What causes attempt to save money, or buying broken car
I would like to touch on the subject of buying a car "under restoration" and what it eventually pours, a concrete example.
And so one of our clients purchased GL 2011 release, engine м273 4.5. With damage to wing, bumper, headlight. Bought cheaper than market 300 000. However, the engine wouldn't start. But the seller claimed that the problems with it are not present. He came to us the first task was to start the engine, and then restore. Before having decided to scroll through the knee, spun on the floor of turnover, and, on the way.
Decided to remove the sump and see if everything was okay. And guess what we saw ?
View of unit from below
spare parts remaining in the recycling process )))
ring
valve
pan and the fact that it
As you know the engine can not be restored, all ground into dust. The seller naturally merged. Motor costs 200 000 at least and the hell knows in what condition.
And so inspection of the car showed a lot of stocks, such as the absorber on the duct tape. It is still unknown what condition the box, transfer case, etc.
It is still unknown what condition the box, transfer case, etc.
I have it all, that's what. Do not create unnecessary problems themselves, freebies no. Well maybe it is but only in 1% OF 100, and even that's questionable.
All smooth roads and good luck !
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Everybody always say that, but everyone wants
And even better all for free))))
))) This is straight to the point. Want cheap and good, but it turns out as always)))
igorek-theOne
As they say krolowa leads to popadalovo...
Everybody always say that, but everyone wants
People feel sorry for the dough with the purchase of am, that's the result... A beating without inspection in service generally contraindicated buy.
virya
of course, I've seen fiercely killed dragony, but it is a request for the win!))
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The money is not small, 1300000
ahiret! and buy for that kind of money on eye?!
Damn it anyways, then buying even for what is 200 Tr, though, and knowing that it is difficult norms for the money, but still at least ride, then went to a friend avtoremontniki to examine, to listen, even just the idea to have a car at the moment. It's clearly the case, the car is old and out could be anything at any time, but I mean that a considerable money should be more responsible.
Vivan
Pffff finally I do not understand people who give more paulusma for the car and regret 5 Tr to the diagnosis, "without the sucker and life is bad" thought the sellers for this bucket)
well, at least hodovku shake on the lift to look at her from below, compression of view.
I do not like is money compared to the overall renovation:)
Well, at proffi understand, however, the customer who bought it techie. And Yes, competently. And the motors are belt?
Well, usually gramatno with such purchase to measure compression, in this case it would be immediately clear that some sort of hnya)))
Pffff finally I do not understand people who give more paulusma for the car and regret 5 Tr to the diagnosis, "without the sucker and life is bad" thought the sellers for this bucket)
mdaaa... killed in the trash, only instead of having to finish this "horse" (send to parse), sell it cheaper, it's ours.
well, as always seems profitable, but in the end it turns out cheaper to buy a whole
Yes, even have friends take, is always to check everything thoroughly on the diagnosis. How much savings of time, effort and money! BUT the Thirst for freebies stronger))))
This is how the engine spin that would have grind . And as the buyer is not alerted that the engine would not start .Even if the starter is twisted, when such a malfunction by far the wedge will be .
Ahmad422
you can buy it... simply can not believe in the word of the seller... you do not listen to it... and thoroughly look
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you can buy it... simply can not believe in the word of the seller... you do not listen to it... and thoroughly look
3L0y-k0Lxo3Nik41
horror, I thought this does not happen to Mercedes x)))
Mercier a bunch of motors gumoralnah
3L0y-k0Lxo3Nik41
horror, I thought this does not happen to Mercedes x)))
This is not byvaet Mercedes in their homeland, and we have...)))
no, I'm kidding of course, same car, but the quality of components and Assembly they have a very good and protection is there any need to do that to the car so zagrobit.
It's not GL — it cramps, just didn't get but he at least got to ' officials on their own though when you start the motor the chain rattled and crackled, while padavan said it was the timing chain tensioner ( hard to believe on a good condition motor ) although the seller said that motorom all good, had to nakakatawang not only the computer, but the diagnosis and measurement of compression at least a 4-cylinders prior to arrival at the box padavan said that the chain tensioner is 135$ and the problem is solved, the verdict from the dealer was for the repair of motor 4500$ + (the price is not accurate)+ killed rear suspension in the end full rasstroistv even don't want to haggle!
umc1000
Oh how it seems like the insurance Morocco, , ,
Or failed insurance Morocco)))))
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Judging by some of the body parts, put the motor navesele broken AF, supposedly broken
well, or dispersed and drove...in short the engine was killed before the accident, and the accident is either bogus, or as you say!
Judging by some of the body parts, put the motor navesele broken AF, supposedly broken
I think the motor has already been laid! and the owner knew! possible insurance the car you have insured and drove!
Yes entry on the money in short a complete restoration and finishing to mind is more expensive than the purchase of the machine type! and on the subject know been there already just for bolie deshovom car.friend bought in spite of it all and then he became a common problem. just sold lucky on the course played and only
Strictly, of course, the buyer got:(
Here it was necessary though as that diagnosis to hold, although 300K savings for a bit of car for 1300000 — the same doubtful. Usually recovery takes a few other cars, not Glci:)
He's in a transformer failed to transform?parsik he is still under the hood, we can only sympathize...
cheap cheese in a mousetrap and the garbage.
let go with peace ...and will punish him the punishment God...
tricked because he's probably only myself...
I mean, petrol М278?
motor to look in visiotors or just Google, about 221 of the manual a bunch, about 7G-Tronik aka 722.9 is also excellent materials, like #
That's right, everyone has their own cockroaches))))
I'm sorry, can not by the way, have a desire to buy 221й with the Biturbo motor, directiong (600й).
Can you tell anything about this version?Thanks in advance.
All when buying the car pay attention to broken not broken, to pay attention to (engine, transmission, electronics ), which in effect eats up money, don't bother.
Free cheese is only in a mousetrap... don't see them ever for free...
If it sells much cheaper so there is a catch.
I'll be honest, the endoscope is not a panacea, in this case probably would solve the issue, but not zabivaem we're talking about the 2011 car, sold as the car suffered from an accident, focus on the engine, no one did
And that, in the modern world, the endoscope over a thousand rubles do not enjoy, at least in the engine to look for when buying remove the candle or cool it is necessary to disassemble in order to twist them? :)
And Oh Yes, cheese in a mousetrap only happens in 99 out of 100 cases.
Nivan797
necessary to carry on the practice, otherwise there will be here such unplanned repairs...
the engine died in the accident?
I read somewhere an interesting history of Audi repair after small accident (front wing she flew): like it did on the tin, all is well. the owner of the car was taken away, and a week later arrived on the tow truck with stalinowskim engine. they began to understand and found that injured in an accident cover timing belt has cracked. it is not noticed during the installation of the casing broke off a small piece that got between the belt and the gear. the belt slipped and the pistons met with valves...
rather on the turnover of the accident by jamming dvigla
yeah, I saw. it seems that rolled wham, and then assigned under the kind of slightly broken.
necessary to carry on the practice, otherwise there will be here such unplanned repairs...
the engine died in the accident?
I read somewhere an interesting history of Audi repair after small accident (front wing she flew): like it did on the tin, all is well. the owner of the car was taken away, and a week later arrived on the tow truck with stalinowskim engine. they began to understand and found that injured in an accident cover timing belt has cracked. it is not noticed during the installation of the casing broke off a small piece that got between the belt and the gear. the belt slipped and the pistons met with valves...
gold (meaning expensive) rule on examination: any machine or node that is not working (does not turn on, will not start, no flickers, etc.) are considered faulty and their cost automatically is negotiable.
IMHO, the inspection of other units, contract, engine, sale. Or bringing to mind.
just when buying you should be extremely careful and pre-estimate what you take and the number of required attachments
Yes, there, nothing, such, think the buyer is, to put it mildly stupid, and believed in the word, the sellers are still storytellers, it was necessary to take a key and to rotate the engine, once it fails to start and there are already judged what and how battered and not battered visually, the purchase of any machine can result in, I have a friend bought a car and drove it home, on the road flowed pump, and ears antifreeze, gauge did not show overheating, and the one that was driving before you blow the engine in the end, pulled it home, and had to change the engine, that's all, millions of such stories, but the record is about the engine scoring
So it is logical for the price of 300,000 R cheaper market. 200 mill and 100 working. Prodavan the engine has not been opened, he certainly didn't know what was inside. Have clininal all. Buying a broken car is always a roulette and you have to be prepared for any surprises at the opening. Well, to scroll the engine a starter while buying it is the bounden duty of a check on wedge and knock super cheap car! Low price just is not there. One to blame here except himself and his gullibility.
If the motor won't start - so it should not be in the price, no matter how perfect he may be in the words of the seller. And here osetek now asking =)))
And interestingly, from everything I see such obvious popadalovo, and still fall that way everyone can.It all depends on how intelligently we will present a "best" option.
KAW
The thirst for freebies off the part of the brain which is responsible for the intelligence...
100%
The thirst for freebies off the part of the brain which is responsible for the intelligence...
and where does the broken wing? it is clear that we need immediately to consider what was happening, if the engine does not start, then immediately have to dismiss the contract price or capitali, and if a fool buys duck though battered, though polished
Yes good, but only if the machine somehow goes then, but not nearly on the eternal joke )
No luck with the purchase and to save some 300 thousand from the purchase of the machine is a good thing. But it was either to trade at the risk is not opened or the car to turn right .
It is now possible easier for parts gelding to sell...
Horror of course with the motor...one Hundred pounds and the automatic transmission isn't working...
gaevoi
I'm after buying the apartment he promised something BU buy it new and Africa new
BU-ha-ha) With this approach you every time the wife is a virgin it is necessary to look)) the Main fact, so as not to break, and the gelding and the new is now pouring. And 100k is generally Russian roulette) ride on YAP for 200 thousand and buzzing about the new) here in this resource is meant to be.)
Remon capital in the new to do but at BU initially, all cracking crashes wikizines and then repair
But with the new German digicom are not comparable, even more so - no problem, what the Germans constructively laid. in General the owner ahead of the game) And his decision depends only on him)
Then you can Bang from kukuruzari or other Japanese - Vaughn - Pajero-2 are still running) are Comparable to buying a new dvigla for the price?
Of course all the Germans as simply Achtung (premium not more reliable than Chinese cars became) honestly, I understand that this situation is fear. but all feasible. The only way to mend brand multi-media to stand is troublesome. But specialists have the same how to check engine temperature itself in the old IKS has put the media from the new — there are specialists in Moscow-St. Petersburg.
It's not an old bucket) in it, as you say, all the electrics on the beard will go. And box what? From Jay?
A four-wheel drive how to implement?
You just do not seem to imagine the amount of work on the installation of Jay in the car.
Yeah, better to buy a new Degas from Mercedes, who after a year so the beard will go
Sharkfv
Guys, what worried? swapna on the other engine) 2JZ-GTE with a gun and all the brains under the swap with yapii write grief'll never know)
Not needed there is no JZ, what you say that)
Replace the brain and wiring and all))) - Body care)))) function haha)))) Well, anyway, I want to say a special thank you to engine manufacturers from Stuttgart, first on the left, a two to say to them, and then on the right add)), They even have books on engine building I read what Mademoiselle. looks like the old engineers retired long ago...
easy to say. it's not a merc shaggy's. this is a new, napichkany electronics GL, it will not work with their engine
Guys, what worried? swapna on the other engine) 2JZ-GTE with a gun and all the brains under the swap with yapii write grief'll never know)
Gets the one who is in this case not cooking!Here's the real divorce.Selling as broken cars(and with dviglom to fool a ride not a ride!)Ride!And the cost of repair and out of the body 50 and the engine 250t.R. A TOTAL of 300T.p(off)
True... for all this discount and give. Although in any case, the broken car — a cat in a bag )
Gets the one who is in this case not cooking!Here's the real divorce.Selling as broken cars(and with dviglom to fool a ride not a ride!)Ride!And the cost of repair and out of the body 50 and the engine 250t.R. A TOTAL of 300T.p(off)
Not at all, but the quality is sooo good. Did he have his ex — was in colour (well, there is more merit of colors), and shagreen. With a minimum of putty was measured after the thickness gauge.
well that at least there is a discount )))
the main thing that the grandmother had been calculated without regard to discounts )))!
I understand that if the buyer did not deign before the purchase to bring the car for inspection, it is not particularly counts the money. Although, why should I buy smitten? Nonsense...
Tanaki
Increasingly convinced that the newer German — the more he is shit.
As you can see not having ))))
Well, what I'm saying?) About the injections I'm talking about a new car. NEW, not old.
Not contradict.Endless injections are not engaged.Ride on the old buckets out of principle.
Like any technology, new and old, everything breaks down sooner or later.
I do not agree with you.
If you're not a rider, and watch properly for the car, on time t/o & repair, where parts are not worst shit then everything will be OK.
Even comparing the s class Mercedes Benz for generations, the last strong in all respects this version of the w140 and the curtain closes.
Recently in Italy the taxi driver bought a w123 in the Museum who passed his entire life 5000000 km Karl!
5000000 Kaaarl!
The car was placed in the Museum there.
Do NOT be surprised.Cars of that time were made for centuries, but as the concept changed the car to 200000 and in the trash and maybe even less, resources aggregates and underestimate it for this, so after 5 years your bucket collapsed.
I wonder how long for a torn valve went that he had visited and in the combustion chamber, everything is destroyed and then another came in a block and there is added... This is how to go just in my head does not fit, the car from America I guess...
What if the motor you look for a Lithuania without attachment?
The price will be less.
Well, if you have a canopy.
To buy battered wheelbarrow when you're not super prosharenye man — the top of idiocy...
People who bought battered wheelbarrow to stupid to go to the service to recover it — diagnosis ))))
Valve tore I understand because of falling pieces of valves off the manifold?
I fully agree with the author — freebie no!
And the miser in our time always pays!)))
I have the engine number didn't even look last time. In any case, everything can be arranged.
Things to buy when understand and clearly understand what you take...well, a finger to the sky with faith in the word — a fool's errand...
If bought below the market 300, strongly let's not upset, sell all for parts, whacks, it's just a chore ) or repair about this amount or slightly more.
In any case, everything in the market is obtained by simply miracle happened.
And generally there is a wonderful opportunity to put the proper motor, not a plasticine, Mr. but (I'm talking about 272/273)
in General, the inspection should have been done -300K, because the motor will not start mean it does not exist. It is the primary inspection of the vehicle, if something is not working — then it is not
How can people not versed in a particular issue, to buy a car with no diagnosis? Even auto, not visually in need of repair, it is necessary to check... and buying broken repair no longer starts the engine? Well, how is it?
I also long ago bought a car under restoration. In the end it all came together. And tsuka are you antivrus in the head flows. Repairs are expensive. Came out more expensive than if bought used.cars.((( no longer linked
Papagos, now 273 you can find the normal Grand for 150 — 170 , if podrachit the Internet to talk to people, + running + liquid oil + work, thousands 450 came. Took cheaper.
"However, the engine wouldn't start. But the seller claimed that the problem with him is not present."
What to say about the buyer, after these proposals? The fact that he is a dumb goof, nothing to say .