid, naive hope for something that you yourself invented.

Mayamenstate wrote:
As it was supposed to be? You have to have a relationship, but the income is not yet fixed: sell all your stuff, buy all the top - all you then refund. And finally... then say: Well, you can continue? Once there is relationship, but there is no income - so do not propose to have a relationship? So it needs to be corrected. And improve your income. And return everything you spent double, triple and wesatern.
If you're going to sell one to buy another, then it is more important to you than what you sell. It's called priority. If your salary is enough either to buy games or to buy games you choose, to buy food or play. And if you choose games instead of food - that's your problem, not someone else's, since you yourself decided where to spend the money.
I'm not going to communicate with you, because in your words except selfish and hypocritical drivel nothing more. My last word: if you don't have enough money for games, or someone else they do not have enough money or not enough brains - don't buy the game. Just. Not. Buy. But set prices available for rogue - no one will. Go and figure it out first with the unemployment and homeless.

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Garrus-1994 22.07.20

Of course,the liberals in the subject. I now want to own s/n 1 billion just for what I am. Don't want to work, want their Empire, slaves and whores. I just ahrinet what notable person. Why to me do not listen? What? Because some freedom ends at the freedom of others. Well, e-my. (This is all sarcasm, if someone does not quite get).
And how much you liberals on a game site? And most importantly why this attempt to convince the contingent of the site, which by default is directed to the discussion of gaming topics in liberal values, and that the state and the company and everything must consider the opinion of one person? Especially if he's a nobody. What is the gaming site? It is not clear. Whether self-affirmation via the Internet, whether for fun, or because it is simply stupid. And maybe all together)

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Tiger Goose 22.07.20

Author, why did you bring this up? Still, these problems don't concern you. You said it yourself that your whole life passed less than ten games, and all games released after Far Cry 3, I think flujograma. And where do you find time for games when you spend all day busy writing just such Vladovostok.

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GeRR_Praetorian 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
I wonder why this nonsense we're not tormenting and torturing you???))))))) And who said that you need to communicate to buy 4k monitors????? Or is it just your failed example? You would on a normal cited any situation. Still this is a gaming site..

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Tiger Goose 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
In the beginning of the topic I write about games.
Mayamenstate wrote:
Let's not quibble over how it's called Denuvo or the like, to label.
Mayamenstate wrote:
And why are the games released on their terms, not mine?
And then write about other entertainment.
Mayamenstate wrote:
You have done so, to communicate with you through games, movies, music videos, screen savers and the like.
You define how-ever. People see what is written in the header about the games and begin to discuss this question, and you're starting to RUB off topic.

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Nevoeiro 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Spolarium Metal Edge recently conducted an interview with the leader of the band MOTORHEAD, Lemmy Kilmister. Driven to your attention a few passages that are of greatest interest, Lemmy spoke about his vision of modern rock, as well as the attitude towards downloading music through the Internet.

Metal Edge: could You say a few words about the processes characteristic of the modern music industry - downloading music on the Internet and distributing songs illegally ways?

Lemmy: do you want to say that the modern music industry is killing itself, isn't it? It has already begun.. x knows when, but the record companies, as well as those who wring Oh... but high price for the drives continued to release albums and sell them at exorbitant prices - they were deep.. be the ordinary people who often instead of having to buy a new shirt, went to the musical store and bought a new CD of your favorite band. This m...Kam was deeply spit that to buy a license disk, not everyone can afford. But now everything was turned on its head, and companies began to rattle: how so? we manufacture high quality products, and someone just takes it and distributes it without paying us a penny! I think that these m...Cove ten years generally will not work, all the songs will be online. And, frankly, I am glad.

Metal Edge: have You ever worried about the fact that often the DVD records a live concert of a particular group, or old disks that come with a few bonus tracks, it becomes much more popular than the new albums recorded in the Studio?

Lemmy: yeah, it is pretty annoying. I saw so many cheap compilations from other groups - is now used so many idiotic techniques to increase the popularity of the drive - it's hard to enumerate, for example, add bonus tracks and sell the album for twice the price. And all this I do not recognize. For example, I think the album Kiss of Death was not supposed to be R. A. M. O. N. E. S. (the CD was released in 2006 with the help of Sanctuary), I opposed it, argued, cursed... and Then, like, the Manager agreed with me, we shook hands, I left fully confident that the new album would not be all these der...o units that are made for big sales. However, then I take the disc in your hands... and what do I see? they no... not changed, and you didn't tell me about it... You will know everything is already post-factum, when the disc goes on sale, and, of course, the Manager threw up his hands and said, Oh, it's too late to change anything. In this situation, I almost snapped his neck. The phrase I hate most in the world because they have heard it so often in my life.

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Tiger Goose 22.07.20

Mayamenstate wrote:
Tell me, how's the sex with Citra
Pfft... So fast you're still not merged. Fell ill, or what?

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SanKa Games 22.07.20

Mayamenstate wrote: anyway, that to demand payment of the game without giving the game itself.
And, well, then you're all clear once you do not read SPS man. But it clearly States that the game itself you don't buy - you rent. As well as offices, apartments, hotel room. And clicking on the check you agreed to this, and now arise here.
Mayamenstate wrote:
I'm talking about the fact that my rules are much better than the rules adopted in the society
Well, laugh! I wonder whose interests they support? You should have been understanding of the meaning of life. Mainstreme, but other people do not interfere.

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Sidorovich12 22.07.20

Stiff Of Macivor
Why are YOU guy Picabia hurt? :))

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ImKabachok 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Actually, it's not you say: let's talk, you decide to start to communicate. You are free not to communicate at all. Because of the game, gas, electricity, communications and SERVICES are called. You have to offer, and you decide to use them or not. So constituted all life.
- A man is essentially an animal in the woods. You can absolutely in any day to run away from home and live by their rules and conditions until you meet someone stronger than you, because he has his own terms and on your he spit. We live in a society where everyone finds its place and brings some benefit of different nature. Someone has been in the entertainment market. They invest in your projects effort, time and money. Therefore the same and try to protect them in every way.
--In our time, capitalism is driven by market and money. To earn you need to maintain the supply and demand. Therefore, buyers are strongly encourage to buy new things, replace old sorts of advertising moves, rage, manipulation, psyche and public opinion. Of course game developers have an agreement with the creators of the soft and hard to stimulate purchases.
--But you should always understand that the developers do not depend on YOU-SWEET, and from all the buyers together, including YOU. Its decision to buy-not to buy you put your imperceptible contribution to the development of the entire gaming industry. If people like you will be enough, then you will be considered.
- You can at any time to refuse projects AAA-class, standing at the peak of development and gaming trends. You can play old games that pulls your computer (among them just shitloads of awesome toys, one has only to drip), also you can just play for the minimum salary, as I do. In addition, you can move on to INDIE games, not very demanding on hardware, and buy them on GOG without any protection.
- So you're always free to simply leave the market of computer games and do what you can afford.
--You know... nobody forces one to play, you yourself want to. And for this you need to invest, without this in any way. With the same analogy I'll give examples. Want to ride a cool car - buy it. Seriously, there's attachments will be more abruptly than with games. In addition to regular refueling you will have concerns with the repair and replacement of parts. To play airsoft Eugene to purchase a minimum of simple equipment. While the more powerful and more expensive guns, the easier and more comfortable you will be in a battle. This is a direct a direct analogy with iron for games.
--But there are budget options. You can go to computer club and spend there less money and play the allotted time. Also, now there are Internet services (the SERVICES), where you can play any game via the Internet. Ie on my old bucket of an Internet are you going to rent power powerful top-end computer via the Internet. For this also you have to pay. And how? In addition to the removal of the premises under this iron, in addition to repair computers, in addition to fees for the electricity and h-p employees, the owner of the service wants to receive and afford some profit. By analogy, not having your car, you can take her to the rental or use taxis, it's much more affordable. In the same airsoft have the opportunity to rent equipment. So the market is quite loyal to those who can not afford expensive purchases.
--End SCMA of any service consists of the demand of the consumers. If no one buys some sort of game, it reduces the price if you wish for it to be snapped up like hotcakes, the price can raise. So it was with the discs, even though the incentive is a noticeable tendency of gradual raising of prices. And there is nothing wrong with this market. You are free to buy and free to buy.
---Now a little fundamental. In fact you have in this world is practically nothing personal your not. Even if you have land, you're paying tax. You will not pay - will be taken away. It's not your land, you took it out. In this land you built a house, well done. Can dig a well. Don't want to? Pay according to the tariffs of the supplier of hot and cold water to your house let her down (for your money) and you will provide water while you are paying every month. Don't want to? Can put the heater... AHHH, we have no electricity... well, etc.
---Our whole life is closely interwoven with society and other people. We live according to the laws and conditions of society, but we do affect them. If you really want to change something YOURSELF, then you should do community service, to create movement, to find like-minded people and to succeed. Then with YOUR opinion (expressed in the opinion of the GROUP) will be considered if they do not contradict someone else's direct interests.
---And that's what you want? You want the game sold without the protection of 300 rubles, and ceased to require a more powerful iron? Think about where it will lead. If they are without protection, they will be easier to pirate, and the profits of developers will be reduced. Coupled with decreasing prices, this will lead to the fact that a huge number of campaigns will not be able to go into a plus profit, which means they will leave the industry. Then there will remain only the most hard-nosed, the best, but we will get one good game every year or two.
---In actual fact all that above is already there... just forget about big budget games, go into the lower of INDIE GAMES. And then you'll see the consequences of the introduction of all these.
---About the constant development of iron agree, I do not like it, but it is the engine of progress of computers and their capacities. Besides the constant growth of productivity allows to create more sophisticated, complex, beautiful game. If we stay on the same generation of processors, then the game will cease to evolve. Yes, will be developed strongly to get out at existing facilities, but someday all their tricks will end.
--That's life. Instead of whining and hurt, it is better to accept the rules of our society, learn them and start to influence them by modifying according to your preferences. If you're persistent enough and lucky, you'll be able to change market trends. The website GOG selling games without protection has changed a part of this world for the better for the consumer. So that you can, if you work and not be lazy.

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ImKabachok 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
I'm not talking about his theory and the principles of market operation services.
1)If you have the money, but you don't want to have a relationship that will make you will remain without money. Conversely, if you have no money, but you want to have a relationship that will make it so that you the money will appear.
------------Here do not understand, like paranoia. If you do not want to have a relationship, then nothing, but there you have money does not take, unless of course you're not overstepping mafia =) also don't understand who will give you money if you don't have them??? Bring some life example, and I can't tune in your idea.
2)And how people argue? Based on the reverse. If a person has money, then he want to have a relationship. If the person has no money, so I do not want him to have a relationship. But it may not be so. This may be a setup.
---Well, Yes, logical thinking. But I don't know about the bases. It turns out, may be that person has money, it does not want to have a relationship, but pretend what you want??? 0_o Why??? In what sense are you using the word RELATIONSHIP? If you're talking about market relations, there bases are, but it is bad for the image, therefore, dear office do not do so.
2)I will Tell you a secret that may or may not do without the society of man, as man without society, depends on his nationality/race is relative to this society. If a person of another nationality/race, rather than society, he can do without society, and society without it, indefinitely.
----Complement. People can do without society, many of those who goes away from civilization. Also the society can afford to lose individuals exactly until, yet will not affect their scarcity. Now a lot of people, many unemployed, many below the poverty line. Some people even dare to call them pests. The society quite worried about their loss, sad as it may sound.
3)Who told you so says: I Want to get the service, pay for it. No money - go enjoy yourself? Asians, Europeans. Not Russian after all. Do you think their answer, or what? No, of course. And you look like a fool this setup on their throw with their start so to speak.
---Here I do not understand, what is the significance of nationality in the market? Basic Economics one for all peoples since ancient times. Remember though Rome, at least the Byzantine Empire, though the Rus. There are product is the price. You can negotiate, bargain (even now in a personal conversation with the support to get a discount). Of course, there may be some national features, but people are quite normally traded among themselves, and also traded on the same Silk road.
4)Why did they hold? Because they are not Russian - Asians, Europeans. Would be Russian - would not stand and would have given the money, that you bought, if so it should be - kind of system, or just be given for free.
---Here I do not understand. Again, something about the nation... some kind of misplaced patriotism. Here about free do not understand. Yeah, it can be distributed free of charge part of the goods, like keys, to see these people try and advise others. It's kind of a publicity stunt, advertising, attracting the interest of riders. But nobody is going to give anything to anyone for free without the desire to ultimately benefit. Therefore, your words about free results I perceive as a certain particularity, not generality. Therefore, do not attach importance to them.
5)In your opinion, after all, if someone wants to give for free, then nobody has the right to deny it to him. Right?
----Right, but doing so out of selfish intent. You can give one free copy, but 10 others will sell. No shopkeeper will not for giving away all your goods, otherwise you fail.

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BioCommandos 22.07.20

And someone is not too lazy to write a wall of text somewhere.

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Bad_Viper 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
Where are you from game problems ?

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Wing42 22.07.20

Mayamenstate wrote:
And why are the games released on their terms, not mine?
In life, little is done on your terms, and you cry only for igrulek, damn melancholic.

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Delphis 22.07.20

Mayamenstate
really strange that you personally were not consulted before the creation of the game. Now it's your own business so you should submit to the court of human rights and to defend their rights

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Garrus-1994 22.07.20

Mayamenstate wrote:
You mean me?
And about all those who are of the same opinion.
BioCommandos wrote:
And someone is not too lazy to write a wall of text somewhere.
Apparently a lot of time,too.

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Vasek Vasekk 22.07.20

In fact - to pay the developers of games have NVIDIA and AMD from the sale of cards.
I buy pricey 1070 and buy the game 2-3 since They are there acually.
The single games should be free I think.And just for the cartoon option for payment to pay.
But if players stop buying video card, then play them on*** nobody surrendered - for it will not even start.

Think I buy a piece of PCB, which in 2 years will be a piece of plywood smoked and I buy games digital - in fact the air.
Here no one will buy a new graphics card - all released game was*** useless.Just an empty shop on a building or consoles.And developed themselves will be giving away games for free.But people say and** your game if I have 2 fps.
Imagine that 90% of the players sitting on the Dryer 2 bought Mafia 3.She did not go.All done return - the developer just OPE'd.And they would be released an hour patch with support for SSE 1.0 and the latest Pentium 2.