Handling relay on the headlights
Good evening!
I'm tired to go in blind, decided to stir up the unloader relay for the headlights.
Here such naborchik bought
Osram Night Breaker Unlimited +110%
Also bought the brush, but the battery was only 13V
my do over))
Soldered everything according to the pattern found on the drive
Unacceptable put in such junction boxes
The entire circuit I soldered at home, because in the garage there is no electricity, then went to the garage, cut the wire and what you need strapped to your product))
Started the car and struck effect, the light, the feelings got better 3 times, unfortunately the gallery BEFORE I do not have, below pictures have already relagamy.
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far
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Far. New orlovskih the high beam shines white
The way to implement a relay on the headlights I got came fine at 12.5 V, but they do not Shine and if for example to keep it shining far brighter light and the collection tubes light up to full strength.
In General I am very satisfied with the work done.
By the WAY the pads on the relay was terrible, the contacts were not pressed, it's all wobbly, because of this, the bumps, the lights blinked, I redo without them.
SanchouZ
You can do two. Only a man once wrote that it is not strong in the electrics and made according to the scheme found at this resource. Yes, as we discussed with comrade renover'om, you can do "more elegant", but he was not afraid, did, and the main result is, shines better, and this is the main goal of this event.
Sorry opicka — it is for two relays for one headlight .
No he did the right thing using just two unacceptable and he succeeded as the factory option if it will go out for any reason one headlight, then the second will burn .
And talk "craftsmen" why Yes, why Yes ... of pocisti silushku ... crazy stuff, just these comrades have no idea what was going on .
The same version has been in service for quite a while ...
You can do two. Only a man once wrote that it is not strong in the electrics and made according to the scheme found at this resource. Yes, as we discussed with comrade renover'om, you can do "more elegant", but he was not afraid, did, and the main result is, shines better, and this is the main goal of this event.
SanchouZ
Why is this on the VW Golf 1, 2, 3, for VW Passat Corrado 1,2,3,4 on no relay for the headlights.
But the point of this work because staff no relay, the load goes to the headlamp switch and steering column switch, due to wear, the contact becomes bad and in order to relieve these worn contacts people put relays. Now I understand why this is?
well, then you can do two relays
PavelN02
What is a "Fasting relay" ? Who unloads it? Relay for headlight is regular on any machine without it will not connect.
Relay-it is likely, without it not to dipped-beam. Here's the deal as I understand it. All power voltage goes to the lamp directly through from the battery - stalk-relay-lamp. He did so: AKB-stalk-relay(for control of others-far), and directly on the lamp goes like this: battery-relays-bulbs, those UNLOADED paddle.
The result of the work: 1)less loss of current 2) there is no extra load contacts the paddle
PERVll
anyway, what makes it so special? all is there but not on this one
At all just the same basically no, and that goes for all old cars from 15 years of age, and most Sssrovskih machines.
The point is that this relay offloads the ignition switch, not light switch, which is connected directly without relay to the headlights, the entire load on him, so he dies often)))
renover
Then why does the dragonfly have a sore spot?
vnx.su/content/avto/ford/...cheskoe-oborudovanie.html
"Since February, 1983, be equipped with relay-headlamp"
83! The B3 Passat was released in 88.
11 years went to the Sierras and didn't know that she have a sore spot. Sold 17-year-old with no problems at all.
PavelN02
Yeah like there is no relay. And fog lights are. The PV is cool.
Not only PV, all are not have in those years.
Zobov1993
Kick, did not think that the recording will evoke many discussions.
Even if someone told how to do everything in mind, I just far from the General electrics and a soldering iron for the first time in hands took))
If you were there, I would you for thank you all hooked up, and it's hard to tell, need to see the car. But the scheme will try to draw later skins.
Vanopula
I imagine Ауди100 C3/44 put extra relays, because my steering column has become my hands to fry during long trips.
well, I have not as much more annoying worth the small price here and there to pull what would the light turn on, can be patruleasa this will not help, then the next overeat.
SanchouZ
Why is this on the VW Golf 1, 2, 3, for VW Passat Corrado 1,2,3,4 on no relay for the headlights.
But the point of this work because staff no relay, the load goes to the headlamp switch and steering column switch, due to wear, the contact becomes bad and in order to relieve these worn contacts people put relays. Now I understand why this is?
on his father's Ford Mondeo 93g almost melted headlamp switch
for Ford it was a consumable...
PERVll
anyway, what makes it so special? all is there but not on this one
we are not.
This is the original scheme, just with a properly embedded relay. Not fuses for each headlight, and each thread separately ( I just drew Kellovsky optics))) ). Can for fun, to find the scheme VAZ-21013,it'll be easier to understand. For example this b-a.d-cd.net/7a90812s-960.jpg
From the heart, and what this scheme would be better ? I realized that only two relays for each headlight two earlier? Or something else? ?
Zobov1993
Kick, did not think that the recording will evoke many discussions.
Even if someone told how to do everything in mind, I just far from the General electrics and a soldering iron for the first time in hands took))
Here's a diagram fotki.yandex.ru/next/user.../album/205357/view/961473
PERVll
anyway, what makes it so special? all is there but not on this one
if I remember correctly, the B3, T4, and their clones unacceptable are not, everything goes through the stalk switch, and fellow author, nicely done
I saw that the author wrote. Just my opinion that is not in the stocks case, so not quite correctly put. From my experience I would say that I don't see anything off on this "shit". And I wrote that you shouldn't bet your farm as an example of the operation, I think since you are an electrician you should be more dignified versions of the underhood wiring. Here it is necessary to show.
For me it only confirmed your words. I did not notice.
that pad is shit, the author himself said that they fall off on bumps and the light flashes. Read carefully.
About the consumption of the bulbs is a real experience. Confirm theory. I on many machines put relays on the lights, and it is in the area of the battery-lights, and connected all the wire of 2.5 sq. mm. And the flow rate of bulbs is significantly growing. If the lamp changing is easy — care. If hard something to consider.
These also are changed for the dispute to end.
I information told. What to do with it — let everyone think for himself. Range, from "I@#d" to the sculpture (or buy) special devices for smooth inclusion of lamps.
Well let, I also repeat, I am fully confident that the "design" lamp, it all counts, and it follows that the "margin of safety" they have.
This is not a separate problem this is the problem and resulted in the creation of this post. And the fact that you started to tell me about that pad is shit and the lamp will burn, it just has to be another problem. However your words can be put under a big question, I have to vent with the "shit" everything worked perfectly during the whole time of its use. And the link that you threw on the wiring, that is a Hell of a farm which a few years will fail to deal with the fly. What prevents just all soldered and put heat shrinkage with insert in the stocks and to obtain an orderly transaction?
So we can end this argument.
the calculations then that at 14.5 V, inrush currents will be even higher than at 12V
once again, long thin wiring is done on purpose to substantially limit the starting current.
about handling unacceptable, burnable switches, I know. Personally repeatedly put unacceptable on a variety of machines. This is a separate problem discussed is associated only indirectly (as in the joke about the eggs in the sexual act: kind of in the business, but do not enter :=) )
Well, if You know about the "underfilling" then why are You giving me the calculations based on the stated indicators? Then calculate based on reality.
Thin? Cool. The resistance is not there because of the wires. There is a diagram of the relay set in FV next to the relay, i.e. immediately after the switch, in which everything goes according to the regular wiring, switches, control belusconi, and it is not strange but for the lamp again comes above the 12V, for example 13-14. And everything works fine. Here is a diagram fotki.yandex.ru/next/user.../album/205357/view/961473
"underfill" power is common. In household light bulbs, the actual capacity of 1/3 of the claimed common.
1.5 mm sq. is a thin wire. It is sufficient to evaluate the resistance of the line. 12V on the lamp instead of 14.5 V is an excellent proof
about immediate switching podrulevymi, and burning of its contacts is sore not only PV, on many machines this was.
I am very glad that You know the physics, now you will seldom meet such people, but there is a BUT:
Do you think light bulb manufacturers these calculations are not produced? And I don't know what "normal" cars vehicle voltage is not 12V, but in fact about 13 — 14V? I think they all know it and when power supply 12V power in fact will not 55W, in support of this argument, here's an article www.zr.ru/content/article..._dla_dorog_ili_proselkov/
Only one lamp out of 19! at 12V gives the above stated capacity, all the other lamps at 12V instead of 55W, issue 49-50.
And now, some of the wires from the PV staff they are not thin(1.5 mm2), the problem is not the wires but the fact that all the current goes through the switch, over time the contacts in these switches wear out and not provide adequate contact, hence the losses.
there's no need to guess, everything counts in flight. The nonlinearity of the lamp, to simplify, do not take into account.
P=U^2/R
R=U^2/P
R=12V^2/55W=2.6 Ohm
now consider capacity and current at 14.5 V
I=U/R
I=14.5/2.6=5.6 A
P=U^2/R
P=14.5 V^2/2,6 Ohm= 80,9 W
and burn the bulb will be from the current 10x, i.e. 56A
if a full-time, long thin wiring significantly limits the inrush current, now, short thick wiring allow the bulb safely atirat such inrush currents. What light bulbs are not useful.
Uh what do you mean what is happiness? I didn't say lower, I said remains the same. You'll have to determine what will be above the power or current if 14.5 the power output is higher, say 60, then
(60W/14.5 in)X10=41,3 A, well not 60, let the 10 watt added. then
(65W/14.5 in)X10=44,8 But -here is the amperage the same as with 12V
And if you take that amperage remains the same? Then with what joy the light bulb to burn out earlier?
I know 7 years of travel on the PV of which 2 without additional relays, and the remaining 5 relay and something like that did not notice that they were more likely to burn.
OK, I was expecting this, let the power above, but the amperage will remain the same.
short circuit
the lamp that is written? 12V 55W at 12V That it was designed to do
14.5 V it is, of course, shines zachotno. But all you have to pay. Increased consumption of light bulbs. There is not even the price of the lamp. And on some machines until you get to the bulb will turn gray. On Kors where to replace the bulb in the headlight, need to remove the bumper and remove the headlights. Services for this work to take about 7круб.
In General take your message:
"10x
(55W/12V)X10=45,8 And
and in the bitter cold, comes up to 12-14x"
Inline 12V instead of 14.5 and what we get:
(55W/14.5 in)X10=37,9 And
The starting current was less than...
The horror!) Apparently it's time for all automakers to hang, and something like will not measure the voltage when it is opened the motor is 13.8 — 14.2... a Nightmare.
SanchouZ
For 4 years the use of vents with a similar scheme relay, burned only two light bulbs. Maybe in the case of frequent burnout of the bulbs, to see not rotted it somewhere in the wiring? All the same, it seems to me that light bulb manufacturers count on normal stress, and not foul the wiring of the old Passat.
the lamp that is written? 12V 55W at 12V That it was designed to do
14.5 V it is, of course, shines zachotno. But all you have to pay. Increased consumption of light bulbs. There is not even the price of the lamp. And on some machines until you get to the bulb will turn gray. On Kors where to replace the bulb in the headlight, need to remove the bumper and remove the headlights. Services for this work to take about 7круб.
th? you're not to RUB chepuhu... device EPT, you're funny. read the literature and not my stupidity
Volgarist
yeah, same answer and the gay xenonite. "Yes, che EPT, I have them in the bottom lowered" :)
Well, you first look the device the lights before you draw conclusions
especially annoying when they are in the yards are still not switched on dimensions. when I was on the bike, far it comes as a surprise that for 400-500 meters signs light in the sky has
yeah, same answer and the gay xenonite. "Yes, che EPT, I have them in the bottom lowered" :)
AlekseyAA
Break out a piece of iron of the headlights more light will be!
you're out of your mind? to break down? To all blind.
Want to say that everything I wrote is nonsense? And the fact that from the 100w bulbs melting the reflectors, and what brushes work the wear and not to mid? I agree about the unacceptable acknowledge besponyatiya that pasage of rilutek no because for me this infa useless and your car have full manuals and where there is that and how do I know
PERVll
do not understand the point of this post
1 brush is such a thing here or there is contact or not is no third, if they end not erased so they should work
2 one could start with the polishing of the headlights and at the same time on ABC to find relyushku dazzle and clean her contacts
3 when I worked in the parts store Audi Volkswagen one such came asked why his headlight shines badly, and then brought it to his reflector was melted and all of that he vperdolit headlight bulbs 100w not 50w or 60w which it is necessary should stand
So from people who understand electrics think the same positive reviews will not get you there which was unloaded I did not understand at all and unacceptable to the form of the horse is similar to Gazovskih 70A I have these two in parallel that would stand through them a current of 100A to let
Fellow author, without these reluc always these faizah drawdown.
A primer unfortunately you need to study in order not the crap written above!
No offense!)
Petrosyan, is that you?
I have painted, I can look in the comments, if you are not lazy.
renover
How IGNORANT scheme, it's just awful. Relay enough just TWO, one in the middle, second on beam, lights always connected in parallel. Worst of all, during the combustion of the fuse WILL NOT light at all, and if on speed?
But if 180 miles per hour, tyre burst or a nail, or God forbid a brick on the head. Draw literate. )))
Yes, it helps almost everyone.
I wrote about it five years ago www.drive2.ru/l/3258857/
I agree.
however, "there are options"
for example, my Chrysler as much as 3pcs computer on Board, including 1pcs of "home." However, the light cut podrulevymi directly...
Stalk block burn (possibly) due to contact wear direct switching of high current circuits (power lamp applies to them).
In modern machines the buttons and switches are generally not high-current circuits. All switching goes through the left side (who as it might be called), where there are high current relays and electronic switches. Therefore, it is now possible to manage ALL(!) the mechanisms of the machine (if automatic transmission) electronically, including remotely.
The wheel — it turns the steering, the brake — it can pull ABS/ESP, gas — have long been electronic, a person is available manual gearbox and a mechanical "Parking brake" (some where it is electronic).
A modern car is a computer, and to interfere in its management is becoming dangerous.
the control lamp is not related with burnout grounded: monitoring relay current flows in transit through the shunts. Regardless of that then I turned on the light.
as for modern cars, there all different. There are electronic keys. And there are direct switching
And now on modern machines lamp hanging not even on the relyuhi — electronic key, and EACH, as a system of control of serviceability of lamps it measures them when the ignition is turned on each individually.
This electronic key specially gives to the lamp exactly 12 volts.
On the near/far specially did not check, but protivotumanok, where there are HB4 55 Watt can be adjusted in percentage the brightness of the lamp.
PERVll
yeah well, so the factory relay is not installed? this can not be
on a bunch of machines that
on my old Taurus, at the present Sabrine — everywhere immediate switching. And burnable switches (main light on the Taurus, and stalk from Sebring)
the old Folkish-Audi's, like, too, the immediate switching podrulevymi, and also burnable stalk.
relay controller really looks like wazowski. there is 14.5 volts отсечка.www.drive2.ru/l/7674169/
Speakers
It was enough for two relay for both headlights(there was, just in parallel would have tied only two)
And wow, you skazanul that brush over the old, when I had changed 3 times smaller and they were still working)
and if I have H1 bulbs, one bulb for each light?
Well, I already ring on the gene rubbed in places to the ground, so the old brush probably couldn't get
It was enough for two relay for both headlights(there was, just in parallel would have tied only two)
And wow, you skazanul that brush over the old, when I had changed 3 times smaller and they were still working)
Is drawdown, with the release of heat according to the law of Joule-Lenz. According to the law of conservation of energy nothing and nowhere is not lost;)
JMin-Led
if I understand correctly on the bulb now not 12 volt but more so?
Just goes in the wiring voltage loss
Sanek9726
Yes 14, or how many issues a generator
Gene gives the example of 90 amps, I have 110,you take the wire plus that produces in addition to the RR gene, and do not write this way.
Oh yeah that would understand the principle of operation of light bulb it is necessary to higher profile, do not tell. Besides, I have studied electrical engineering and if you look at the blog you will realize that the education I have not a humanitarian
JMin-Led
what kind of TBE? I understand what a lamp is, how it works
SOC — Theoretical foundations of Electrical engineering — University course for specialties associated with electricity and radio. And if you're not familiar with SOC, as is actually a working lamp you also hardly known. Sorry, that's life.
Well, I found an example. Clear the stump will quickly die, immediately not from KAMAZ gene set, and returned to normal voltage. 12V is just a standard lithium battery of 3.7 V but when fully charged 4.2 V and 3.7 V is 50%. And then the manufacturer pointing 12V means that the work will be at 14V, at least for the reason that the car battery when voltage is lower than a 13.9 In a never charged to 100%, respectively, and the lamp is run at least at a given voltage. Really considering one BUT in the form of voltage SAG in the wiring.
I'm here to burn the cabin в5в tried submitting 27V and a waste of time, a current in 2 times has increased, but not dead, while the hole in the flask did not.
Put for example on KAMAZ 12V light bulb, think long passes?
The practice shows the opposite. Lamp terrible scourge — overheating of the spiral. Metal spiral evaporates faster, Halogens do not have time to besiege him back, part of the metal is deposited on the bulb, the filament becomes thinner, its resistance increases, the temperature of the filament increases until melted...
No, I mean that WAH is almost linear. From the increase from 12 to 14V power changes is not much, the higher the temperature the higher the resistance of the filament. So I think highly of the resource will not be affected.
JMin-Led
what kind of TBE? I understand what a lamp is, how it works
I'm here to burn the cabin в5в tried submitting 27V and a waste of time, a current in 2 times has increased, but not dead, while the hole in the flask did not.
forget the word 12 :) All bulbs +100 light, it lies sensitive, there may be due to slightly different gas in the bulbs or let the other spiral. Honestly Dear it is difficult to explain all this, if you don't know the SOC, it is difficult to understand :)
Farah I even don't remember what b was 13, all the time 12+
the lamp on which it is written that light is more for a certain amount of interest is not 12 volt bulb
how many on-Board network voltage so be it. you have a multimeter measure the voltage especially in the twentieth century, so at least 13.5 Volts will.
About 100, 70% I did not understand You to be honest
and how much if it says 12? they, too, as it and 10 burn, only it's not a standard mode of operation, for example, those lamps that are +100% +70% of the light that is not 12 but 11 or even 10 volt lamps that are in the hover mode Shine brighter 12 volt
the lamp is not 12, it is to say the average value of the car enthusiast not zamarachivatsya. At home the same bulb on 220, but they work at 180))
So the light bulb 12 volt, they are just now in avralnom mode of working and will be faster preparati
short circuit
the fact that the brightness depends on the pressing on the lever means that the contact system is grounded serves the female sexual organ. Installation of rilutek very topic: still a bit burned out and gone for good
I have a new stalk switch
What I do not understand, but perhaps from a factory or so, for example you're in the cabin include the button it energizes relay that is powered through the light, I understand you have all the current lamps and is somewhere 4.5 ampere shoal using this button in the cabin?
Not even a question, just funny when you hang parallel to the relay installed from the factory, when changing wire size or check the quality of the pulp.
older follow view, you'd be surprised, there is no relay on the headlights no, the supply voltage goes through the control unit light, over time, the contacts of the BEADS deteriorates which decreases the voltage at the headlights themselves, the solution is either to change BEADS(China walks are not long, the original is too expensive), or to Refine what did the factory put the relay
And the Lada is, even in 03 and 06 models were...That there were Germans saved I do not know about VAG and have not written a word.
Andrey1974
Are you guys kidding me?, even (view schema) in the Lada steering column light switch operates a relay. The problem and its solution the additional relay on each headlamp may slightly reduce the voltage drop, but do not forget about the correct size of wire and put a fuse.
the old Folco no relay for the headlight, this I advise You to watch Lagowskii schemes, and to introduce people zablujdenie
Andrey1974
Are you guys kidding me?, even (view schema) in the Lada steering column light switch operates a relay. The problem and its solution the additional relay on each headlamp may slightly reduce the voltage drop, but do not forget about the correct size of wire and put a fuse.
What was it?
Palenque?
so it is reduced. In the runoff, the loss of the PPC on the Passat, I'm on my pacing, generally 11.5 Volts on the twentieth. On Matiz is the same crap (but fortunately I have standards, others suffer). Yes that's right, the cross section of the wires a lot of neglect.
Are you guys kidding me?, even (view schema) in the Lada steering column light switch operates a relay. The problem and its solution the additional relay on each headlamp may slightly reduce the voltage drop, but do not forget about the correct size of wire and put a fuse.
PavelN02
What is a "Fasting relay" ? Who unloads it? Relay for headlight is regular on any machine without it will not connect.
Downright any? On my A6 1996 on the near/far is not, and is PTF.
and that means in the scheme of black cups with three Roman numerals 5, or is it three birds?
I repeat, I am not an electrician, it would be under the scheme of five, would make five
the correct solution to the problem))
the main bulb non-Chinese and non-Russians questioning, they spoil the optics. also 100\90 watt lamps, lights pregreat much... and they better keramicheskoi connectors set!
And how much is enough life bulb? Usually kirdyk comes very quickly.
year go with such rauhani, normal flight
nitpickery in this connection I Shine for more than a year, I dipped include both daytime so though so though so they are going for at least a year
And how much is enough life bulb? Usually kirdyk comes very quickly.
I have OSRAM at normal connection in the middle died after 1.5 years (daily 2 times for 1.5 hours) with a difference in ONE day. In the described connection, when stress on the lamp above the VW-tion of the recommendations will go a little...
It became better because the light is good set.
But get ready every 3-5 months. new lamp to buy this model bulb for a long time does not go, I'm in year 3 of the kit wear out. now koito took, but they are in bad weather don't Shine
In favor of reduce the cost and simplify the design, a lot of things priznayutsya, such as relays, plus the voltage of the shunts is deposited on the diagnostic lights, no they won't work diagnosis, and those who don't care about her — why not?
Yes, the Germans are stupid utyrki. You'll all something like. Of course, parallel wiring is easier to throw than the old to bring in the proper condition. So you duplicate all the wiring. Good luck.
Now take a multimeter and measure at the got car the voltage at the terminals of the lamp and battery, will be able to see the difference, the author kacapor of course, but the idea is in the right direction, before you smear anything and everything — make sure the complete wrongness of the interlocutor.
I mean that the diagram drawn incorrectly. Hands to tear the author of the scheme for unfair attitude to the task. Now other people like you suffer. And I think that this "miracle" will save them from problems. I fully agree with the author that you just have to check all the connectors and relays. And it would be happiness to you. And the light was better due to the new bulbs. And this additional bunch of wires — you Vicente cormorants. Not zagromozhdaet engine compartment. And then you then get confused. Good luck.
Mascha-Stas
The scheme is not correct. Minus the headlights is not. As you have all of this work?
Actually on the Golf course (not sure how) the lamp housing is plastic and there is "masses" no, each bulb socket are two wires — guess what...
The scheme is not correct. Minus the headlights is not. As you have all of this work?
ABM34
Good job. Somewhat goofy, but good)
First, the relays are already there. Secondly, why on each filament lamp at the relay? Just one in middle, one in the far. Thirdly, the brushes wear on the PP quite a and by the length of the voltage is not greatly affected.
Total: it was necessary to shake up a regular transaction, find out why Farah 12.5 V instead of 14 as it should be. The issue price would be one bottle of contact cleaner and three hours of leisurely work. With the same result.
there these relays, are tested!
ABM34
Good job. Somewhat goofy, but good)
First, the relays are already there. Secondly, why on each filament lamp at the relay? Just one in middle, one in the far. Thirdly, the brushes wear on the PP quite a and by the length of the voltage is not greatly affected.
Total: it was necessary to shake up a regular transaction, find out why Farah 12.5 V instead of 14 as it should be. The issue price would be one bottle of contact cleaner and three hours of leisurely work. With the same result.
Two relays on the lamp, in practice, all the better for a good headlamp.
Good job. Somewhat goofy, but good)
First, the relays are already there. Secondly, why on each filament lamp at the relay? Just one in middle, one in the far. Thirdly, the brushes wear on the PP quite a and by the length of the voltage is not greatly affected.
Total: it was necessary to shake up a regular transaction, find out why Farah 12.5 V instead of 14 as it should be. The issue price would be one bottle of contact cleaner and three hours of leisurely work. With the same result.
I don't always, I have, for example, FOUR forward shining bulbs for 55 watt (dipped and fog). And if one suddenly does not turn on — I get 75% of the light. It will be noticeable only after seeing his reflection in someone else's body.
gaidukav
For modern cars this Council will be harmful, because this connection of lamps through the relay is removed completely from the work system control of serviceability of lamps. ie the driver from the salon did not know that he burned down one of the lamps. And judging by the difference of impedance relays and lamps on the collection tubes immediately after you turn on the ignition should illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp.
if the bulb in the headlamp is not lit, you'll see soon))))
For modern cars this Council will be harmful, because this connection of lamps through the relay is removed completely from the work system control of serviceability of lamps. ie the driver from the salon did not know that he burned down one of the lamps. And judging by the difference of impedance relays and lamps on the collection tubes immediately after you turn on the ignition should illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp.
Interesting. But you have to read carefully all the "comments", there's a lot of need. I'd add that the got rid of the burning out of light bulbs BS on the 18 year old Frontera eliminating 1.bumpy lights (replaced all plastic hrenovica) 2. cleared all the ground for the headlights 3. put ceramic pads with sturdy clamps directly on the bulb (this is probably the most important thing at burnout). Shoes bought in the shop "auto Parts GAS."
but without them all I will have of religi with devices to look for there will be hard.
On account of the copper You're absolutely right. But in the contact pairs of the relay is not copper, and some alloys.
I'm not going to argue, but I am 6 years in the hands with a soldering iron, and it so happened that I saw the oxidized relay only in the case when they were in the water, and ate them electrolysis. One relay video literally disintegrated into dust, into dust.
The rest — they are usually as good as new ...
Here just did 3 covers the usual relay of black, 1 of them 8 years on the shelf lies ... well Nove. Shines like new. Two other cars — also lay 5 years after use, perfectly clean ... including contacts.
Well this is my practice. Mostly they die from electrolysis, and this moisture is needed closer to 100 percent ...
About the length and wire size agree. And about the oxidation...
I just always thought that metal is oxidized by oxygen. And oxygen is in the air. That is, even from the air oxidation occurs.
Maybe I'm wrong. Consider the oxidation of water. Normal humidity is about 60 percent (i.e. in the air is the percentage of water). While in the rain or even just in the autumn, the humidity rises to 100 percent.
Chemistry. School program. Grade 8
VadimRnd
The machine is provided family relay. So you have done exactly the same scheme as is already in the car. the difference is that you put everything new and the car are already oxidized religi, connections, and so on. If everything is to disassemble and clean — the effect is the same
relays in the car are not oxidized ... if there not water falls.
the problem is the thickness of the standard wire length from relay to lamp.
here people in fact leads a normal thrown and length is probably smaller. even on the new machine, which only left the cabin for the reasons described above the lamps will never be the voltage as the battery.
not all of the machines they are on my Golf 3 1995 did not have them, I also put go and rejoice in the obtained bright light
The machine is provided family relay. So you have done exactly the same scheme as is already in the car. the difference is that you put everything new and the car are already oxidized religi, connections, and so on. If everything is to disassemble and clean — the effect is the same
byPodym
I have the same problem...the middle does not Shine, nichrome, and far very rotten, and pressed on so shines bright and the lamp is too far on the tidy brightly lit, release-again nichrome is not visible...despite the fact that the bulbs are 100/90 watt BL...th(
100 watts, not better, the focus shifts to the spiral...
and I have a jumper when you pull the dragonfly itself is brighter in the original release a little weaker, and therefore pose a handling
Ice107
In Farah goes 1 lamp in the middle and far (matter how two). So when you lit the middle one thread, and when you switch to a far another. And when you pull on itself the lever switch near/far mode is blinking, in which light from 2 threads, so more light. But so do harmful long ride, lights on the idea of a faster burn.
garbage. I have the jumper and when you turn the far middle continues to burn, as can be clearly seen that the far brighter when you pull the switch in the mode of the blinking.
vitek8825
Wanted a go too fasting, but after reading so many negative comments among the "experts"-I don't want it!
And the fact that so much negativity I myself ofigel
Wanted a go too fasting, but after reading so many negative comments among the "experts"-I don't want it!
what about the coil ground from the generator to start? or that responese as there podmutil and naslyshen and do not know how to match
All depends on the individual case, on the injectors there is no sense that the coils are always there. Common wire and ground to the body makes sense too. The Americans for example posting current thinner than ours(GOST) and the Germans.
Anubis
Came to 12.5 V at what current?))
It's not switching as such, but rather in the wires in their cross section and length. If we take the genes from your battery to put a ~35kV.mm.or thicker wire to the mounting block immediately feel the difference on a simple machine, even on the tidy barely noticeable, what can we say about the spark and the fuel pump. Same with the mass which the body lies.
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on the injector if photolyse square wire will introduce the effects are?
Came to 12.5 V at what current?))
It's not switching as such, but rather in the wires in their cross section and length. If we take the genes from your battery to put a ~35kV.mm.or thicker wire to the mounting block immediately feel the difference on a simple machine, even on the tidy barely noticeable, what can we say about the spark and the fuel pump. Same with the mass which the body lies.
It may be useful www.drive2.ru/l/5973334
LehaKST
but the meaning of this installation? Akuma just straight plus, but not through the block of preda... tension is lost on the length of the wires and no more. fasting I would not call it, because the load on the generator remains the same, just schema changes... if good wiring in the car, the difference never notice
The point is that no longer goes through the stalk switch. And it will not melt and does not burn in one day.
My 26y. o., all new wiring:D, but in General rather the effect of a given light bulb, I have this diagram too long ago found, man in detail, she was painted as unacceptable in calapan hid himself electrician razgovarival men were at work, too, doubt special effect... if this helped you it's good) I wouldn't even try to do on my headlights and so 13.8 V))
Alex, call it what you will, the effect is and I'm happy. And what the hell good wiring on the car which is a quarter of a century? ))
but the meaning of this installation? Akuma just straight plus, but not through the block of preda... tension is lost on the length of the wires and no more. fasting I would not call it, because the load on the generator remains the same, just schema changes... if good wiring in the car, the difference never notice