Many different lamps vs light sphere (+measurements of xenon for reversing)

Notable actress )))

Voice at 34 seconds happy))))

No, I'm in the new Riga, fuck this Moscow :)
Mon will be in the center. At work :)

Okay, I believe =)
You're in the center (Moscow) Senya-tomorrow will not?

Cyberman

Cho normal xene was not measured? =)

Dim, I don't have it easy.
This is also not mine, gave up after installing my lights, which it waved.

Yes... I, in General, and himself expected, to be honest, much more :)

Well, as if it were not, the mantle that still : )

That's, like...
Everywhere labecki "15W HID".

In this fact, I asked, just across the Ala set for reverse, and was like the usual xenon, both noname and Hawali order 30ватт +/- 2ватта

The last xenon for reversing. What type :)
Type 15 Watt, not 35 as usual.

In reality, there are 30 Watt, according to the consumption.

And the last video of unusual xenon?

Cho normal xene was not measured? =)

From the sounds of roller neighing)))

Thank enthusiasts led light:)))

For the first time learned that there is a xenon for reversing )

well, it's only for you))

Fees wait, there's a chance that they will in a week.
They are in production.
I didn't want to pay twice for urgency, so ordered ladymom 3-4 weeks.
Although now, it seems that the download is almost there and doing everything early.

And then wonder why the negative terminal Grenada)
To me at the time, even before you suggested xenon in reverse to put it. I the idea was rejected then), And rightly so I think)
When tumanami done?)

Well, something like that :)
Just been a lot of controversy of the "xenon in the back is cheap and shines for the cool"...
It shines yeah, good idea, but only if you wait 1.5 minutes.

As it turned out, the brightness is equal to stock bulb, it only comes out in 15 seconds.
I honestly thought myself, that would be much better...
You consumption look — there's a 30 Watt in fact.

Ahahaa) 1200 lumens after a minute and a half) i.e., I want to go back, include reverse (for example at night, or in winter) and wait for a minute and a half to get even cheto see it)) yeah))
Thank you, neighing))

It's in the next series ))

Need to throw the bra into the fondue!)))))

Thanks again for the light))
The sounds in the video pleased, looking forward to the new series =)

thanks for the interesting post.Pressed the buttons, let the fans Kitaiskih diodes and xenon in SX will calm down finally

not the lamp is a separate issue and a different radio

The lamp does not come on, switched to radio)))

So I'm wondering to go with diodes nicer than Xen, especially in wet weather but I wonder what the device is expensive. I schA the receiver is still engaged in

Well, I came will check and return, no question.

But I think at best 3000 lumens there.
If you're lucky. But frankly, I doubt it. I have SX 3000 lumens — heating childish, to put it mildly, 5-10 minutes to. And the fins are not much less than yours.

Damn well how not mwedit I have tunaca optics under Xen is Xen MTF, respectively, with flasks Phillips gave 10K but those diodes are shining brighter and further I do not understand but that's not the point check your device how much they give for me if not difficult

Well, you throw here a photo of STG the wall 5 and 20 meters.
And at night along the wall in parallel.

Everything else is in favor of the poor.
About what to take a picture of ANY light you like NEED think, no need to explain.

PS
The Americans on HID Planet have been buying some of these lamps :) There is a related. Choate enthusiasm was not... the verdict is "stupid as far to blink, because they do not Shine."

I have a lot of reviews and STG norm, I is not empty words say there are a lot of videos. There is a drain xenon for both Saki loses, what's the halogen... halogen there like a candle

Well, I'm glad no one was burned. So you can safely take.

How he's used can't say. The working temperature is in any case on the verge of health STG no no.
So not matter how many lumens it gives out there is a useless thing that is guaranteed blind, and as guaranteed losing the stock halogen.
Not so long ago people on these lamps in the far laid out bimshoty — there is more than frankly it is all visible.
So to pay for this "good" for 5 000 I don't know...

liar that burned))) while no one was burned I have it from the first day and they have hundreds more who she is already and your friend burned))) well, if the other pictures and used not on purpose then maybe Yes ))) no offense

Uncle, I don't kiesow, you just did not realize even close to what I write :) No offense.

First, Fluke is also sold on Ali, like many other brands, it shows nothing.
Secondly I design a diode light from the driver to the optics, not just sell Chinese rattles, so I know maybe more of you :)
So your light I'm testing in the industrial areas included in the examination. Incidentally, they have also Chinese and also sold on Ali for $ 100,000.
Indicators practically do not differ. Industrial just calibrated better, but the difference in 3-5% is not critical for my purposes.

Thirdly it is examples, my lamp is more powerful and functional than your Chinese junk, and Shine stronger. To measure them I will.
The interest was to test what is at hand and that people basically take.

Biglove on your link without STG and all the rest will not buy even. I lay a couple but I gave it away and it quickly burned.

Not kipish sold by Ali and Tao means China let brand and the certificate and in the metro to buy. so it's not an indicator
It is not in your flask do a sweep. lamp test you then spent some of Loches.th not a serious cheap lamps and showed that LEDs are bad you potestate really powerful which is good

Judging by your phrases:

"While this bulb one more China"
"Well the field of your luminometer"

The issue in the field. Or is that not you wrote? :))

I very interesting to learn the facts, come on.
Maybe true people who years release equipment — foot Fuckers :)
Fluke, apparently, also "one China"? :) He is also there.

The question is not in the field

Well, first is Taiwan, although not essential, and secondly it is certified at least in Europe. Well, the manufacturer is quite well known and tested in the "profile" circles.

You what specific FACTS about the claim "that China"?

Well, the scope of your luminometer

"Bulb" is that?

Although the bulb that is still China

Not. Red/red:)

Gosh, sorry, download 100 500%.
This week, I think we can take it.
I remember correctly, you need a red/red? Or the Blinker is still human make, orange? :)

Neighing with xenon:) when the lamps will be for me:) itching to put them:)

Camry in two blocks of Chinese stood. And the Hilux had to put the OEM because only one lantern.

OEM unit to put in reverse, it's hard)

I'm still on the Camry compared the conventional Chinese 35 xenon and what sells mtf 15 for reversing. In the same two cars and put compared. 35 tearing light 15 shines like a regular bulb ))) but both of them burned long. And the Oem unit and OSRAM lamp almost immediately full flow were given, but of course the price tag ...

Well, it is a fact, Yes, but I doubt that the difference will be 30 times :) Well, the price tag will also be different, about this speech.

Huge difference in lamps and ballasts

So the 15 watt in fact consume the same 30! What's the difference if the maximum illumination will be achieved at once?! To turn back and wait?

Because it is necessary to put not 15 watt, and the normal 35, but only if there is a space for heat dissipation. And 15w is known that does not Shine

Video with sound made neighing!)
From Xenon "ass" didn't expect this! Why everyone likes it, if nothing from him?!)
Recall please what is the brightness from DRL probright vs yours?

Well as a steal for the head, make and head, no question ))))

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Because R&D optics this topic would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The Chinese already steal lenses. Just like with the PTF. Take a Chinese lens, change the filling to a normal profit

)))

Because R&D optics this topic would be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Why so categorically? Because of the complexity of the implementation of the "right" light?

Never come to that. The people I have.

Sergei, when you get the led head light? Workshop for manufacturing its lamps still not open with this download? ))))

Video caused hysterical laughter. Apparently this app is designed to capture the traveling trolley from the tunnel under the English channel... the other purpose of my fevered brain not offers.
Waiting for three (!) green whistles, Sergey!
Thank you for the extraordinary and creative!

Signed: Adept Of The Light.

Well illumination, approx. Not suitable in General.

I have it not only the temperature it measures.

The calibrator measures the color temperature, that's another story.

And I have a calibrator for monitors. Need to try them to measure lumens.

This is the next step, I measured it partially, just not all at hand was.

In this case. And then do a sweep. their whole lineup.

Yes good, this topic for 10 years, probably :)
It's xenon, but not 35 Watt, as usual, and 15 Watt.
Type, so as not to burn the wiring and the headlamp.

But it seems that I'm the first in the world thought to measure the consumption.
And it seems that it's some kind of Scam, for it is the usual second-rate 35 Watt xenon.

Now thousands of 5 for a couple is like. Well,+ -. Exactly I have no clue.

The first time I hear about a special xenon for reversing :) I Wonder how much for this crap?

Specifically, Logan and there are nuances.
Did www.drive2.ru/l/6731913/

Mmmm... I see you are serious to the point came. Impressive test, clear and understandable.
Hence the question: What's all the same to put in reverse that would Shine better than regular incandescent bulbs?

very clear and informative)) respect

hi. good post!sensible! have you tried the light bulb Golovneva measure would be curious PTS. diodes sanon halogen.

always said that Chinese LEDs are not bright and put normal bulbs)

Fully agree)

the light well, love it cries in the background made neighing)))))

Well miracles do not happen, Cho :) they Have the resource less.
And gain something like 5%.
And 30% it's a marketing thing. Can't remember what it funny, but if you carefully read the packet, then it will be clear, there is a asterisk explanation.

I thought so...

No, not true, has long been known.

Please measure lamp bulb halogen +30%... H1, H4 for example Phillips and OSRAM very interesting if it's true or the usual Scam:)

As always competently and with a soul!)))

The question is not quantity of light sources, and that where they Shine. That is, in optics. Can one chip to distribute on the area, and can be from 10 to collect in a narrow beam.

Lamp as the light source, a point, in practice, closer to the diode of course. Led light strips are the most common same Chinese, and street build "columns" in the lawns. Better to put 10 potockie than a spotlight, and once you deal with this issue, i.e. practices, valuable experience has accumulated I think a small chest. Not uvyazhu brightness and luminous flux.

But not for that, I, like you, was interesno, Cho will, for these purposes, money is not sorry ))
You mean what bulb? Diode, or regular? There is a difference.

Yes... mother nature is not Nai!
Thank you very much for the fact of such work, You would have to take in Autoreview, for example, half of the band to post, them ratings — You honor and glory and "a bunch of lamps" from them, and we are a drop of truth in a barrel of lies.

I have one question — teoreticky that can't equalize:
For example there are 2 build lamps one amounts. power — a lot of dull and bright little lamps, the efficiency of light output is the same — what will happen to the flow assemblies, attenuation and how will be shining on one removing? If the mechanics makes no difference in theory, it's not quite clear.

Manufacturer Datasheet view — it is true.
In order to demonstrate this fact, and I measured and W21W H11.

Just buy a bunch of lamps in order to make sure that they give as much as the manufacturer says, in my opinion, a waste of money and time.

And you can do the test galogenok poccolino a thread one of the firm of Hella or Philips. Standard without any pros. I'd love to know the bases H1, H3, HB4, HB3, H9, H7, H4. know Hella standard is very cheap in the range of 100-300 for the lamp.

The second topic T10 is, the DRL/turn gave it to the man on the Lada)

Tests of probit in the Studio. Like you are lying if you didn't.

beautiful photos. as for the store Windows.

Serge hi)
As Always-at height)
Not standing still razvivaetsa
Kalorik th)

Well, these I wrote. A couple of watts from the power, the lights flow better, and these Yes, you can Shine in the eye and it will seem that cool) there's someone cheap and who will go. Well, the diodes are there even the photo is not Cree, of course, not even close.

Bought these , but the socket does not come up... Put to the test in the turn signal Shine brighter flow. Now ordered these ru.aliexpress.com/item/Cr...-led-car/32265545535.html under your base))) Depends on photo forums like good lights, but again the focus of the camera works so that it is difficult to convey a real glow, such as here in this video I recorded him a few times but nothing worked. Thanks for the old!

1.
Sarcasm that is enough to write Cree and people will buy any junk not even wondering how these "Cree" look.
Besides, Cree line in a hundred different chips. Including junk that shines worse than the Chinese "replica", so even if is a Cree, then there are no guarantees.

2.
Where are they beating? beam 15 degrees in the eye? Maybe beating.
Reverse should ILLUMINATE, not Shine a narrow beam.
This is similar to "Cree lamp". They all have construction +- one and the same.
www.drive2.ru/b/1493497/

1.8 Watt. They dim the regular lights. Yes, due to the lens is a narrow beam, which for simpletons seem "bright kick". But to cover it, nothing will happen. Because SX is a "flood light" from the reflector and not from the narrow lens.
If you're lucky, then the power is 4 watts, giving it a LITTLE more flow.
So all these "beating" are nothing more than a placebo effect from people who have dedicated themselves in their eyes.

But if you need purely bright spot in the spotlight and don't care about lighting, then come down and such.
I'm just about the lighting for the camera.

Clear. Tell me, or rather dispel the myth of the Cree, I don't quite understand the sarcasm in the subject. I just ordered the LEDs in reverse, they look like they are really "beating")

Yes, at 100% brightness goes minute. To brightness regular W16W erupted approximately 13 seconds.

I even do not understand it more than a minute erupted only?

* Xenon I mean

And you can text the results of the last video? Very interesting, but mobile video is not going to ship...

Thank you for your energy, time, money. But I agree and support stroma. Someone at physics in school 7 plus has received, and who is and who is Newton remembers.(not to mention the laws...)
But Your work is undoubtedly appreciated by users. And they would with great gratitude read like "what is good what is bad." As before mentioned for a wide range of readers.
Thank you.

There are designed for people who are able to make their own conclusions.
I think in this case, a degree is not required.

Many Chinese lamp on a 64 lumen will roll and they will scream "as the xenon shines".
Just because the price of 3 pennies. So to each his own.

Still the conclusions at the end would be. Type all the shit, my xenon is better than all

Yes, in theory I had expected. But if there is such a good man would be a useful comparison table of lamps we encounter in life. And xenon and nice and Chinese and halogen (Chinese against the Soviet and against the expensive thread).

VitalyGTL

Do not tell me how many issues the standard Chinese xenon? And how depends or depends on whether the flow from the temperature of the glow of the Chinese lamp of xenon?

The temperature of the glow one of the variables which depends on the luminous flux. In high pressure discharge lamps the temperature of the glow is determined by the composition of the mixture of gases and Halogens from this alteration of the spectrum of the illumination. And from this luminous flux is changed in the big or smaller party.

No idea to be honest. I'm not an expert on xenon. But now I think that Aamnah 3200 lumen he can't hold on... About the temperature not in the subject even...

Do not tell me how many issues the standard Chinese xenon? And how depends or depends on whether the flow from the temperature of the glow of the Chinese lamp of xenon?

tool1380

If the question is only for DRL, then of course do not care. I thought you and near and all things LED.
XML on the denomination of course will not get. You just have to ship to get it - just to solve the problem of cooling.
If the headlights are different then of course the tint is not floating. But when they have the same cinemacast and pilesti and tinted the tint may be noticeable. Eating LED from different regions of Banovci.
You know better, just asking.

Shipping XML stupid idea, because the impact falls on Wat stronger than the current.

I know that, but the people buying Chinese lamps in halogen reflector is clearly hoping for a miracle :)

Well, although Phillips makes a bulb under the flow H11, but they Shine the same as stock. Only white.
To do ""retrofit "" optics foolish from an economic point of view.

They will not adequately work for optics not. If you stir up optical system that is.
The question should be — does it with such costs. The capacity to manage the infinite.
Firmowy it works fine.

Middle no, I'm is adequate and not trying to do things that obviously will not work. With tincom still not a single question was not, therefore, have reason to believe that it is possible painlessly to score) it in the lights do not all see...

If the question is only for DRL, then of course do not care. I thought you and near and all things LED.
XML on the denomination of course will not get. You just have to ship to get it - just to solve the problem of cooling.
If the headlights are different then of course the tint is not floating. But when they have the same cinemacast and pilesti and tinted the tint may be noticeable. Eating LED from different regions of Banovci.
You know better, just asking.

Well, if you are in the normal realm of work, you can test it :))
A single XML galogenki not get even xml2 will not get.
Question natural does not decide, it is not. What formula, if a little dusty glass and tint change? The lens or bluish, or blue-tinted reflector... Here is stupidly irrelevant.
CRI also for DRL is not a serious option, to put it mildly.

Cool! Well done!
The scope would be more of course.
It was interesting to see a breakdown one format of a halogen. How much someone gives. And how bullshit these +100% light some.
Cree is good, just in this form factor under the standard base is not so easy to ensure the normal thermal regime, and that rests on the capacity for heat is not removed.
And Odyn XML will take out the halogen to HID will not reach - and it is necessary-whether? But optics under the middle LED is a separate pestni. And driver needed.
Once you have AllLed how do you solve the issue of various Tint available. Or are you all one party? What CRI is used? CCT-?

My level of competence: Work on 2 meter. the field and 11-metrovom the goniophotometer. Led lighting, flashaholic — bit.

PS I Hate the cold CCT, Warm and Neutral Hi Cri — only

Reading BJ:
Thank you that You are!
=)

Andrew, thank you. I'm a fan ) And the remark, going to deal with laziness )

A very clear comparison! Thank you! So popular among the people led (cool it!) lose conventional incandescent... Laughter!

Only the Council, called the luminous diodes LEDs. You specialist!

This garbage :)

Exactly, see there is still now look. Difficult to answer, but surely something can be defined from the light flux that is. For example, from xenon PTF glass is not heated and in consequence does not crack from the water, and the halogen is heated. But the powerful LEDs and so on...

Well, you can, I think, in the blog go and see.
As teplootdachu you want to check, if not a secret?)

An interesting article. And will tests other LEDs which is more powerful and with a normal cree diodes (multiple) and light emitting diodes which are 3-5 thousand which are large.
Oh, another would be to check the heat from them and survivability.

Each will remain unconvinced. The ringing is nothing to do with)

Unfortunately, you hear the sound of...
Success.

That's right: a lot of reports at the burnt-out lenses xenon. No matter what manufacturer: Koito, Hella, Valeo, Bosch
They all advertise that is more bi-led modules Koito))

Of course, the guys from the halogen.there's a lot of reports, they are open every day.
It is strange that such a question even arose.

And You have specific examples of safety bi-xenon modules?))
I suggest you conduct your own tests, the benefit of the equipment provided and make sure that things are not as bad as you claim.

They are not gone, if you do not know ))
And even the chips the same the same put there all these years.
There are examples in the development of which you speak?)

He destroyed everywhere. Let's not argue about the obvious facts. For two years technology in the production of LEDs and modules for standard lamps have gone far ahead.
Make self tests and verify.

He destroys in the individual models.
I have 8 years of FKH xenon and everything is OK.

The difference between 2300лм 3200лм and even toes are not "small") this has long been the accordion

The module cant only in its dimensions. And xenon warms very much the reflector and destroy it.
In fact in tests the difference is not so great, but the degree of aging of different times.

Two years have passed.
Yes, and xenon still shines better.
So all important.

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Yesterday already discussed is the creation of Chinese industry.
Complete bullshit from obscure diode and ending with a curtain that cuts 40 percent of the flow.

It's not as bad as is actually. Put the original KOITO BI-LED. Great light.

XS and what's the most important thing W did not measure consumption.
The characteristics and the chips Yes, it should be cool if far there is 60 watts per side.
But the price and almost certainly problems with the placement does in my opinion all the pros kill.

Hello and how?
bihalogen.ru/page.php?107
Vpochem one hell of budget, do better on the led beam to splurge :)

Yesterday already discussed is the creation of Chinese industry.
Complete bullshit from obscure diode and ending with a curtain that cuts 40 percent of the flow.

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Well, if you believe my word, then you have not so many options

1. To pollinate lights and buy them new galogenki
2. To change the headlamps on the new
3. To open headlights and put xenon lens.

All.
The diodes in the head light this balloting, because they normally sweetb in galoganova/xenon optics will not.
So the diodes are NOT an option. Well, besides from a beam on the roof for long if weapon no one.

Well bilisi diode can also be seatraffic, with a strong desire.
hidretrofit.pl/sklep/soczewki-koito-biled/

=) Here was useful to Express their not even amateurish opinion and to hear the answer from someone who knows =)

If "diode svetilka" at least in theory would give the right STG, I would have made them :)

Understood. Thank you!
I was just considering "twist" back diode svetilka.
And Yes, I believe in the word and do not intended I will take the advice and think about these three options.

Well, if you believe my word, then you have not so many options

1. To pollinate lights and buy them new galogenki
2. To change the headlamps on the new
3. To open headlights and put xenon lens.

All.
The diodes in the head light this balloting, because they normally sweetb in galoganova/xenon optics will not.
So the diodes are NOT an option. Well, besides from a beam on the roof for long if weapon no one.

what it is that Wikipedia is written for me, the set is not connected terms. While trying to find plain language information, but best of all, when somebody who understands it explains with examples and other remarks.

I don't so much wonder how many already have. My light does not suit me, as it even can't pass inspection because of a lack of brightness. Night do not see anything further than two feet from the bumper, is that even when the direction adjustment of the headlights. And that's fine to change, but it does not become a "welder" or "Slepner", we have to try to understand yourself, otherwise vtyuhat me shit for mnogomernogo, and I know I will not, that you can do more reasonable means.

Again I apologize for my Ustrialov.

NedvigaDV

well, about the light I do "not know anything". Yet =) So no hard feelings =) But again, the required brightness is good, but in the inspection there is a paragraph about the direction of light? So, probably, it is necessary to measure the brightness in that direction? But in other areas brightness, logically, must be less for safety. Isn't it?

In fact, only the turn signal (aka hazard lights) and rear fog red — to Shine in all directions, so they have seen everything and can assess the situation and maneuver

If you really it's interesting, then read at least the Wikipedia article about units of measurement luminous fluxes. Just what you write now does not stand any criticism :) Yes, and the logic did not give in.

yeah, now roughly understood. Thanks for the clarification, I'm sorry with my dumb questions.

Brightness in the direction is derived from full brightness, eslicho. And it formed by lamp + secondary optics. Measure each particular optics stupid, so ALL manufacturers operate lights long lumens. Including and manufacturers Gallina.

well, about the light I do "not know anything". Yet =) So no hard feelings =) But again, the required brightness is good, but in the inspection there is a paragraph about the direction of light? So, probably, it is necessary to measure the brightness in that direction? But in other areas brightness, logically, must be less for safety. Isn't it?

In fact, only the turn signal (aka hazard lights) and rear fog red — to Shine in all directions, so they have seen everything and can assess the situation and maneuver

I will correct you: you are not "something you do not understand" and "know nothing")) no offense. Read GOST, for example, there is not just the desired brightness. And not just for the DRL.

I don't understand something.
I thought DRLs needed purely for "show". They're not light, nothing light, just make it clear that the machine is on the move and not worth it. Like how do the rules compulsory movement when the DRL.
Isn't it?
If Yes, then do not care how many lumens they give out.

And second.
I think it is not right to measure how much light give lights in all directions. The essence of lights to illuminate the space ahead of the front of the car, so the way the driver was visible, well, a little curb on the right, and half the band left, so it was evident that no one is shoved under the wheels. Moreover, the coverage of "in hand" it seems like even against the law. The idea is that with the headlights illuminating the oncoming vehicles and vstrechnoy the side car should not pass inspection. Therefore, what is the point to measure in the field all the rays that fly in the hell knows where, instead of measuring the useful rays illuminating the road for the driver?

I'm the representative of this stupid herd :-) after everything You read tomorrow will kick your Chinese bulbs and I will be soldering himself

Well iPhone and Samsung also made there.
We can conclude that the quality of lamps and lanterns there is the same?
It has some strange Parallels — ordered, and did. That's all.

Decent lamps I have not yet seen. Well, except for the size for $ 2 a pair.
Everything else is worse than incandescent bulbs.

Although there are people who any led bulbs seem to be cooler just because it's LEDs. But there is already another topic.

One Motherland )))
Well I therefore asked you, maybe the lamp is decent?
And the replacement bulbs in the turn signals, foot svetodiodnye Chinese good?

And what is the relationship, if not secret, Chinese lanterns and Chinese lamps for auto?)

I just worked with Chinese lanterns, sold them. Nitecore, Fenix-emitting diode projector thrunite, Magicshine, etc. It is a very worthy representatives of the Chinese industry.

The usual "15 Watt xenon". What cap XS, usually it "universal".

Chinese lamps that meet your requirements there.
H1 put, Yes.
The only "but" is that over time, headlights become cloudy and if "overexposed", it may popraviti specifically. Well, in the narrow lights are not an option. And so good and cheap.

China is not all bad, I agree, there is 1% good, but it should be able to find, usually it takes a lot of time and money. I've been there too.

and what kind of xenon bulb in the back? What it base?
And tell me, is there Chinese light bulbs in the back that really cool light, P21W and more powerful than the regular level galogenok H1 that sacalaseni I have in the back?
Do not all of China is bad. There is a lot of good lighting, but bullshit certainly is much more.

Thank you so much for measurements of xenon for SX, made the findings...

Why would it suddenly... HB3 is not listed even in the list of analogues

Order. Come hb3 instead of hir1

vantich

HIR1 not available. HIR2 only from Philips today. For Opel Astra put them under the lens. 9012LLC1 marking

incorrect information. HIR2, you can easily buy in Russia, Osram and Philips. HIR1 only Osram.

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A cardboard tube with a coefficient of reflection of 5%? :))) Not very seriously.
But if the halogen side and spiral are the same, + - kilometer rolled.

Can measure the lumens, put there, I think that will be interesting.
And not the fact that the Chinese xenon will give the same :)
In reverse gives out 1200+ lumens.

Damn can't find the pictures((((

It side and spiral. Error there is and will be. But the point was to find out what the difference between lamps and it is clearly to be seen. In the evening I will throw off (photo on the home computer)

A cardboard tube with a coefficient of reflection of 5%? :))) Not very seriously.
But if the halogen side and spiral are the same, + - kilometer rolled.

Can measure the lumens, put there, I think that will be interesting.
And not the fact that the Chinese xenon will give the same :)
In reverse gives out 1200+ lumens.

luxometer. but not in the flask and in the collective sealed cardboard tube. measured looking from the side. ie the spiral filament Assembly (full length)
www.civic-club.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=157093
and here is the theme. Photo luxometer and photo caps can dovelocity. In the subject of their not shoved as people cooled off interest in the topic. All the more interesting, to put Xen without a shield like D2R and dazzle one and all.

What instrument is that?
If luxometer, it will show, because the directivity even in the incandescent lamp is strongly heterogeneous.

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Lumens.

H11 produces 1260 lumens, I measured in a light sphere. If there really is 1800 lumens, it looked very nice.

There is a photo with measurements of different lamps in the unit. Ordinary bulbs and hir2

Yeah, about the farmers, I'm in :)
The same farmers with the diodes. For this reason I I will not even try the diodes in the head light.
Well, at least this.
The galogenki I'm not special, thanks for the info.

H11 a completely different base. H11 can be replaced with a lamp H9 there 2100люмен. Hb3 on hir1. Hb4 hir2 on as I did and go for a year. But did the experiments and installation hb3 hb4 instead of in the middle with a rubber seal. Good to sit down. Hb3 also have about 1800 but the resource is small. They for far and invented. The geometry of the lamps hb3 and hb4 and hir2 are identical! And so there's no glare whatsoever. There is a check mark clear. And farmers with the xenon don't think about the geometry of the lamp and the location of the source of the glow lamp and light the sky and colliding.

Lumens.

H11 produces 1260 lumens, I measured in a light sphere. If there really is 1800 lumens, it looked very nice.

Yeah. Coating the bulb with an infrared filter. Increased light output. About 1800люмен or Suite. XS. Set хир2 instead of hb4 in the middle. Light much better. Similarities with нб3 and нб4 is. Cap one. Different ear only. At the civic club topic with studies done

Judging by Google, similar to a normal HB3/4.
What is the meaning of these lamps? They have some special characteristics?

HIR1 not available. HIR2 only from Philips today. For Opel Astra put them under the lens. 9012LLC1 marking

Indepen that. I accidentally even did not hear about such :)

Thanks for the good report. Do you happen HIR1 bulb not tested?

link to Ali, there's pictures:
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photo blocks xenon possible? or a picture from the net.

I just listened to the video