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Mеrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector — part 2 mechanical

Hi all!
Continue installation of electronic injection 190 merc.
Will pay small attention to the installation of pulley with 60-2 CKP sensor.
As usual, the rotor was assembled from native and crankshaft pulley part of the pulley ВАЗ2110. Turner was cut a 60-2 teeth with pulley Ваз2110 , but with the native pulley Mercedes had problems, he was not damping, just thin steel and hollow inside, so sharpening it was highly impossible. It cut through a Board 0.4 mm for the alignment of disk drive 60-2. after 4 were made inserts with thread and inserted in the pulley Mercedes from the back side and tack-welded welding. Next, bolts on 5mm disc 60-2 was bolted to the pulley Mercedes.

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalthe disk 60-2

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalthe disk 60-2
For motors 102 typically disk 60-2 is exposed so that the label in the native pulley IT was exactly in the middle between missing teeth
Something like this

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalthe disk 60-2
Collect the pulley back on the motor. Putting the motor at TDC. OIT mark is exactly at TDC needle.

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalPutting the motor at TDC
It is further observed 20 tooth before TDC. Ie counted 20 teeth from a missed counter-clockwise.
Here in this place must be the CKP sensor.
Cretan the CKP sensor always makes the place so special no drawings. Area bought at the hardware store.

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalthe CKP sensor bracket

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalThe CKP sensor bracket

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalThe CKP sensor bracket
Next, put the CKP sensor and set to a gap of 0.8 mm

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalA gap of 0.8 mm
In principle, this part all ready. Next, the Assembly of the fuel rail
Here there are no difficulties because of the rake from the factory 406 motor GAS nozzle Base.
Put the rail, fuel pressure regulator, you need to twist the opposite, to the hose of the return was down.

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalfuel rail

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalfuel rail
after Raika exhibited, one needs to be fixing, there are many options, I make two brackets like so

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalFuel rail is fixed

Mrcedes 190 motor 102 to Megasquirt -II From the carb to the injector  part 2 mechanicalFuel rail is fixed

You can bring all the fuel hoses and apply pressure to check for leaks.
The main mechanical part is in principle finished, still need to make a pipe for installation KHH and connect the throttle cable to the DMZ.
Next, connect the electrics and ECU...
Good luck to everyone... to be continued !..

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Ilay72 28.07.19

Knee may not be sensors)
I like the stands and the CKP sensor and dpll in the "timer" which hangs on the camshaft through gears.
On the accuracy of affects the tension of the timing belt and the gaps in engagement.
The right oddly enough - the scheme of "Jan" dpkv knee dprv on the assignment .

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

A native to hot what?

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Ilay72 28.07.19

Alexkolomna

Well, Yes, Yes. 20 tooth, or rather 0 to 20 low angular velocity of the marker. Ie less likely that the ECU will be wrong in the calculation.
Yes.
About January I didn't ask. There are followers of the light, there are those who are on the dark side) ( although I believe that cost and maintainability for the end customer, in this case, the January cheaper)
But I always thought that the squirt and the need for this, so as not to muddy the CKP sensor!
Took the signal from that thread of what there is: the distributor, or even a thread and that's enough!
Worked all Mitsubishi and Subaru with two teeth on the CKP sensor?!)))

Kneeling to take signal - the right thing. Synchronization will be more accurate.
If the distributor to take, or sensors on the distribution, the graph of the rpm in the log is often like a saw.
Maybe it's not critical to atomorrow, but who likes to turn 7000-8000 rpm, you will notice the difference immediately.
And so, on the civilian options that will give softness and more stable start in poor conditions

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

And what shape frame?

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Harek76 28.07.19

Unfortunately MS does not work with the native dpkv MV 102 of the motor, and take the signal from the coil is not the best option plus it will not be possible to control the ignition .

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

Well, Yes, Yes. 20 tooth, or rather 0 to 20 low angular velocity of the marker. Ie less likely that the ECU will be wrong in the calculation.
Yes.
About January I didn't ask. There are followers of the light, there are those who are on the dark side) ( although I believe that cost and maintainability for the end customer, in this case, the January cheaper)
But I always thought that the squirt and the need for this, so as not to muddy the CKP sensor!
Took the signal from that thread of what there is: the distributor, or even a thread and that's enough!
Worked all Mitsubishi and Subaru with two teeth on the CKP sensor?!)))

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Harek76 28.07.19

Alexkolomna

Hmm... 20...60-2 tooth...
Why, then, squirt?

Then what is the optimal location of the CKP sensor for the disk 60-2, and Jewish 4C of the motor, there are also recommendations and manual for different variants of discs, say for the disk 60-2 in the manual is recommended for Jewish 4C -20 tooth for 6ц — 15 tooth, plus in 102 of the motor there is very easy to attach the CKP sensor bracket

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dallaskassel 28.07.19

and, I realized. about vems did not know, was not engaged. then fix: "we need to put as spelled out in the manual" )))))

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Ilay72 28.07.19

So vimse everything works.
The start angle can be prescribed. And this condition will not be critical, 20 teeth.
You can for example not 20 and 10 teeth Btdc and angle of my lower register and everything will work and the ignition and injection phasing. Therefore I asked about this possibility on MS

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dallaskassel 28.07.19

Ilay72

Probably a question for the fact that you can put the sensor elsewhere, and then the gate to shoot the starting angle before TDC?

no, this is wrong. forget the mixing, the table of the injection phase and what for otherwise? Yes and still will not work properly. you need to put as in the manual, in the middle of the 20th tooth.

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Harek76 28.07.19

In principle it is possible, but it's more universal position CKP sensor under a ECU

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Ilay72 28.07.19

Probably a question for the fact that you can put the sensor elsewhere, and then the gate to shoot the starting angle before TDC?

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mentat-vvo 28.07.19

And that the Jan light a wedge has converged? )))

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

Hmm... 20...60-2 tooth...
Why, then, squirt?

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

Ilay72

For some reason, but was met with the aluminium, if experience shows that the steel rules is working is even better

Look at my blog .
I always made of metal do.
For 10 years, complaints have never been.
So if it is not possible to make aluminum make metal.
But of course not from a single piece of a sheet. On many machines, the CKP sensor is in a cast block.

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Harek76 28.07.19

Perhaps there is no difference in the MS when dealing with different types of brackets because the input signal from the CKP sensor can be adjusted on the MS Board itself. But I saw the options and install the CKP sensor on a metal bracket with January and also works. And of course the "right" wires from the screen not properly connected )

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Ilay72 28.07.19

For some reason, but was met with the aluminium, if experience shows that the steel rules is working is even better

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Harek76 28.07.19

Of metal, have done dozens of times, aluminium and steel, the signal is not affected, at least Megasquirt works great for any production version of the bracket

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Ilay72 28.07.19

What material is the bracket for the CKP sensor?

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Alexkolomna 28.07.19

Always thought that they are omnipotent(((

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somebody 28.07.19

the fuel pump is installed in a regular place(they all murzov is suppressed and the mechanical cover from KE)

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askar-w210 28.07.19

clear, the car was carbureted, and the fuel pump mechanical.
now the complexity of installing fuel pump.

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Harek76 28.07.19

The car was originally fuel injected

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askar-w210 28.07.19

hi, the car is carbureted or KE?
if carbureted, set the fuel pump?

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Harek76 28.07.19

Yes, it's not the first we have Mercedes, here with the first also suffer what to do )

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nick5d 28.07.19

a familiar story, yourself Jan put ) hardship)

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Harek76 28.07.19

Well, you have not where is it written that you have a v8 and what is the injection, and the topic is about 102 motor mech injection, on this it is logical to assume

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Ryhij 28.07.19

Well, January isn't working for me on the V8, and then mother brain will die?

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Harek76 28.07.19

Well in that case you can put anything that can control the ignition( even if the Jan only without injection) and wait for native Jetronic will be covered completely. Car if you do it right and once and not redone a few

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Ryhij 28.07.19

I'm sorry, but why Megasquirt. Why not use Megajolt, I mean if only the fur. the ignition change. I assume mother brain is satisfied, but the ignition with no distributor.

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BEAST-55 28.07.19

Here is my Saviour, all in pictures like Murzilka, for the money what happens? PS Offered to do a sex change operation intake over 7tys.R. it's only for work worth it?

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BEAST-55 28.07.19

And the signature!

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Martirosyan 28.07.19

E is not necessarily a CI at an earlier mercy was K-jetronic.

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RENTECH 28.07.19

I immel in mind ke

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Martirosyan 28.07.19

E — injection

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RENTECH 28.07.19

Martirosyan

The designation "E" in the account do not take, there were just 190 and 190D.
And classes went to these three models, and were introduced to the entire line in ' 93.

beat the 190E and 190D E-gasoline D - diesel

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somebody 28.07.19

We're talking about the same current in different languages)

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Martirosyan 28.07.19

The designation "E" in the account do not take, there were just 190 and 190D.
And classes went to these three models, and were introduced to the entire line in ' 93.

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somebody 28.07.19

Correctly label was 190E, W201 and the body. With 124го, 140го, 202го-came to denote the class of merc and therefore, the letter began to put in front of numbers that indicate the volume)

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Martirosyan 28.07.19

Why entom body Mercedes called 190m)))

Because up to 80, classes so designated. This is his official designation, regardless of the size of the motor.
Namely 190 it was called because it was the lowest class and earlier in the 50s was its predecessor, also 190.

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Harek76 28.07.19

Yeah )

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somebody 28.07.19

Why entom body Mercedes called 190m)))

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Pelikan10rus 28.07.19

Doom)))

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Harek76 28.07.19

Thanks, really a typo and not noticed

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Pelikan10rus 28.07.19

"SAP"...really hurts the eyes...what a disrespect, or a typo...so don't be lazy and write properly. Because diesel of that era is really good from this German company.

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antoshkaeroshka 28.07.19

We mount the fuel rail on Mars is made of two tubes welded sides to each other one through Bolt fastened to the engine the other at the end of the welded nut. Fasten two pipe-to-engine bolts to fasten Reiche two tubes with a bolt and a nut put the rail with injectors on the motor level and weld tube nuts simple and reliable I think than the plate. By the way the electronics we set was 3s .

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Harek76 28.07.19

they are not there at all when you put email. nozzle injector placed in the manifold tight

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Andrey6008 28.07.19

wells in the injector changed?

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Andrey6008 28.07.19

thank you

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spiritt69 28.07.19

and the numbers stamped marascia left by chance? my pulley already two times collapsed, I want to put bestinternet.

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somebody 28.07.19

Always liked the outlet manifold blow-by gas in the head cover Mercier) the shorter the better?)))