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HBO or Nuego? - Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L, 2001

HBO or Nuego  - Toyota 4Runner 34L 2001

So. I bought the car already with HBO installed. It is a track there, of course, 4th generation, full automatic, 6 nozzles, two gearboxes, blah blah blah, a toroidal balloon instead of a spare wheel. And this is the main jamb) Since I am wary of gas (maybe out of ignorance, or maybe just out of habit), and then it’s problematic to put the spare wheel somewhere in the summer ... I’m still thinking, but not if I need to remove the gas?
Saving? Well, yes, maybe there is. But where to shove the spare tire?
Putting a rear enforcer with a wicket? This involves replacing the rear door with a "receiver" for a spare tire from Surf = hemorrhoids.
Throw it into the salon? I need it empty, since a sleeping place is planned there. Throwing on the roof - this is a sail that will add to the flow and eat up all the savings from gas.
In short, I'm right in confusion.
Removing the gas is not so expensive, of course - about 5000 complete dismantling with a plug of all technical openings after the gas.
Can someone say something to the smart one? Will lead you on the right path

HBO or Nuego  - Toyota 4Runner 34L 2001 Mileage: 180,000 km
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komarroff 20.12.20

Nifiga did not understand about the trunk.
The reserve on the runner hangs in the state from below, there is now a cylinder. She climbs into the trunk (into the salon) with a whistle, but there will be a sleeping place, because there is no place for her there. The basket remains on top, it is not large, yes. It is narrow, and the length is almost up to the hatch. There is simply "maza" to replace the basket with a wider one, so I think about it. It's an option to leave the HBO in place.

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Postal398 20.12.20

They survived) Outlander owners cannot find where to throw a spare tire))
And how is it under the hood? Well, and on the roof, if this is not such a sail ... navryatli it will slow down so much ... Of
course I wanted to be surprised if the trunk is really so small that the wheel will not fit in addition to the cylinder, but after looking at the size I thought about it)

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komarroff 20.12.20

Sail, since I will mostly ride along the highway, because I don't move around the city almost by car, nafig) Naturally, there will be no sail in the city, but I think it will add a hundred on the highway for 100-120 liters)))

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ramz 20.12.20

You will probably carry a spare tire while standing? Ride on gas for a week and feel the difference in how much money you eat without a sail -) a properly set gas has only advantages.

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Postal398 20.12.20

komarroff

There is another option. "technological", so to speak))
Slightly alter the basket on the roof, making it more streamlined. To do this, you just need to put an inclined panel (such as a spoiler) on the face of the basket, which will cut off the flow above the trunk and prevent air from being sucked in under it
Photo of approximate factory options added above

Well, the second option is good)

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komarroff 20.12.20

yes, because now at a speed of 80 or more the noise from above is already quite noticeable.

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ramz 20.12.20

This is perfectly normal, and the fairing will probably reduce the noise from the bare basket bars.

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komarroff 20.12.20

There is another option. "technological", so to speak))
Slightly alter the basket on the roof, making it more streamlined. To do this, you just need to put an inclined panel (such as a spoiler) on the face of the basket, which will cut off the flow above the trunk and prevent air from being sucked in under it
Photo of approximate factory options added above

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dimamrs 20.12.20

It is more difficult for you on the one hand and easier on the other. It is easier because in case of dissatisfaction with the work of LPG equipment you have to ask someone, but it is more difficult because the prices are higher and the need to travel long distances is much more urgent. I fill my 92nd at 0.91USD per liter, i.e. 0.7 EURO. And even at a consumption of 20 liters for a "hundred" it does not hit hard. In extreme cases, I can take the car less often.

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sascha0777 20.12.20

Well, in this you are completely right! In Germany, we don't bother with the quality of gasoline!
We bother with gas prices! 1.5 € per liter give reason to think about how to adapt the engine not adapted for gas (as on some Japanese people)! And this is not done by private traders, but by big firms!
So they came up with and tested the system with Flashlube!

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dimamrs 20.12.20

Oh! I didn't think that in Germany you have to bother with the quality of gasoline!
Yes, about economists, you are right, but nevertheless, I think that engines designed to run on a particular brand of gasoline should work on it. And everything else is not good.

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sascha0777 20.12.20

Well, bothering with the quality of gasoline at the gas station every day and flushing the nozzles every MOT is easier than once to think "what exactly and how to install"! =)
Having paid 100-200 € for the Flashlube-system, you can adapt the engine to work on gas!
And I know these engineers from the factory! Economists sit over them and count every penny! What prevents, for example, putting high-quality valve seats on the conveyor ?!

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dimamrs 20.12.20

Another argument in favor of the fact that it is worth thinking ten times before bothering with installing LPG equipment on cars that were not originally designed to run on gas. It's another matter if the engineers provide for such an option from the factory.

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sascha0777 20.12.20

dimamrs

I will say it as the owner of the T4R 5VZ-FE. There are no hydraulic lifters on our motors. The valve clearance is adjusted exclusively with washers. Therefore, if you really plan to drive constantly on gas, then you need to very carefully establish the required gap and in the future constantly monitor that this value does not go beyond the tolerance limits. Otherwise - burnout of valves, cylinder head gaskets with all the consequences ... Gasoline in this regard "spares" the engine. Therefore, it's up to you: to have or not to have)))

To cool the valves on such engines, it is advisable to use something like Flashlube.
Then the valve will not burn out!

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komarroff 20.12.20

And I have already decided. He left the HBO for every fireman. He removed the button for turning on the HBO from the panel and hid it inside so as not to accidentally press it. So my choice is gasoline.

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dimamrs 20.12.20

I will say it as the owner of the T4R 5VZ-FE. There are no hydraulic lifters on our motors. The valve clearance is adjusted exclusively with washers. Therefore, if you really plan to drive constantly on gas, then you need to very carefully establish the required gap and in the future constantly monitor that this value does not go beyond the tolerance limits. Otherwise - burnout of valves, cylinder head gaskets with all the consequences ... Gasoline in this regard "spares" the engine. Therefore, it's up to you: to have or not to have)))

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komarroff 20.12.20

Apparently, peace of mind is more important to me than economy) And with gas, well, I just can not achieve that very peace. And my Ichthyologist doesn't eat so much)

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Temir-han 20.12.20

if savings are not important, then take off nafig ... all the more, you can sell the removed HBO by returning a certain amount: 0)
I drive on gas because of savings ... the installation paid off in almost 3000 km