Legend \\u0026amp; the Legend — \\u0026quot;to Flit like a butterfly and sting like a bee\\u0026quot;
Came to mind the famous saying of Boxing legends — Muhammed alli, when ...couple of days I traveled in my Jeep!
So About right now -getting used to the comfort of a Mercedes Benz and off-rodski qualities Jeep Wrangler JK ;)
COMFORT & MANEUVERABILITY
Where thoughts?, ...without showing off — I gave this sport for over 30 years :) — I am an ardent follower of creativity of pupils of Grigory Filippovich Costanza —Outstanding coach of the Soviet Union!
For anybody not a secret who owns a legend of American auto industry — the Jeep Wrangler JK, the fact that the seats we want to be better :
Awkward bend of the seat, without lumbar and side support, will make any tormented behind the wheel, if you wanted to pass on JK -e 10-15 hours of driving :((((
In fact , JEEP — ABS.stunning car! !
BUT the seats do not meet the needs of the Jeepers —O n N O h N And H N O! :((((
After 30 hours behind the wheel, I got out of the car the letter "SIC" and the day departed. ((((
For comparison, at the time, for MB w210 320 restyling — I enjoyed driving. 2-3 thousand km WITHOUT tension and with good comfort.
Examining the issue of installation of seats etc. manufacturers(excuse my French, considered ONLY MB and BMW as the most high performance comfort)... I found out (thanks LUCKY804 was installed above the seats of the bmw 3-Ki ) — not all seats can get up in size + new more seat control is on the CAN bus that giorno in the installation and no/or little chance that all worked in normal mode (((
The choice fell on the seat W 207 MB — here, I gave all possible information assistance -SERD210T and RomanMers —big Thanks to them!
In principle, it is possible to instal in the JK and swap the seats from W 207 MB — is version max comfortable option ...BUT I chose an easier way — the seats WITHOUT paging, but with electrics and heated (THIS works for me! :) ).
I want to mention u In E L And R H y th wizard, which changed the mounting seat and left the regular plane height (4th photo ) — craftsman working 3 days at 12 hours(!) started from zero and had to invent by themselves of bonding ( with) + to invent the seat belt anchor...
Quality is the highest!(and I saw a lot of things :) )
Yes, I forgot to mention the work of an electrician:
Electrician seats were connected directly from the battery (was installed before. under the hood-in General, everything as it should be!), and the heated seats connected to the standard heated seats — heated works as it worked before :)
This is a working version! -plans the installation of the rear seats )))
PS.Looking for HIGHLY qualified obsession salons in St. PETERSBURG!( plz. who in the subject -to throw off the old !)
zzy.I can tell the seller seats
Forgot ! ))))
For myself smarter/benefiting — bought., Remembering you and your troubles -that opened the topic :)
The back is just a glove!
Height was slightly higher and, ...unusual — get used to it.
But, comfort is DEFINITELY!
Ed, I'm sorry if I offended Sanchez did not want the word!
And the seats really comfortable!
Live uvidesh himself ;)
PS. A kit from teraflex, for an up-grade — I bought, I highly recommend it !:)
A thread in the forum created for you :(((
A couple, of course! )))
Remerowski also considered -refused! -Very specific ((((
...ago -try to install from the rear W 207 (had to buy the whole interior -front+ rear)
Masters have not yet found — a couple of salons of sewing refused because of the difficulty of the execution :(
About the back can not explain. Bad seat.
I compare with the proposal remerowski...
By the way, 65-90 it's for 1 or for pair?
And that ago?
Personally, I have long thought ((((
And, decided in favor of the health of your back!
Money is nothing compared to the comfort and positive emotions from use!
We have, by the way, there are doctors are on the backs there ;) — he's more professional could unsubscribe!, ...for the Professor :)
Price seats from sellers varies from 65-90 sput. (depending on state) ((((
High price due to the fact that the seats from 207 W — 1:1 suitable to replace the regular seats on the G-class MB (they are as not comfortable as the JK-I ) and change them on the seat W 207.
NEW seats cost in the region of 3000 Euros. :(
I was surprised when at a Mature age do people grow teeth — maybe you'll be wiser?! ;)
This phenomenon is something of a landmark.
Sorry!
But don't say that the last and no more ...you have a 32-a ;)))
I generally stomps statements like, -the last Ever! :(((
Well, Yes... excuse -the highest class! ))))
It is waiting for — all gold of the world, and his teeth the climb ;)
I slept))) the wisdom teeth go, go nuts from all((( so, how come out-will definitely catch up))
And, Hurley ?!
You're on the phone don't respond, gifts, small truck, don't want to ;)
Good lumbar support-solve the problem of the waist, but lateral support is also needed!
I had the idea to sew into the seat inflatable cushion and to alter seat...
I even sat in a JK-e the St. Petersburg guy who was pulled PTS.nice salon — it increased its support in the seats (made specifically for his back)...but at the time I went to showdown and had to sit in different seats — ie it was nothing to compare!
Came to the conclusion that even the most SUPER-DUPER won't be able to make the seats, like the seats of MB and BMW ! (chose only these manufacturers)
I don't mesh, and Balon in the case set. Though had a pocket under it to alter a bit, and then in the case triarmor it is too low.
Cyril ...the best is the ENEMY of good!
These seat W MB 207-the XXI CENTURY!, compared to our regular -the Stone AGE :((((
PS.And lumbar support -mesh is cool, at the back! -Me such an Adrenaline gave to use THING!
Paging -all thing! — decided not to instal -it is difficult in execution...but possible!
Always wondered. My family is very comfortable, and after installation, lumbar support paging, so all super.
Of course! ))))
how to finish the whole project — the issue with the performers alas :(((
student-1
So, this is...I am older, a bit ;)
And, it is...I love comfort! )))
You didn't I?!
all nick is cheating )
Yeah ...at 40 I had 5 workouts a week and we ran 22 miles for the week + swam 6 km (3 miles in 45 min).
...Well, Boobs socastee was and the sky is blue ;)))
Right now all a little differently ((((
Tap the Admiral (he put a lot of things, even custom made) + K Olle + to Nicholas 71
I'm still trying to ruffle .)))
I know that can be a problem, But I really want more information. On the Drive there, people that set and then dismantled the PSC kit? Maybe someone sells a used set?
What people have been standing wheel?
I deflated 40 wheels on the rocks to turn problematic, and if blocking, it is not possible (if the jeep is without movement),
The issue with the hydraulics on the steering, he, in my understanding, it is difficult to be solved, for install PSC the whale — on the one hand a good solution, on the other hand, I know several people that after installing the PSC has removed it or had problems! Taxiing with the PSC becomes very sensitive and on the asphalt ride, say, impossible :((( (did not put — but have read/talked + researched this topic, at the time)
The compressor on the engine 3.6 put a few people (also know + right now, even one brow is set) ...but the price tag-ACHTUNG! :((((
For the money I would-I svarilsya of Hemmi -much more interesting option!
And for comfort, if you changed 50 to...it will soon come to you! :-)))))
Health should be protected + to enjoy ALL the benefits of tsivilizatsii! ))))
That's for sure.)
From the beginning I need to add hydraulics to the steering, then the compressor on the engine, then rasgado Atlas and if at that time will be able to get into your JK without a stool I'll think about compadre.))
Young people, that you have spin? .))
On my first JK I drove all across Europe to Tunisia, several times Kola day driving and I never thought the regular seat JK uncomfortable.
In other admit that all individually and depends on human growth.
A carrot to someone too sweet...until something sweet not try, right?! )))
Sell your snive take the JK-th and will be with you to live among the interests/expectations/wishlist!
read the comments and just as many become bad))) of comfort for the little people! mine is to ride a couple of three days on a gas 69 and all of your auto will be sehr gut)))and the comfort and convenient Sidhi)))))IMHO
Cost of seats varies from 60(65) — 90(100) thousand of R (depending on condition) + work on installing them in a JK.
Everyone has a choice ! )))
PS.And ...I saw all the seats on quadratec for JK — IMHO, they will not give the comfort that you expect .
to buy sports seats without trying them is like buying random shoes without knowing the size (((
Remember, a Muscovite one, from the forum, it was sold for the expensive seats new buckets purchased quadratec — they just didn't fit!
New sports seats the most expensive ones on quadratec are delivery 2 thousand dollars of the United States, comparable?
With the continuation of difficult, because not found the perpetrators, who spliced the rear seats JK-I'm with MB (((
Thanks for the shared experience. The Wrangler has everything but the seats ambush ...interested in the continuation, the second row of the unlimited)
And what is your growing weight? If not secret of course. Sometimes, too, thinking about changing seats and I want to understand what convenient.
From MB and BMW best seat IMHO for quality/flexible comfort/durability.
Right now I have are the same, but paging + heated and electric.Paging operates in a normal, automatic mode(as factory equipped) is Even better than it was ))
The installer doing the car owner a HUNDRED and sometimes my other machines does not take
and an electrician went into the beer business
Quit my heart and the fifth point is that such seats would fit in the Mitsubishi L200
Good job, found a similar ad about the sale, the campaign is also in Jeke
www.avito.ru/stavropol/za...a_mercedes_w207_857545696
Yes, actually — not for that )))
Thank God, there is nothing super complicated there !
Thanks for the idea! Yesterday I bought these really on the rag in the middle and no swap) Left to figure out how to set it up and connect.
Every car makes for themselves...but those who are at the top -other plans for us (((
Good job, Padzherik put in the driver's seat from infiniti FKH, summer went by sea, not riding, and the rest
Well, I am just quite satisfied with faux leather. I have a combo of eco-leather covers — 10 cost, so I believe that it is acceptable, and even for jeep ;-)
Perfect or almost new are 2 times more expensive
a 30-40-K or half-leather or eco-leather condition on the 4-ku
Yeah. I saw the announcements. A few were sold, no swap, damn 30!
Perfect condition :-(
Went for a week or two.
I wonder if people sell them is with raschislennyh cars? Then why the airbags intact?
Or change to paging?
These seats cost the capital in something 43-46 sput.
Exactly the same, but paging and the status of the new -75 or 80тыр. can't remember right now(in the thread some you can see them)
Expensive because such seats are put on Helice -one to one they are installing!
At Gelika too bad the regular seats ((( people change them.
And the price issue at the time of writing you can learn? Well kontaktik would be sellers. Was planning myself on the BMW 5 set, but looked at Your pictures and liked it.
Help, who knows... my back hurts from their seats Civica. The PAL MB 2010. E class... Every time I ride it — I want the seat from him... Lateral support and udobna ass is above all praise... Someone tell me — is it possible from C-kites to put Honda's or bring to mind(well, there is, to alter somehow competent)?
Automatic — no!
But handles Yes. 3 the doors are already such people go.
Space width there, butt, will need side bags to remove the seats (if we are talking about the seats from W207)prior to installing in the car.
Sori for the wrong wording of the question, ... when the backrest is folded forwards the seat the machine forward passes to release the release? (true for 3 doors)
And on the sled and the backrest is folded forward in one motion, and up/down from the drive
Despite the fact that to compare a butterfly and a wasp — no way, .unless, both fly, but in different ways ))))
And in the JK-th — in the presence of offroadster qualities, there is no availability for comfort of movement.
I tried to combine afrodesia quality JK-I and comfort from MB ))) — ie to combine in one bottle unconnected — " the butterfly and the wasp "
Okay? ;)
There are many nuances. However, it all depends on the person. If you're not sure in your tomorrow, do not sit on the couch, do something.
But as for the "confidence in the future" is definitely not about our Papua women, regardless of income, agree. :)
SiDer
And here you'll die? We are all there sooner or later will.
What about superdelegate is it?
Understanding "live" apparently are different.
You always have to think about tomorrow and not rely on chance or someone's help.
And we have to live within their means. And those who want everything at once, but if cash not features — will have to get into bondage under the name of loan/mortgage (yet the fact that the Bank will approve you!). That seems to be life goes on, but before the Bank bondage on 'TSAT years. But even this will not be a problem if you have good income and 100% confident in the future.
I see no discomfort in the construction of a country house, stretching even for a few years. Haste makes waste. Most importantly, all smart done.
"if I have a good income and 100% confident in the future."
Well, then it's not Rossi, not even in the CIS. :)
Ie, the car can be any, but if a person doesn't want to live life as a lab rat in a concrete box with an area of 16 squares on the soul — it is "show-off"...
I understand your stance?
Not necessarily, everyone decides for himself what he likes...And the ZAZ 965 is a rarity, nostalgia if you like, a hobby ...
Yes, all this show-off.and what to do in these rooms ? who dust to RUB and scrub, all of a favorite wife ?
All different. That's why I wrote "if you are 100% confident in the future". And can be built not on credit. Gradually, gradually. It's better than doing nothing at all.
Well, now I have a good income...And came down tomorrow and pay then their mansions and heat ? Here written correctly-we have to live within their means.But you need to think, because it will...will old age and sore and just a pension...
And here you'll die? We are all there sooner or later will.
What about superdelegate is it?
Understanding "live" apparently are different.
You always have to think about tomorrow and not rely on chance or someone's help.
And we have to live within their means. And those who want everything at once, but if cash not features — will have to get into bondage under the name of loan/mortgage (yet the fact that the Bank will approve you!). That seems to be life goes on, but before the Bank bondage on 'TSAT years. But even this will not be a problem if you have good income and 100% confident in the future.
I see no discomfort in the construction of a country house, stretching even for a few years. Haste makes waste. Most importantly, all smart done.
Yeah, especially when he's dead already.))) We have to live and not to superdelegate and save !
NexDBD
Yes nifiga! I when c decided (apparently out of fear) to build a house thought to erect small meters 6 5 that in the summer for a weekend with his family to live and roomier car type prado 120 leave home to ride and all I'm the luckiest man! But in the end I have now there's a building 12 to 18 without finishing, Windows and doors under a temporary roof for the attic is definitely necessary with balcony and garage, unfinished, Foundation for a bath Yes grant :) In the hell do I do a plot bought well?!
Investing in real estate is not comparable to the investments in cars. First price just will not drop.
NexDBD
Yes nifiga! I when c decided (apparently out of fear) to build a house thought to erect small meters 6 5 that in the summer for a weekend with his family to live and roomier car type prado 120 leave home to ride and all I'm the luckiest man! But in the end I have now there's a building 12 to 18 without finishing, Windows and doors under a temporary roof for the attic is definitely necessary with balcony and garage, unfinished, Foundation for a bath Yes grant :) In the hell do I do a plot bought well?!
Apparently the Moldovans were in the family.)))
Well here is clear and not reform should be carried out to raise the age, and the oligarchs and the power to dispossess, and even better on Calvary in the CD. square PereVesti with offspring and MAZERATI...And to the Treasury to return all their stolen, and authorities the minimum salary in the country (which was nazaretova the let live) and all pensioners immediately stop and still on the country's development will remain...Then reform can be done even on lowering the retirement age...
To live up to it you first need, to retirement this (((
People were dying in the 50 54гг acquaintances/friends for a couple years...not that up to 65!
Well, who does not agree with this...Yes...But still need and deserve a good pension and the minimum expenses required monthly...
"Good wife, good home — what else does a man need to age?! "
PS.To live before the retirement of this (((
student-1
To 50 done and we'll live in a big house with a beautiful wife!, ...What more from life do you want?!
And most importantly, that would have enough pension to pay for all utilities and taxes, when they finish )))) and the patience and health of himself and wife to clean all this washing, etc.))))
So with your scope, for a shorter period and don't count ;-)))
But it will be where and what to do in pre-retirement age!, ...it just seems to me that the retirement age will be by the time the years since, beginning with 100 :(((
To 50 done and we'll live in a big house with a beautiful wife!, ...What more from life do you want?!
Yes nifiga! I when c decided (apparently out of fear) to build a house thought to erect small meters 6 5 that in the summer for a weekend with his family to live and roomier car type prado 120 leave home to ride and all I'm the luckiest man! But in the end I have now there's a building 12 to 18 without finishing, Windows and doors under a temporary roof for the attic is definitely necessary with balcony and garage, unfinished, Foundation for a bath Yes grant :) In the hell do I do a plot bought well?!
And I'm already 9 hours skated a Wrangler'e! More awkward and uncomfortable machine, I have not met, but, hell, I could buy another after the first dozen minutes behind the wheel. And then another month they are dreaming. Magic, however...
Not a must see — Must feel! )))
But if the senses of touch, you have a problem — a simple method of comparison will help you .
For earlier apologize. But where in the JEEP comfort Mercedes in an emphasis do not see. Can say about the whole line of cars.
5 key won't fit in the JK-th — if only to reduce the Central console with glove box ((
And 6-ku is not measured — if the seats already, and can stand
Understand everything and this is a good idea, but why are you so registered? Your car description is placed where you have to write.
student-1
Dull?! -Hahaha ))))
What do you think — NOT dull?
By the way, unlike you, I sat in both :-)
www.olx.ua/obyavlenie/rec...o-IDBZHPY.html#cf1f333f2f
Of rekaro considered/tried on only new seat :-)
from W207 - only used...and the price tag starts from 80тыр. and above
You do not understand the main priority (apart from comfort) — dimensions for installation in a JK unlimited!
Well takby right...and that type of rekaro classic fu.which, by 3mu alter once and ride for 30 years
The main disadvantage of all of the seats — they don't fit in the JK-th !
Alternatives not so much, unfortunately ((
And speaking of comfort — the competitors -seat BMW 7s and the X5...only they don't fit in the JK
student-1
Dull?! -Hahaha ))))
What do you think — NOT dull?
By the way, unlike you, I sat in both :-)
student-1
And do not compare in beauty and convenience!
This is the best thing ever
student-1
Dull?! -Hahaha ))))
What do you think — NOT dull?
By the way, unlike you, I sat in both :-)
student-1
Feelings here not and — for convenience only !
I sat in 3 variants of rekaro — and they are no comparison with seats from w207 paging (what I had)
From W207-FAT!
This is done very easily and quickly
When the jacket/shirt set only 2 wheel...
if there is a seat swap - to understand them very good. just
Yes but for example the option when you go in the jacket for example or a shirt every time you will not want to reconfigure
What do you mean no memory? )))))
As installed — will stay!
But if you do not like something so beneath his back, and correct-simple ))
I use constantly
Paging is ideal to adjust the side support and lumbar
+ change it depending on the seasons-for example, when wearing a jacket or a jacket/or shirt in the summer.
The thing is, I consider it very necessary and useful !
Feelings here not and — for convenience only !
I sat in 3 variants of rekaro — and they are no comparison with seats from w207 paging (what I had)
Dull?! -Hahaha ))))
What do you think — NOT dull?
By the way, unlike you, I sat in both :-)
What is sad in appearance. I'm sorry, but I would put of rekaro or a good skin even if they bother