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Mercedes is it...or how to dig a kilogram of carbon black(work)

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkGeländewagen Lang

Hit the repair trehsharnirnye German beast GL 420 CDI V8 BITURBO, ОМ629 , drain антbфриза to this third-party "master" changed the pump and did not notice that she is not to blame, and the gasket under temperature-controlled valve, VCG, there is a gasket just rotted and crumbled, but the wizard didn't notice and changed the pump

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizeSeat mount VCG(red), pump(yellow)

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizetemperature-controlled valve VCG-laying in the dust

To remove the valve, remove intake manifold with throttle, what we saw then-at the moment this is the record for the amount of soot in the inlet we saw...

In some places the thickness of the layer reached 2cm!, the diameter of the intake openings of the cylinders has been reduced to two, due to this "black wealth"

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Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizeprotective crust=)

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Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizeRare shot from the intake canal climbs foam river

Then there was a month waiting for parts and poneslas, Powerful alkaline chemistry B Bios Grass, kerosene, degreaser and a couple dozen liters of water-all this was thrown to the leaching of the intake ports and valves, due to soot them it was not possible to see from the cylinder valve propped a pressure of 2 bar through a specially machined adapter with a compressor, all of this of course gave result and the intake was cleaned

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizealmost like a new motor

intake manifold cleaned all of the same chemistry and Karcher K7, 7th generation, powerful stuff, our old K5.55 resting on the sidelines

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Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizeI was not scared

Replaced the valve VCG, and up razvadouski cylinder head, of a surge drum which "soaked" like a cookie and crumbled, replaced by a strip of teploobmennika(weak spot V-obrusnikova MV), gasket EGR cooler, replaced dead heated thermostat, and more

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizetube of razvadouski cylinder head

Mercedes is itor how to dig a kilogram of carbon blackworkFull sizecrumbles like a soggy biscuit

Now the engine began to breathe again in full force, not losing antifreeze and not overheat due to the thermostat dead

The reason for the formation of such quantities of soot-driving on a cold engine

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MuHoTaBp 27.07.19

Alexcrab

In the particulate filter

not everyone has filters )

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OldNiver 27.07.19

RKorolev

fuck your PP! pile up the Field

A FOOL OR WHAT ?

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ALL4SWAP 27.07.19

For the first owner it really is
And problems of Indians of the Sheriff do not touch

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DimasSid 27.07.19

Here's the recommendations of the auto plant that new cars do not need warm up, started and drove!

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XESn1 27.07.19

Machines did well, only up to 90' year.

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lexa1515 27.07.19

-) I sarcastically wrote!

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Oleggrom 27.07.19

no wonder confused :)

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lexa1515 27.07.19

I just wrote about it. Not warming up the engine, we shorten it to "life."

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Oleggrom 27.07.19

lexa1515

no wonder the Germans were forbidden to warm up the car)

it seems the problem is just driving on a cold motor, and not Vice versa

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mobylman 27.07.19

Black-Light

figs knows, I never asked

how much it cost the repair and s/h?

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digdriver 27.07.19

Well, it's just a concern. The same unions and advances is kept in orbit docked to the ISS for the same reason, only six months (or slightly more), also rubber/plastic to degrade. It just happens much faster :)

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MaxT 27.07.19

the machine is different, and the problems of the one and same)
tube into dust, heat exchangers, etc.
the iron works well but any prokladki and rezinochki not stand.

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NexDBD 27.07.19

OBD-II

I'm all talked — grey car normally, and did not believe, that will show photos of tin)))

Diesel, especially a modern, idling without much success to warm from 8.00 to 21.00.

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Turja 27.07.19

well, dead or not, it is not know if the statistics will not be collected. personally, I warm up for 5 minutes, it's enough that the engine is warmed up 30-40 degrees and the oven started to blow warm.

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Slavomir 27.07.19

Turja

Than the current the motor is different, say from the Soviet? Early metal, and now plastic? In old cars there was no electronics, which could adjust the fuel mixture depending on the condition of the motor (heat/cold), but the engine design as was, and remained. All these "warm on the go" this is a war for your wallet. Ala, come on the engine will kill, faster new buy, the plant will work, mechanic work, the economy is to grow. Sounds stupid as the theory of a global conspiracy, but the scale of the global automotive industry make billions. P. S. Industrial engineering 2015/2016 release, the manual spelled out always warm up before operating. I don't think there ice a special "industrial" design. The principle of operation is the same as everywhere

Hey, well I did not know this and was able 30 minutes to warm up the car. It was freezing cold, God forbid warmed up to 70. So maybe it's bad on the go to warm up, but made it so did it on the go. Not going to do on the go, kerdyk engine will come earlier)

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Cavemann 27.07.19

absolute nonsense
modern engines and more reliable and more environmentally friendly. Warming up to operating temperature in the twentieth century — is a perversion

not reliable, not environmentally friendly. The quality of the emissions of co and other kompensiruet number. Ie engines are also eco-friendly exhaust, but have it very much. if the motor is economical, then it is reached lower the idle, lean the mixture( because of this hard work even Maybach, everyday I see a new one, now the truth is not Maybach and Mercedes), liquid oil (0w-20)and other minimalismi of the engine quickly dies, begins to eat this oil, is dying. Production of the new engine is not very environmentally friendly, but we don't see it, it's somewhere out there, far away. But we round the damage to nature, no less than before

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somebody 27.07.19

well, actually there is

with regards to warming up — I also stick to the first option, only instead of a cigarette clean off snow or wipe optics

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Turja 27.07.19

there is no concept of a "modern engine", it was invented by marketers. Over heating Yes operating temperature, here is a little update. It usually no one does, because in the cold it can take up to half an hour. But look out the window on a frosty morning, one had a smoke, sat down went. the other had gone. Personally, I lean to the first option.

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somebody 27.07.19

Turja

Than the current the motor is different, say from the Soviet? Early metal, and now plastic? In old cars there was no electronics, which could adjust the fuel mixture depending on the condition of the motor (heat/cold), but the engine design as was, and remained. All these "warm on the go" this is a war for your wallet. Ala, come on the engine will kill, faster new buy, the plant will work, mechanic work, the economy is to grow. Sounds stupid as the theory of a global conspiracy, but the scale of the global automotive industry make billions. P. S. Industrial engineering 2015/2016 release, the manual spelled out always warm up before operating. I don't think there ice a special "industrial" design. The principle of operation is the same as everywhere

absolute nonsense
modern engines and more reliable and more environmentally friendly. Warming up to operating temperature in the twentieth century — is a perversion

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Cavemann 27.07.19

master2603

In any manual for any modern auto — down warm-up — go without allowing excessive engine loads. Warm-up will decrease almost to the twentieth 20-30 degrees.
I do not advocate riding without warming up — he will go after full warm-up of the submarine car, and even after 5-10 min. rattling at idle — warm-Bank automatic.
By the way — in the old Soviet cylinders mirror without scratching it was considered ideal, now require traces of hon.
And what about the theory — the manufacturer is unprofitable to produce eternal car, although in principle almost possible. But then in 10 years it will close. Therefore modern designed plastic jars for 7-10 years, then fall to such amounts that it is easier to buy a new car :-)

Was considered in handicraft workshops with illiterate mechanics. Hon is needed to keep the oil film from the factory and it has always been. When the same motor sharpened thought that it scraped and cleaned them up to the mirror, once again, from technical ignorance.

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somebody 27.07.19

and thus will kill the motor

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master2603 27.07.19

In any manual for any modern auto — down warm-up — go without allowing excessive engine loads. Warm-up will decrease almost to the twentieth 20-30 degrees.
I do not advocate riding without warming up — he will go after full warm-up of the submarine car, and even after 5-10 min. rattling at idle — warm-Bank automatic.
By the way — in the old Soviet cylinders mirror without scratching it was considered ideal, now require traces of hon.
And what about the theory — the manufacturer is unprofitable to produce eternal car, although in principle almost possible. But then in 10 years it will close. Therefore modern designed plastic jars for 7-10 years, then fall to such amounts that it is easier to buy a new car :-)

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Turja 27.07.19

master2603

Nobody cancelled the heating of the motor. Only in modern cars warm up this possible "on the fly", and in older cars was provided "on the spot". Over the hill by the way because of the environment it is introduced. Tinted front Windows in some States are allowed — otherwise the sun will heat the cabin, and the owner will have to wait for cooling of the interior air conditioning, harming the environment. In short, we do not understand :)))

Than the current the motor is different, say from the Soviet? Early metal, and now plastic? In old cars there was no electronics, which could adjust the fuel mixture depending on the condition of the motor (heat/cold), but the engine design as was, and remained. All these "warm on the go" this is a war for your wallet. Ala, come on the engine will kill, faster new buy, the plant will work, mechanic work, the economy is to grow. Sounds stupid as the theory of a global conspiracy, but the scale of the global automotive industry make billions. P. S. Industrial engineering 2015/2016 release, the manual spelled out always warm up before operating. I don't think there ice a special "industrial" design. The principle of operation is the same as everywhere

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master2603 27.07.19

Diesels are not tightly familiar with, so nod his head silently :)))

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jesterby 27.07.19

on diesels at idle badly burnt mixture and therefore even recommend the rpm about 2 thousand to keep when traveling

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master2603 27.07.19

Nobody cancelled the heating of the motor. Only in modern cars warm up this possible "on the fly", and in older cars was provided "on the spot". Over the hill by the way because of the environment it is introduced. Tinted front Windows in some States are allowed — otherwise the sun will heat the cabin, and the owner will have to wait for cooling of the interior air conditioning, harming the environment. In short, we do not understand :)))

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beback 27.07.19

Between the piston and the walls of the cylinder, between the connecting rod and the crankshaft, between the fingers and pistons between camshaft/crankshaft and bearings.
When heated, metal expands when cooled decreases, and everything except water. All these gaps are designed to work at 90 degrees.

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Slavomir 27.07.19

And if a more simple language? What kind of thermal gaps?

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beback 27.07.19

Slavomir

Now the machines are doing warming up impossible, if not warm weather.

In short the trick, you should at least two minutes to warm engine oil to lubricate, and then immediately go to quickly warm up. That is, when standing, the harm to the engine more than when you go ;)

Thermal gaps calculated on the operating temperature as the oil. Physics has not been canceled.

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OBD-II 27.07.19

Oh I don't know whether you are right on all hundred. My dad drives a Camry of 2008, has passed 250,000 km, changed timing belt, cover clean any soot, I think it all depends on who and how to produce the engines, and the rest is just life examples

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Cavemann 27.07.19

OBD-II

really? and what's the harm when it?

Valve and cylinders are cleaned of soot at high speeds and temperature. At idle, formed coke, secureusa candles, valve, etc. So you need a city car(mostly tubes) sometimes spin(rpm) force on the track, Overdrive enable, or not higher than third on the mechanics to drive a few km at high speed(at least 3-4 thousand revs)

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Pelikan10rus 27.07.19

Well, I just came across the article...and it says that no-load operation(aka engine idle) is bad for you.

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OBD-II 27.07.19

so the opposite is good

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Pelikan10rus 27.07.19

OBD-II

really? and what's the harm when it?

Because the motor no-load running.

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OBD-II 27.07.19

then Yes I agree))) waiting for the opinion of the author

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Slavomir 27.07.19

No

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OBD-II 27.07.19

and you're not the author of the post?

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Slavomir 27.07.19

You start me on a path where I can only EKAT)))

Can anyone else see the discussion and will continue

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OBD-II 27.07.19

but oil is not very fast greatsea? let's take the automatic transmission out there all of the oil and its properties depends on the work box, even the same wear of the friction different

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Slavomir 27.07.19

The fight for the environment, I think. Over the hill is not the car to warm up more than two minutes, or kill, or drive, like a decent fines for standing with the included engine.
Well, as an extra incentive to the drivers — bad warm-up, standing.

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OBD-II 27.07.19

Yes)) I am from Bati about warming up learned. okay but why warming up is not possible for a modern car?

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Slavomir 27.07.19

I can't explain, because they do not have the necessary vocabulary on this topic. Let me just say, this topic I was going through and spoke with lots of people. I also was not clear, as the manual says that it is not necessary, when for centuries warmed up, on the jig, the suction was cut.

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OBD-II 27.07.19

really? and what's the harm when it?

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Slavomir 27.07.19

Now the machines are doing warming up impossible, if not warm weather.

In short the trick, you should at least two minutes to warm engine oil to lubricate, and then immediately go to quickly warm up. That is, when standing, the harm to the engine more than when you go ;)

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OBD-II 27.07.19

I'm all talked — grey car normally, and did not believe, that will show photos of tin)))

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ALL4SWAP 27.07.19

Taganka

It's just trouble with our short trips, like work-house, the constant sticking out in traffic at idle... and no par value...
Any engine just need dolnack., once a week., at least an hour or 2-3 on the road., a little above average revs., then he proseries and all this shit just burns...
Without dannaca., the car just grows dull and withers., it's the law...

COP — yeah, and the fact that in the intake — not going away

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short-circuit 27.07.19

well XS. For me, the very ideology usr — nonsense, which is put in favor of the green mafia. 10 cents rule. Unfortunately, it is not always possible to do.

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Car1s0n 27.07.19

short circuit

yeah, I agree. Moreover, control of EGR may be very stupid and brainless
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The curd R5 EGR is controlled SIMILARLY. And what's the comic situation?
Simple, completely reliable system that does not need more crutches.
Yes, it is not as accurate and are very dependent on fuel quality.
But! This is not a flaw in the design!

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Vlad0380 27.07.19

Health.

Do not rule out that European products are all very different.

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short-circuit 27.07.19

wow, what fears
didn't know, thanks for the info

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Vlad0380 27.07.19

Create ventilation in the flow, that is from the factory, to the street '01-'04 Duramax, ...'05 Cummins, at least half of the 7.3 Powerstroke. Zero problems except a small oil deposits in the vicinity of the exit ventilation — in the case of my, a little to the right and above the crankshaft pulley. This practice stopped not because the oil from something leaking, but because the environmentalists have started to stink.

6.0 fordigital differs structurally a large amount of blow-by gases with a high content of oil. Bring the hose under the car behind the cabin (smell have a 6.0 from the vent — p-TS) or use Melpomene (proprietary, expensive) — a matter of taste. The main thing is to stop feeding the diesel oil suspension and to macrophomina at the bottom of the frame under the cab (under the hood there is no place) to freeze in the cold — then just seals povyletali.

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short-circuit 27.07.19

Vlad0380

The reason is more in the presence of EGR.
That's why I say the owners of the Big Three diesels — turn off this shit and turn off in the firmware. And air vents in Melpomene or just into the atmosphere.
Once the oil ceases to blacken through 400km after replacement, and turbine oil droplets not knock — beauty...
You can Smoke Tune and in some cases washed down conveniently hybrids in the stream to choke )))

but the "crankcase ventilation — on the street" is a clumsy kalhoz in the style of "50 years without harvest"
in the cavities of the engine it is necessary to maintain vacuum. If it is not (the hose on the street, yeah), the oil will shove with all the cracks

and the blow-by gas does not foul the intake, you have to put the oil separator dust, and let the blow-by gas through the air filter of the internal combustion engine, not past him, as it made the staff (see BJ 7s)

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Konstantin-D 27.07.19

Black-Light

well, works fine, rushing is fine, no errors

How much $ for such a repair?

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VladleN93 27.07.19

I'm at nine so go:D

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Alkozavr 27.07.19

But yelling "Car, the Benz lay only Yes ride"...

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Visa2006 27.07.19

Yeah, piece of work... was all messed up — the result is great !

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Black-Light 27.07.19

no, it's private

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Wood 27.07.19

The machine is not in service? Could idle for days drive.

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propshaft 27.07.19

The horror! :))

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Onkel-X 27.07.19

Those who know how, then Yes, but there is not enough.
We have it sverhpredelna, if you find, then immediately 3 of the article.
failure to pay tax, since the rate from the hazards of the exhaust depends,
riding without a licence to operate,
ie driving without insurance, and this is a crime, ie the minimum disqualification and straw, who is not lucky that time

3 times think whether or not to bother, although the chance of sleeping a minimum

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propshaft 27.07.19

Ahh, here it Cho. Then Yes.
And that, in Germany too, they are castrated? :))

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Onkel-X 27.07.19

It without the usr does not regenerate, so embedded in the ECU

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propshaft 27.07.19

A particle for what? It is without EGR intact.

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Onkel-X 27.07.19

this is not soot from working in the not-heated mode. Soot just originally conceived that would not pass 1000000 on this motor. Mechanical motors are still perfectly designed. There is one but they are killed by the Usr in conjunction with esteystvenno wear and tear of the turbine. EGR puts exhaust gases into the intake manifold, where they mix with malapuram from the turbine, which after 100,000 km always misses a little oil. All this stuff puts the motor as in the pictures. And it is not 100,000 km, so it is possible to succeed over 3000 km with dead EGR, which is not tightly closes under load. My solution, just turn off the EGR, if there is a particulate filter, n...th it, and the adaptation of the ECU for this. According to another modern diesel long ride can not.

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OldNiver 27.07.19

RKorolev

fuck your PP! pile up the Field

you talking to me ?

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whiteshadow23 27.07.19

It seems that You are first time diesel saw... nothing supernatural. Even at my barn, the picture was similar to killing the usr. And the reason is not lack of warm-up, and the engine idle with the usr.

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whiteshadow23 27.07.19

Ten thousand one

So the climate is heat from the engine takes, and he's cold to warm up! )

I have too long heats the engine.

Remote start need to be set and the problem with the cold will disappear.

diesel, by definition it is not possible to warm up in the cold at -20 all the idling to warm up... so for diesels, and use the Webasto heating on the go...

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DIGITAL92 27.07.19

set "clock" to the salon. and that's all. it will be hot

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10001 27.07.19

There is a Hairdryer. Heating coil placed in the air ducts.

But then quickly die battery! )

These warmups additionally put in expensive cars, type for absolute comfort, even in a cold car after it goes instantly started to go warm the air, or in low-power small-displacement cars, like diesel 1.2 liters, which is just not able to warm up the cabin in the winter, and have further to incorporate an electric heater. )

In electric cars, too, so heated, because there is no longer anything to take the heat. So in the winter your batteries run low much faster. )

Actually, as I understand it, such cold as we have, there is almost nowhere.

The Scandinavians are all washed by the warm currents in Europe generally mild winters.

In Canada and Alaska just the same cold.

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FEL68 27.07.19

Well, maybe there's some battery climate control)
Yes, the launch is a fairy tale)

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10001 27.07.19

So the climate is heat from the engine takes, and he's cold to warm up! )

I have too long heats the engine.

Remote start need to be set and the problem with the cold will disappear.

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FEL68 27.07.19

Warming up not more than two minutes. This is how much hair should grow on the ass, that at -30 in a few minutes, that ass on the seat to seat?! All hope for a heated steering wheel and seats? Duck in the cabin all the same cold... Unless, of course, no climate control, which constantly keeps the temperature in the cabin...)

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Lapinho 27.07.19

Offer You to evaluate the performance of mercedes engines om605-606))isuzu seems a terrible noise, and what is, in my opinion.

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Lavrinenko86 27.07.19

brickk

the problem is that you cheated and the whole, "progressive" Europe.
the trouble is that this common care about the health of the grandchildren they (producers + ecologists) so went into marketing and making money, that original goal has remained only words.
At the moment, the problem is that the motors are on so much shit that are dying for another warranty runs from all the big three. While actively chewing and otpravlyaya into the atmosphere tons of oil, which happily guzzle.
The real struggle for the environment ended with the installation of a distributed ignition of the two phase shifters and a catalyst. I.e. somewhere in the area of Euro-2. all other europebuy already from the evil one, in order to ecologists earned their grants, and public relations, and the producers got an excuse to make cars worse and worse.
It's like megacolony Primus, in the manufacture of batteries for which the environment is suffering so that the whole eco-friendliness of the Prius is eroding. And here. The motor barely works, but megacalories in a test environment. Then the motor in actual operation begins to fall apart, showering the environment with burnt oil, soot and other elements.
Divorce is all. Under good cover.

You are absolutely right .

Give my opinion, personally owned two diesels one totota liteace engine 2-ct ' 91 isuzu trooper 4JB1-TC 2.8 91, so that after these machines when I hear a modern chevrolet duramax with its counterparts, huyndai, bmw x, mercedes runs down my cheek avaricious man's tears are terrible.

Personally, I think the benchmark of how to work isuzu engine, 25 years later is smoothly, the car can stand for half a year and then wind up with sex trafficking.
I think the modern technology of diesel engines with Common Rail neotitanium technology, 10 years will pass and does the advantage of diesel is unpretentious reduce, reduce the degree of compression and all the power not the cost of ownership is high. And even after 10 years, forget about it.

By the way, and the last scandal, which was in Africa, showed that all the modern technology in the vehicle structure, and in particular, VW is far from perfect. www.drive2.ru/b/2400835/

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somebody 27.07.19

Black-Light

stoked not warm up and short trip to the city

How can that be the reason for this amount of soot?

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mihey86rus 27.07.19

it's a Mercedes, Cooley it to heat! )))))

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Cavemann 27.07.19

In Germany, sits and knocks.

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No-fate 27.07.19

lexa1515

no wonder the Germans were forbidden to warm up the car)

Well, grandma is sitting with the phone and knocks at the police hto there is warming more than 2 minutes? Right now, the ball is interesting - what for car to look at, migrants around, don't Rob so fucked and the police will not come:)

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Jocontacter 27.07.19

It was possible to SodaBlasting to give instead of having chemistry. however, with hidden cavities, of course, lainee.

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NexDBD 27.07.19

My Department with the SsangYong Rexton affixed, diesel. They the MB engines don't know which series, so it does not get hot at idle at all. You can at least two days to stand. First even freaked out until I said it was fine. I travel on it regularly

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Black-Light 27.07.19

undoubtedly, there would be usr-this would not be grime, but we serve a large number of different diesel cars, and where drivers warm and burn them normally carbon build-up in reservoirs is small, and cleaning is not required

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NexDBD 27.07.19

The cause is still largely in the valve E, all the same. I think so!

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propshaft 27.07.19

Usr hellish evil, PPC.

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Vladimirr0n 27.07.19

The author's position stated just above. Because of her dispute with n1tronick arose.

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JARIK-DICTATOR 27.07.19

but why not disable it?

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Vladimirr0n 27.07.19

He disconnected the EGR, which this soot slowly in the intake throws.

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JARIK-DICTATOR 27.07.19

n1tronick

The same private as yours or you have the status of a God and all your conclusions are axiomatic? Then where the hell are we mere mortals to you. Just do not think that my experience as much as you and maybe more will be there this worse and may even score a soot collector so that it except at the XX on the other modes will not work. And flap on the rows in the motor fly it because of this fucking shit from the egra and the firm which invented and implemented the usr said that Yes it kills the motor but it reduces the oxide content remaining the same-read in the exhaust and the green is more important than the motor and we got the green light.
But there are times where God and guru diesels said that everything is clearly so clearly! Plant something bad is going to put it?)))

and that was not done? or not completed to the end?

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Black-Light 27.07.19

I did not say that the plant does perfectly, I don't support a lot of good supporters, I'm just saying what I see every day

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n1tronick 27.07.19

The same private as yours or you have the status of a God and all your conclusions are axiomatic? Then where the hell are we mere mortals to you. Just do not think that my experience as much as you and maybe more will be there this worse and may even score a soot collector so that it except at the XX on the other modes will not work. And flap on the rows in the motor fly it because of this fucking shit from the egra and the firm which invented and implemented the usr said that Yes it kills the motor but it reduces the oxide content remaining the same-read in the exhaust and the green is more important than the motor and we got the green light.
But there are times where God and guru diesels said that everything is clearly so clearly! Plant something bad is going to put it?)))

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Black-Light 27.07.19

there will not be perfectly clean, but not this yr, and this is proven fact, proven repeatedly, to argue and prove your point will not, but it's already proven, we went through a considerable number of diesel cars, including Mercedes, so your conclusions-just a personal opinion

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n1tronick 27.07.19

well, this is not a record at the expense of the number of soot really don't see the point in this cleaning if everything was in stock, egry which continue to feed the engine with soot or do you think that when the motor is well heated then everything is perfectly clean?)))
After 20-40 tons and then there will be the same but if the turbo more and the oil will be a little bit more to start up then there will be soot mixed with oil will be even more fun painting. In General, I'm sorry but the monkey work this work can't call. It would be cool if it was in the late agri muted car altered along the way another cut if there is soot or kata then Yes the post was sensible and so ... dead poultices

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EngineerDaVlad 27.07.19

Flugi

I think that the problem is not in warm-UPS, and the usr. After these photos, take the diesel is not desirable, not only is that more expensive than the petrol version and the cost of 1 to 1 with 95m modern diesel consume 10-15% more diesel. It is not critical, but there are no problems with warming up the winter fuel.

now and benzinga is the EGR valve and it also breaks. and also have to clean the intake.

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n1tronick 27.07.19

Need to take fuel just after purchase you should clean out the whole intake to kill the EGR soot and kata to flash otdushi and ride and enjoy a great traction and low expense!
Doing so for many years and for me, only diesel and only Smok Nou Nou fan))

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Flugi 27.07.19

I think that the problem is not in warm-UPS, and the usr. After these photos, take the diesel is not desirable, not only is that more expensive than the petrol version and the cost of 1 to 1 with 95m modern diesel consume 10-15% more diesel. It is not critical, but there are no problems with warming up the winter fuel.

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AHTOHSTI 27.07.19

Don't even know if I saw in life something harder))

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dimal965 27.07.19

Somewhere moving engineering in engine... Not these modern engines are of course the rod and economically, while the new... But then... These crumbling strip and razmoyutsya fitting... Here take some engine the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, or 70's well, because normally did, with a good margin. Oil of course was not a fountain, but a piece of iron the educated and gaskets. And now this shit with plastic everywhere... And he is after some time in the dust!

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Futsen 27.07.19

b4rt-s

Very good smokes faulty diesel. When it's almost no bloat.

Yes, smokes, smokes so that is subject to the strictest environmental standards.
I do not see many who appreciate a more expensive piece of hardware than your health.

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DIGITAL92 27.07.19

twist the motor is not necessary. but riding slowly is much better than thresh at idle. And thermal gaps come I a minute. the fuel that is burning. What about the other places not as warm. But low oil pressure in the system much worse. + turbine has the disadvantage that is spitting oil at idle

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Killuminatu 27.07.19

well, at least something will be than the same at high rpm. the parts motor also have operating temperature. and it should be achieved that all worked fine. loading the engine until it is warmed up, metal expanded, the gaps were not acceptable not correct. (this is my first argument). Well, you do not mind that instant fuel consumption is not the engine is warm, after the fall of speed is 1.1 l/h (example for my 1.8 TSI of SDA), and heated 0.7 l/h Is 50% more than the norm. personally, I think that there is "something" and so could not go. in stories about "warms up the catalyst" I do not believe, because the revs have already fallen. (my second argument)

PS

technical and engineering education does not have all the arguments on the eyes

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Futsen 27.07.19

What? Makaniem at low pressure of cold oil and Purdy in nature?

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Killuminatu 27.07.19

why so radical to do? Diesel I never had. A goal of a 5 minute warm up at 0 degrees is clearly behind a better world Cup just wait until the recession revs up to 700-800 and go.

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Futsen 27.07.19

Killuminatu

"The reason for the formation of such quantities of soot-driving on a cold engine" that's in masses, and then there are pundits who claim that to heat the motor is not necessary

To stand a half hour to fart every trip, what would ned God's not cleaned once in 200 tyk run the intake?
And this merc would leak antifreeze and then ran. )
But "engineers are stupid"!

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Bulgarrin 27.07.19

Strelnieks

People Smoking next to you, more harm is caused by your lungs, and plants of all sorts which are to your mother for benen mother as landfills where stupidly burn the trash, so no need there mega ecologist to put

Offtopic, why are Smoking next does more harm Smoking?))) nerves Smoking?-Yes, it is possible! but then suddenly a puff from the exhaust pipe is cleaner finding a meter away from her?))

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Strelnieks 27.07.19

you do not lower your gasoline poisoning, so not Lala

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Futsen 27.07.19

Yeah, let's add to the smoker/plants/landfills and even farting car.
I beat you three, come on and fourth, it is in fact beat.
Nastsali in the Elevator — let's all piss there, it is because someone stsyt.
And let's Poo in the Elevator — all the same because stsut.
Logic PPC.

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Strelnieks 27.07.19

People Smoking next to you, more harm is caused by your lungs, and plants of all sorts which are to your mother for benen mother as landfills where stupidly burn the trash, so no need there mega ecologist to put

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Futsen 27.07.19

Strelnieks

on the street, well, obviously not in the motor

in the lungs.
Enough to pray to the iron, nothing will become.

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Black-Light 27.07.19

went whether a Mercedes is better? Yes, on the order of

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Futsen 27.07.19

Black-Light

and went, soared, there is such breed of people-riders

So he felt the difference? And was there a difference?

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Black-Light 27.07.19

but such an outlier that all the advantages are negated

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ALEXTHQ 27.07.19

Yes, it has long been clear that the future for electric motors. This area is just not particularly developed for the last 100 years. And if it developed then went silent on the almost environmentally friendly cars. All emissions to the atmosphere purely in production.

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Andrei-J 27.07.19

Tin!

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akppluboyvopros 27.07.19

Good as they say the car loves affection cleanliness and lubrication I like this approach and what you write below is only envy, it is much easier for client money to learn anything.

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Saint-P 27.07.19

Yes it is a tin simply! it is commendable that cleaned and washed!)))

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somebody 27.07.19

To get, shuddered

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Black-Light 27.07.19

the word quality is not synonymous with Mercedes alas

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Onetwos 27.07.19

Black-Light

no longer new, 07год all the same, and wiring because of the quality

My dad had a GL with the 642 diesel 80 tkm lost compression machine 11 quality longer something)

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BULL500 27.07.19

What De PT m on and where it goes. Are you talking about?

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sandron 27.07.19

BULL500

I have a Mercedes 98goda. But I have no such problems. The GL quality really leaves much to be desired

You must not have EGR valve through which not all this crap back into the motor gets.

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BULL500 27.07.19

Maybe you're right.

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Black-Light 27.07.19

why change the normal reliable boar, new gl, it is certainly your business, but listen to the woman in the car in my stupid questions

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BULL500 27.07.19

I understand of course. But I go on it since 2004. Already wife's howling, that it is necessary to change the machine, but I don't know. GL was considered as an option. But if that is the case then I don't know. I bottomely GL revered. And there is really nothing to write.Who mud flaps set himself who labels new buy. Edinstveno saw the replacement of the intake collector, and pnevmoballony fly at all. Well, this issue is solved, set and forget. But if these are the problems as you described . Then it is ass.

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Black-Light 27.07.19

BULL500

I have a Mercedes 98goda. But I have no such problems. The GL quality really leaves much to be desired

And the boar your real machine, of the last real quality of Mercier, with Mercier not a fan, but the boar really cool

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Black-Light 27.07.19

get used to it, the quality of everything new around us is poor, cars are no exception

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BULL500 27.07.19

I have a Mercedes 98goda. But I have no such problems. The GL quality really leaves much to be desired

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Black-Light 27.07.19

no longer new, 07год all the same, and wiring because of the quality

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BULL500 27.07.19

Is the priest. This is a new car. And what to say about our boars. Well, the fact that so much of sludge due to the drive not the engine is warm I read. And posting what rots?

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Black-Light 27.07.19

not specified

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Magich09 27.07.19

The vehicle refuel at gas stations or tested as necessary?

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BLACKRUT 27.07.19

Bort013

why I looked at this sheet before going to sleep))

The horror of the tractor)

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Black-Light 27.07.19

pleasant dreams)

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Bort013 27.07.19

why I looked at this sheet before going to sleep))

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Black-Light 27.07.19

first, very, very dirty)

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slav-kaa 27.07.19

the net work!))

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BLACKRUT 27.07.19

Druman879

I look to the side 642 of the motor.
He has such a terrific speaker.
I read and now don't know what to think. .

642 motor I also like

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Black-Light 27.07.19

well we have a couple of Viano on these motors, so far only one replacement gasket heat exchanger needed

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Druman879 27.07.19

I look to the side 642 of the motor.
He has such a terrific speaker.
I read and now don't know what to think. .

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bobaleh 27.07.19

I think the owner acasual from the dynamics of acceleration when you clean)

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NIKVAK 27.07.19

I wrote why more economical.low revs high gear reduced detonation in this mode due to the EGR flow rate is a minimum, the mix computer in this optimal mode is not rich ... But of course the dynamics will not disperse, only after the closure of the usr and turn clutch vvti in the area of 3,000 and above-something you can feel. Maybe I'm wrong but my observations lead to the conclusion of some fuel economy when operating the usr will bednim mixture and reduce detonation gases not poznanie of ignition timing.

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b4rt-s 27.07.19

will not be economical, who told you this heresy ?

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NIKVAK 27.07.19

Pictures is terrible of course.the machine with the usr, and how many are now, and only a small goal. First time removing the manifold was surprised the adhering soot on the walls, the valves, though not in such quantity, but still enough to upset. But I approve of this Pribluda ! The bottom line is that the engine of my car may be more economical to work with an open EGR valve to 3000 rpm, and this is just a pensioner's drive to the city and highway, than when the automatic transmission is configured so that the fourth gear is engaged at 1500 rpm.the engine, even in a small rise and detonation is almost non-existent, you can just press the gas pedal and on the same program I don't hear a wild knock gasoline 92. Engine the hr15de Tiida. All is good, but the fact of zasilania intake just kills, clean there, all for the average driver the whole problem, and the capacity and environmental performance is becoming worse...have diesel engines so all help!

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Rulevoi-Dieselok 27.07.19

well done colleagues

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WeirdM 27.07.19

with direct injection and the turbine is the same hnya, and gasoline...

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w126AMG 27.07.19

The engine is cold? Nifiga.
The quality of diesel fuel, most likely.

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kachran 27.07.19

Black-Light

Gemorno and expensive, and under normal warm-up there is practically no soot-and it all flies into the cylinders

It is neither gemorno and inexpensive! www.drive2.ru/o/b/2319412/ and, for clarity, the usr with teploobmennika www.instagram.com/p/BLKGNxYgsN8/. Specifically, my friend did everything on the Ford Kuga 2.0 TDI (www.instagram.com/p/BNo-XRyjITK/) — accent, catalyst, removing particulate and put downpipe. Removed the EGR with teploobmennika + flashed. And I went through all the consumables in the engine for 160ткм wall of the inlet as saligram was smeared. Sent from Makhachkala-Dagestan to Moscow!

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Aslaha 27.07.19

That's why I don't like the diesel, at one point all this pseudoname bubble in the fuel becomes cancer

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vtkmaas 27.07.19

Black-Light

no, a good European diesel fuel, he's just not warmed it, sat down, got and went, and so it is impossible-because a cold diesel chadit and throws soot through the EGR into the intake

Reprogram is not to blame here and diesel fuel is even more so. All this is a consequence of the operation of the EGR, the mixing of say from exhaust of oil from the crankcase ventilation, excessive deposition on the elements of the intake and on the valves. Turn off your EGR and intake will have you clean.

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vtkmaas 27.07.19

dimok-b4

Well, here does not agree. I'm on my diesel sit, start, 3 minutes and food. No soot and pominat not, and never was. Soot only not correctly adjusted mothra. the diesel properly working no soot. And it's all just soot from the EGR. Most he has long been muted and absolutely don't have n, and leads to such results.

Here is support.

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vtkmaas 27.07.19

dimok-b4

Well, here does not agree. I'm on my diesel sit, start, 3 minutes and food. No soot and pominat not, and never was. Soot only not correctly adjusted mothra. the diesel properly working no soot. And it's all just soot from the EGR. Most he has long been muted and absolutely don't have n, and leads to such results.

Here is support.

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Black-Light 27.07.19

Here fresh: ssang yong actyon sports, stalled, "master" decided to remove the cylinder head! Nuqui? If the problem is blown and the fuel pump all clogged with shavings

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nikolaym4 27.07.19

"Got to repair trehsharnirnye German beast GL 420 CDI V8 BITURBO, ОМ629 , drain антbфриза to this third-party "master" changed the pump and did not notice that she is not to blame, and the gasket under temperature-controlled valve, VCG, there is a gasket just rotted and crumbled, but the wizard didn't notice and changed the pump," Damn, after all from such "masters" does not Beregis, because the road is "squeeze" and go to the nearest one HUNDRED