God of War - Plot Discussion (Spoiler alert)

14 minutes ago, Brontozyvr said:

What do you mean? I think the message was that he, as a father, is ready to give his life for a child, and understands Freya in this regard

Yes, I understand that. I just decided to estimate in general how many times he was killed (plot). For reference only.

now stumbled upon a battle with Magni and Modi, dialogue from there

Kratos: Why do you hunt us? What does Odin want?

Magni and Modi: Don't know. Don't care.

well, that is, if they were hunting for Kratos because they thought he was a giant, then they would clearly know why)

Barlog with the EZA team discussing the plot of the game

Although there were abstracts here, who would translate the most interesting and useful.

Friends, please tell me, who bought the epic equipment, where can I get the rusty Ivaldi armor and Niflheim alloy?

HAMud In Niflheim, your world is open?

2 hours ago, CRIMATOR said:

now stumbled upon a battle with Magni and Modi, dialogue from there

Kratos: Why do you hunt us? What does Odin want?

Magni and Modi: Don't know. Don't care.

well, that is, if they were hunting for Kratos because they thought he was a giant, then they would clearly know why)

Meeting with Mimir also confirms this.

Kratos asks him "why is Odin's son hunting us?" That is, everything is more complicated than just "One wants to kill all the giants"

CRIMATOR Well, as it were, these two are just not in the subject, so they say so, they told them and do it.

They didn't say anything to Mimir either, he doesn't know. But then they realize why, perhaps Odin does not want to kill, but Baldur was going to kill him. At the beginning of the game, he didn't even ask a question, answering "You know what I want". Although Kratos doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all.

6 minutes ago, TA_Rubedo said:

CRIMATOR Well, as it were, these two are just not in the subject, so they say so, they told them and do it.

They didn't say anything to Mimir either, he doesn't know. But then they realize why, perhaps Odin does not want to kill, but Baldur was going to kill him. At the beginning of the game, he didn't even ask a question, answering "You know what I want". Although Kratos doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all.

Well, as far as I understand, Thor drove around Midgard for years, killing giants. That is, it was total extermination, which should be known, if not all living in the world, but certainly all the gods of Asgard. This is a great event in the history of the world.

And it is very strange that the sons of Thor do not know why they are hunting for Kratos at all. It is strange that Mimir does not know, he must know for sure that Odin is obsessed with the extermination of giants.

In general, the theory that Kratos was simply mistaken for a giant is highly questionable.

21 minutes ago, CRIMATOR said:

Kratos asks him "why is Odin's son hunting us?"

And what will he answer him, because Loki is a giant, but this is a spoiler, so forget it? ))

well it works the other way too

well, that is, if they were hunting for Kratos because they thought he was the god of war, then they would clearly know why 

While Baldur initially seems to turn up looking for Kratos, Mimir mentioned that Odin wants Kratos / Atreus to go "where he cannot reach", which is Jotunheim. Atreus is confused how anyone could know that before they knew the highest mountain in all the realms was in Jotunheim, but Mimir points out that Odin collects prophecies. He possibly didn't really know who Kratos was, or Atreus even existed, just that their journey was foretold. 

Just now, Jenea said:

And what will he answer him, because Loki is a giant, but this is a spoiler, so forget it? ))

So Balder originally came for Kratos, he did not know anything about Atreya at all

well it works the other way too

I think everything is more complicated there than just "because he is the god of war from Greece"

but I also think Odin could simply not tell them who Kratos is. Whereas the genocide of the giants is a well-known event that the whole of Asgard knows for sure. What's the point of Odin not telling them that Kratos is a giant?

Just now, CRIMATOR said:

So Balder originally came for Kratos, he did not know anything about Atreya at all

how do you know that he came exactly for Kratos? I think he was looking for a giant, he first saw Kratos and took him for a giant

I am not saying that this theory is correct, but at the moment it seems to be the most plausible

What's the point of Odin not telling them that Kratos is a giant?

the brothers themselves said that they didn’t give a damn, and given that they didn’t shine with their minds, perhaps Odin didn’t see any reason to explain everything to them, he just said find him and that’s all

again, maybe in the beginning it was as I wrote above, and then something changed and new reasons appeared for finding our duet

CRIMATOR Who, them? He could only tell his son about it and that's all. He did not succeed the first time, and the second time he brought friends with him. It is not specified what exactly he told them, but he could just say that he was hunting two of Odin's enemies or something like that. Because if they had warned them that Kratos was god, they might have behaved differently with him. And the second would not be surprised how Kratos could kill his brother. And the sharp shock and surprise in the voice is clearly reflected.

As for Thor. That his persecution was a very long time ago. Yes, and one of the giants, the snake, was quietly lying in the lake and no one needed him.

Mimir Kratos didn't see how he knew who he was. He only realized later when he talked to Athena.

I think he was looking for a giant, he first saw Kratos and took him for a giant

He was looking for a giant, the same story says. It is unclear why this fact is then discussed as a theory.

2 minutes ago, TA_Rubedo said:

CRIMATOR Who, them? He could only tell his son about it and that's all. He did not succeed the first time, and the second time he brought friends with him. It is not specified what exactly he told them, but he could just say that he was hunting two of Odin's enemies or something like that. Because if they had warned them that Kratos was god, they might have behaved differently with him. And the second would not be surprised how Kratos could kill his brother. And the sharp shock and surprise in the voice is clearly reflected.

As for Thor. That his persecution was a very long time ago. Yes, and one of the giants, the snake, was quietly lying in the lake and no one needed him.

Once again, the giant hunt is clearly an event of incredible proportions throughout Asgard. They were clearly not the only one hunting. It is unlikely that they would not have been told that the murder of a giant was imminent.

Mimir Kratos didn't see how he knew who he was. He only realized later when he talked to Athena.

he immediately realized that Kratos is a god

their first meeting

Mimir: he [Atrei] does not know who you are

Kratos: And I Would Keep It Valid

Revised the video, Loki drew the runes with his blood to open the passage to Jotunheim, perhaps Odin thought that the portal could only be opened using the blood of giants, so Balder chased them like crazy

8 minutes ago, Jenea said:

how do you know that he came exactly for Kratos? I think he was looking for a giant, he first saw Kratos and took him for a giant

I am not saying that this theory is correct, but at the moment it seems to be the most plausible

then why neither the sons of Thor, nor Mimir know that he is supposedly a giant? 

the brothers themselves said that they didn’t give a damn, and given that they didn’t shine with their minds, perhaps Odin didn’t see any reason to explain everything to them, he just said find him and that’s all

Well, a strange assumption, not based on anything

I'm not saying that they were looking for him, because they found out that he is a god from Greece, but even in the theory about the giant, not everything works out.

1 minute ago, CRIMATOR said:

neither Mimir know that he is supposedly a giant

so mimir just knows that he is a strange god, but does not know where.

Well, a strange assumption, not based on anything

and what other options can there be? so far nothing else comes to my mind

in general, after passing a bunch of questions

1) Why are the giants in Jotunheim dead? 

2) Why was Balder hunting them? Why did he suddenly change his mind and drag Atreus away? 

3) What kind of voices does Atreus hear?

4) What the hell is that with the fact that everything is predicted in advance, the Serpent flew in from the future, and so on?

5) How did Kratos get into Norse mythology?

5) What is this war between light and dark elves?

6) What is this giant eagle sitting in Helheim?

7) What is this ray of light in Alheim? Barlog answered this question in a podcast

Barlog said for a long time that they want to do everything according to the Notti Dog principle - "a simple story, complex characters." I thought that in terms of the complexity of the plot, I would get something like The Last of Us, but in the end, the feeling that MGS passed 

8 minutes ago, CRIMATOR said:

he immediately realized that Kratos is a god

I think he did not understand this out of nowhere, given who was to hunt him and what they wanted from him, it is not difficult to guess that he was not Vasya the summer resident))

And who and why, FIG knows. I think the Greek gods were stronger than the giants, and most likely Asgard.

Just now, Jenea said:

and what other options can there be? so far nothing else comes to my mind

There, Barlog said in a podcast that he had planned the plot a hundred years ahead and that the game had a lot of leads for the next games, and that he would explain all the misunderstandings in the future. So for now, most likely we just do not know and this is one of the intrigues of the series.