The miracle of the Chinese automotive industry. Chery Fora 2.0. Engine repair
In the summer the neighbor's garage had requested to change his caps maslosemnye on this machine.
I especially didn't want her to be engaged, and there was no time.
Went to rest at sea. It is during this time changed the caps in which the service mo butter she ate and continued to eat.
So what to do began to repair.
After opening the MBC found that the caps are old and no they have not changed.
The owner went to the service to swing right. Those no calls returned the money. As in it even happens!
The motor was inside in a terrible state.
Here in this home was all.
Long and hard to clean and got this result.
Took out the pistons
on the bottom boys tracks from a meeting of valves with pistons.
Rod cap made a stab.
Cleaned the pistons, put new rings and put in place.
Half the valves were bent. Had to buy a new one. It is not clear how the machine worked.
you can see that the half circle is not lapped.
Motor design is terrible. Moreover, this motor could be movecom. there is space for the solenoids Miika on both camshafts and the position sensors of the camshaft on both shafts.
The repair is completed. The ass with the belt. NO TAG, PINS STARS ON THE CAMSHAFT, NO! A little have fallen short and immediately cranking and bends the valve.
Oil does not eat, Hideki stopped pounding, 8 pieces were replaced.
Half of the machine are copied from the Lancer. Salon leather for the fastenings suited to the Lancer.
The suspension arms ski, the subframe and front airbag as we have.
Now about the sad. The car has 4000км and she collapsed tensioner pulley timing belt and bent valve.
The owner turned out took on a CHINESE car CHINESE AFTERMARKET ROLLER timing!
Even so happens))) Here's a story.
Viktorbl4
Awesome ))) is Always compared with citalopram bad word. :)
Yes was the same apparatus from another, the engine shook, constantly in repair was... sold... me too I took cherika bonus at your own risk, 2 years otkatal))) in 70000 only changed the roller and belt with the Ford set, although 100,000 would depart freely, the pump did not change — also Ford took rests until the next replacement... and 1.5 liters 107 liters, quite shustrenko and economical 8 litres of petrol, gas turned 9-by 10 liters in rezvenko mode))) so far, only consumables changed))) the father of China since 2007, GW SOCOOL, this year only changed scalene, front brake disks, the springs, the rest of the consumables — ezdiet every day, the engine was not complaints — 2.2 L ... I think it depends on the machine model, and the quality of the items that set also, the quality of oil, if you pour the cheaper it is long course and will not go... I have for example on my model — if new to take — all necessary oil change immediately especially in transmission — there is not speaking your language that pour — freezes in winter, 50,000 — secured bulkhead transmission — all owners of start says icto weak bearings, and oil gomno ! I changed the time to 2 when the hum has gone, and has been involved with labour — all have disappeared with time — the buzz was gone, right now, on was perfect and in any weather. also the antifreeze leaked when the factory — it is not clear what it was — the stench is in the tank do not understand that. by the way the build of ZAZ — maybe even from the factory depends! Bati build China — such nuances are not observed!
Andrew, no one argues. But it home more.
The only thing that it is cool leather interior.
Mad1987
The neighbor should get rid of it urgently.
tricky question, why when the other breaks Ino was seriously yelling at the owners of the trash to get rid urgently, if the car owner is a moron at least give him super Mitsubishi and it will break, as did my friend killing Lexus in the trash and took it to metal
Mad1987
The neighbor should get rid of it urgently.
It generally is not necessary to buy it)))
alfavit
these cars direct from the factory must under the press to leave.
in six years, just changed the rack . and there is nothing bryakaet and no squeaks on bumps
1Andrey1111111
clear . I wanted to ask the cable of the handbrake in the drum as it is lifted right?
Pull the rubber plug on the drum, her bottom sprocket turns easily with a screwdriver
As far as I remember, no. Has long been changed, not sure exactly. It seems to me after replacing steered it into the tee which is in the tunnel where the exhaust line.
clear . I wanted to ask the cable of the handbrake in the drum as it is lifted right?
It is not on the drive. All these blogs and websites automotive alien, he just goes, and the service and repair I)
alfavit
these cars direct from the factory must under the press to leave.
I do not agree. My father has this, TagAZ Vortex (aka Fora) 2 litre with leather interior, the mechanics 5CT. 6 years — no problems. Service on rules and all. Of all the failures only thermostat, the cable of the handbrake and a couple light bulbs were replaced. NOTHING MORE.
Andryukha I specifically for this car, and a couple of models. And the Chinese are pretty, but the price on them. There's the same specs, N9.
Banner
disposable car for 3 years, then in the ferrous metal. ((( wrap the Chinese are doing is good, but the inside g...
Show me a modern car that is not 3 years
Banner
disposable car for 3 years, then in the ferrous metal. ((( wrap the Chinese are doing is good, but the inside g...
Show me a modern car that is not 3 years
in six years, just changed the rack . and there is nothing bryakaet and no squeaks on bumps
disposable car for 3 years, then in the ferrous metal. ((( wrap the Chinese are doing is good, but the inside g...
So this is the first release of this model was, now they normally do, I can't see now the Chinese are really good cars.
Eckat
Another friend bought a Chery, went sideways in the turn so the body is bent like a banana torpedo says moved 10 cm when traveling in a straight line all came back.
it seems to me under such strain she (the car) had to pop metallum and plastic that can swell up probably))) I would be scared for her to go further))
Eckat
Another friend bought a Chery, went sideways in the turn so the body is bent like a banana torpedo says moved 10 cm when traveling in a straight line all came back.
th for the sheep are the people I porogen
However, he saw with his own eyes the door which made from laminated 200 liter drums, but this was the first release of this model, the following have normal.
Eckat
Don't know the story told by the father of a friend, but his brother told the Chinese what their machines gather for a long time I do not bellow.
One woman said. Here is a discussion of the quality of cars, or collecting gossip? Never had nothing in common with the Chinese, but that's not right, you're our giggles.
I'm the same about consumer electronics read, in Japan, people got to the junkyard this most electronics, there are mountains of all, he asked the guard why so much technology, to which he replied-that's what we give to China, and they raspalaut on parts and solder my own.
Eckat
Don't know the story told by the father of a friend, but his brother told the Chinese what their machines gather for a long time I do not bellow.
Heard such information. In England a lot of cars sent for recycling at shredder installation, where the body of old cars are ground into chips. Then this scrap is loaded onto barges that go to China. There of these waste produce the body of the car. Hence, the quality of metal is better than tin. Plus, painting without primer.
Maybe nonsense, I admit, but about Chery the first editions of many such things heard, now they are normal.
Eckat
Don't know the story told by the father of a friend, but his brother told the Chinese what their machines gather for a long time I do not bellow.
nonsense
butafor-2
The real story, people bought Chery Amulet, a floor of year of departure or year, in General, it's time to pasupatinath under the car.Raised on the Elevator car--and the door is now opened . lowered the car on the "ground" -doors normally otkrivaetsa... Then when ALL the people standing near the lift all the attention at the re-rise of the machines was the body itself--the mechanic slowly raised the lift is very clearly seen as the body of shibetsu, as if in half... and such vpechetlenie that if doors not closed, then the body is simply bent... Actually sags body ... And so---everything seems normal with the car .ride in peace, And it's a new car .
It is so, the body would be bent like a banana, but a brother of a friend who was then working in the workshop, told me they drove Gili problem with the window regulator, removed the video card and the inside of the sticker, it turned out that the door is made from laminated 200 litre drums.
butafor-2
I wrote that HE personally saw it from the words of the owner of the car who beat his chest--told the story.
Beat in the chest malakoi or maybe before that someone naeb-ul montazhki. Enough of this nonsense already.
I wrote that HE personally saw it from the words of the owner of the car who beat his chest--told the story.
butafor-2
The real story, people bought Chery Amulet, a floor of year of departure or year, in General, it's time to pasupatinath under the car.Raised on the Elevator car--and the door is now opened . lowered the car on the "ground" -doors normally otkrivaetsa... Then when ALL the people standing near the lift all the attention at the re-rise of the machines was the body itself--the mechanic slowly raised the lift is very clearly seen as the body of shibetsu, as if in half... and such vpechetlenie that if doors not closed, then the body is simply bent... Actually sags body ... And so---everything seems normal with the car .ride in peace, And it's a new car .
that's what the nonsense about raising the car, was the amulet, raised on lifts and doors open and close perfectly, this is not WHA
The owner of the car personally told himself in the chest beat...I just told.I myself personally have not seen
The real story, people bought Chery Amulet, a floor of year of departure or year, in General, it's time to pasupatinath under the car.Raised on the Elevator car--and the door is now opened . lowered the car on the "ground" -doors normally otkrivaetsa... Then when ALL the people standing near the lift all the attention at the re-rise of the machines was the body itself--the mechanic slowly raised the lift is very clearly seen as the body of shibetsu, as if in half... and such vpechetlenie that if doors not closed, then the body is simply bent... Actually sags body ... And so---everything seems normal with the car .ride in peace, And it's a new car .
Don't know the story told by the father of a friend, but his brother told the Chinese what their machines gather for a long time I do not bellow.
Another friend bought a Chery, went sideways in the turn so the body is bent like a banana torpedo says moved 10 cm when traveling in a straight line all came back.
Fiatofill68rus
Yes, put the additional pump and changed the antifreeze like the rules ( true summer ))))
I have wild heat
I think it's a clogged radiator to put the pump.will not heat. there are radiators gamna
Yes, put the additional pump and changed the antifreeze like the rules ( true summer ))))
Fiatofill68rus
My sister Chery fora, no problem only 3 years old the oven is slightly warm in winter, you wonder about the Chinese ...In any case it is better loboy FRETS on 3 head
do the stove sister like I did . here VIDOS 
My sister Chery fora, no problem only 3 years old the oven is slightly warm in winter, you wonder about the Chinese ...In any case it is better loboy FRETS on 3 head
www.drive2.ru/l/2558420/
Videos timing is better to buy from the official distributor. The stated period of work without problems. The testers-volunteers exceeded the stated mileage before the replacement in 2 times. Although it is better not to experiment.
Usually the fake roller-tensioner has a weak spring that after some time leads to failure.
The design is not very. But pay attention to what the mileage is 180000, and wear of cylinders is almost there.
The engine, of course, is not the best. But under normal service mileage 200000-250000км to repair — the norm.
or anything like that . . on the breeze a cheap the prices were . . . . running before the sale made . . . the main nodes . . . . amorti not been touched . . . worked great . . and the bearings were not touched . . . .spring also left . . . .in General, all that relates directly to adequate handling and comfort were replaced . . . . . left work 12200 . . . . the price tag in the glove box of a BMW is) . . .
That's the thing that took the Chinese Cocotal a couple of years and sold it. Then fine.
And old Chinese is worse than our old. The parts are as original Mitsu;)
not so long ago sold Lifan breeze . . . .
I liked it. . . . better than any of our . . . .West is not the test, but I will be if not better, it is clearly not worse. . . . . .sold for 95 . . . 16 valves . . . all the electro . . air conditioning . . . economical . . .frisky . . . the road is better holds any grants/priors . . and spacious interior in addition
I've test drive the ninth Havel what type of prototype Kruzak watched and waited when the price will tell you when said Ssali boiling water, 2.2 mil, I'd like to see what kind of woodpecker will buy this car
I remember at the time the head start was advertised as "much improved Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0":)
the entire Chinese auto industry into the furnace.Behind the wheel of such a car I would be a man would cease to feel
1Andrey1111111
th are all different. normal machine. when a new car take . generally better nowhere flattery until the time comes . and when the time comes for the owner . also no need to change anything . and watch strap on hladno every 40 thousand no cracks and sound and neh flattery there. friend Cherie 105 thousand rode on the factory belt and the roller . and when you put videos anal. they had immediately collapsed. grit luchsheb not changed. But if hand-picked and bent the valve. duck need not otchaivatsya, naprej the balls to do kapitalku. I have a machine ran 45 thousand to change anything not Sobieraj . changed only the Stoics and all. the machine is no different from any Toyota and matsuricon .and shout don't sit in the sit. our easier.
150 thousand change Interval timing on opalewski xer engines following the instructions I changed the belt Yes ideally, but the roller is worn out .so following your method and looked no crack, that means everything is OK continue to drive further long-proedesh.
"the machine is no different from any Toyota and minoriko" this is my friend, you speak the truth and blatantly lie)
th are all different. normal machine. when a new car take . generally better nowhere flattery until the time comes . and when the time comes for the owner . also no need to change anything . and watch strap on hladno every 40 thousand no cracks and sound and neh flattery there. friend Cherie 105 thousand rode on the factory belt and the roller . and when you put videos anal. they had immediately collapsed. grit luchsheb not changed. But if hand-picked and bent the valve. duck need not otchaivatsya, naprej the balls to do kapitalku. I have a machine ran 45 thousand to change anything not Sobieraj . changed only the Stoics and all. the machine is no different from any Toyota and matsuricon .and shout don't sit in the sit. our easier.
6yp
as China may not be the original?))) there should be all original))) or Chinese so severe that from Chinese parts make it even more Chinese?))))
www.relines.ru/catalog/great-wall-hover/ also figeyu
6yp
as China may not be the original?))) there should be all original))) or Chinese so severe that from Chinese parts make it even more Chinese?))))
The Chinese seem to remember more severe Chelyabinsk them.)))
Often the original is not much more expensive than analog on the same Germans ))
well not very often
Well it is clear, then any claims in China, the Germans and the Japanese are also a bunch of neoriginalen
As said, the owner of the car, he takes parts in the same store and they offer both original and not original. He decided to save)))
as China may not be the original?))) there should be all original))) or Chinese so severe that from Chinese parts make it even more Chinese?))))
Any machine needs affection, lubrication and cleanliness! The cherry is not even a bad car for the price, vortex will be worse. And to ditch the counterfeit parts can be anything up to a simple bike!
First going to buy a Chinese car, and then the nameplate is removed, so that the people were not shamed.
Sergey524
I also know some French and Korean motor. Doesn't it conveniently.
But for example, in the most non-specialized services of the means for fixing no. And starts a farm.
And a bunch of guineas-type Fiats and Alphas where the fixing required a lot of special tools-that is true where the shafts are fixed, and somewhere in the gear, there is and the Germans... He is not a mechanic, but I know about this mutoten know since worked with machine tools working in office.dealer...
For this engine you need two devices sks-garage.ru/instrument-...emont-dvigateley/JTC-4038
I also know some French and Korean motor. Doesn't it conveniently.
But for example, in the most non-specialized services of the means for fixing no. And starts a farm.
Sergey524
Well, first there is no camshaft splines and gears spin freely and no marks to install the timing belt. To set need to remove the valve cover and stomatite special plate of the camshaft.
Let's just say - the system is not for Russia.
Second, the b & b crankshaft aluminum and in addition is a continuation of the block which is attached to the pallet. Very inconvenient and expensive construction.
And lastly all the bolts with a large thread pitch, which is unacceptable in the car. They quickly break.
Key marks, I can a lot of engines to give an example where this is not, and the fact that the block is aluminum, so it is also in many engines
Without dowels nice, but not for most of our masters. There all the pulleys and caps marker issecheny.)))
Metric thread, but a step like normal bolts that sofas are twisted.
No dowels, so it is possible to accurately set the pulleys. And the people making perverted pulleys with an adjustment ;), or as the old Toyotas two holes beneath the key — that when you break one not to change the item. Tighten you still need the manual.
B & b crankshaft is the fashion for greater rigidity should provide longer service life. However, there is always the question — what is time?
Coarse thread — they inch use?
Well, first there is no camshaft splines and gears spin freely and no marks to install the timing belt. To set need to remove the valve cover and stomatite special plate of the camshaft.
Let's just say - the system is not for Russia.
Second, the b & b crankshaft aluminum and in addition is a continuation of the block which is attached to the pallet. Very inconvenient and expensive construction.
And lastly all the bolts with a large thread pitch, which is unacceptable in the car. They quickly break.
Sorry that got...but you can tell!)))I have a jap 2002 mileage 265000 thousand I'm not that oil nepodoba.under the hood of every 2nedeli look.for the sake of decency!..I understand many fear the years...I have a head daughter bought a diesel.the beam was bent!now it will be changed under warranty a week said!well, is this normal?not only that, new.Yes, and wait!I would have noviterbel.
Yes this motor has long established itself gemorno...for vortex Tingo has started to put upgraded
Spy and tags for shkoloty, wait almost all motors without spies and labels. Bed knee aluminum for greater rigidity of the block, this is more plus, on account of the thread is also not clear to the Americans on a inch thread and that's not who does not suffer )))
Well, first there is no camshaft splines and gears spin freely and no marks to install the timing belt. To set need to remove the valve cover and stomatite special plate of the camshaft.
Let's just say - the system is not for Russia.
Second, the b & b crankshaft aluminum and in addition is a continuation of the block which is attached to the pallet. Very inconvenient and expensive construction.
And lastly all the bolts with a large thread pitch, which is unacceptable in the car. They quickly break.
We can this motor supposedly have sang yenga, the platform of the Mercedes from which he refused because of defects large, etc.)
oooREMIooo
The oil I had time to change)) that would soot this was not. The neighbor-greedy rare in the course)))
and there are people who come and say, "I had in the cabin was noisy, it is probably in the engine a little low on oil? Yes? and that's the last time 4 years ago I was I just go a little"...
Karl... 4 years years ago, Carl...))
today is uncle to us such came)
There is such a thing. But in addition there valve was bent and punched to produce and release, apparently through the guides in the oil fall. And there figs knows. Maybe not change in time.
The oil I had time to change)) that would soot this was not. The neighbor-greedy rare in the course)))
The owner turned out took on a CHINESE car CHINESE AFTERMARKET ROLLER timing!m just Under the table :):):):)
why these machines at all to buy?! they're either not friends with the head whether sellers know hypnosis
K-a-l-in-a
How put timing marks if not?
There system is the following:
1) remove the cover cylinder head
2) the piston are placed in a line side screw special bolt locking the whole system.
3) Next is inserted the strap into the slot at the ends of the camshafts and bolted to the cylinder head
4) loosened both pulley
5) changing the timing belt, tightened tensioner pulley
6) tighten the pulleys
Thus, the timing mechanism will always be configured correctly and the label will not escape accidentally when replacing the timing belt.
serg-wolf
the meaning) it is Necessary to dance from TDC pots and camshafts
and yet there is not TDC of the piston like in the middle should stand)
well, Yes, of course it is possible, but problematic. Because there is not just as it appears, the valves open/close slightly before the piston reaches TDC/BDC, and it is necessary to catch...
The original head is almost the main beach, it is almost impossible to buy a real quality original, same shit from the basement for sale.
Even the official n**Orgy put shit fake. Once almost came to timing because of them, I wait with the replacement of another thousand or two km.
Yes, not the original full on CHERY! — and not rare — you ride in Charice, take the original consumables or other checked — timing pulley with Ford set — everything is OK))) although native strap passed 70000 and still would go, the video has been replaced though so a hedgehog it is still not claim it, the pump did not even think to change until replacement, also Ford took lies, engines avstraliyskie are a pretty good economical and frisky, I have 1.5 107 horsepower with a mixed consumption of 8 liters, the engine crank will not regret good oil and in time to change everything !
2 years working with Cheri including tiga, with original factory rollers and the belts are all fine, another thing is parts "Chinese" leftists, they do not go all
a joke about the fact that in China all the original already stuffed mouth.
3 years ago changed timing belt at Tigo
there's a movie contagion started to fall apart after 3 revolutions of the crankshaft
and parts was the original Chinese
piston are placed edge to edge, through the spark plug hole with the help of electrodes on the camshafts at the rear of the slot is offset relative to the center of the camshaft, the larger "half" down
the rollers and belt need to use only the original "cherry" all because the aftermarket rollers are the cheapest bearings and tensioner pulley pulls the belt, relative to the native fold in two, because of this, and is falling apart, big load
and relatively good engines
people every day scratching away at the Chinese
History with Chery ended in failure.
14 valves in the trash. Broke 2 rails, pulled thread along with caps were poslali she camshafts. On the camshaft broke off pieces of metal.
TIN!
and if you shoot a torpedo, then under it you will see the electrical wires marked VW, he saw...
And he wanted to go to the store and say let me Kitaiskoi machine original movie, but not CHUM ?
laughter laughter, and the Chinese come parts original and not original with the same numbers :)
Did Tiggo with the same engine, too, seeks, when run in 80тык it the second time broke the original timing belt and bent half the valves, which custom continued for a few days, there was a decent set of stocks, I do not remember now
Kitaysy took the trouble to mill the pistons. So make yourself. For sample, take the piston of the same ACTECO only 1.8, make marks and Fraser make potae under the valve. AND NEVER ALREADY...
And dviglo 2.0 ACTECO apsolyutno normal spoil it Chinese belts and rollers, take a firm rollers and belts, make freiraume pistons and in flight.
Now, many motors are made. The same Reno and Fort, also require locking the crankshaft and camshafts.
In principle, convenient.
This motor know by heart.The biggest problem is timing.Only factory installed belt and rollers go 65000.Put then original or not original is impossible.I picked up the belt and rollers from other cars, quietly okazyvayut 40 thousand.Setting the timing is done using devices that lock the camshafts and the knee.Method hold, pull, so it will come down leading to expensive repair of the engine through low mileage.When you install the pan you need to carefully check the rubber ring.Improper installation will not be enough oil pressure and the motor starts knocking after a time with light pressure is not lit.In short the motor is problematic and short-lived.
I agree about the fixing shaft, very comfortable.But this motor supply system oil and all that it involves, it is hemorrhoids.About timing if not podbrady counterparts, it is better not to change at all)))))
I had a situation... .go ask the spare parts Department spare parts China ...me a question you China or the original I'm saying you yourself can hear your question...well, I neighing took what you needed and left...so here...
I have a nephew conductive and have not odjezdu week embarked on kapitalku. Just died a roller and bent valve