Reflections on bridges - logbook Toyota Hilux Surf 1991
When we were going to switch from 32 wheels to 33, we were scared that the CV joints would become consumables ... Nifiga, the CV joints perfectly digested 33. Then, having decided to transfer to 35, we also listened to a bunch of opinions that we would tear the CV joints all the time ... But again everything is ok.
An interesting moment is that a lot of people know that CV joints will be very bad with wheels of 33 or more, they all tell this ... And there are several friends who have cars on CV joints and with 36-37 wheels, and so they are tired of proving that this is possible and just shut up and keep going.
Public opinion and memories of the UAZ on the warriors, and later on the Laplanders, are doing their job, and my husband and I thought about installing bridges.
We considered different options. The simplest thing is to find bridges from the first generation surf. But the price tag for them is not humane, spare parts are hard to find now, and what will happen in 5 years. Yes, and the bridges themselves are not so often on sale.
The next option is bridges from the 70s. It’s not difficult to find bridges, but a piece of the front of the frame with fasteners is much more difficult (they sell mostly with documents for decent amounts, but it’s not advisable to buy this to install bridges.) Installation is quite complicated, a lot of calculations and welding.
Bridges from the 80s are more interesting to us, because the gauge is wider, but as with the 70s, the same problems.
UAZ military bridges. Zero from conservation or just new ones are like Surf and 70 in excellent condition. Installation is easier than from 70, no more difficult than Surf. But it is too difficult to find quality spare parts.
Portals from Volvo are very tempting, they offer great opportunities, but they are too expensive, heavy and there are problems with the selection of disks.
After going through the options, we settled on the warriors (although they bought the front axle from the 70s :))). But the warriors do not recommend several uazovods and acquaintances in the services involved in the bulkhead of bridges. Although there are enough examples of successful installation of warriors on surfs, People are happy with the bridges ride on them.
If you do not do it yourself, but in the service, then installing a warrior (with a complete overhaul) will cost 200,000 plus 2 months.
We are still thinking. If a piece of the frame turns up, then we will put up bridges, if cheap warriors appear, then we will put them up.
In the meantime, the independent ride is not bad.
I decided to add that the bridges from the surf, 70-80 will not increase the clearance, the warriors will add 7-10cm.
honestly? I don’t understand what for so many hemorrhoids. for what? for the sake of the fact that you will have a constant clearance in front? and that's it. Moreover, you yourself write that you have never had problems with independent torsion bars either. This one seems to be some kind of fetish. This money can be spent on something more useful. And the time it takes to install, overcook. fitting and tuning, all the more so, you will always find where to spend it)
If you really want bridges like that, then you can buy a donor of some thread without documents (there are a lot of offers on the forum). and put your body on it. You can ride, the numbers on the frame at the posts will not be checked anyway)
sashk, so many difficulties have already been overcome that sometimes you want something simpler-cut-weld and you're done ...
there is a problem with the mounts. Usually, the mounts are still transferred from the frame, but there are different craftsmen :)
Murmura
Well, for now, we decided not to bother about bridges, because the costs are not particularly justified.
We settled on the option, if possible, to take a UAZ on warriors and build it :) my
husband really wants big wheels :) (there was a lot of time driving a UAZ at 42, everyone remembers him)
Then why do Gorynych? Yul, you and Sasha need to exterminate the porridge in your head ;-). And bridges from 70s are put in a garage without a frame from 70s in 2 weeks ... I didn’t put it, but my friend.
that's right. it is easier to take a ready-made pavement and not even fool around. The right decision!
Well, for now, we decided not to bother about bridges, because the costs are not particularly justified.
We settled on the option, if possible, to take a UAZ on warriors and build it :) my
husband really wants big wheels :) (there was a lot of time driving a UAZ at 42, everyone remembers him)
we are not in a hurry, we just share our thoughts and want to hear the opinions of others.
Murmura
Here I was told that the patrol bridges are considered less reliable and some kind of strain with repairs. In general, I have not found any information about installing them on surfs yet.
That's right from your requests 41-42 rollers bridges of patrols / safaris will crumble. Warriors, too, in my opinion, are not the best option, they are also rather weak and expensive to repair, unlike collective farms. Yul IMHO, look slowly for normal, correct bridges, and then also slowly, as soon as the desire appears. It was not in vain that Gorynych endured so much and you put so much effort into him to exchange him for an UAZ. Just take your time.
what to use there, instructions for beginners:
1. Turn on all-wheel drive
2. Turn on low
3. Turn on the lock
4. Tumble until a characteristic crunch appears.
5. Call a tow truck.
That's all wisdom! :-D
self-block is even harmful with diagonals :( Prinudilovo
is definitely better, but not everyone knows how to use it.
I have an eternal trouble, I always and everywhere love the diagonal! And the self-block is still irrelevant in this case, which is why I want a forced one)
like bridges from pradika fit.
my husband somehow doesn’t like blocking. so we don’t think about them.
In the native gearbox, the self-block was standing, but somehow it didn’t always work. We thought that it had been dead for a long time. But once in the winter in a snowdrift the car was unsuccessfully scrambled during a turn, and it took it and worked.
hmm ... well, what I don’t know, I don’t know! I was thinking here, on the lande prado 90, there is an electric-locked rear axle ... I wonder if it is possible to screw it in place of the Surf one ?!
Here I was told that the patrol bridges are considered less reliable and some kind of strain with repairs. In general, I have not found any information about installing them on surfs yet.
Unfortunately, I have not come across it yet, but I think even on the drive it is not difficult to find the answer from the relevant comrades! ;-)
this option was not really considered, because basically these options are installed, they have not heard about the patrol.
And there is information, what GP and transmission?
why is there no option for bridges from patrol 60 or 61? Eternal, easily accessible! Wash and measure it the most, oh! You can immediately forget about wheels with offset! ;-)
If warriors, then there is a rather expensive option for high-quality components - blocksport;)
I know a person whose warriors with blocksport entrails live with 38.5 boggers, a 300 hp engine. and handout 4.0 in the trial :)
Murmura
he suggested a good option. a car is needed for long trips, but you won’t drive very far on warriors (if you drive with 2-3 cars, it will be difficult to chase those who have a cruising 90-100).
For now, let's leave the Beast as it is and treat it that it has not yet been cured (recently it shows one sore, then another: (). Well, if you suddenly come across cheap warriors, then we take it and get ready for installation :) UAZ, then we take it and build it, and leave the beast as an expeditionary.
and who said that warriors do not go 90-100?)))))
we also had LSD :) but at 33 and with standard gearboxes it’s very good. There are enough of them.
Thanks, I'll knock then. but as long as I'm satisfied with mine, especially behind the LSD. That's when there will be 33 then I think it will be possible to change.
Murmura
now 4.8.
if we refuse bridges, then we will install 5.3
If you get rid of the svisni gearboxes, I will gladly consider the purchase.
So the difference will be small, the warriors have 5.38. A larger IF can be compensated by larger wheels :) And 90-100 they go easily, the main thing is that the motor allows :)
And if you fill up the castor, then there will be beauty on the track in general :)
he suggested a good option. a car is needed for long trips, but you won’t drive very far on warriors (if you drive with 2-3 cars, it will be difficult to chase those who have a cruising 90-100).
For now, let's leave the Beast as it is and treat it that it has not yet been cured (recently it shows one sore, then another: (). Well, if you suddenly come across cheap warriors, then we take it and get ready for installation :) UAZ, then we take it and build it, and leave the beast as an expeditionary.
I support Nikita! Buy not new warriors and install blocksport components! The price of a set for a bridge, including a self-block, is also not small, something like 40, 45 tr! These will walk without problems!
nice ! as far as you can see it is hilux, but you don’t know what the reason for the replacement of bridges was.
For starters:
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this was considered in the version of bridges from Volvo :) Too expensive: (and they are heavy.
The best option for canned food is warriors, the older the better and the block of sports in them. But there were no thoughts from Laplander to put bridges or from Unique?
then it is clear. and for hunting and fishing it’s better not 35, but 33 and a couple of more powerful winches :))
Well, there are always enough clever people to break something. And this loaf is very heavy. stuffed with iron is not weak, it is one of the heaviest among us. Her comrade, not for sports, but for hunting, did fishing. She's like a house on wheels.
well, the UAZ weighs like a surf, so the weight is normal :))
it’s just that you need to be able to ride warriors, usually they learn this for a long time, and from their mistakes.
In general, we know a person who has a UAZ on warriors at 36 tsl, he drives everywhere, ahead of him, and, oddly enough, but bridges live very long. There is one more, he rides 32-35 on warriors, just as he doesn’t understand the road and bridges don’t bother him either. Only now they got rid of blocking a long time ago, because. with them bridges were torn constantly. They say that they haven’t learned to ride with blocks yet :))
So it depends on both experience and skills (namely, the skills of riding military bridges.)
and my husband knows craftsmen who bridges from Volvo (Laplander with native blocks) were torn with 35bogers, although initially the bridges were designed for 40-42 ...
And once, from his words, just on the pavement in a turn. UAZ is larger and very heavy for him. as a driver, he is not very bad.
on warriors, and even with blocks, you need to be able to ride ...
The option to take a donor is also possible, but it’s not on fire yet, because. and independent suspension is enough. For now, we are just exploring options and necessity.
Yesterday I rode and talked with one local jeeper, he put warriors on a loaf a couple of years ago, and now he also rolled in fbelki. The type of combat loaf has become generally PPC www.radikal.ru/GALLERY/Pa…64ce74a56af8dff5bc183009c I
talked to him on bridges, there is a lock on the back. It was not the first time that fungi tore the axle shafts. While thoughts about the return of collective farms are wandering, they say spare parts are worth a penny.
Several times I saw hallux pickups on bridges for sale, without docks they cost a symbolic 40-70t.r did you think to take this as a donor of bridges?