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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20 06:08 am

Small upgrade

Hello. Such a situation is that there is a computer with the following parameters Athlon x4 640, Radeon hd 5670 512mb, 4gb ram, and a power supply like 450, or. 550.
I will need to spend about half a year on it, and I would like to play something) completely upgrade, there is no way to spend money now. And here's the question: if I just change the video card, for some Bu, costing 50-60 dollars, (GeForce gt 640, Radeon 6670), can I play the latest games, and games of 15.14 years, at least at low ones, medium settings, hd resolution, but no lags, at least 30 - 40 FPS?
Or the processor will not pull everything smoothly, and there is no point in changing the video card?
Now, for example, dying light, at minimum settings, in hd resolution, is played with brakes. I think about 20 - 26 fps.
Thank you
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SPR1GGAN 23.12.20

Aelix86
he chases from 3 to 3.6, which will give practically nothing in games

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

As I understand it, vidyuha with 2 GB is beyond the budget.
Probably the best choice, Radeon 7770. There is an analogue from Geforce gtx650, it is a little more expensive.
BP Chinese noname is most likely. I will throw off the photo of the sticker later. If the Chinese wrote that 460w, is there a chance that it will pull the 7770 Radeon?)

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Sanchez ramirez 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
If the Chinese wrote that 460w
That means that at 12V it will give out 200 watts at best, so this garbage may not be enough for radik.

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Len4ik00N 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
If the Chinese wrote that 460w, is it likely that it will pull the 7770 Radeon?)
It all depends on the power output on the 12-volt line. This information is located on a sticker on the power supply. Even without it, I can say that your power supply unit should pull out 7770, because it is only 40 watts more "gluttonous" than the one you have (if you compare the reference cards), but still it's better to check if you can also find out if you can overclock percent ..

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Len4ik00N
Thank you. If the 7770 is a little more voracious than mine, I think it will pull the PSU.
I'll take a picture of the bp, I'll post it here, And as I understand it, 5870 is much more voracious? and what do you think about 650gtx? Better than 7770? worse?
If the power supply unit does not draw the card, will it just burn out?)

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hrdCore 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
If the power supply unit does not draw the card, will it just burn out?
It depends on what PSU. A normal PSU will have protection.

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Len4ik00N 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
5870 draws almost 100 W more than 7770 and requires a minimum 500 W PSU. A normal 460 W block could easily pull such a card, but it's better not to even try it on a Chinese "No name" block.
The gtx650 is slightly weaker than the 7770 and consumes a little less power, but this is when comparing the reference samples, and there are still many options with factory overclocking, which complicates the choice a little, so it is better to compare specific video cards before buying.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Len4ik00N
You mean that the same 7770 from different manufacturers can be more powerful or weaker?
I do not think that I will have a special choice) I will look for a boo in my city, what will be - and I will take it.
Thank you all for your help, I didn’t expect so many people to respond. When (if) I buy a 7770, I'll sign off on how the system behaves in games)
oh well, I still have some incomprehensible hard drive. Tell me, what is the normal speed for Sata 2? for games of course? And which program is better to measure?
And then I measured some, but I got incomprehensible data for me)))

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Len4ik00N 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
Do you mean that from different manufacturers the same 7770 can be more powerful or weaker?
In general, I meant that factory overclocking can affect the performance ratio between the gtx 650 and 7770, but your statement is also correct. At the expense of the "rich" choice of video cards: if suddenly in your city there is no 7770 on sale or the price for it exceeds the budget, then you can consider another GTX 550TI. In terms of performance, it is almost the same as the 650, and the price for it is usually noticeably lower (due to its age).
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
I still have some kind of incomprehensible hard drive. Tell me, what is the normal speed for Sata 2? for games of course? And which program is better to measure?
There is an easier way that does not require special knowledge, skills or programs: enter the name of your railway in the search engine (you can find it in the "device manager" or on the disk itself), find its characteristics and look at the parameter "spindle rotation speed": 7200 rpm - suitable for installing OS, games and programs; 5400 - for file "trash" (multimedia, installation, etc.).

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

By the way, here is a sticker from my PSU. What do all these numbers mean?)
Spoiler

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Len4ik00N
Googled, like my drive even sata 3, and 7200 rpm. So everything is ok? it's just old, I thought maybe over time the hard drive is no longer so fast?)
I checked the program, the write and read speed is 59, 54mb / s is seq. I don't know what it is. Is this normal?

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Sanchez ramirez 23.12.20

Well, 264 watts, and considering that this is fierce China, it will be somewhere around 220, maybe. Almost guessed. Maybe it will, but it depends on how it is with stabilization. And with her, I feel, also tryndets. Well, there is not even such a block, what to do.

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

Sanchez Ramirez
How did you think that 264W? As I understand it, with such a power supply, you shouldn't even try to connect the 7770? or what?)

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SonyK_2 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
How did you calculate that 264W?
12 Volts * 22 Amperes = 264 W. But this is a rough estimate - as they wrote to you above:
... maybe it will ...
, but not a fact.
Your Radeon HD 5670 consumes about 61 W, HD 7770 consumes about 80 W and its recommended power supply unit is 450 W - taking into account that yours does not understand from whom, it can turn out end-to-end.
If you take the GTX 650, for example, it has a TDP of about 64 W - just 3 more than yours now. Alternatively, you can have a look at the GT 740: essentially the same GTX 650, but it consumes even less - 60 watts. For 650 and 740, a 400 W PSU is recommended.

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hrdCore 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote: By the
way, a sticker from my PSU. What do all these numbers mean?)
In addition to the above about the declared power on the + 12V line, the presence of -5V means that the power supply unit is ancient as the city of the mammoth, and in what state its capacitors are still questionable ..

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

I also looked at the hd7750, the card is weaker, but consumes 55 watts. If you say gtx650 consumes 64, then you can look towards this card. Thank you

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TwinFrozr 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
You've got a lot of nonsense here about the coolness of 5870 and about the fact that you can't drive percentages on box cooling. So all this is nonsense, because if you do not raise the voltage when overclocking the processor, then the box cooling will be enough for your head, my Athlon X4 is overclocked to 3500 MHz and under load on the box cooling it plows freely and does not overheat because I did not raise my spirits by a percentage during overclocking , practically any Athlon X4 runs up to 3500 MHz without raising the spine and works on boxed cooling without any problems. Vidyahu take 7750 it costs no more than $ 60 or 7770 no more than $ 70 all that is more than obviously snickering sellers, and 5870 is ancient hot trash since it is based on the ancient 40 nm process technology and due to overheating they often have a chip blade and vidyahu can Throw it out as warming up helps for a maximum of a couple of months. Take a Radeon vidyahu not lower than the seventh series 7750 - 7770 1 GB or 7850 2 GB (it is more expensive and costs about $ 100 but much steeper than the 5870 because it is based on 28 nm process technology, its performance is higher, power consumption is less there, it needs only one 6-pin connector , the drivers are better optimized, the new CGN architecture which is used by AMD to this day in the latest versions, which means that the driver support for the seventh series is much better than that of the fifth or sixth series) for the 7750-7770 2 GB of memory is like a hare's fifth leg since they are relatively weak and 1 GB for the eyes. Take 7750 1 GB for no more than $ 60 or 7770 for no more than $ 70 you will have enough of them, because you play in a resolution of 1280x720. For example, on my Athlon X4 3500 MHz and Radeon 7750 1GB GTA5 was quietly running in FullHD 40-70 fps on standard settings, but you will generally fly as you play in just HD resolution and, accordingly, your video load will be two times lower, you can play even at high settings. They told you correctly about the RAM, since it is cheap and if you have one 4GB bar, then just buy the cheapest one 4GB bar and it will work in two-channel mode,

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Zefir4ik_kefir4ik 23.12.20

TwinFrozr
Thanks for the explanation. Ch already seems to have decided on 7770, but I found out that she was eating 80 watts, and my power supply might not pull it. Therefore, I decided that 7750 is better, there seems to be 55 watts, and no additional power is needed. And now they wrote to me that there is also a gtx650, which also eats little, 64 watts. But then everyone sells a different gtx650. Someone with additional food, someone without.
I play in hd because I have to) of course I would like to play full hd, but just hd, it's comfortable for me.

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TwinFrozr 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Take what is cheaper, if you get 7750 bucks for 50-55 then take it and do not think it over, but for 650 they want a lot of money, the price-performance is much worse than that of the Radeons 7750-7770. Nonsense about a weak power supply, do not listen, your power supply will calmly pull even 7850 - 7870, R260-270X will pull without any problems, not to mention the weaker 7750 - 7770. I have a 350 Watt Athlon X4 power supply overclocked to 3500 MHz with 7750 and 8GB of RAM quietly pulled at maximum load under stress tests FurMark and AIDA64 turned on at the same time, the whole system consumed less than 270 watts, and with a weak load such as surfing no more than 110 watts.

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Len4ik00N 23.12.20

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Purely according to calculations, your unit should pull the system from 7770 and another 20 W (via the 12-volt line) remains in stock, but how it will be in practice depends greatly on the state of the power supply itself and the quality of the electricity supply. The 16W difference between 650 and 7770 is too insignificant to make the final choice in favor of a particular card, especially since the power consumption of a GTX 650 factory overclocked may well exceed 90W, just like an overclocked 7770.