Small upgrade

X_ray_83
X_ray_83 wrote:
So what? How old is he? And what kind of firm, no-name !? And if so, then there is no guarantee in anything that you "argue" there)))
I already wrote that I had a Chinese block with a declared peak power of 350 W and 16A and pulled a similar configuration perfectly, and its Chinese with the declared 460 W and 22A, you mean it won't pull ?!
X_ray_83 wrote:
I had this card, unlike some, and it was overclocked to 38-40fps, how can the owner of the 7770 know this))
Petrosyan when you finally get the logs out of your eyes ?! Where did I claim that I am the owner of the 7770 ?!
X_ray_83 wrote:
And if you do not have it, then you can simply advise at least 6970 which is better!
That is, you want to say that he has a BP of Chinese junk and you would advise a better 6970 which eats immensely and heats up, well, you and Petrosyan! Why the heck to advise a wretched brazier on an old architecture and a 40 nm process technology that eats immensely if there is a 7850-7870 on a new architecture and a new process technology with noticeably lower power consumption and heat release ?!
X_ray_83 wrote: it’s
immediately clear that I didn’t deal with the hardware, the Radeon 6870 card ... 6950 eats almost 200 watts by itself without a chip, I had a cooler block than his CoolerMaster eXtreme Power 430W there 300-350 and did not pull a shit, 300 wadded nouname will pull? Think about these words of nubin and lamer.
You are just liquid lamer-petrosyan. Where did I say something in general about vidyahs 6870-6950? Why the heck are they to me or to him if there is a seventh series that consumes less, less heat and a new architecture, so why the heck did you even bring the ancient sixth series here?
X_ray_83 wrote:
I had a cooler block than his CoolerMaster eXtreme Power 430W there 300-350 and did not pull a damn thing, will a 300 watt nouname pull from a dick? Think about these words of nubin and lamer.
That he does not pull 7770 which I advised him?! Think about these words nubin and lamer
X_ray_83 wrote:
See enough "such" tests in the internet and they are "experts" and then write such nonsense on the forums!
You say golden words to yourself, because it was you who began to upload tests and links to the test while talking about how much his video card and other vidyahi consume, but in fact it turned out that you are just an ordinary lamer who cannot distinguish the consumption of the entire system from consumption video cards!

TwinFrozr
"and its Chinese with the declared 460 W and 22A, you mean it won't pull ?!"
I do not believe in this ! Only the insane believe in the correct numbers on the case of the Chinese no-name, I can throw off a lot of such pictures to reality, this has nothing to do with it.
Proof of a good PSU for me in disassembled form, in tsiferki just NOOS also believe.
This block, along with the body, goes 100%, it’s better not to remember such a crap junk from the power of 250W
"That it does not pull the 7770 which I advised him ?!"
No, the same 200W.
"Where did I say anything in general about vidyahs 6870-6950?"
That's exactly what isn't. But they are more interesting, especially 6950 with BIOS from 6970!
"Why the heck they gave up to me or him if there is a seventh series that consumes less, less heat and a new architecture so why the heck did you even bring the ancient sixth series here?"
Because 6950-6970 is faster than 7770-7790, don't you suffer from dementia? And he indicated a price of $ 60-70, find another 7850 2gb for such a price, does not it reach?
"But in reality it turned out that you are just an ordinary lamer who cannot distinguish the consumption of the entire system from the consumption of a video card!"
The tests were noob for you, I don't believe in any tests, only practice, you are the generation of the "Internet" testics in youtube, you have the truth))) Well, what should you take from the poor)))
In general, the poor are not interested in you to write anything, because you advise the most the worst available, these people are usually called shit-eaters "

X_ray_83 wrote:
I don't believe in it! Only the insane believe in the correct numbers on the case of the Chinese noun, I can throw a lot of such pictures to reality, this has nothing to do with it.
Proof of a good PSU for me in disassembled form, in tsiferki just NOOS also believe.
This block, along with the body, goes 100%, it’s better not to remember such a slop junk from the power of 250W
What the Chinese write on the PSU is the peak power, but I see that this term is not familiar to you, it is clear that its real power is much lower, but at the same time, its PSU will pull 7770 without any problems, which I advised him, since I tested it in practice the performance of a similar configuration on a Chinese power supply unit with a declared 350W and a 12V 16A line, which is why I am sure that its power supply unit with the declared 460W and 22A will perfectly pull 7770!
X_ray_83 wrote:
Because 6950-6970 is faster than 7770-7790, don't you suffer from dementia? And he indicated a price of $ 60-70, find another 7850 2gb for such a price, does not it reach?
6950-6970 is faster than 7770-7790, only they are more expensive and their power consumption and heat release are several times higher! You are here trying to prove that his BP is Chinese rubbish, so why would you advise him to buy a vidyahi that eat 2.5-3 (!) Times more than 7770 eh ?! Don't you suffer from dementia?
X_ray_83 wrote: The
tests were a noob for you, I don't believe in any tests, only practice, you are the generation of the "Internet" testics in youtube, you have the truth))) Well, what to take from the poor)))
In general, the poor one is not interested in you to write anything, so As you advise the worst of the available, such people are usually called shit-eaters "neither to themselves nor to people."
You are just imbecile! I advise on the basis of practice, I personally measured the power consumption of a similar configuration on a Chinese power supply unit with the declared 350 W and 16A on the 12V line, but you started throwing your link tests "proving" that "I am wrong" only your links showed the exact opposite so that it is good to see here already shifting from a sore head to a healthy one, your tests did not give up to me and tries, since I tested a similar configuration in practice and on a weaker power supply unit! I advise, based on many parameters, power consumption - heat dissipation, price-performance, architecture, availability of funds and power supply capabilities. And you are just a lamer-Petrosyan who has never seen the light, who is trying to prove how "poor" a person has BP and at the same time telling about the fact that it is better to take 6950-6970 which consume energy in 2.

X_ray_83
Indeed, you are just claiming that 7770 is rubbish, and I need to get something better. or the same 5870. Or 66 .. something there. But you don't even consider that 5870 consumes a lot of energy, and 66 .. something there is more expensive, and also consumes a lot of energy. I am looking for the ratio Price - quality - energy consumption. 7770 for 1 GB is ideal for these parameters.

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
Not the fact that the 7770 will pull out, here you need a 400w unit at least! On good terms, you need to change the power supply, but if it breaks, then the output is only Nvidia 650ti or 750ti, then they eat much less, there are versions without additional power supply in general, such as Asus GTX650-E-2GD5. And Radeon needs a unit with real 400W and not 300-350W.

X_ray_83 wrote:
Not the fact that the 7770 will pull out, here you need a 400w block at least! On good terms, you need to change the power supply, but if it breaks, then the output is only Nvidia 650ti or 750ti, then they eat much less, there are versions without additional power supply in general, such as Asus GTX650-E-2GD5. And Radeon needs a unit with real 400W and not 300-350W.
And what for do you then advise him 6950-6970 whose consumption is 200 and 250 W, respectively, and vilify 7770 whose consumption is only 80 W eh? And you continue to drive nonsense about his supposedly weak power supply unit that cannot power 80 W 7770 but claim that 110 W 650Ti supposedly eats much less than 7770 at 80 W.

X_ray_83
my video card (which is currently installed ) uses 61 watts. 7770 - 80. I also think my PSU will pull an additional 19 watts.

TwinFrozr
I think a block should be thrown out if it does not have at least these specifications: OCP, OVP, SCP, OPP, OTP, UVP. If not, a block of garbage that can drag the entire computer with it.
"80 W 7770 but you say that 110 W 650T" 80 W
is not in games, and in games with a maximum load of 150-200, etc. And yes, the stock should be at least 50W.

X_ray_83 wrote:
I think a block should be thrown out if it does not have at least these specifications: OCP, OVP, SCP, OPP, OTP, UVP. If not, a block of garbage that can drag the entire computer with it.
I saw a branded cheftek who flew because of the blown up kanders and took his mother with him and no protection helped him and saw a lot of Chinese "noname" power supplies that worked regularly for about 5-7 years or worked for several years and just died quietly themselves, did not touching the rest of the kit, then how lucky. So your tales that the whole "noname" is shit, and keep all the branded ones with the supposedly implemented protections there, as they both fly and sometimes grab some kind of kit that happens very rarely, most often just quietly themselves are dying peacefully.

80W is not in games, and in games with a maximum load of 150-200, etc. And yes, the stock should be at least 50W.
It's already good to petrosyan! 80 W maximum consumption of 7770 in games, all manufacturers of vidia indicate the maximum consumption in games of their vids at standard frequencies and standard springs, since the minimum consumption does not bother anyone. About 150-200 watts consumption of 7770 in games you will fill your grandmother with points, or go to some iron forum and tell it to members of the forum, you will amuse the people at the same time.

X_ray_83
Yes, where did you get that not in games ??? This is the maximum power consumption that can be. At least that's what it says in the official information for these cards. By your logic, my 5670, for which the consumption of 61 watts is written, also eats 150 watts in load? And how is my power supply, which is trash, pulling it?
Where do you get this data ????

TwinFrozr wrote:
As for this particular PSU that TS has, I could give a specific answer only by "holding it in my hands." Without measuring the voltages (at least with a multimeter) issued by this PSU under the required load and without measuring the ripple level (for this you need an oscilloscope), answers in the style of "Yes" or "No" are just at the level of philosophizing. Here is the question of the suitability of this power supply unit for operation in general, and not "enough", "not enough". This is what my posts above are about. And just "enough" or "not enough" has already been indicated above, based on the stated parameters of the power supply unit.
X_ray_83 wrote:
80W is not in games, and in games with a maximum load of 150-200, etc.
Measured consumption of HD7770 (ref) in Furmark ~ 83 W, in Crysis 2 average ~ 66 W, peak ~ 73 W. But this is ref 7770. For example, ASUS Radeon HD 7770 has DirectCU 95, 68 and 75 W respectively.
According to the link that you brought
X_ray_83 wrote:
Here is an overview of his card eats 120W ...
there is just the consumption of the entire system "from the socket" (that is, taking into account the efficiency of the applied power supply, the consumption of components is even less) when testing using that method , which was used by the author of the review.
Here are also, for example, the results of one of the personally conducted double stress tests of a system with an i5 3450 + HD 7790 - 204 W "from the socket", the components themselves are ~ 182 W (the efficiency of the applied power supply unit at that load is ~ 89%). This is Linx (required in Idle mode) + Furmark. AIDA + Furmark - ~ 174 and ~ 155 watts, respectively.
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik The
question is no longer about what "pulls out", but how "pulls out". How to check - indicated above. I always test this kind of power supply unit (in those computers that come to me), but in your case, I personally cannot see its state through the forum, so it will not be possible to give a definite answer.
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No need to rely on the total rated power of the power supply unit (especially from the peak power). It is not very informative. And about this has already been indicated 100,500 times on various iron forums. It is necessary to take into account just the return on the + 12V line (and whether a specific PSU normally gives the declared one is a separate question), unless, of course, you are using specifically ancient systems with CPU power from the + 5V line.
For example LINKWORLD LW2-430W (new "out of the box" so to speak) with declared 18 A on + 12V lines, and 180 W (and this is for all lines in total) does not give out without going beyond acceptable limits - I have already checked it many times.

hrdCore wrote: Regarding
this specific instance of the power supply unit that TS has, I could give a specific answer only by "holding it in my hands." Without measuring the voltages (at least with a multimeter) issued by this PSU under the required load and without measuring the ripple level (for this you need an oscilloscope), answers in the style of "Yes" or "No" are just at the level of philosophizing. Here is the question of the suitability of this power supply unit for operation in general, and not "enough", "not enough". This is what my posts above are about. And just "enough" or "not enough" has already been indicated above, based on the stated parameters of the power supply unit.
The fact is that the vehicle has no money for a new normal power supply unit. If he is completely satisfied with how his system works and no problems arise, then there is no point in bothering about the power supply. The only thing that can be done in his case is to visually view the kanders for swellings and then decide what to do with it. Even if his power supply unit flies, it is unlikely that he will take the whole system with him, and everything else is little things in life.

TwinFrozr wrote: to
visually inspect the kanders for swellings
It is possible to do so, although condensers often dry out without swelling (but visual inspection is at least something).
TwinFrozr wrote:
The fact is that the vehicle has no money for a new normal power supply unit. If he is completely satisfied with how his system works and no problems arise, then there is no point in bothering about the power supply.
So among the computers passing through me, if a power supply unit with out-of-range indicators is found (meaning working, without specific malfunctions), then I indicate this to the owner - and then the decision is made by him himself. No one forces me to force.

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
You are old. In games, it was somewhere on the level of the Core Q8300 (cut from 4 MB of L2 cache), at best - at the level of the same processor when overclocked to 3.4 GHz; is clearly worse than the usual cutoff Q9500 overclocked to the same frequency. Overclocking it to 3.6 GHz will give an emphasis on the processor somewhere the same as the 9500 and 8300 at 1920x1080.

hrdCore
I get it. We must believe the state of the bp. But I don't understand this at all. Hardly I can understand something.
Yesterday I was with a friend. His computer is even worse than mine, he uses it to surf the Internet. But the power supply seems to be better. I didn’t remember the brand, but it already looks like a real brand, and it’s stated like 430. And there are more numbers) And its block is a little newer than mine. Therefore, I will be asking him to change the power supply unit with me. But this is all a little gemorno, and I would like to do without these manipulations.
hrdCore. My power supply is working fine now. But do you think that if there is something with capacitors, or something else, and I connect the card a little more powerful, with additional power, then maybe the power supply will burn out?

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
I'll switch the card a little more powerful, with additional power supply, then maybe the power supply will burn out?
if about 7770, then there is little difference in consumption. For 7770, you saw the consumption values ​​above. According to HD 5670, those consumption measurements (of the VC itself) that I saw are 45-54 (average-peak) in 3DMark03 Nature and 62-66 in Furmark.
I have doubts in what condition your power supply unit is. But since
Zefir4ik_kefir4ik wrote:
My power supply is working fine now,
then it's good.
If further down the course there are questions about the power supply, then it is better to go straight to the topic - The choice of PC power systems (power supply, UPS) and problems with it

hrdCore
Yes, I've also seen different metering tests for 5670 and 7770. The difference is small. I saw a measurement of the entire system from 7770, and with characteristics more powerful than my system, there were 190 at peak load.

I mean, I don't see any problems with the operation of the system, and bp, but as I said, I don't understand bp)
ok, in any case, I sell 5670, buy 7770 and we'll see)

Zefir4ik_kefir4ik
In 2015, I had a computer assembly in 2009 for 30k, with intel core 2 duo, Nvidia GeForce GT9600 512mb and 4gb RAM, GTA 5 flew at minimum salaries. So you will do too

Something everyone tells me about GTA 5) I have already passed GTA 5 on ps3 for a long time, and played enough online. Therefore, I am not particularly interested in GTA 5. And as far as I know, GTA 5 has good optimization, so it works well even on weak PCs.
I'm more interested in games like Dying light, Mad Max, mirror's edge, Fallout 4. And games that are coming soon, like Mafia 3, or something else.

I decided to check the percentage of temperature under load.
I am using HwMonitor. The game shows the pace of the cores up to 50 degrees. Confused one. There is such a point called Cpuitin, and so it shows the maximum temperature all the time about 100, or more degrees. The minimum and average are about 40 - 50. What is this?
Video card 66 in load.