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The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 (T21)

Hello.
Recently Eugene (aka KEV-583) with the help of Andrew (aka fmaster16) told us about a possible leak of antifreeze (here and here).

I also decided to check out this tee from itself, because also observed a slight decrease in antifreeze. But my search of this tee nor to no avail — no from me. And here's why...
Here is a photo of Eugene on which I have highlighted in this tee and another node is a radiator for cooling oil of automatic transmission, which is connected to the upper radiator hose engine coolant through the tee. Given that my car is at the mechanics I've got no radiator oil cooling automatic transmission and, accordingly, no tee.
The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 T21Photo of Eugene (KEV-583) with a dedicated tee and radiator oil cooling automatic transmission
Next, lay out my photos under bonnet made from the same angle.
The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 T21Full size
The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 T21Full size
The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 T21Full size
The leak of antifreeze Chery Tiggo 5 T21Full size
Accordingly, this tee is available only on Chery Tiggo 5 with a CVT.

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fox6 27.07.19

Yes, all right, let people know, not everyone read my message

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DimanD36 27.07.19

fox6

So I wrote about it

Found Your message with T281VR, nothing today with the phone squirm :), okay maybe useful to someone...

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DimanD36 27.07.19

Then with me, sorry, probably missed something somewhere... :(

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fox6 27.07.19

So I wrote about it

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fox6 27.07.19

fmaster16

Well, Yes . on the mechanics of the tee NO .
But in mechanics, In the same area, There is a pipe that connects to the engine . I have this pipe tech . while under warranty have not changed the clamp . The place is not Very convenient for replacement .

Leak can be anywhere

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DimanD36 27.07.19

It is near the thermostat?

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fmaster16 27.07.19

Well, Yes . on the mechanics of the tee NO .
But in mechanics, In the same area, There is a pipe that connects to the engine . I have this pipe tech . while under warranty have not changed the clamp . The place is not Very convenient for replacement .

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mahi-191 27.07.19

I have a CVT — looked dry Assembly Dervis

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Petrovich35 27.07.19

I was kidding.)) The joke appeared because a car without automatic transmission this tee no. And so, I on the contrary, for the transmission, much higher comfort, and is reliable enough unit.

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64Dmitriy64 27.07.19

All or in particular?

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Petrovich35 27.07.19

Thanks for the info. In General, automatic transmissions are evil.))

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MrJozhik 27.07.19

short circuit

the device, called the "radiator automatic transmission", is actually a heat exchanger "ATF antifreeze", he takes off heat from ATPA in the antifreeze of the cooling system.

and oil in automatic transmission only pours Range Rover.

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short-circuit 27.07.19

well, I'm not saying that the error is critical. So, said. It just so happened historically that the "radiator" we call that blown air, and "heat exchanger" — a node that transmits heat from one Gigi to another

on my Taurus were combined radiator "automatic transmission+engine" inside the radiator the engine was installed a heat exchanger that dumped heat into the antifreeze.

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fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:472557 (here, however, the radiator from a Sierra, but it is the same)
but such fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:572833 the heat exchanger "motor oil-antifreeze", was put on police Taurus, between the block and malofilm

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Petrovich35 27.07.19

In principle, the essence is distorted not much. Under the radiator is traditionally understood to be the same heat exchanger, but "ATF-air", and it is simply a different kind of environment — antifreeze.

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short-circuit 27.07.19

the device, called the "radiator automatic transmission", is actually a heat exchanger "ATF antifreeze", he takes off heat from ATPA in the antifreeze of the cooling system.

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short-circuit 27.07.19

the oil radiator is from a ZIL-130 taxis:

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box that links automatic transmission.com — make a deep Blowjob as efficiency, and for the price :=)

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Mercaushii 27.07.19

there is a factory heat exchangers I put such except the radiator can be zakljuciti with Gazelle.or such akpp.com.ua/zaptchasti-ak...0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8B

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Storm134 27.07.19

vladimir1969vv

In order for these tees not runny, it is necessary to reduce the pressure in the cooling system, just remove the gasket from the surge tank. Sooner do it the better. After this was done 10 000 km dashed --- result DRY. And heat exchangers installed additional clamps without removing the factory, all dried up and no snot and no editilla

Do not say crap. The symptoms are not needed to remove, and the disease to be treated. To put a normal metal tee, pipes fasten with clamps at 15P apiece and all. Tees in bulk in the PELVIS boutiques. No problem.

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YuNew 27.07.19

So you don't laugh, the boiling point of ethylene glycol look, and not to be funny... Under the pressure of 1.5 bar (21 psi) water boils only regular — 110°C
PS
The holidays are over... kind of Portfolio put together?

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Storm134 27.07.19

YuNew

it seems like the coolant boiling temperature (at atmospheric pressure!) degree 107-109 should be according to GOST...
so something like that...

Don't be ridiculous. It is under pressure so the boiling point.

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YuNew 27.07.19

I'm not arguing with You, just pointed out the fact that antifreeze without pressure, in principle, don't boil... And at the expense of to go with virtually no cover... yeah right — this shit I do not propose to deal with... well in a pinch to lower pressure cap (the other cap)

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AlekseyPolarBear 27.07.19

I'm on their extensive practice faced with the fact that the temperature of the wall of the sleeve is locally higher than the coolant temperature in General.
for this reason, if you look in the cooling jacket, the cylinder wall all the oblique curve and referring to reef some.
the effect of the "buzz" of heating element in the kettle ...
so when the pressure goes on no this effect.
on the engine there is no opportunity to test it in practice, but I have very extensive experience with electric boiler ...
approximately at the pressure of 0.8 and higher sound podlipny lost ... and at constant pressure of 1.5 kg and above — there is no limescale on the heating elements.

well, it's a digression. need to understand and analyze.
this conversation is from the category of "I shut off the ABS because the ABS machine bad brakes".

I hold the opinion that modern machine squeezed all you can ... all of the mechanisms ... and Nehru to climb, especially on such occasions as above.

but to impose an opinion do not want)))

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YuNew 27.07.19

AlekseyPolarBear

I'm sorry, but that kind of nonsense? you know what the cooling system pressure? maybe in order to increase the boiling point?
know what local overheating? what is the formation of gas bubbles from micro pacciani on the walls of the casings?

it's like not to hurt the kidneys, drink painkillers and the problem will be solved.
ride with the cooling system without pressure = have a problem with Chu in the future.

people suffer to get the pressure ...

it seems like the coolant boiling temperature (at atmospheric pressure!) degree 107-109 should be according to GOST...
so something like that...

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Yjeen 27.07.19

vladimir1969vv

FOR audi80 WENT without a valve in the lid of the expander, thus exploited 12 years, the engine has 890 000 km without engine repair, sold in good condition (from personal experience, BABY)

More than 100 thousand no valve in the lid of the drive and all is well.)))

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Storm134 27.07.19

AlekseyPolarBear

in older machines, temperature was lower.
in modern machines is that the working fluid temperature is in the range of 102-107 degrees.

not everywhere, but remove the gasket in the radiator cap that radically change modes of operation of the cooling system — is not correct.
before the car was doing with other stocks for strength, and to another life.

now this modification may result in occurrence of rings, and a talk on the topic "Oh Oh Oh I didn't do anything and all broken".

leaking antifreeze, you need to remove the cause, and not to remove the antifreeze (pressure) from the system.

Yes, just boiling is summer and all. Once you overheat the engine, the Head will lead.

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vladimir1969vv 27.07.19

WHAT HOGWASH

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AlekseyPolarBear 27.07.19

in older machines, temperature was lower.
in modern machines is that the working fluid temperature is in the range of 102-107 degrees.

not everywhere, but remove the gasket in the radiator cap that radically change modes of operation of the cooling system — is not correct.
before the car was doing with other stocks for strength, and to another life.

now this modification may result in occurrence of rings, and a talk on the topic "Oh Oh Oh I didn't do anything and all broken".

leaking antifreeze, you need to remove the cause, and not to remove the antifreeze (pressure) from the system.

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vladimir1969vv 27.07.19

FOR audi80 WENT without a valve in the lid of the expander, thus exploited 12 years, the engine has 890 000 km without engine repair, sold in good condition (from personal experience, BABY)

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AlekseyPolarBear 27.07.19

I'm sorry, but that kind of nonsense? you know what the cooling system pressure? maybe in order to increase the boiling point?
know what local overheating? what is the formation of gas bubbles from micro pacciani on the walls of the casings?

it's like not to hurt the kidneys, drink painkillers and the problem will be solved.
ride with the cooling system without pressure = have a problem with Chu in the future.

people suffer to get the pressure ...

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vladimir1969vv 27.07.19

In order for these tees not runny, it is necessary to reduce the pressure in the cooling system, just remove the gasket from the surge tank. Sooner do it the better. After this was done 10 000 km dashed --- result DRY. And heat exchangers installed additional clamps without removing the factory, all dried up and no snot and no editilla

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DK-TIGGO 27.07.19

Ran, a liter of antifreeze a week... Sadness

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somebody 27.07.19

Ggggg+gggggg) Antifreeze flows simage want to) Accept) the New machine or old) Serve be kind) Antifreeze blood number 1 economy)