Small upgrade
Hello. Such a situation is that there is a computer with the following parameters Athlon x4 640, Radeon hd 5670 512mb, 4gb ram, and a power supply like 450, or. 550.I will need to spend about half a year on it, and I would like to play something) completely upgrade, there is no way to spend money now. And here's the question: if I just change the video card, for some Bu, costing 50-60 dollars, (GeForce gt 640, Radeon 6670), can I play the latest games, and games of 15.14 years, at least at low ones, medium settings, hd resolution, but no lags, at least 30 - 40 FPS?
Or the processor will not pull everything smoothly, and there is no point in changing the video card?
Now, for example, dying light, at minimum settings, in hd resolution, is played with brakes. I think about 20 - 26 fps.
Thank you
Now I'm completely confused with my power supply)
TwinFrozr
I understand, you have my percent, right? But as they wrote to me above, I have some kind of Chinese bp, and it is on 264 W) This scared me)
Well, I will not look towards 650.
Now the choice is between 7750 and 7770. The price is almost the same, but I'm worried about bp. All the same 7750 even additional food is not needed. Or shouldn't I worry and take 7770 ???
My graphics card that I have now is eating 61 watts. 7770 is written, you need 80. for 7750 - 55.
It turns out, if I take 7770, then there will be an additional load of 19 watts on the bp) and if I also add 4 GB of RAM, then another load, did I understand correctly?
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik for FullHD take 7770 it will pull at low-medium without any problems and your block will be enough for almost any video with a consumption of up to 150 watts. By the way, if you have money or can borrow from someone, just buy a new 750TI from Zotac http://hard.rozetka.com.ua/zotac_zt_70601_10m/p666364/ and 4GB used RAM and your computer will have enough for you for a couple more years and you won't have to buy a new computer, as this configuration will last you a couple of years to play FullHD at low-medium settings. Everything is fine with your computer except for vidyahi and RAM. And the price of B. At the GTX650 is too high, it is better to add money and take a new GTX750TI which is twice as powerful as the GTX650 or B. At the Radeon 7770, your power supply will easily pull the power supply from 150 W, not to mention 80 W of the 7770 type.
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik Yes, I have a percentage of how you overclocked to 3500 MHz 8 GB of RAM and the vidyah was 7750 which I sold (I want to buy an RX480 when our snickering hucksters lower the price on it to at least $ 300), the power supply is also Chinese for 350 W and that's it It pulled without problems (I also sold it because the RX480 unit needs at least 450 W), I turned off all the electrical appliances in the apartment in the apartment and left the system unit under load and just looked at the electronic meter (by the way, it is very accurate up to 1 W accuracy) how much the system unit consumes under maximum load when running two stress tests simultaneously and so it consumed less than 270 W, and without load less than 110 W, in toys about 230 W.
TwinFrozr
Thank you, you reassured me) I hope that your calculations are correct, at the expense of BP. So I take 7770) Are you saying that your entire system from 7750 required 270W? But if I really have a power supply of 264W, as they wrote above?)
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Yes, my entire system unit under the maximum load of two stress tests simultaneously working at once consumed less than 270 W and in a toy much less than about 230 W, you have a 460 W unit declared, and not at all 264 W. I have a Chinese block declared for 350W without any problems pulling everything, and this despite the fact that it is 110 W weaker than yours and my vidyah and percent were overclocked, so about your block you can absolutely not steam it all perfectly. And about vidyah, take 7770 with 1GB, since 2GB is like a hare's fifth leg, and it costs much more than the 1GB version. 2 GB of memory are needed for vids starting from Radeon 7850 (R7 265) GeForce starting from 750. By the way, if you ever decide to take a GTX 750, then take the GTX 750TI 2 GB GDDR5 memory, because the GTX750 comes in many versions with 1GB and 2GB GDDR3 and without the TI prefix, so this is all rubbish, the most normal is the one that I advised you exactly GTX 750TI 2GB GDDR5 price-performance it has the best and power consumption of a flashlight, and accordingly it does not warm up well and works quietly. If possible, then take it immediately http://hard.rozetka.com.ua/zotac_zt_70601_10m/p666364/ and 4 GB of used RAM, it will pull many games
in FullHD at medium-high, for example, the fifth GTA5 will pull without problems at high.
I'm not even sure if the PSU is rated for 460w. The model is called 460w, so I assumed)
But SonyK. calculated that I have 264W)
I get it. So I'll take 7770 1GB and 4GB of RAM, thanks for the help.
but about overclocking percent. Is this possible with a boxed cooler? drive through the BIOS? not dangerous, percent will not burn?)
TwinFrozr wrote:
your 460W unit is declared, and not 264W at all.
TS posted the image of the sticker of its PSU above. Have you looked inattentively? Everything is indicated there (and then if you believe the declared).
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Nothing will burn, it burns very rarely when people supply too high a voltage for a percentage, and that is far from always, but I generally do not touch the voltage for a percentage during overclocking, but I just drive at standard voltage and there is enough boxed cooler with my head. Simply through the BIOS you lower the RAM and HyperTrasport (HT) bus frequency by one point, for example, you set the memory frequency to 800 MHz instead of 1333 MHz (or 400 and 677 MHz real frequency), and HT to 1200 MHz instead of 2000 MHz (or 600 instead of 1000 ) frequencies in BIOS can be specified as real and "effective",
hrdCore
There is indicated the declared peak power of 460W and 22A on the 12V line, and my block was pulled by an overclocked computer with a declared peak power of 350W and from 16A on the 12V line, so theoretical nonsense is already good! I tested everything in practice, and not on the basis of bare theory like you!
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
The total declared passport capacity is not very informative. It should be borne in mind that the main part of the consumption falls on the + 12V line, since the processor and VC are powered from this line. Therefore, if the power supply is enough, it is necessary to take into account exactly how much this power supply outputs through the 12V line. So SonyK, in general, correctly said, more precisely, your power supply unit is no more than ~ 290 W and then if you believe what is indicated on the sticker (and in a new state, and in what state the capacitors of your power supply unit are not visible from here).
hrdCore
Everything was fine for me even at 16A, and his block is much steeper with 22A on the 12V line
TwinFrozr
Above, I did not say that it will not pull, I just pointed out that it is not known in what state of the power supply unit. Don't be confused.
TwinFrozr wrote:
not based on bare theory like you!
wrong, no need to guess.
You yourself also indicated
TwinFrozr wrote:
so it consumed less than 270 watts
So this is "from the socket".
Calculate taking into account the efficiency of your TwinFrozr wrote:
the Chinese unit is declared for 350W
How much will be at the output of the PSU, and not at the input? And this is in total on all lines, not just on + 12V line. Subtract about 20-25 W more from the obtained value (the consumption of typical configurations on the remaining lines: 3.3V and + 5V is usually not higher than these values ​​- it has been checked, including by our own measurements). So where is the conflict with 16A?
hrdCore What contradictions are you talking about ?! I have Chinese junk with the declared 350W peak power on all lines and 16A on the 12V line, pulling the entire overclocked system unit at the maximum load artificially created while FurMark + AIDA64 was running without any problems, not to mention games that consumed significantly less energy than stress tests And what do you want to say that its power supply with the declared 460W and 22A will not pull a similar configuration ?!
TwinFrozr wrote:
its power supply with the declared 460W and 22A will not pull a similar configuration ?!
Have you seen this above in my posts? No? And what is the question then? Read my messages more carefully (if necessary, quote the message that confused you, seemed incorrect, etc.). What's wrong?
TwinFrozr wrote:
What contradictions are you talking about ?!
Don't get it again? This -
TwinFrozr wrote:
my unit was pulled by an overclocked computer with a declared peak power of 350W and from 16A on the 12V line.
What is your phrase? So what's the contradiction? Consumption at 12 V lines of this configuration does not go beyond 16 A. What is incomprehensible? You yourself, by your own example of measuring energy consumption, confirmed what I said.
hrdCore
I mean that many here, and indeed in conversations about PSUs on various forums, including iron forums, clearly lower the potentials of different PSUs and exaggerate the power consumption of views and processes, and very often advise to change it, motivating that it allegedly will not pull this configuration, although most of all this is absolutely not so, and in most cases it is not at all necessary to change the power supply unit to more powerful ones when changing components, since new components are sawn on new, thinner technical processes and, accordingly, they consume less energy than their predecessors.
TwinFrozr
Well, is there anything else in my messages that you think is incorrect? This is to avoid misunderstandings.
hrdCoreYes, what do you think that his power supply unit is ancient like mammoth shit, in general, speak in this style like his power supply unit is full of rubbish that will not pull a slightly more powerful configuration than he has now.
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
You have a pci express connector for a video card, why don't you want to buy a new one, for example, r5 240 2gb costs $ 65.
