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Integrated device Opel Vectra A

This device to my car has nothing to do. Rather the scheme of the device is the same but an order to the Opel Vectra A. PP Which will be installed in the car Moskvich 2141.
Time spent a lot, but the PCB layout was done about 3 days but it was worth it. And the result I want to share. The task to place the indicators in the already existing template. The simplest would be to just solder the LEDs and wires to bring everything for her in some box and not steamed. But if this version that fails to understand then it is very difficult. in the second to give petruha with hundreds of wires and say then he will understand when you put is also wrong. So I decided to make a single charge, which only bring the wires for the sensors. I got it, special thanks to the customer for the patience =).

A little load of photos and then video review

Integrated device Opel Vectra AIntegrated device Opel Vectra AThat's the price of the device will resemble bilateral

Integrated device Opel Vectra AIntegrated device Opel Vectra AAnd tracks a few dozen times moving from one side to another in the lumen is clearly visible.

Integrated device Opel Vectra AIntegrated device Opel Vectra AOne more important thing is the mounting of components

Integrated device Opel Vectra AIf on the back no problems, then on the front you need to solder all MOSFETs and transistors. hiding under the LEDs and mounting after soldering the indicators is not possible.

Integrated device Opel Vectra ASetting of indicators also has a strict sequence. So as to not contaminate and will not reinvent the wheel indicators are set from the bottom to the top. Moreover, depending on the wiring and the legs of the indicator or it passes through the charge (classical mount) and surface mount with a bent leg up or to the side of the indicator.

Integrated device Opel Vectra AHad to find and reduced the thickness of the sound emitter in place of the usual 10 mm is 6 mm but of their existence I knew from past projects.

Integrated device Opel Vectra AIntegrated device Opel Vectra AIntegrated device Opel Vectra AAnd then alternately run all the devices individually.

On the Board there are still 3 jumper wire of MGTF but they can only be used in the backlight because the diodes are connected by chains 3 PCs and then to feed + to the backlight.

Integrated device Opel Vectra AAnother caveat is that the devices despite the fact that they are on the same Board have a separate power supply as + and ground. The backlight also has a separate +12V and ground from that, I have encountered already in their tidy, most of the schemes for the dimer lighting, smooth ignition and extinction are managed for minus. In order not to bind the customer to any lighting scheme is not in contact with the circuit devices.

Well, according to tradition, after the "mnogabukav" video work devices

Thank you master, see you soon...

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xrust83 30.07.19

Embroider 1x1 meter not tried it, but I estimate that it's longer time still =)

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aleks5050 30.07.19

I think where you need more patience to breed a double-sided Board or cross stitching a picture 1х1м

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xrust83 30.07.19

:-)

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vasilii76 30.07.19

hell work ). also remember this action )

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xrust83 30.07.19

I found at the time as the father of charge painted with nail Polish. the truth of the question about tracks of 0.5-0.8 mm did not exist. Drawing pen on a leaf in the cage then minted the point on the PCB and connected them according to leaf. BJ is the method described in the first records, flood is of course a very simplified life

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aleks5050 30.07.19

Just remembered how at the time when there was no technology LUT had to make 100 plat for 200 holes each. Manually it was necessary to dissolve the seal and then raspadura to draw the wiring followed by etching and mounting.

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aleks5050 30.07.19

As I then searched for such drill, was not found. The trick is that the drill is flexible just the tip was carbide. Now only the chinks are starting to do

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xrust83 30.07.19

Drill my father bought in the Czech Republic then. Them for long enough he drilled Emily :-))))

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aleks5050 30.07.19

I've duct-taped the paper in the cage to the PCB, drilled the holes, then cleaned the burrs with emery and draw on the holes nitrocellulose lacquer seal. Then I was lucky that I bought a drill with a carbide tip which began to sit in the one hundredth Board

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you. Tried

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XDJEY 30.07.19

Very jewelry!

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Den707 30.07.19

Night in the "ball pressure"? Caught myself thinking that even MUFON night annoying =)) (maybe it's just my "quirks")

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xrust83 30.07.19

No the disk is not in any of my devices

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Den707 30.07.19

But not for that)) Just the work is so delicate and the jewelry that I was even on this Board (to breed) and even should not dream =))
A dimmer switch in this device have? Lit indicators are muted?

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank You Denis

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Den707 30.07.19

Vadim, as always, great! No words — I love it)))

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greycardinal 30.07.19

need to discuss details. tomorrow I will send an example (picture) what you want.

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xrust83 30.07.19

It is possible for any. This fee to the customer cost 50$ for a guide.

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greycardinal 30.07.19

cool it! and tidy GAZ 3110 similar can be done (instead of the drain of the voltmeter)?

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xrust83 30.07.19

:-) the main thing is not too tight

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himiks 30.07.19

the design is an interesting and painstaking work.
here the brain is developing )

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you. Well 3 days wasted but overcame

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himiks 30.07.19

Well Done, Vadim )
All kompaktinio turned out, installation of dense

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you

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GLcustoms 30.07.19

Oh Kruchenykh

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xrust83 30.07.19

Also all counts in the unit time run 1 segment already checked red yellow 220 Ohm. Green blue 110 Ohms. The only resistors on the segments. The cathodes and not the anodes then the glow will be the same segments. Is from 1 to 4 digits In my practice, the maximum Svornosti which works steadily 14 on the generator at 8 MHz. When the duty ratio of 14 resistors 82 Ohm for red. But every book: the works for 4 seconds per minute in total. But this is an optical illusion. Camera take attenuation

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

the current through the 1 segment in the display 10-20 mA, there's also the usual led, i.e. 1 char = 7х20мА=140mA
But it's all right for static display, if the dynamics are there all the pulses and be considered differently.

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xrust83 30.07.19

pnpe

Most likely in the common cathode/anode LEDs.4 indicator 4 resistor.2 types of indicators 2 value of resistors.

Nonsense, the current through the indicator of 10-20 mA

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xrust83 30.07.19

Then would come the question of why the anodes/cathodes 10 and resistors only 4

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

Well, that's what I thought. Then why? Can all be done beautifully using a dynamic display.

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pnpe 30.07.19

Mono-Uchi

Well, it is clear that the power in the circuit ... what are they worth?

Most likely in the common cathode/anode LEDs.4 indicator 4 resistor.2 types of indicators 2 value of resistors.

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xrust83 30.07.19

Look through the log 80% of the issues out themselves

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

On the Peaks or on Almeleh collected?

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xrust83 30.07.19

I'm not aggressive. Not only for the two devices. Resistors are sequentially, again to increase efficiency and reduce heat. Yes, there are already 4 of the microcontroller. All independent just on the same Board

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

Yes well you're so aggressive?

Ie current resistors for 4 sensors, approx.
I thought that for indicators.
And who controls the indicators? There is certainly a controller is.

Device class motalok. But the color of indicators is not ice, although the masses bought and basically it.

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xrust83 30.07.19

Because through them, directly connects +12 to ground, and the device compares the current through these resistors through a rheostat such as the tank. Thanks to them, the readings are measured in %by the ratio of the system voltage. thus equal to the display value at any voltage. The same barometr will always show 10 liters, when the engine is stopped in a routine and even when the battery will drop to 10V. Satisfied?

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

The answer is just pzdts.

Do nah... what to ask ... just tell the class and move on.

I scheme and do not need, I want to understand why are 2 watt resistors in this scheme.

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xrust83 30.07.19

What is the difference, if there is no concept of the instrument?

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

Well, it is clear that the power in the circuit ... what are they worth?

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xrust83 30.07.19

To dissipate the power

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Mono-Uchi 30.07.19

Forgive me for asking, but why such big resistors in there?

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beast-drc 30.07.19

Weird. probably need to try more )

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xrust83 30.07.19

It is and charted

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beast-drc 30.07.19

what drew the diagram ? very carefully. I was doing a Sprint in Layout but all of the tracks curves turned out )

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xrust83 30.07.19

It is a mask of the customer. I print only for illustrative purposes. My part of the robots finished with the Board

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theoma 30.07.19

Printed on the mask, fix typo. The oil pressure should be kg/cm2, not kg/sm2

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xrust83 30.07.19

UV is worse? to blue is the UV part of the spectrum

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323fbg 30.07.19

so, I do not insist, even though UV

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xrust83 30.07.19

Children driving do not drive. Besides, the customer blue car

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323fbg 30.07.19

the blue color is harmful, especially for children

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xrust83 30.07.19

Not going to believe this but blue lights are asking 80-90% of the customers, however the price of these indicators deters them =)

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pnpe 30.07.19

The blue color is certainly not for everybody.

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sashafeduk 30.07.19

Great job!
Admire!)

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xrust83 30.07.19

Yes, as the scheme and the values I already know to memory

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SmartLada2107 30.07.19

Yes... the work is very good. It was probably the most difficult cost to breed )

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xrust83 30.07.19

:-)

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Godzillka69 30.07.19

Soton-Golden hands) good work, buried in bookmark.

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xrust83 30.07.19

Yes, painstaking

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Co-TECH 30.07.19

Master! Can you imagine what painstaking was done!

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xrust83 30.07.19

It's not high frequency and do not nizkoomnyj equipment, even components use 5%

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Selestine 30.07.19

An excessive amount of solder increases resistance. Do not believe, do measurement

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xrust83 30.07.19

It consumables

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Selestine 30.07.19

Super!
Ps solder not spared)

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theoma 30.07.19

Comment has been deleted

This two equivalent notations: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kil...rce_per_square_centimetre

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theoma 30.07.19

Comment has been deleted

I'm sure this question accurately

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323fbg 30.07.19

)) Yes, for the sake of B*ha, I thought You seek the truth s.fishki.net/upload/post/...2/1282165/rvaiyqnpluq.jpg

and to persuade, I did not intend, this good-bye.

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theoma 30.07.19

Comment has been deleted

You have variables, and there is the legend of units of quantities. And talking about weight here doesn't go anywhere.

www.surpluscenter.com/pro...NGE+PANEL+DRY+GAUGE_L.jpg

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you. About his to the point, how many people so many opinions and tastes.

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drekhaker 30.07.19

Well, to each his own!))) Well done Vadim, sit and marvel) and Sometimes indulge in similar, but purely for myself)

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NightRider77 30.07.19

Yes, I understand)

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xrust83 30.07.19

This pattern of the customer. My work is done

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NightRider77 30.07.19

Kg/sm2 )))

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you

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RaZuSS 30.07.19

beauty)))))

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xrust83 30.07.19


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Strannix 30.07.19

not seen)in love with himself to bother the electronics, lighting, etc.)

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xrust83 30.07.19

I'm waiting too. While you can only show your dashboard if you have not seen yet

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Strannix 30.07.19

nice)) offset)to see how they look already mounted)

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xrust83 30.07.19

Well the mail works

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greenboot7 30.07.19

well done. Also want this. but subarika. )) Oh, I live far away)) but mail does not work.

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xrust83 30.07.19

Pig =) sign

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pro15 30.07.19

Well, you are a LION

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koba75 30.07.19

Very soon

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xrust83 30.07.19

Waiting for the finished result

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koba75 30.07.19

Vadim, thank you, VERY satisfied!
Had time to finish the tidy :)

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Megaomm 30.07.19

Have not crafty electronics — forgot the name of the socket))

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xrust83 30.07.19

I know what you mean, Dip sockets, a round collet. I use them often but in this case there was no need, the current stabbed up to 10 mA, the probability of replacement is minimal.

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Megaomm 30.07.19

Well, there is a platform with cylindrical legs for soldering is plate — be sure to bend and solder. I once upon a time in College doing the running line — where sweidy single inserted in such sites, and similarly, one leg in front of the Board, the other behind. On the other hand is there not power electronics — the likelihood of burnout transylv minimal.

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xrust83 30.07.19

Only LOOT. It was impossible. Parts of the legs does not pass through the fee, I wrote about it.

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Megaomm 30.07.19

Crystal cabochons laser technology or with the photoresist? By the way you can make the LEDs on the mounting pads in case of removal.

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Shisha-xp 30.07.19

Well, if I don't find a factory LSD for Vectra then think about your.
Understand everything handmade!

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xrust83 30.07.19

Only what is here. To repeat my tidy 2107 250$? To develop and build a completely new Board under a different more expensive car. These are isolated instances and not a pipeline so the price is.

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Shisha-xp 30.07.19

it is all tidy (tachometer, speedometer, odometer)or just the fact that there

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xrust83 30.07.19

From$ 50, depending on the instrumentation and the colour of the indicator

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Shisha-xp 30.07.19

how much is a miracle

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xrust83 30.07.19

Vskidku 300$

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Nightwild 30.07.19

How much will it cost electropribory for Toyota Gaia? Indicator tachometer, speedometer, odometer, fuel, battery (voltage and amperage), and standard diode — the handbrake, oil, cushion, checker, abs. All in a green glow, although the checker oil and handbrake can red that would be in the eye rushed, just an audible alarm on the oil level, fuel checker and the handbrake. The order of the elements consider himself on the spot, so that would eye nice for you to collect the.
How much it will be?

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xrust83 30.07.19

Thank you

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Eugen01 30.07.19

Know) anyway, turned out well)

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xrust83 30.07.19

That is not normal. It's just hard because of the fact that it's a hobby in the dashes

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Eugen01 30.07.19

Work is hellish)

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Nexoid 30.07.19

krasava say ;)

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xrust83 30.07.19

?

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Nexoid 30.07.19

!

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LenivijKot 30.07.19

found:)

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xrust83 30.07.19

Read the blog. There are many answers.

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LenivijKot 30.07.19

and how do these boards do?

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Andreika128 30.07.19

How much will the gasoline indicator in a red color and could fit instead of hours prior