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New battery — Toyota Will VS, 1.8 liter, 2002

   Toyota Will VS 18 2002

Since the old battery no longer met the requirements for it and got tired of carrying it home in cold weather to warm it (at -30 there was not enough capacity to turn the starter). Also, the battery, already in frosts below -20, did not start the car after an interval of 4 hours (the launch setting was reset at the interval from a voltage drop when trying to start)
It was decided to buy a new one.
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Panasonic 60B24L 50Ah battery was purchased.
The declared starting current is up to 450A, so I paid attention to it. In addition, Panasonic is a longtime partner of Toyota and under the hood it will be appropriate)))

So the car was once again frozen and after the holidays required resuscitation.
The battery was purchased, delivered to the car and installed.
The test showed that with a new battery frozen, just like a car, you can start the internal combustion engine on the first try at a temperature of -33.

July 2015 - worked for 4.5 years - excellent battery

   Toyota Will VS 18 2002   Toyota Will VS 18 2002   Toyota Will VS 18 2002 Issue price: 4 800 ₽ Mileage : 72�400 km
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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

maybe, but not in my case)

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oleg-chelny 23.02.22

I just heard in new cars at very low temperatures it rises to warm-up temperatures in a couple of minutes, so that you don’t force a cold engine right away.

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

oleg-chelny

Why doesn't he keep warm?

after rearranging the battery, the computer settings are reset. so idling didn't hold. when starting the internal combustion engine in subsequent times, a similar effect with idling is no longer observed even at -33-35

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

maybe))) but 30,000 or more have not yet been lying around

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oleg-chelny 23.02.22

can you put a webasto?

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

I agree, sorry. But here is Siberia. How about going without a car for a few months?

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oleg-chelny 23.02.22

it's better not to torment the car at all in such frosts)

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

the oil is thick in such a frost, the xx valve, like the whole car, is also frozen, etc. after 1.5 minutes, the speed rose to 2000 and everything is ok.
at temperatures above -30, let's say -20, the revolutions immediately after starting become 2000 and even slightly higher and gradually drop to the nominal 900 as they warm up.
-33 is still cold for the car.

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oleg-chelny 23.02.22

Why doesn't he keep warm?

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

For 1nz, this is probably enough, it will not charge 75 ... But 2zz and 1zz will calmly charge 75 (or maybe more) checked! The adapter is sold, installed without problems =)
Of course, this is enough, you see, I took it with the expectation that there is no autorun. In winter I drove every day, in the morning it always started

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

I could have screwed up and put in a larger size. But I didn’t want to “collective farm” adapters for large terminals or remake the terminals. And besides, I think the generator is not designed to work in tandem with similar batteries. Therefore, I set the maximum of the allowed sizes.

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

Good! BUT 60 is not enough =) there is still room ... changing 75 was, it has a launcher of about 600 (the maximum that fits) rests on the radiator pipe ... I started at 40-45 =) the second time. And at 33 the same from the first! There were no warm-ups.

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somebody 23.02.22

that’s for sure, today I took it, I had to ...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

the right decision. but if you feel like driving, you can't get anywhere. and no garage

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somebody 23.02.22

And I decided - until the holidays, frosts, well, I’ll put it in the garage, let it rest, and so do I :)

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Slavik-WiLL 23.02.22

E. zheskach of course. Feels like metal without lubrication works. I immediately changed the battery with large terminals in the fall! Of course it's a pity for the machine, but what to do, at least it starts.
But "See the LADA in winter, try to open its doors!
Her stove does not heat ... "

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

Reiteral

Good battery, grabs quickly for such a temperature! I already have a dead one, besides, 45, with such a frostbite, it barely turns, does not grasp until it more or less unwinds! Yes, and I try not to start at temperatures below -25, well, only if you really need to!
In that year, it was required to drive a car every morning, so at -30 it started, also gasped it up, and at -33 the battery sent me nah. doesn't catch!

And here runks?! The neighbor needs to add convolutions ... I started it at 43 last year - without warming up. Every day! And 2zz also starts if the car is prepared for winter operation. 45 is for japan or for heat

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

DIMA PROJECT

More wires for lighting need to be done. This is a must-have accessory in a Siberian's car, but I haven't got it yet. We can have -25 and below almost all winter. So? don't drive a car? You have to spend money on gasoline - it is on warm-up (starts periodically)

It's strange that your neighbor does not start ranks.
if the damper is clean, the spark plugs are fresh, the gas is normal, it should start.
Let's do some prevention.

You really think! And on the mechanics it is useful to have a CABLE. On January 2, I didn’t start the Lancer ... well, I didn’t go and didn’t warm up (the battery was old). I rushed to the crv - 5 minutes and the pusher wound up

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Very detailed answer, I do it all the time ...

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

With a gun, you just need to grind =)

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Yes, automatic...

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

do you have an automatic?

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Tell me…
I really have it in the garage and there are -5 in total…
But it’s still interesting if I suddenly go somewhere and it’s cold there…

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aka-mazai 23.02.22

Let him write to me =) I will tell him how to start 2zz

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Reiteral 23.02.22

I have already got wires for lighting, the second battery is always at home, I needed it once already, I smoked my neighbors a couple of times!
I don’t know why it’s like this, after the first “non-planting” only a warm box helped, even changing the candles did not help! and then they put cars with him at the same time in the evening, went out to start the car together in the morning, at night it was about -30, in the morning -25! I'm turned on! He let's twist, twists cheerfully, but there are no flashes, he does not even try to grasp! Take him to work! Again I had to drag Ranks into the box to warm up! I don’t know what they were doing, but so far it’s been driving, and it’s true that frosts below -25 have not yet been after that!
Yes, of course, a lot depends on the battery, when it spins briskly, it grabs quickly even at -30, and with a run-down battery, today it twisted for 3-5 seconds until it started, although it was -20 in total!

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

More wires for lighting need to be done. This is a must-have accessory in a Siberian's car, but I haven't got it yet. We can have -25 and below almost all winter. So? don't drive a car? You have to spend money on gasoline - it is on warm-up (starts periodically)

It's strange that your neighbor does not start ranks.
if the damper is clean, the spark plugs are fresh, the gas is normal, it should start.
Let's do some prevention.

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Reiteral 23.02.22

Good battery, grabs quickly for such a temperature! I already have a dead one, besides, 45, with such a frostbite, it barely turns, does not grasp until it more or less unwinds! Yes, and I try not to start at temperatures below -25, well, only if you really need to!
In that year, it was required to drive a car every morning, so at -30 it started, also gasped it up, and at -33 the battery sent me nah. doesn't catch!

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Surround 23.02.22

-26 on an almost motorcycle varta (rather dead than alive. He is old). very hard to start. but from the first key and 3 turns gave life. but the engine made terrible sounds (.

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SanekVS 23.02.22

He also carried out this manipulation, only put the muddy at 55.

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Okay, I'll wait, it became interesting, on the Internet one thing on the label is another ...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

When selling, they demonstrate with a load plug that the voltage of the charged one is more than 12 V, and under load the voltage does not drop below 10 V.
I have a device at work that tests the battery, I will drive the car and measure it and post the results here

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Everything is somehow wound up ...
And at the very beginning, when you took it, did you measure how many amperes it was with the device and all that?

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

Panasonic in the B24 dimension
has 46B24,50B24,55B24,60B24
the first number is just the capacity (according to some Japanese measurement standards)
B24-size
L-reverse polarity

about the battery that I bought, it is known that the maximum starting current can be 450A (information from most sources, although 470 A is written on the label)
i.e. I bought the most powerful of the size B24

50 Ah - this is written on the label in Russian pasted on the battery
corresponds to the Japanese designation "60"

it’s just that on the internet in some sources about the 60B24L battery it is written that it corresponds to 55Ah, and in some 50Ah.
in short, it doesn’t matter how someone writes, the battery will not change its characteristics from this)

The unit of measurement itself shows that the battery capacity is the product of the constant current of the battery discharge (in amperes, sometimes in milliamps) and the discharge time (in hours):

E [A * hour] = I [A] x T [hour]

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

And what is written in the instructions?
It’s just maybe 55, although they could have put a different instruction ...
I have the same small one but 45 Ah ...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

Oh exactly. Attentive.
50 is written))) Well, probably it is, although in different sources on the Internet it is written both 50 and 55.

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Does it say 50 Ah?
I wonder why this is so...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

I purchased 55 Ah

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Amp ...
It says 50 amps...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

fifty? What do you mean?

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Ivanovnvkz 23.02.22

Why did you choose 50?
I have 45 next time I will take at least 55-60 amperes ...

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

bucket of hot water? - I would not ... sorry ...

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somebody 23.02.22

I recently forgot to put the heating on and will freeze, a bucket of hot water and it started up, went to the station for something, they washed the candles, put new ones, now it starts up with a half kick) even without warming up)

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

Well, if you really need it, then yes)

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somebody 23.02.22

you have to go)))

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DIMA PROJECT 23.02.22

Thanks. He's already done his job. Enough for 5 years.

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kni667 23.02.22

A good choice!