The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 (T21)
Hello.
Recently Eugene (aka KEV-583) with the help of Andrew (aka fmaster16) told us about a possible leak of antifreeze (here and here).
I also decided to check out this tee from itself, because also observed a slight decrease in antifreeze. But my search of this tee nor to no avail — no from me. And here's why...
Here is a photo of Eugene on which I have highlighted in this tee and another node is a radiator for cooling oil of automatic transmission, which is connected to the upper radiator hose engine coolant through the tee. Given that my car is at the mechanics I've got no radiator oil cooling automatic transmission and, accordingly, no tee.
Photo of Eugene (KEV-583) with a dedicated tee and radiator oil cooling automatic transmission
Next, lay out my photos under bonnet made from the same angle.
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Accordingly, this tee is available only on Chery Tiggo 5 with a CVT.
fox6
So I wrote about it
Found Your message with T281VR, nothing today with the phone squirm :), okay maybe useful to someone...
fmaster16
Well, Yes . on the mechanics of the tee NO .
But in mechanics, In the same area, There is a pipe that connects to the engine . I have this pipe tech . while under warranty have not changed the clamp . The place is not Very convenient for replacement .
Leak can be anywhere
Well, Yes . on the mechanics of the tee NO .
But in mechanics, In the same area, There is a pipe that connects to the engine . I have this pipe tech . while under warranty have not changed the clamp . The place is not Very convenient for replacement .
I was kidding.)) The joke appeared because a car without automatic transmission this tee no. And so, I on the contrary, for the transmission, much higher comfort, and is reliable enough unit.
short circuit
the device, called the "radiator automatic transmission", is actually a heat exchanger "ATF antifreeze", he takes off heat from ATPA in the antifreeze of the cooling system.
and oil in automatic transmission only pours Range Rover.
well, I'm not saying that the error is critical. So, said. It just so happened historically that the "radiator" we call that blown air, and "heat exchanger" — a node that transmits heat from one Gigi to another
on my Taurus were combined radiator "automatic transmission+engine" inside the radiator the engine was installed a heat exchanger that dumped heat into the antifreeze.
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In principle, the essence is distorted not much. Under the radiator is traditionally understood to be the same heat exchanger, but "ATF-air", and it is simply a different kind of environment — antifreeze.
the device, called the "radiator automatic transmission", is actually a heat exchanger "ATF antifreeze", he takes off heat from ATPA in the antifreeze of the cooling system.
the oil radiator is from a ZIL-130 taxis:
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box that links automatic transmission.com — make a deep Blowjob as efficiency, and for the price :=)
there is a factory heat exchangers I put such except the radiator can be zakljuciti with Gazelle.or such akpp.com.ua/zaptchasti-ak...0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B
vladimir1969vv
In order for these tees not runny, it is necessary to reduce the pressure in the cooling system, just remove the gasket from the surge tank. Sooner do it the better. After this was done 10 000 km dashed --- result DRY. And heat exchangers installed additional clamps without removing the factory, all dried up and no snot and no editilla
Do not say crap. The symptoms are not needed to remove, and the disease to be treated. To put a normal metal tee, pipes fasten with clamps at 15P apiece and all. Tees in bulk in the PELVIS boutiques. No problem.
So you don't laugh, the boiling point of ethylene glycol look, and not to be funny... Under the pressure of 1.5 bar (21 psi) water boils only regular — 110°C
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The holidays are over... kind of Portfolio put together?
YuNew
it seems like the coolant boiling temperature (at atmospheric pressure!) degree 107-109 should be according to GOST...
so something like that...
Don't be ridiculous. It is under pressure so the boiling point.
I'm not arguing with You, just pointed out the fact that antifreeze without pressure, in principle, don't boil... And at the expense of to go with virtually no cover... yeah right — this shit I do not propose to deal with... well in a pinch to lower pressure cap (the other cap)
I'm on their extensive practice faced with the fact that the temperature of the wall of the sleeve is locally higher than the coolant temperature in General.
for this reason, if you look in the cooling jacket, the cylinder wall all the oblique curve and referring to reef some.
the effect of the "buzz" of heating element in the kettle ...
so when the pressure goes on no this effect.
on the engine there is no opportunity to test it in practice, but I have very extensive experience with electric boiler ...
approximately at the pressure of 0.8 and higher sound podlipny lost ... and at constant pressure of 1.5 kg and above — there is no limescale on the heating elements.
well, it's a digression. need to understand and analyze.
this conversation is from the category of "I shut off the ABS because the ABS machine bad brakes".
I hold the opinion that modern machine squeezed all you can ... all of the mechanisms ... and Nehru to climb, especially on such occasions as above.
but to impose an opinion do not want)))
AlekseyPolarBear
I'm sorry, but that kind of nonsense? you know what the cooling system pressure? maybe in order to increase the boiling point?
know what local overheating? what is the formation of gas bubbles from micro pacciani on the walls of the casings?
it's like not to hurt the kidneys, drink painkillers and the problem will be solved.
ride with the cooling system without pressure = have a problem with Chu in the future.
people suffer to get the pressure ...
it seems like the coolant boiling temperature (at atmospheric pressure!) degree 107-109 should be according to GOST...
so something like that...
vladimir1969vv
FOR audi80 WENT without a valve in the lid of the expander, thus exploited 12 years, the engine has 890 000 km without engine repair, sold in good condition (from personal experience, BABY)
More than 100 thousand no valve in the lid of the drive and all is well.)))
AlekseyPolarBear
in older machines, temperature was lower.
in modern machines is that the working fluid temperature is in the range of 102-107 degrees.
not everywhere, but remove the gasket in the radiator cap that radically change modes of operation of the cooling system — is not correct.
before the car was doing with other stocks for strength, and to another life.
now this modification may result in occurrence of rings, and a talk on the topic "Oh Oh Oh I didn't do anything and all broken".
leaking antifreeze, you need to remove the cause, and not to remove the antifreeze (pressure) from the system.
Yes, just boiling is summer and all. Once you overheat the engine, the Head will lead.
in older machines, temperature was lower.
in modern machines is that the working fluid temperature is in the range of 102-107 degrees.
not everywhere, but remove the gasket in the radiator cap that radically change modes of operation of the cooling system — is not correct.
before the car was doing with other stocks for strength, and to another life.
now this modification may result in occurrence of rings, and a talk on the topic "Oh Oh Oh I didn't do anything and all broken".
leaking antifreeze, you need to remove the cause, and not to remove the antifreeze (pressure) from the system.
FOR audi80 WENT without a valve in the lid of the expander, thus exploited 12 years, the engine has 890 000 km without engine repair, sold in good condition (from personal experience, BABY)
I'm sorry, but that kind of nonsense? you know what the cooling system pressure? maybe in order to increase the boiling point?
know what local overheating? what is the formation of gas bubbles from micro pacciani on the walls of the casings?
it's like not to hurt the kidneys, drink painkillers and the problem will be solved.
ride with the cooling system without pressure = have a problem with Chu in the future.
people suffer to get the pressure ...
In order for these tees not runny, it is necessary to reduce the pressure in the cooling system, just remove the gasket from the surge tank. Sooner do it the better. After this was done 10 000 km dashed --- result DRY. And heat exchangers installed additional clamps without removing the factory, all dried up and no snot and no editilla