Audi A6 3.0 TFSI quattro or what is love without reciprocity
Today I want to talk about my favorite sedan from VAG... of Course the only amendment that I really like the station wagon of this car, but in the absence of Audi A6 allroad 3.0 TDI quattro, let's talk today about the sedan A6 3.0 TFSI quattro.
Full sizeIn General the A6 the C7 generation, there are engines 1.8 TFSI and manual transmission, and God forgive front-wheel drive... But it's all Satanism and black magic! In my opinion, the A6 sedan the only right option is a three-liter petrol or diesel engine and quattro all-wheel drive, but this machine costs in the base now at least 3.9 million rubles...
What should I do? Resale? Yes, resale.
Full sizePurchase Executive sedans VAG for the second masters is probably more fun than the first, and this is one reason. Machines with low mileage, very considerably lose in the price, and regardless of configuration, the average price for a car that new cost about 3 000 000, after five years will be slightly above one million. Yes, it is possible to run into an instance that can please only the owners of "the showdown", and the legendary "reliability" of Volkswagen AG the last factor in lowering prices on the secondary market, but if you approach the purchase of a car seriously, you can and dirt to find the diamonds.
Now I want to explain its decision on small displacement motors, and why the A6 should be taken only with a three-liter powertrains. Well, there actually all is simple – they are reliable. Originally designed for expensive cars, they have laid a sufficient tensile strength. When both motors from "all Skoda" and other obscurantism is made so that, paying little initially (well, in the understanding of Volkswagen AG) for the A6 with 1.8 TFSI motor that is nearly 2.5 million rubles, the people were just the most "legendary" reliability, and as a consequence need to make small but regular offerings for service and parts to VAG in any case not lost that the difference in price for the car with the top reliable motor.
Therefore, only the three-liter diesel compressor motor, or a three-litre diesel. They have proven themselves the lesser evil, and with timely and proper maintenance go a very long time.
Now to the machine itself.
Today we have dorectal 2011 release, but purely visually, the difference between the 2010 car and car of 2018, will see only people who are interested in the question. Slightly different optics, wheels, exhaust tips, bumper... In General, one and the same.
Full sizeAppearance generation C7 I can call great. Though this body has been living for eight years, during which the automotive fashion has changed almost radically, and the Germans in March 2018 has introduced the new sedan and wagon A6, C8, C7 today does not look outdated.
I don't know if Audi is visionary ahead of his time, or omitted to come up with something new they have not, but apparently C8 is not so much radically different from the C7, as, for example, its direct competitor, the Mercedes-Benz E-Class W213 which completely changed relative to its predecessor W212.
For those who want to buy a car on the "secondary market", but still not the first freshness, this situation will be an advantage, as people are not always able to understand the old if You have a car or not.
Full sizeSalons cars are often the same, boring, but it does not say that they are bad. I do not want to descend to the stamps of the verified German ergonomics, but it's true.
Full sizeSeats have leather seat upholstery, beige leather Valcona. The material is very durable and pleasant in texture. For business class cars – this is an important fact.
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Full sizeBeige leather complement the inserts on the panel of the ship's oak Beaufort. In the cabin creates a pleasant atmosphere in the car is not tired, as long as it is not spent. This is a big plus bright salons that overrides the impracticality thereof
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Full sizeThe location of the foot relative to the seat and the seat relative to the steering is that despite the unregulated pedals, gives you the opportunity to sit down conveniently to the person of any growth.
Full sizeControls, from the selector control robotized transmission and joystick control multimedia MMI cent, ending under the steering switches and a lever opening of the door, everything is in its place. And even if static it seems that "How was it possible to think of this" after you drive 15 miles on the car, the hands themselves will form so that it is convenient to use the controls. Moreover, everything will be intuitive, and after a few hours, you'll begin to catch yourself thinking about, "how can you do all this otherwise?".
The trunk has a volume of 530 liters. If the big three had agreed among themselves, as these figures are identical and have the A6 and E-class and 5 series.
Since it is a VAG, there awaits us a lot of interesting and not always standard (read logical) technical solutions, and in this car is the most interesting.
As I already wrote above, the machine is equipped with the 3.0 TFSI motor. Let's see what it is.
The 3.0 TFSI is an all aluminum V6 c angle collapse of the cylinders 60 degrees and a swept volume of 2,995 cm3.
Innovation in this block for so many. It is built on the basis of the old atmospheric engine V6 FSI working volume of 3.2 liters.
The timing is a complex system of chains, which in addition to the camshaft locked and the actuator high pressure fuel pump HDP 3 and the oil pump. The direct injection of fuel FSI.
Full sizeThe system of variable valve timing there is installed only on the intake camshaft.
The supercharger is Eaton compressor with a mechanical drive. Installed it in the collapse of the cylinders, thereby to achieve compact size of the power plant.
Since the motor has considerable power, all the studs and bolts were replaced with new ones that are made from more durable steel.
During peak loads, the temperature of the oil may go far beyond 130 degrees, and the motor is equipped with a regular oil cooler.
All this allowed to remove from a motor power equal to 300 HP in the range 5250 — 6500 rpm and a torque of 440 N*m in the range 2900 — 4500 rpm.
Generally, this compressor V6 is probably the most stable petrol engine VAG. Relatively small motors, this unit is quite a resource, and if we shouldn't get lost with chip tuning, and to serve him not as recommended by the dealer, it shall be well with him. But maybe not... it's VAG.
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The motor is joined with a robotic seven-speed gearbox S-Tronic DL501 index. This clever and very fast transmission developed at BorgWarner specifically for Audi. As the motor box is relatively reliable, and able to hold a torque of 600 Nm.
The weak point of this box is the control unit. Despite the fact that the box can keep the locomotive torque, for some reason, it left exactly the same control unit, such as, for example, DQ250, which are equipped with all-wheel drive crossover Skoda Yeti.
Fast starts with lunch control contribute to the rapid deterioration of the drums and as a consequence appearance in transmission fluid metal shavings that clog the solenoids. The clutch is usually the node that endures to the end.
Full sizeOur A6 has the drive to all four wheels of the quattro type. On C7 is already the sixth generation of this all-wheel drive system, and it is built around the asymmetric limited-slip center differential Torsen, which is made in a single body with a robotic gearbox S-Tronic. In the initial position the distribution of torque along the axes at a ratio of 40:60, and when the coating becomes slippery, or need to accelerate, the electronics can drop up to 70% of torque to the front axle or up to 85% on the rear
Having such characteristics, it is difficult to imagine that they can someone not arrange, but nevertheless, very often the cars of concern VAG subjected to chip tuning.
Full sizeBuying factory configuration A6 C7, the owner of this car, after driving a while "in the flow", yet decided to chip the motor and transmission.
In addition to the chip tuning St 1 have been deleted already cracked for nearly 100 000 km of run of the first catalysts and installed aftermarket downpipe. The peculiarity of this procedure is that after removing the catalytic converters, engines 3.0 TFSI start to ring and buzz of the exhaust during acceleration. This problem was solved by installation of a standard second catalysts from the wolf in sheep's clothing baby Audi RS Q3, after which the motor sounded as it should, without any extraneous noise.
To be fully confident in the engine, was replace the timing chain, chain tensioners, all related bolts, gaskets and springs. As in engines with direct injection and turbine soot is formed much faster, than at usual atmospheric engines with distributed injection of fuel were purged valve, throttle valve, and intake and exhaust manifolds.
As a result, during the test, the machine had a capacity of 420 forces and 520 N*m of torque, which radically changed the acceleration to 100 km/h in 5.6 seconds, to 4.3 seconds.
For comparison, a well built Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII goes about the same, but while driving the A6, there is no feeling what You're all going to die, or as if the car flies off into space.
The compressor "blowing" from the bottom, giving a fat business sedan weighing 1.8 tons, the same dynamics as prepared cars for street racing, and there is absolutely no congestion, the indentation in the chair, or the wild roar, like a Formula 1 car. You just accelerate, and do it with comfort.
Full sizeThe behavior of the compressor personally, I much nicer behaviour of the turbine. If the turbine has a maximum performance in a certain rpm range of the crankshaft of the motor, the compressor "pulls" throughout the range of engine operation from idle to Redline.
Full sizeI would also like to talk about the behavior of the system of a full drive quattro. Although she is rightfully the best all-wheel drive of the entire German Troika for off road but on the pavement of the A6, having initially front-wheel platform, it is perceived, ironically, as a front wheel drive car. The miracle did not come.
I in any case do not say that quattro is no good, but on pure asphalt Mercedes-Benz and the 4matic or BMW with X-drive, give more absolutely other impressions from driving.
Audi have some kind of frigidity that is. It just goes fast, gives the opportunity to ride in the snow, she does it all, and she doesn't know or care that the driver at this time can reflect on what cafes to call in the evening, or to plan spending for a month.
Full sizeUpsets only the energy suspension. It's actually the same as the first generation Audi Q7, and if you go on the road of the plates, each mounting joint and every bump will be given in Your head with a sledgehammer. From it can not escape, you can try to change the components of the front and rear multi-link suspensions on more robust or athletic, but radically it doesn't change anything.
The suspension will still beat, and the car significantly loses in comfort, despite the fact that the capacity of the factory suspension is more than enough to keep cornering the car with the increased power.
For 100 000 km of run native brake discs are turned into shaggy was replaced with brake discs with perforation from Otto Zimmermann brake pads with installation of the same firm. The main advantage of this solution is that the brakes do not lose their effectiveness even after several slowdowns with speeds over 180 km/h. the Operation of the ABS system on the Audi I've always loved. More precisely, how to say like... About what triggered the anti-lock system can only be understood by looking at the dashboard, when flattered by the indicator lamp. All. No extraneous noise and the beating of the pedal here and can not be considered.
Full sizeIn spite of such furious power under the hood, the A6 is quite friendly to the urban bustle, to daily commuting, in store, and at the same time she is practical.
Today directionaway C7 A6 with the 3.0 TFSI engine in not the poorest complete set asking cost the average dealer configuration, the new Škoda Octavia.
Yes, of course, to buy with the mileage for such a complicated vehicle is a big risk, because there is a high probability of running into an instance that will please only the owner of the automobile disassembly. But if you approach the issue of choice seriously, then we can in the dirt to find the diamonds.
Full sizeDared to take a risk, opens a very different automotive world, which will be a very high level of comfort and excellent dynamics, which can always be a budget to improve so that the potential of units without even losing a resource is very high.
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Serge9996
a billion measurements already done by all and Sundry, from any office she travels to area 4,0-4,3 sec
The 4.6 is closer to the truth
a billion measurements already done by all and Sundry, from any office she travels to area 4,0-4,3 sec
And there is a measurement on reslogic from 0 to 100 in 4.3 seconds? Or is it promised in tuning Studio?
... Reduce the cost with Regards to cars, the production cost increases from year to year. Save, Yes. But not on security. I myself am an engineer in the gas turbine. If the aim was to provide a resource, you must provide, and what materials will be applied to this, another question, so that the main product of TK matched. So brad, this is exactly what You wrote.
Nonsense, take any equipment now, do so to reduce the cost, consequently quality suffers, and it's not just with cars
Avassss
I told you about a specific example, about VAG. Something about VAG, I argue that the G8 "slush to this than B7, C7 worse than S6, etc.
Not only do I work with them, touch your hands, so to speak, but exploiting.
Curious, what other criteria do You evaluate the "fragility" of modern bodies, than the thickness of the wall elements? A valid comparison can be made only on the basis of repeatability of the experiment. Or look at the NCAP tests either do not look anywhere. Reliably repeat the head-on collision on public roads is extremely difficult. Because all the squats and aluminum honeycomb on the obstacles, velocities, collisions, etc. and this is all not to mention the fact that the mounted elements are not particularly participate in the safety of passengers, but the inner frame are, as a rule, if doing thinner than the previous generation, and steel grade change in favour of a more expensive but durable.
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...but in court...
And:
If you see a problem, the problem will not be a problem if you don't do this problem.
From the point of view of security is fierce nonsense to claim that C8 is less secure than the C6.
I told you about a specific example, about VAG. Something about VAG, I argue that the G8 "slush to this than B7, C7 worse than S6, etc.
Not only do I work with them, touch your hands, so to speak, but exploiting.
It's not about meeting a Korean with a German, and about Your assertion that the new car of the same brand may be less safe than the older. So, anything like that can not be. And at the same time, one cartoon on the subject:
Statistics is a harsh thing
You just go on the subway? Then I did not see the outcome of "meetings" for example, Korean with the German head-on? With Audi until a tear that is wearing the skin on itself, getting around in this mess. The thickness(i.e. stiffness) of the metal in the safety critical aspect.
About "Victory": the safest vehicles does not happen, even on parked can a tree fall.
You can see how the thickness of the metal affects the safety? :))) The car "Victory" then it must be the safest.
Outright nonsense about the relative reliability of these engines and S-tronic, even more nonsense about the sameness of mechatronic with Yeti... then read the desire has disappeared. The hand/face.
Body Audi ended at S6, Solaris wouldn't have been lucky at times more, and the Audi is just a salesman. C7, foil and plastic(read from "shit and twigs") as A4 from the body B8. Unpleasant to know, but it is.
It is a pity that the pensioner median strip and the wheel will not buy...
Even if you strain and starve... (((
So it's a washtub. Affairs Tinker...
But podehat to the casino for a sucker comes out )))
Here is BRABUS or AMG on the exhaust is good )))
I would have an Audi with petrol engine now I do not have — no one reliable. The final regulations pilesovinyl motor 3.0 bbj. And for the A6 2.0 d completely and will do, reliably, cheaply and dynamically. Well, or 3.0 tdi. And only the machine 8hp(6hp) from zf
STR8RUNNER
Machine for a pensioner, what is the point of all this power if you don't feel it? Insensitive acceleration and control, which does not cause emotions. It might only CDA to please when the lights go first 🤷🏻♂app
Not saying the car is bad, just those who need emotions, it will not work
Torsen Quattro and decide on this car.
The rest of us.
ABTOBCE
With this approach, most of all the emotions that dick in the hotel Sommer, who yesterday crossed Dmitrovka at a red light and drove into oncoming traffic
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With this approach, most of all the emotions that dick in the hotel Sommer, who yesterday crossed Dmitrovka at a red light and drove into oncoming traffic
Machine for a pensioner, what is the point of all this power if you don't feel it? Insensitive acceleration and control, which does not cause emotions. It might only CDA to please when the lights go first 🤷🏻♂app
Not saying the car is bad, just those who need emotions, it will not work
1. For innovators, where refueling GPN
2. On the other side of the Black river, right
3. CIS shny to Nizhnevartovsk route
I at the quarries near the town do not climbed. At work enough. But guessing I should play:
1. Black Cape
2. near the bypass (close to gas stations and old Surgut)
3. Srsly likely of Surgutneft ' near the bridge.
13 years was not there.
The horror!
Left the visors on the stack it's not safe.
Assorted equipment for loading, including Surgutneftegaz. And another civilian vehicle in the place of work.
Already have 3 from a disposable Skoda 1.8 TSI( before 2 1.6 MPI dull, but reliable ) 1 шкода1.8 TSI with дсг7 passed 250 thousand to changed Megatron and consumables( after 160 to the hub in a circle, humming one but I changed on principle-do it right and everything!) 2.0 RS ran to 160, crumbled cat and 160 wheel hub-replacement in the circle!) now the 1.8 scout vehicle, jumped a chain( he vinoven not provided) A6 wagon Quattro is my dream, but since I live not for himself but for his family that Skoda is that while I can afford it, but the A6 definitely recommend this and any of BU)) in General all you have on the shelves and rightly so, with the exception of opinion about the school!))
It is necessary to write, how many more need to throw money in this machine when you buy it for Lam, then quietly to go and not to tremble.
> Audi have some kind of frigidity that is. ... her absolutely to spit on that driver at this time can reflect on what cafes to call in the evening, or to plan spending for a month.
And what other brand which I can sympathize or recommend a cafe? )))
present at the BU 3.0 v6 timing belt change — there is a motor it is necessary to remove it costs neobichnie
3.0 maintenance will be much more expensive 1.8.
Resource 3.0 will not say. But the 1.8 at 250-300 thousands.km go without problems.
How pathetic are owner of Kia Led and frets grants calls motors less than 2.0 "motors from all sorts of Skodas and other obscurantism". Complexes such complexes.
"boring interior" ha HA. come to the salon Toyota. Here is where you can die of boredom. Audi 10 years will give odds that the Japanese economy-the minimalists.
Good review. A little stretched.
Well, ponaleteli "analysts" and "experts" and the garage that key, SMARTS, mpsy, Skoda))))
It is written well. Catchy. Read to the end. Photo credits. Very well maintained and probably favorite car in the photo. A lot of water but poured and rubbed nicely
about the engines all wrong, and then did not read. you not in the subject.
how many problems owners at the time, brought in a 3.0 T with bullies and makarora in which delicate aluminum blocks and just that — the whole engine replacement. now the situation is partially corrected, but more because of the rather special attention of the owners to maintain and operate.
the current motors 1.8\2.0 vagov also have weak spots, but overall a reliable and highly resistant to significant tuning
they buy a lot of equipment, and by special order, the technique is even painted in the corporate color CIS
That's just Surgutneftegas, in the course of business, and buys — so there you have reserve MAZ-Abusers ))
Well, at the expense of other regions will not say, but Surgutneftegas is actively buys, to replace the Tatras
And what exotic cargo on the background in the pictures )) I mean the dump truck MAZ-MAN. Such only you in the region and work, apparently
What wear drums during lunch? What is this?)))
About 1.8 smiled. My Passat B6 runs parabola, it thousand 320 and all is well) that I raped him with a chip, k04, etc. (still on the chip 210 forces)
Cast iron block, correct pistons, good oil is to drive yourself and go. There unreliable? XS, on the Internet written well. Everyone has weaknesses, Toyotas, perhaps them least of all because of the atmosphere. But here, like nothing critical. In the runoff, so the more.
Barborossa
A pancake as all is difficult-and not easier to take Lechusa and not fooling?Robots, compressors, plastic and plasticine engine turbine...head spin.
You are probably in a parallel reality live, Lexus those years also lifts 😂 And so, in General, when Lexus will start to go and do a dynamic signal as in the circle of young electronics, learn how to do on normal and salons in General, then I'll run to the queue 😂 in the meantime, if premium, the Germans, and to understand the nuances of it interesting))
Barborossa
A pancake as all is difficult-and not easier to take Lechusa and not fooling?Robots, compressors, plastic and plasticine engine turbine...head spin.
Lexus — for a quiet old well, VAG — for emotions☝this😀
A pancake as all is difficult-and not easier to take Lechusa and not fooling?Robots, compressors, plastic and plasticine engine turbine...head spin.
If the article originally stated that the question for dorectal, and not somewhere in the text "we have dorectal", and then everything with the same brush... Not to see the difference between the 2010 and 2018... Seriously? Motors corestyle as much different from Resta, about the author of course did not mention. On doreste if we take the likely global problems — there are flaws in all engines as the 1.8, 2.0 that the Benz that Benz 3.0 is that 3.0 diesel, 2.0 diesel that. On reste is just the most balanced for the price and the taxes and reliability, it will be a 2.0 TFSI ген3, and Yes, it is a reliable motor. 3.0 TFSI you can take just on restayl, because there were SHELLS, and there are no problems with bullies that just yet, and there is a global problem, because everything else, sorry, heal quickly and not so expensive. About box also smiled :)) Damn, the car 8 years, all studied Peresecina, and still appear amateurish text.
It is in Russian. Buy compressor business sedan, vbuhali money in tuning and storm it snow lift spit on the bumper and box. Good use for four hundred horses.
About the unreliability Bahovskih motors says only those who live in ebony and are not able to serve them and all went either on the pots or on Toyotas. Normal motors.
To talk about the car for a long time) but what does it all?₽ we must take it and drive it), and then shares his opinion )
the location of the armrests on the door cards is not convenient direct wildly. seat in lowest position is still high in relation to the stick=(
Here Krasava. Brevity is the soul of wit. People one paragraph expressed the whole point of the purchase. Or go in a rush. or a long but boring. Confirm as the owner of three yapov. Mitsu Outlander, B50 Camry and Rav 4.