Test the defroster on the glass freezing.
Hello everybody. My previous record As our brother make a fool of marketers generated a response from gribovskii the public, many people wondered whether a test of these de-icing fluids. Feeling responsible for brewed porridge, the test I conducted, post the results.
On the way back my trip, I went to the same Auchan Yaroslavl and found on the shelf of another "twin" that last time or not, or I did not notice. Meet the defroster "AutoExpress", which flows 0.5 litre blue Aryan blood, produced as our other subjects, the firm ZAO "Prombaza" from the glorious city of Aleksin of Tula region was Worth this miracle chemical thought only 87 rubles, i.e. slightly more expensive than the cheapest asinovskogo of the freezer Every day for 69 rubles, I bought it for experiments:
Also, for comparison with the defroster for was 255 RUB. were bought a 4-liter canister with fluids, windshield washing liquid under the same brand "AutoExpress", the same pale blue color and with the same sharp nasty smell. Naturally, made there, in Aleksin:))
Oh, to walk so to walk! Just for test I bought and defroster Sapphire, which also wrote last time. In fairness I must say that the last time I was a bit mistaken, the shape of the bottle "Sapphire" is slightly different from the other three bottles, but still at the base of the embossed inscription "Sapfire". But this fact does not change within the same product, ZAO "Prombaza":
So, for me the test was purchased:
— Defroster Liqui Moly, 150 RUB. for 0,5 l.
— Defroster Sapphire and 129 rubles. per 0.5 liter.
— Freezer "AutoExpress", 87 RUB. for 0,5 l.
— Freezer "Every day," 69 RUB. for 0,5 l.
— Antifreeze for washer "AutoExpress", 255 RUB. for 4 l (32 rubles for 0.5 l).
For the experience of taking an ordinary household refrigerator "Atlant" with the function superzamorozki for cooling up to -40 degrees, and a thermometer with a remote radio sensor:
Put the sensor in the freezer and we load up our blue company:
The first part of the test took place in a standard mode of the freezer, with cooling not below -20-22 degrees. In the evening I downloaded a purchased bottle in the freezer and went to bed. Sleep, of course, restless, I had a dream about a big barrel of liquid CJSC "Prombaza", dreamed asanovski products, so often woke up, cried in her sleep and tossing and turning.))
Finally, one cloudy morning in November, and I immediately darted to the cherished refrigerator. Thermometer display was showing -21 degrees:
All of our bottles at this temperature was fine and happily splashed around, including a canister of antifreeze. Even the deshmansky Every day was cheerful and happy. I.e. up to -20 they are all quite efficient, and money for the most expensive Liqui Moly and close to it Sapfire was thrown to the wind:
Well, we don't spend, just try our superzamorozki mode (Super Freeze)!:
Having done this dirty deed, I happy went to work. Returned home after ten hours, ie, our patients had a chance of being:
Retrieved from the freezer, the poor guy not survived the torture of a 40-degree frost. Survived Liqui Moly, "Sapphire" and freezer "AutoExpress". But the freezer Every day and nezamerzayki "AutoExpress" bullying is not moved and totally froze:
And now the simple conclusions that, in General, were known in advance:
1. All the liquid is fully functional until at least -20 degrees below zero. I think that even a cheap "Every day" easily withstand -25 degrees.
2. Frost to -40 degrees withstand not only expensive, but cheap defroster. Froze only the cheapest "everyday" in 69 RUB (water in it still more), but "AutoExpress", 87 RUB was as good as Liqui Moly for 150 rubles.
3. When temperatures down to-25-30 degrees for the role of de-icer is perfect normal nezamerzayki "-30" 32 RUB per 0.5 liters. But wash this muck fill is not recommended, it stinks horribly, an infection.))
4. Even the cheapest freezer "Every day" is approximately twice as expensive nezamerzayki the same flood, no reason to buy it there, cheaper to buy 4 quarts nezamerzayki, pour in some used a spray bottle and use all winter.
Morality test results are banal to a disgrace — there is no sense to pay a high price for branded freezer, you can either buy cheap, or use antifreeze.
Thank you all. bye.
dvforlife
Maybe. I read both posts with great pleasure.
Can see my similar test, only about engine oil www.drive2.ru/b/1685762/
dvforlife
Read on pikabu. Informative. Plus
Across a network from a drive taken away, the pirates.))
Paradox-M
Alcohols are different, cheap-methanol, that of those funds-isopropyl.and gas stations including.smells is 4 times more expensive. Can read more at my blog to read the topic.
I said that there is no smell at all, if you are willing to pay for the "brand spirit" 320R for 5 years — please.
9RIK63
To be honest, your topic is frankly nonsense is written, particularly about the fact that the 5g inside, about pairs too nonsense, no one has yet died from the fumes, which fall in the heating compartment, I have not seen this or heard
Oh and also — we are talking about 5-10 grams of pure alcohol, if you read carefully, like the question would you have not had an...
9RIK63
To be honest, your topic is frankly nonsense is written, particularly about the fact that the 5g inside, about pairs too nonsense, no one has yet died from the fumes, which fall in the heating compartment, I have not seen this or heard
And I think I have not written anywhere that someone died? or have you found? gifted Troll...
Duck why write it here? On this and wrote that it was nonsense, my meaning was in this
nedodelannye something you have. show me where I said otherwise? show me where I wrote that it drink?
or you again dear misunderstood? this is of the ban — drink it, not my position...nerd...
Listen, you egghead unfinished, I speech, and mind, what kind of idiot would drink antifreeze?! You're talking nonsense dear, if you had such friends who put this experiment, I'm very sorry that you have a circle of friends:)
nonsense in your head. If you dear something not seen or not heard it does not mean that it is not.
I try to start to read. well, if so smart is that you nespor a receipt of your that I give you 10,000 rubles for a shot of nezamerzayki that for 100 rubles you drink it?
Paradox-M
Alcohols are different, cheap-methanol, that of those funds-isopropyl.and gas stations including.smells is 4 times more expensive. Can read more at my blog to read the topic.
To be honest, your topic is frankly nonsense is written, particularly about the fact that the 5g inside, about pairs too nonsense, no one has yet died from the fumes, which fall in the heating compartment, I have not seen this or heard
I agree, but there was 4 small bottles.)) Last year oil was tested, I had the same jars to take www.drive2.ru/b/1685762/
Petrovich35
My test showed that the -20 even the cheapest stick, not freeze.
test nezamerzayki a little wrong.I had to pour into a small container and freeze.try freezing a Bank.freezing usually in the nozzles, and reservoir are still alive.and generally well done.gladly honored.
Yes, alcohol should be a lot. And cast in a separate bottle so not to bother with the wipers lifting (especially because not all machines possible, there is a risk of damaging the edge of the hood, I sprinkled it on and wait. But we need to take "vigorous" antifreeze, "-30" or less.
It is not logical, so it is better to use for defrosting side Windows.
Many machines are now atomizers and in the flow nezamerzayki covers the glass completely. But there is a caveat — when applying nezamerzayki immediately turn on the wipers.
Easier to start the car, lift the wipers in a vertical position, to squirt antifreeze on the windshield, it completely flooded. Wait a few minutes, then lower the wipers and then turn them work. What is the point then to leak antifreeze in a separate bottle?
In any case, the alcohol content of the defroster should be more than normal antifreeze. From this she dissolves the frost better and the price is per 0.5 liter high.
With conventional antifreeze glass for 2-3 minutes to thaw, many have probably noticed.
After his post has learned that many do. It should also be a bottle to start.))
long ago in a used bottle pour the usual antifreeze, also the price is much cheaper))))
Not me, but the pirates, drive back dragged. I post only here, and then without my demand assigned to the network.))
The noble pirates, link left. But not all have done so, some for their issue.))
Petrovich35
No, I drive enough.)) Someone I stole.))
I looked, and it indicates you the author))
so spektrol for example contains alcohol, right here is the price for 5 litres 200+ rubles!
Sergey58ru
and by the way I did this winter, bought antifreeze -30 and poured it into the atomizer, price or questions 99 rubles per 5 liters!
Do not ride in severe frosts. The meaning of defroster in alcohol, which is not in the antifreeze. Ice dissolves in alcohol. So that the effectiveness of nezamerzayki only at a higher temperature if you brought it from home. But if pulled from the trunk — all makes no sense.
and by the way I did this winter, bought antifreeze -30 and poured it into the atomizer, price or questions 99 rubles per 5 liters!
Sleep, of course, restless, I had a dream about a big barrel of liquid CJSC "Prombaza", dreamed asanovski products, so often woke up, cried in her sleep and tossing and turning.)) — hahaha! ))
We Sapphire always at a reasonable price! Liquimoly not seen more than once! :|
+ the water is always 60 to 40 make! 60% water, 40% of this nezamerzayki and for long enough! ))
alles10mk
Use alcohol, ethanol 96%. Canister 10l = 1000. Dilute 1:4 the output of the antifreeze ~ to -20. The price of a liter 20R)
Master's approach!))
Use alcohol, ethanol 96%. Canister 10l = 1000. Dilute 1:4 the output of the antifreeze ~ to -20. The price of a liter 20R)
My grandmother asked — " Bah, I used moonshine liters 8-10, OK grandson ))) and the issue resolved
Test good! But as practice showed another 5-8 years ago better brew nothing, and there is no need for a crappy незамерзайке650 moonshine 40 water and glass clean. Antiled and precau dregs is for fools, my opinion, better than basking in the forehead or Basta or AutoPlay
romario-2
ADVERTISING FRIDGE))and so it was interesting
Despite the fact that work in the industry, after the test of motor oils in I then exposed the agent of LUKOIL.)) Now in the Belarusian refrigerators slept!))
Leave if fake and/or pressure are weak. To increase the specific pressure, I put the driver's side shortened. 22" (550mm) for more than a year rowing normal)))
valestar
BOSCH-Ki frameless rule! Hybrid and frame R burner!)))
And they don't leave gaps in the middle. And then I have frameless and in the middle of a very bad brush.
When the car slept in the Parking lot, it is always covered with the usual cloth and clamped doors. The effect of 100%! ))
indigo flow
I summer my glass of antifreeze. Pour it in the sprayer and all.
Why, she's smelly?!
dvforlife
Read on pikabu. Informative. Plus
and I think where have I seen this before))
hacq
And I increasingly see vodka under the hood of the mustachioed uncles. Was thinking about the risk...
Vodka in Belarus is now worth 2 times more expensive than conventional omyvayki. But I liked vodka.
And I increasingly see vodka under the hood of the mustachioed uncles. Was thinking about the risk...
And we have the opposite, the mists in the morning and the machine directly from the ice crust!
Good luck!
MihailoSuslov
Today tests Asanovski product, zero sense, but the stench is terrible, waited 5 minutes, and still had a scraper to dig with all his might, unfortunately, a waste of money.
Looking forward to your verdict on the remaining positions.
Good luck!
Thanks for the info, will definitely unsubscribe. We have, unfortunately, yet the glass is not frosted over, at least water them down.)))
FSTR
I use LIQUI MOLY 00700 — ordered avtodok for 134р. Fine glass leaves for 2-3 minutes, then wipe with a cloth and you can go ))
Thank you for the ticket (00700 LIQUI MOLY). The author is an asshole.
FSTR
I use LIQUI MOLY 00700 — ordered avtodok for 134р. Fine glass leaves for 2-3 minutes, then wipe with a cloth and you can go ))
Also Lui acquired while try failed)
I use LIQUI MOLY 00700 — ordered avtodok for 134р. Fine glass leaves for 2-3 minutes, then wipe with a cloth and you can go ))
Today tests Asanovski product, zero sense, but the stench is terrible, waited 5 minutes, and still had a scraper to dig with all his might, unfortunately, a waste of money.
Looking forward to your verdict on the remaining positions.
Good luck!
Petrovich35
As Your feedback? Copes with the task?
Well, the speed is not fantastic. as says the seller, while smoke razmeram. I don't smoke. Abrishami, becomes a bit draining after 3 minutes, not before.
But it's better than tear rubber new brushes for 1.5 pipe. and to keep it down a little plastic glass (and then scratches on the glass)
Petrovich35
Yes, many people do so, as it turned out.
It is not logical, so it is better to use for defrosting side Windows.
The following post explained why (in the presence of fan-shaped nozzles).
Read this article. Consider this Scarecrow, to buy expensive liquids. I have a headlight washer system, primed everything and anything with the headlights not happened. They quickly begin to get cloudy from the sand on our roads.
And even less recently revealed that some nezamerzayki adversely affect the headlights are made of polycarbonate glass. (It is interesting — look on the ZR)
I'm just in the headlights gush, if dirty.
I when the cold weather buy the canister good nezamerzayki (look up), this year got Liqui Moly (402 ₽ per 4 liters).
Then the liquid is poured into a bottle sprayer. With a mild frost even diluted with water.
Some crap was written by the author. At the end someone realized as the solutions dissolve ice?
I agree that the main thing — as the ice drops, but haven't had the chance to check in because of the weather. By the way, many use the antifreeze, as follows from reviews.
All would be good, and become something useful. BUT the main purpose of the "defroster" — that the glass is thawed and it's ready to go, and that You have overlooked! Let me explain — Squirting antifreeze on the glass — something flows down, evaporates the alcohol, and the remaining... freeze on the glass!
Such findings do miss nezamerzayki in the washer should be, but it is not.
I use liqui moly is good. There are also aerosol de-icer from 3ton - best of all than use, never freezes, very economical and cheap.Suggest.
guys we have is the only portal that does what he thinks is right and not just in the auto sector. You completely read all the headings and the most important is the feedback to the articles, there's fun.
FritsBLR
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Bought in Auchan, the cheapest, the one on the right in the photo. It works like normal. But smells like cat in the corner pissed, just a gesture.
moisten a rag and rubbing, and the car must be stored in the garage, and scraper needed
Last winter used the defroster sintek for 160r., honestly - not happy. Now I bought livinallongo concentrate to -70 and poured it into the jar sintek, waiting for the cold weather. Price per liter eurolub into something about 320R.
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Never cracked though on the KIA, even with the headlight washer are. I think still more pugalki.
Also used it all, then decided to switch to "expensive" in the face of Liqui Moly. Forgot about the "Triton" as a nightmare. After Triton's even a garage for 60 squares to air the hour of need — the stench is just terrible... and the carb cleaner compared to the "Fast cleaner" from the LM — water (besides wildly smelly and nifiga not evaporating for half an hour, if not wipe).
All this is not some personal bias, but only esedina practice. In principle, if you work on the street (and only street) — for their penny Triton really adequate. But no more.
Cheap 3ton a very good chemistry. Used trifonovskiy shampoo, carnitine rubber cleaner stains. And I can say that all very worthy, but for a ridiculous price (50 — 90 rubles), so all perfect.
Because of people like you, Petrovich, I read Драйв2 :))) read It, not look at Boobs.But that's another story.Open our eyes.Good luck.
Thank you for rating. In the coming days will post the result of testing in real conditions.
Wint0reZ
Try to compare with antifreeze on ethyl. or methyl or.in short, which legally you can not buy because its some freaking inside, but it doesn't stink and well it's melting the ice
Methanol taxis, only our "broken-down" ban
Try to compare with antifreeze on ethyl. or methyl or.in short, which legally you can not buy because its some freaking inside, but it doesn't stink and well it's melting the ice
Thanks Petrovich, neighing from the heart! Such anguish suffer for the sake of the people). "Sleep, of course, restless, I had a dream about a big barrel of liquid CJSC "Prombaza", dreamed asanovski products, so often woke up, cried in her sleep and tossing and turning.))"
it is possible to nabotaget concentrate, a liter of the components is about 100-150r comes out.
actually these formulations — agressively in respect of certain types of plastic and rubber.
buy alcohol www.chipdip.ru/product/izopropanol-1000-ml/
neat -90gradusov freezes.
So Sonax makes good products. I think the control is ordered "on the side" chemistry is carried out efficiently. Sorry Artekovskaya sticker ragged, there seems to have been written the place of production.
All can be sure. The lack of an inscription "made in ..." are not happy. Well, the best that can be here to take on this topic.
Before PINGO ofigenskaya nezamerzayki was but now it nachili to do here. God knows what brand prosle this prevratilsja!
So I was told by the representative of the LiquiMoly. Germany the inscription on the bottle says about the place of registration of the company. Barcode German, but nowadays it also says little about the country of production. The only thing found on nezamerzaika Sonax "This product is manufactured using nanocomponents under control autocosmetics known German company Sonax and Packed in the canister of the original design."
I don't know how You have such confidence in it.
I have every reason to believe that this antifreeze is manufactured in Germany:
www.exist.ru/Catalog/Goods/7/339/5020128F
kav1331
Where you only find all this a Russian Chinese? Take the de-icer SONAX and do not need to test in the fridge.
In Russia, no LiquiMolly or Sonax or other brands not imported nezamerzayki and other alcohol containing liquids. All done in Russian (or bought locally and made). All because of our laws strictly regulating the turnover of alcohol-containing produktsii. Abroad easier with this, and the compositions different.
Petrovich35
It is sold in large chain stores.) If you know in advance that SONAX or something the best, then life would be just fine.)
www.exist.ru/Catalog/Good...#&&F=1_-10_263)1_16_50801)
Best defroster I don't know, and I know not so little something: I am a electrician and even more curious in the choice of products for your car. Always choose only the best. The price selected is always in the background.
SONAX products are certainly not cheap, but it definitely is worth it.
That is, LCP elastic, plastic and etc. it is possible not to worry will not hurt the defroster glass sonaks
Sonax perfect! I trust their products so that even fuel is not afraid to fill them with SONAX LEADADD. While Lew is always. And my engine for me at all Holy! I a thousand times think before to make even a minimal "innovation".
German German hatred. Not suggest, for example, to contact LM.
Good chemistry doing German and Italian TUNAP VMD:
www.drive2.ru/b/453418530281358738/
But they have the defroster to glass, it seems not.
I have German, after using for side Windows are such a fat drips from the flowing liquid will not damage paintwork and do they gum
On account of the problems with SONAX forget. They only do very high quality chemical! However, it was rumored that recently, something started to produce in Russia, but I think that even while Russian production can safely take. You are probably still does from Sonax is not used. Buy anything you want from their product and realize that it is the BEST. Their chemists are brilliant and the quality is perfect. Well, until a fake of course.
Damage paintwork and plastic 100%!
kav1331
ALL experienced from SONAX is really just ofigensky chemistry sometimes without counterparts. All of it is only MADE IN GERMANY.
Have you used defroster glass sonax 500ml it does not harm paintwork or plasmas on the car
The most unique of SONAX is a means to care for plastic interior. He wrote about it in the BZ. The really unique thing! So far so good. In addition additive in gasoline SONAX LEAD ADD use it ALWAYS.
ALL experienced from SONAX is really just ofigensky chemistry sometimes without counterparts. All of it is only MADE IN GERMANY.
It is sold in large chain stores.) If you know in advance that SONAX or something the best, then life would be just fine.)
Where you only find all this a Russian Chinese? Take the de-icer SONAX and do not need to test in the fridge.
The antifreeze concentration of the alcohol below, but otherwise Yes, the composition is the same.
I have already use antifreeze instead of all sorts of defroster glass, it's a simple marketing gimmick to sell half a liter nezamerzayki for the price of two to three liters of the same nezamerzayki only in a different bottle or cans.
Alexiur
I like that answer. Thought to write a lot of letters, but the pictures from the event always clearer.
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Pleasant viewing.
I think this ice current construction dryer to unfreeze)))))
just the name should be correct "Test of the defroster on the glass freezing in the freezer at -20".
Well, or a shorter "test of the defroster glass freezing"
I thought it was a real test on a frozen windshield...And then test the freezer of the refrigerator)
I also came to the same conclusion. This is only if you really hurry, you can slightly speed up the defrost, in other cases makes little sense in this defroster can not see.
mischief of course, do not understand, started the car 15 min job, everything passed, no problems...
I have the defroster took purely for the test, have not been used and no further use. All this pampering, they are of little avail. Here's how they work in real conditions www.drive2.ru/b/2753662/
And I'm the opposite, at the end poured them in the tank for mywiki and I won't be buying, not impressed. LM really better than the other, but still the result is so-so, see my test www.drive2.ru/b/2753662/