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annortheone 26.07.20 11:12 pm

PVP LADDER (Diablo 2)


1. First of all who wants to participate writes in PM on the forum his accounts with pvp characters that he is going to get fair pvp, indicating their buildup. Approx.: *akk1; nickname; bone necromancer (the table will be a corresponding reduction bnec).

2. After such registration, these players have the data will fall in the ladder list in the following form:


3. Duels are Softcore Expansion.

4. All participants will have zero wr,% against the other builds in the ladder until he can play a duel with them.

5. Index wr,% specific duel will be based on the number of unique meetings. This means, if player 1 played against player 2 build at least 1000 times, but it is not played against the same builds in the ladder as the player 2, the resulting wr,% this duel will be averaged with the others have not played to avoid calculating the rating, only one frags. Thus, a particular duel in equal measure will affect the calculation of wr,%.

6. To play runes or other in-game values — driven players. To publish data of players in the leaderboard need mutual consent of both parties before the duel and the inclusion of the moderator fair pvp. This is in order to rule out fan duel from games on rating.

7. In order to avoid the so-called vifromline on nubah, that is, when one player intentionally gives in to others, it is proposed to introduce the lower threshold total win rate (twr,%), below which if the first is to get (less than 2% for example), then duel with him the other members of the ladder will just be deducted and not to influence their wr% and such a player will remain statistics of played duels. The lower threshold of the twr is set by the moderator of the ladder.

8. All data of played duels sent by the moderator, fair moderator of the pvp ladder, and in turn, the moderator of the ladder publishes it.

v.1.2:

9. Because non-ladder characters to intersect with the ladder can't in some games and for some players, time consuming and there is no desire to gather again the characters for pvp, there is a proposal to conduct parallel 2 League: landernau and non-ladder. If reset PvM-the ladder, the ladder characters from League just moved to non-ledgernew taking into account all dialed frags, but counted afresh indicators wr%, taking into account the existing players accounts in a non-ladder League.

10. Expressed the idea of automation of conducting very difficult and costly to implement, and the result of the neglect by the administration intervention in the subject of this topic, her need only the attraction of the moderators fair games.

Add v.1.3
This will certainly be useful to know players interested in how this will work in General, including, and materiel to this idea. Let us examine some of the controversial issues:

11. Mirrorwriting
For example, in the ladder created 4 players who have coldsore (csor) with nicknames in the table below. The first number is the number of won duels against the player in the column, the second - total number of played duels against him.

Buildup one, respectively, as it will be considered, you ask? Very simply, it will be calculated taking into account the arithmetic mean, for example, we count on the wr coldsore against coldsores player cold_one:

wr% cold_one (vs csor) = ((5/11)+(7/21)+(4/7))/3*100% = 45,31%
Can see that the number of duels is not the deciding factor in counting, play at least 1000 times against one player of the same build will not give special advantages. Therefore, to set the overall rating, as mentioned, you need to play a lot of different duels.

12. Inactivity/deliberate draining of the rating
Suppose again that the player cold_four zaregalsya to the ladder, but didn't play any duel. The accumulation of all data of played duels all players zeros that player will be considered, and, therefore, slightly reduce the overall ratings of the other players. But due to the fact that the ladder will be updated periodically, this player will not be removed from the ladder, and just be paused, that is, in the future nick will be grayed out, i.e. marked as inactive and zeros on the calculation of rating other players temporarily will not affect. The player can remedy this situation, playing a duel against every other player in the ladder and in the future he will be able to fully participate in the rating.
Let us examine the situation where a player deliberately gives in to others, to increase the rating of the others. In this case, if it will be observed, given the fact that it will have too low rating (close to zero), it will also be paused, but a different color. The player can remedy this situation, but he will need to play a greater number of duels to get a plus. As you can see, doing this the player will be very inconsistent if he pleases again to climb the stairs of the ladder your character (this will be difficult).

13. Counting the total (TWR%) winrate
This figure is based on previous winrate xx,xx% against every build and will also be averaged. TWR% will be equal to the sum of all wr% (the table is xx,xx%) divided by the number of different delay, which will determine the players that fill the ladder. If you don't count the mirror of the duel, then the denominator is subtracted 1 when calculating.

14. The solution to the problem with a passive game
Then either leave as is, either of the following:
Solarpoolheater duel remains a classic - 5 minutes on 1 fighting game. No arrestov and other locations to replay. If a duel lasts more than 5 minutes, it can peregrevaetsya 1 time in the same location and if it is not known the result of the duel, then pasewada side on the decision of the moderator shall count or loss or such a duel will simply not be taken into account. Thus, both parties will be interested in timing the end of the duel.
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yamas 19.11.20

And why the prize lo, especially not collected from the participants? If "I spend the whole day on the tournament and have nothing", it is the fan's odds in the first place, not an alternative to wigs. It would be better for the participants to throw at least a pool for the fact that someone started organizing this tournament.

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ya_RAQ 19.11.20

yamas
if che/w me pool for organizing such a god himself tells to give))

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bd_sm[TDPG] 19.11.20

I support cancer and I will stand in solidarity.

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firkax 19.11.20

T-Fox
Nubasiki come, they are morally humbled in the game,"chat"forum, can frighten, telling that to become a Pvp master, you need to start Persian on n number of jakhov; newcomers leave
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I wrote the same thing recently on the forum.
and in my opinion, the most effective way to fix is to get rid of these self-appointed "aces" who behave like this
for example, blocking their access to hiruns without which most of them are afraid to get out of the paddock

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Obsessed 19.11.20

firkax, how to comb them? :-) Aipi?

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firkax 19.11.20

I gave an example of what needs to be done to make them come up and eliminate
And in general - on behavior

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Obsessed 19.11.20

I think other "judges" on the pg are such demeanors of behavior that they should be eliminated. ;-)

It's about the aces. in d2 there were always brows, ready to tremble furiously for the sake of victory (in one or another sphere). in my opinion, these goats are unrealistic to stop or separate from the mass of lambs. or they just start pretending to be sheep (mb is also the result).
Or maybe we should formulate a different way: "for tossing fingers in the game PvP ban acca with a stret"? :D
Spoilers are all like, "- Gracious sire, forgive my embarrassment for hitting you with a hammer! I'm very ashamed! Here, your gold. please generously forgive me!" :D

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bd_sm[TDPG] 19.11.20

I was advised to recruit aggressive schoolchildren in the dota, luring them into the diablo with promises to cut a review about them. This, too, would have caused a rush of fighting blood on the pvp. At least on a satisfactory pc nonmal.

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T-Fox 19.11.20

Obsessed
Vot tebe yarkii primer.
Ny proba je bat'ka? - bat'ka. Komy-to on mewaet, obijaet, novi4kov pygaet? - net. Vse norm k nemy otnosyatsa?- ny esli ne y4itivat' xixy, a mi ego nikogda ne y4itivaem, to vse.

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ZRDn 19.11.20

firkax
Everywhere there are such people who just to read someone, and d2 is no exception, and if someone immediately runs to the mama's tit because of the fact that he was called a nob, I xz how he still survived in our cruel world ...

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bd_sm[TDPG] 19.11.20

ZRDn
It should be taken into account that the firk does not debate, and presses its line and troll. In the coffin he saw the state pvp on the pg.

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ZRDn 19.11.20

bd_sm[TDPG]
And yes, exactly, almost forgot))

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Torum. 19.11.20

T-Fox
In my opinion, the human factor does not affect the influx of Pvpshniks (I once also played pvm, then tried to play pvp, despite the presence at that time pathetic and inadequate frames, which tried to somehow assert themselves at the expense of inexperienced players, having well-dressed charms), how much the server policy. There is no significant place for a normal pvp in this very policy, as practice shows. In all the time that I've been here (and tried to promote some ideas for improving the pvp/fair pvp), there has been a complete disregard on the part of the administration.
To hold pvp tournaments - the prerogative of the moders Fair (Open may continue to cook in his cauldron, if there is someone other than firka at all), in my opinion. Or representatives of the Pvp community (is there?). At the moment I am not going to organize the fair pvp tournaments, if only because I don't play d2 and I don't see the point in playing.
The correct thought on how to stimulate the fufels to sharpen hands, threw bd_sm.TDPG. We need to make a mass pc. In pvp games, in hbr and other openes. Toleraters will be scurring in the snuthered tightly games, and for normal boys who do not want to put up with such a situation, it can be a good incentive, push to read useful information, to the correct selection of smoot, competent pumping of enchantments, training pvp and honing skills. This is in theory, of course, a very optimistic theory. In fact, I probably would have more to endure.
And in principle, the problem lies in the pvm component to a greater extent. If, for example, firk and some friends of admin can draw a schmot or runes, then ordinary flames, to somehow dress, you need a lot of wigs to hold or throw someone, a good smoot a lot does not happen, and with this constant wig move - no longer becomes. So, in my opinion, the time of a decent pvp has flown by and waiting for something good in this sphere in the future, I think, is pointless.

bd_sm[TDPG]
Why don't you drag them here. It would be cool to pass them from the dota to some other game.

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Torum. 19.11.20

And to the post T-Fox about attempts to humiliate newcomers-pvpshniks on the part of more experienced players it is worth adding that such behavior is typical for non-adequates. An adequate person will never fester/insult someone who plays worse, and I do not recall such behavior on the part of adequate players. Another thing, if the newcomer has too many ambitions and punts is not on the case, as in the same dober, then such off should be put in place by all means (in an honest duel it is easy to do, checked), including in the chat/on the forum / bake, etc., and it is quite normal.

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ZRDn 19.11.20

In short, it's not that someone smacks, throws, bakes, etc. but that the old players lose interest and they leave, and new players (usually schoolchildren) do not go to d2 because the game is outdated or go but not for long, because they have a pc for 50kq against the background of all sorts of witches and gtashaks, d2 for them looking like a witch. , in general, play a month and go to chop in a new gta. In short, everything is sad...

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bd_sm[TDPG] 19.11.20

ZRDn
yes, I would have gone into something like this if there was such freedom of action and control/dynamics of the pvp
The only adequate toy with a likeness of fresh air is Day
the rest is either a contra-style or an arcade without micro and dynamics
graphone absolutely does not save

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kot-stargazer 19.11.20

I've been on the back of the snub, and I'm not going to make any of it, I'm going to have a little of a little, And just tired of the same swing, jerk and so on. But nothing so.Xsedusdjad played, but merged :)) says a very smart game, he does not reach intelligence, Tanaka said that stupid :)))))Hz I still like, I understand now people who change their way to the forum and ask: YOU still play IT????

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bd_sm[TDPG] 19.11.20

kot-stargazer
I understand people too, but I don't support
I didn't like the graphics
Well, and that banal copies of the d2
nothing to copy, fantasy no shole

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ZRDn 19.11.20

kot-stargazer
I also played In PoE two years ago, I didn't know why I gave up, I kind of liked everything))
bd_sm[TDPG]
Well, and that banal copies of the d2
nothing to copy, fantasy no shole
This game was created by two fans d1 and d2, but at some point they also abandoned it and decided to try to play something similar but in fact nothing worthwhile did not find, and decided to make their game similar to d2 and did not pass, as for me, turned out better than d3))

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kot-stargazer 19.11.20

bd_sm[TDPG]
I think of it as a continuation of d2, the same atmosphere, similar to Persians, for the graphics at all never bothered, but here like it as made, there are no cartoon animats and pink ponies as in d3.
Again, I'll like the comrade above. :)))Just a psychic of some kind, the thought reads, then he wanted to write it.