A step back to take a running start! 2.
Well Hello everyone who's watching my 242!
Last week pulled the motor which was almost about a year, but drove 20km from the power:) well, as the donor motor doesn't want to be friends with my 242, cranky and pushes cylinder head gaskets one after the other! I got bored and decided I kapitalku motor. The motor I have a rare (В23ЕТ) and spare parts to find difficult, but more on that later. In General, pulled the motor and disassembled it completely.
After the autopsy began to assess wear! Now, my motor was seriously battered, the development in the cylinders of a well-felt by the finger, the ear was too well-worn.
In General I began to look for parts for your в23ет, many shops called, many even of my programs didn't have a motor! I started to fall in the bittemess. NT in one store told me that it SEEMS LIKE there is piston on my motor, but the contents were not able to clarify, moreover, asked for 100% payment, but the price tag gave me the 7000r for the piston, which neizvesno with rings or not and whether him the finger! I almost dropped the phone from his hands. Sat down, lit a cigarette and fell into bittemess more, began in the mind to linger on the thought of acquiring another motor. But I really wanted to collect just your engine! And so, one day I wrote Vova volvovan and says that this man named Alexander maiez have my piston! I got in touch with Alexander, he gave me all the information on these pistons, kindly answered all my stupid questions. The pistons were just under the first repair! I flooded block and crankshaft to Turner at soundings! Turner said that the first repair works for me! My joy nebilo limit! The crankshaft generally in the tolerances, that is, the nominal size and the condition of the necks is such that repair of the crankshaft requires!
I radosny hurry to write to Alexander that the purchase will take place! I want him to Express his gratitude for the promptness! Parts left on the same day as was the payment! It was super Packed, branded boxes, each branded sticker kit: piston, rings, finger and retaining rings to the fingers! In the parcel put a flyer for a discount volvo in service of 50%, it is a pity that this offer applies only to the Moscow dealers of volvo, but still nice.
In General I am very happy that I was lucky to find pistons for your motor rare! And for that I am VERY grateful to Volodya volvovan, if not for his help in the search, I probably would have either replaced the engine or bought the pistons 2 times more expensive! So thank you Vova😊 and now ahead of the boring block and the search connecting rod and main inserts nominal size, well at least the first repair. So if someone has in store to share for a reasonable fee.
To be continued...
Gadya2
Yes, at least in ekzist drive there applicability is
23ET block not what to do with 230et has not. 23FT and it's the same 23ET-only for the American market if my memory serves me. so what about the recommended use it? different piston and rods and knee as well as the size tolerances.
MaIez
I personally do not dozakazat 1 piston to the kit after its purchase, because It was so illiquid...
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volvomaks
And maybe more! Oil is now better to ride the car will be summer only, so runs will decrease, so I think next kapitalka give my adult children😂
Then, too, the grandchildren, if the mode will not change! ))
Find new spare parts in Russia for a rare old motor for the right price? You're lucky.
Someone not particularly versed in the parts Volvo posted price in exist and other online stores, and they do not check the information.
arnaut-denis
never realized how much stood of the piston www.exist.ru/price.aspx?sr=-4&pcode=0375901 not so much the original
The original can not be bought, long ago discontinued.
On the existential of my piston was hanging over 5600р-piece, in a stall we have a volvo on the market I was offered them on a course for 7000r-piece having a cheat. And Alexander from maskva, a store employee 77volvo, sold them to me for 3700шт, and said that the existential hung these same piston just to wrap eksist!
never realized how much stood of the piston www.exist.ru/price.aspx?sr=-4&pcode=0375901 not so much the original
Gadya2
Well I'm here so
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Recess depth 1, mm2.3
The diameter of the bolt, мм24
The diameter of the cylinder, мм96.31
Length, мм80.4
The length of the bolt, мм72
Additional informationfrom the piston rings
Room продукции96 P 10
The degree of compression (compression), мм46.4
Obseves, г838
MAHLE KOLBEN 59 037 01
Piston, set add to Notepad
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VOLVO
760 sedan (704,764) sedan 940 II(944) 960 saloon (964)
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Model Modification release date Information
760 sedan (704,764) 2.3 Turbo [B 23 ET] 173 HP Diesel 1982 — 1984
760 sedan (704,764) 2.3 B 23 ET] 173 HP Diesel 1984 — 1986
760 sedan (704,764) 2.3 Turbo B 23 FT, B 230 FT, B 230 GT] 156 HP Petrol 1987 — 1990
Sedan 940 II (944) 2.3 Turbo B 230 FT] 171 HP Petrol 1995 — 1994
Sedan 960 (964) 2.3 Turbo B 230 FT] 165 HP Petrol 1990 — 1993
Well? The applicability of them just for volvo in FT and GT engines were the other pistons! And they are not on the program because I got the last set! Find a second I'll take a beer!
lucky is not the word! and on account of the sleeves, too, I think my like nothing else, but if you rascacielos in forged H-shaped connecting rods that tolkovyi the question will arise and in my case=)
You seriously podfortilo that you found them at all! Moreover, was in your 1st repair. I recently also piston for your В21А, however the 2nd repair, although I have the value at the limit. But I did not have. Moreover, the seller kindly gave them a more than attractive price. How to get parcel, too, will make a post. With the rest of the parts shouldn't be a problem. The only thing is the connecting rod bushings, where the finger is inserted. Just last 740 I them sharpened. So, perhaps this time I will do the motor in the same place.
grinding smoother than milling! Turner the job and was raised to prepare the surface for the steel cylinder head gasket.
volvomaks
it is clear that the strip with the pistons as not connected!but the motor already requested the repair, that my mind, at the mating plane of the cylinder head with the block will be sanded and installed steel strip!
most importantly, the big shells were not, and that is not something that grinding, milling, even up to millimeters sometimes does not help ...
make time for a good culling first, and then vbuhali a lot of money in repairs of old ...
maybe it will be easier new to buy ? ...
suggest going on forums where people discuss the feeding heads of this engine. a lot of interesting find.
Well, I think some sort of fantasy! Don't worry, I'm normally stretch, nothing will squeeze.
I'm not saying that it will squeeze out from behind the banners, I'm talking about what the head has not held up laying knocked out. although made by the book. from banners gasket never squeeze, if not to overheat the motor for 200градусов.
Well there is the book where the order and the tightening torque specified! And to temperament that the cylinder head gasket squeezed out the first time I hear, most of the threads broke and he squeezed the gasket!
a normal review. is a polished head and block last so the pads beats. and then, all blamed on the curve of the head or block.
well, what comment?! of course stretch, according to the manual, I in past times has handed, it's not pulling and distorting the block or cylinder head!
it is clear that the strip with the pistons as not connected!but the motor already requested the repair, that my mind, at the mating plane of the cylinder head with the block will be sanded and installed steel strip!
Quote from your text : "...naughty and pushes cylinder head gaskets one after the other! "
and you took the pistons to change, and the problem can be a very different place ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Redblock_Engine
it says that this motor forged crankshaft and pistons, my eye did not fail me) the Volvo think it can not afford to pick up the alloy for forgings with lower teplonositel, rather than all the tuners...and the gaps too... on motorcycles, surplus forging the way also has large gaps...
Because motah first heats up much faster, actually much faster in the second Mota on lack of other sounds, deafening thumping of the pistons, which tucat quieter, because less )))
I have a photo no, I don't bother ))) Are of the piston are on an old Opel with STILL sotrami formirovanie, some Alphas and pyrzycach. Really from forging to feature heavily, if you do not know where to look )))
And you can't compare modern polarity masini with Volvo thirty years ;) Modern machines is a horror starlogo engineer. And taboo thing as ONLINE now the engineers there 95% of the cars ;)
So why on motorcycles it is not knocking? And whether you photo of cast pistons, like the forging of the treatment? Forging on modern machines, not a vegetable to be found. It's not Turkey pistons of some sort))
You n sravnival motorcycles and cars. Completely different loads and modes.
You are faced with forging machines? Apparently not ;) So in the cars they knock on cold. A customers Volvo have not suffered, believe me. And about to eat oil, I'm not saying ;)
Give an example of such pistons photos... 90% of motorcycles is forging from the factory, and does not knock and is not eating oil at cold. Firm just one can afford many things, especially
Because so many take for forging conventional cast pistons ))) Stretch fur-handled )))
This is not the motor to forging to put. And not the firm. Volvo can not afford to raise the detail with a limited resource, and even that will knock the cold.
13mm that hold 300-350 forces continue their oppression and breaks. It's not much ($100 per rod more me... by the way looked then Wiseco the connecting rods on my motor, 660$ for 8 pieces out. It is necessary to look how much n will be Volvo.
Well I would not say that the stock rods are puny! I did not measure it of course, but they are 13mm at least, and maybe more, but I know for sure that the connecting rod finger in diameter on my pistons 14mm, and 13mm on FT! But in General I want to order from IPD H-shaped forged connecting rods, as rebetika, but until the budget allows! I will save, they are$ 100 thing cost!
By the way, write the Swedes, these pistons can withstand up to 600 without any problems. Sorry stock rods deshevye(( and that would be all the mega budget strong motor... For sebestoimosti even JZ would rest :)
ZakaT1984
Quality. Even lifters make extremely precise. Of course you can run and China with the logo.
Ie makes Glyco bearings do not exactly ? :)
for when all properly reliable car, I don't know! for it can be a bit to pay once!
Well, I had in mind))) was 850 with the 5-Gorshkov)) where the first cylinder rod broke off ((( so for the kit at the price of 20000 out)))
contain not at all expensive! expensive to repair the motor=) all other consumables like fret!
you would understand something as.
Logan collected in vathouse in Togliatti. collects one and the same office, all on the same plants from tehzhe material. where in Logan would be more as if both cars doing WHA?
a conversation for the fact that if there is no money for a new Ino the new car will be less brain to do. think in the square
AndryhaCh
think less crap to break and no repair.
If VAZ is less broken and less hemorrhoids with it, then our planet is flat and square:)
All modern cars in 10 years will be handed over as scrap, it is a fact.
A lot of people do not service their machines, no matter WHA or a foreign car.
know and AVTOVAZ, parts are too expensive)))))I then looked at the seat belts for 5 pieces 1 piece, I provigil.especially the new one.so the cost of spare parts our brands any more as prior.the only difference is that set and scored.but at AVTOVAZ, I would be ruined.and now to the word why to roll the car?the problem is huzaifah.people who buy reliable foreign cars stupid they are not properly served IMHO why?she's reliable think the oil is not changed for 5 years.or the brakes were not engaged.if you compare the stupid new (old car) and the new basin?it is easy to talk about certain things without knowing the fact.view will survive the grant or what have you after 20 years?I think in 10-15 years her place would be scrap.and now about the comfort.stupid to even compare not schem.because even in the new field I have the feeling that he was in the waste compartment.everything looks so cheap.and Yes in every AVTOVAZ is heated, electonical, abs, and the level of security?I think not
AlexeyKov
Read WHAT and why was my car, and then tell me that what to eat.
www.drive2.ru/l/8236900/
why buy spare parts from domestic cars to inomarka?
consider then whether you have the money to inomarka if even for parts there is no money?
it turns out that the senile old satnavs.
Proof please, where I, quote, "I am proud of you that you have a reliable auto vase.
this is not just wrote." Especially about "repeatedly".
Especially when you consider that my use was in a different time, VAZ, Moskvich, Renault, Citroen, Hyundai, Mercedes, Ford, Toyota, Honda, Opel.
I'm not proud I stupidly go. proud of you that you have a reliable auto vase.
this is not just wrote.
shit why. the main thing that it has collapsed already.
pesto even burn you bought it anyway, it rotted and collapsed.
AlexeyKov
Really? Or maybe just the fact that VAZ know in any gateway, but try yeah figure it out in dvuhterabaytny system Alfaromeo, adjust the carb on the turbo Renault 18, eliminate the problem with Motronic 1.5 or figure it out in a vacuum system Ford. And with such parts www.drive2.ru/l/4094459/ somehow hard to believe in the trouble-free Vase.
www.drive2.ru/r/opel/1374246/
read your BU, deer, . and then compare with the BJ any grantovogo. then say that you have a reliable car.
then compare the configuration after the comparison, talk about comfort.
here the dialogue came from the side of faith.
I do not care in every alley or not, but I had a Japanese woman from Japan, 2000. BU I never buy.
parts it has ceased to produce, BU no, and are under 100 for new CV joints fucking existential.
if you are comfort climbing avtomoika choose BU spare parts, CL wages to pay for new parts, then I'm sorry, you're insane.
www.drive2.ru/l/4094459/ if you buy parts Cresnet of the production, it does NOT mean that :
1 made them WHA
2 VAZ they break.
it only means that once again you bought Granato which also does you no good.
Really? Or maybe just the fact that VAZ know in any gateway, but try yeah figure it out in dvuhterabaytny system Alfaromeo, adjust the carb on the turbo Renault 18, eliminate the problem with Motronic 1.5 or figure it out in a vacuum system Ford. And with such parts www.drive2.ru/l/4094459/ somehow hard to believe in the trouble-free Vase.
Hi. Here's a link to the liners.
old.motorzona.ru/shop/mod...cd-engn=B23ET&old-engn=-1
LenivijKot
stood — written together
:) I love Volvo
the bittemess, piston motor )))) neizvesno, fiction, radosny, member, someone, etc...
comrades, use the Yandex browser, or at least a ward.
The piston diameter 96.25? Horseradish se almost Silovsky piston (100), MOSCHA for cars!
it's a shame when later it turns out that what some pistons from classic fit...
it happens...
Sometimes none at this diameter pistons!
Afanasii1
not too shabby in diameter and look like as in my augustinski, my 82 just simply!
Manufacturer of cool — original mahl!
It's "male"
this is how many a fool, because a 2.3 not a comic volume. I'm on my 1.8 is on 3 Tey turn, and your campaign 4 the idle will not)) Let's pack will ride polyube is very original and not like at all — round Korean bullshit)))
not too shabby in diameter and look like as in my augustinski, my 82 just simply!
Manufacturer of cool — original mahl!
В23ЕТ also forging only, these motors were set at 760 Volvo 82 to 84, 240 in his fiction, but В21ЕТ compromised, even in my 242 ready for group A.
Congratulations! Cool motor for a cool 242)
The only thing interesting in Stoke stood forged? And these castings?
Foreign resources read what's on the B21ET forging stood in the early 80s on the 2xx Volvos. For B23ET very interesting)
Well it's definitely not my option! This machine with me forever! It has become more to me than a car!
as said, I knew the truck driver if the car begins to extort money or hard to find parts, it is best to sell the car
well, then it would also have had to sort out, to make sure that everything is perfect.
The fellow that gave up and began to look for, and some just take the motors, but was not interested)
+100500 likes, I'm for capital and not for the replacement of the so-called 10-20 year contract the motor. Recently changed the engine on Toyota estima us the owner of the car contract brought the motor and there are temperature sensors presented at fumante where have you seen that in Japan the sensors on fumento put.