PVP LADDER (Diablo 2)
1. First of all who wants to participate writes in PM on the forum his accounts with pvp characters that he is going to get fair pvp, indicating their buildup. Approx.: *akk1; nickname; bone necromancer (the table will be a corresponding reduction bnec).
2. After such registration, these players have the data will fall in the ladder list in the following form:
3. Duels are Softcore Expansion.
4. All participants will have zero wr,% against the other builds in the ladder until he can play a duel with them.
5. Index wr,% specific duel will be based on the number of unique meetings. This means, if player 1 played against player 2 build at least 1000 times, but it is not played against the same builds in the ladder as the player 2, the resulting wr,% this duel will be averaged with the others have not played to avoid calculating the rating, only one frags. Thus, a particular duel in equal measure will affect the calculation of wr,%.
6. To play runes or other in-game values — driven players. To publish data of players in the leaderboard need mutual consent of both parties before the duel and the inclusion of the moderator fair pvp. This is in order to rule out fan duel from games on rating.
7. In order to avoid the so-called vifromline on nubah, that is, when one player intentionally gives in to others, it is proposed to introduce the lower threshold total win rate (twr,%), below which if the first is to get (less than 2% for example), then duel with him the other members of the ladder will just be deducted and not to influence their wr% and such a player will remain statistics of played duels. The lower threshold of the twr is set by the moderator of the ladder.
8. All data of played duels sent by the moderator, fair moderator of the pvp ladder, and in turn, the moderator of the ladder publishes it.
v.1.2:
9. Because non-ladder characters to intersect with the ladder can't in some games and for some players, time consuming and there is no desire to gather again the characters for pvp, there is a proposal to conduct parallel 2 League: landernau and non-ladder. If reset PvM-the ladder, the ladder characters from League just moved to non-ledgernew taking into account all dialed frags, but counted afresh indicators wr%, taking into account the existing players accounts in a non-ladder League.
10. Expressed the idea of automation of conducting very difficult and costly to implement, and the result of the neglect by the administration intervention in the subject of this topic, her need only the attraction of the moderators fair games.
Add v.1.3
This will certainly be useful to know players interested in how this will work in General, including, and materiel to this idea. Let us examine some of the controversial issues:
11. Mirrorwriting
For example, in the ladder created 4 players who have coldsore (csor) with nicknames in the table below. The first number is the number of won duels against the player in the column, the second - total number of played duels against him.
Buildup one, respectively, as it will be considered, you ask? Very simply, it will be calculated taking into account the arithmetic mean, for example, we count on the wr coldsore against coldsores player cold_one:
wr% cold_one (vs csor) = ((5/11)+(7/21)+(4/7))/3*100% = 45,31%
Can see that the number of duels is not the deciding factor in counting, play at least 1000 times against one player of the same build will not give special advantages. Therefore, to set the overall rating, as mentioned, you need to play a lot of different duels.
12. Inactivity/deliberate draining of the rating
Suppose again that the player cold_four zaregalsya to the ladder, but didn't play any duel. The accumulation of all data of played duels all players zeros that player will be considered, and, therefore, slightly reduce the overall ratings of the other players. But due to the fact that the ladder will be updated periodically, this player will not be removed from the ladder, and just be paused, that is, in the future nick will be grayed out, i.e. marked as inactive and zeros on the calculation of rating other players temporarily will not affect. The player can remedy this situation, playing a duel against every other player in the ladder and in the future he will be able to fully participate in the rating.
Let us examine the situation where a player deliberately gives in to others, to increase the rating of the others. In this case, if it will be observed, given the fact that it will have too low rating (close to zero), it will also be paused, but a different color. The player can remedy this situation, but he will need to play a greater number of duels to get a plus. As you can see, doing this the player will be very inconsistent if he pleases again to climb the stairs of the ladder your character (this will be difficult).
13. Counting the total (TWR%) winrate
This figure is based on previous winrate xx,xx% against every build and will also be averaged. TWR% will be equal to the sum of all wr% (the table is xx,xx%) divided by the number of different delay, which will determine the players that fill the ladder. If you don't count the mirror of the duel, then the denominator is subtracted 1 when calculating.
14. The solution to the problem with a passive game
Then either leave as is, either of the following:
Solarpoolheater duel remains a classic - 5 minutes on 1 fighting game. No arrestov and other locations to replay. If a duel lasts more than 5 minutes, it can peregrevaetsya 1 time in the same location and if it is not known the result of the duel, then pasewada side on the decision of the moderator shall count or loss or such a duel will simply not be taken into account. Thus, both parties will be interested in timing the end of the duel.
This already exists somewhere?
PS: just why the tournament is not important if you get bored?
greenstyle
Well, if it's not on any D2 servers..The MB because you can call someone I love and say something like let me tibe pool and I payraise 10 times in pvp.. on dedicated pvp servers is real to be sold(OMG, so hardly anyone will do it), the armor that ACAR for sale , and everything is easier, there are items that have value) to Do what is the threshold of the entrance...What? You nonam homeless no Enigma paschel nafig? Not fair somehow.. XS shorter. If it's in there somewhere, I even do not imagine what it looks like.
I only but need to think things through and watch this( who will do it?
and must be brought by the administration to monitor the honesty of it.d.)
yamas
Selection, of course, do not left some users, sold for pool and pushnikov. Carry rollers only when modernizing and only in games fair pvp. Not that all difficult.
greenstyle
A similar idea was raised not so long ago. Agreed on the fact that admin will not do this (first, it zaignoril offer, and second, he's much more interesting to fly in low pvp, lose, and then say that he was not playing on the account, and just so), and was announced an alternative proposal - statistic someone from responsible users (such as Modera fair pvp). But none of this do not, because PG - PVM server.
avtor, ya vot ne poimu, ti hochesh chto delal bi tvoyu ideyu kto-to drugoi i ishesh dlya etogo soobshnikov ili chto?
as in DotA
odno eto uje portit vsu ideyu
yamas
Well, if it's not on any D2-servo
natural etogo na netu d2 servere inache bi avtor ne predlagal, chto za glupii issue
rech kak raz o tom chto bi vvesti
greenstyle
While you don't do it, nothing will happen. Even if you do, not the fact that will.
Torum.
well, I was there with a friend running around pvp at modernizing, I succumbed (no matter what I motivated, or just asked) and that's me 100/100 victories. (Runes we passed the OFC, was returned the winner, the current is then divided back (hmm, MB is necessary that modernization is a percentage left?=) ) Why is my sidekick has no right to participate in this ladder-team fights? If I'm so rich even Yeni tortured him and so on.
In General it's all utter nonsense to do this, but if someone is need be, he will find a way around this system.
You so soon to strip the pvp exp will agree, won high-level character - experience flooded, for minor respectively and not significantly, increased, no. Lost - kindly cut a couple of Milen.
Here it is a global fight, instead of Baal fly on paladins.
I have looked at that.
greenstyle
There is an easier way of dealing with whiners - ignore and OFC not be conducted in their attempts to undermine you extracted in pvp victory. After merged under the runes when modernizing pvp begin to drive, you play for fun, to demand do-overs, etc Firnstahl in General.
yamas
Everything is possible. But PG - PVM server, and skewed towards normal pvp will not be here.
PS FERC OFC'll write some kind of nonsense, I will not answer.
Torum.
Well, judging by the reaction of a certain number of comrades, pvp has nothing to lose. And so the new jet. :D
So, an example. I mean that must be counted victories, but the loss should be reflected.
So for a Pool as described, would not yield.
Torum.
On pvp server it's nothing, skill is not the cliff. Offe just more people, the tough guys are more common(it is possible that they cheat), but newbies and accordingly also greater. In General, in my opinion, pvp on ng is not worse than any pvp on other sites. what I've seen of pvp on the server where Jahi every day falling, and the unique armor-every minute... it would Seem that there is not why to farm that there is some pvp nerds, but no, it turned out that nube that PG to them as the moon.
Of course, my opinion may not be expert and be a hundred percent true, so I did not insist, and no one to convince will not.
The author of the idea, I think, is not realizable. Yes, and it amazes me your wish, make. Want do it yourself, write Alero supposedly give moderku want to do so-and-so, I will implement so-and-so. Then you respect and honor. unless you really want to do something, nothing can wait, nothing is. And the very idea of cheese, think how to avoid cheating in your pvp ladder, for showare possible to wind ratings are even amasu clear AZAZA.
there are problems with counting, though serious
1) dataspaces not, in DotA the one account, every account of the sea, everything constantly shifts and so forth
2) in DotA anyway games go from scratch, here the characters wear all season
3) moder go to play on runes, under the l-ha, under the Liv with the servo, under the fan. Which of these games you'd consider? All? How, then fan duel?
4) what banal vipermovies ladder? With such effects as ladder duel only antichnymi builds against the victims? With otkatnymi to fight against a superior enemy?
some of this ladder makes sense to keep only the results table pvp tournaments at the rate of a rumble, where everyone comes with their strongest spell is going to win, and is forced to fight with all opponents
and OFC, any member of the community will be able to offer a homegrown algorithm of rating calculation on these tables, and say that he's better than yours, toast, and MB he will be right. To say that your calculus is better only for the reason that you moder pvp you know how it is called. Webshaman, the agreement will come not only all.
greenstyle
1-3 so, Yes, you can understand
but that's about 4
That is, if one player somehow build character wins the build of the second player, and the second most wins with the same build at first in the same duel, then more wr will be the second, respectively.
It would be possible you know where. Here, no one will collect anticar so you can calibrate the result of the duel. Will have to accept the impossibility of such a calibration with respect even to the top of your ladder. So — alas, only tablici. Everything else will be shamelessly vipermovies psychopaths, whose 1st place in the ladder will be life-determining. Others will look at this madness and pass. As with the ladder on expert.
In short, as soon as you establish a separate go under the ladder will appear as the types that one go, not go, and with the third in the negative style I invite you to a duel necro against my EU sorce, druid vs ASI.... And your main task — to ladder reflects the level of skill — will sefalana.
greenstyle
To exclude the possibility of vifromline ladder with all sorts of autism, you can enter landernau League, like what you described above about the forum ACC. In the Charter of the League explicitly forbid to shy away from duels with antichrome. The League may not ro PLI PTO mode to form the likeness of the tournament tablici with kakimito Matan, adding her suppression of ancient results. First some insights about places to only do a full (or Mattanah reasonable sufficiency) formed tablice.
Anyway, casual part in the leaderboard all novamov support will not work.
Although, for novamov you can enter demo ladder, where they can find out whose shako cooler and to evade someone kittens their graceville.
then we derive the essence:
1. pre-registration in the League Ladder (Dueling League)
2. poklonenie from duels to protect places
greenstyle
and lines of ladder can be updated regularly by moderators
Will the moderators be doing this?
The conclusion, who told you repeatedly: you want something - do it.
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