Monitoring system tire pressure (TPMS) TyreSafe, Part 2. Tested.
Hello!
In the previous part talked about the acquisition of the monitoring system tyre pressure (TMPS) TyreSafe CMT-TP200. Continue the review system here will tell you about installing it on the car and testing on the go.
Conducted experiments on one of his machines, Suzuki Grand Vitara, because it went to the next trip, and bought TPMS had brought with him. On Sunday morning, washed the car, so the evening of the same day decided to install the system on the vehicle until the wheels are clean:
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Stuck the electronics unit into the 12V socket, the display flashed the numbers of 2.5 bar, but the sensor has not been installed and "registered" in the system, requiring their registration:
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The sensors communicate with the Central unit by radio. To check sensors are learn mode, to do this, press and hold the button until you hear four beeps "beep-beep-beep-beep". The procedure of registration is very simple. After entering the learning mode, it is necessary in the sequence specified in the regulations, to wind alternately the sensors on the wheels, and after the installation of each sensor to press the button to advance to the next sensor. Sensors themselves are also simple:
Unscrew the head cap on the nut:
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Then wound up to the stop sensor:
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Counterclockwise and tighten the locknut, it performs the function of theftproof against thieves that it was harder to Unscrew the sensor:
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When all four sensors on the display the actual tire pressure:
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The wheel sensors look like mushrooms on a stump:
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Now we have to test the system on the go. When driving, realized that I need to move the display from the socket into the cigarette lighter, because using the gearshift lever on the display to look uncomfortable:
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In the cigarette lighter to monitor the tire pressure much easier, the display is on view:
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Interestingly, the designers of this device have taken into account the fact that the cigar lighter of a number of cars have little depth, and given on-the-go from vibrations popping out of the slot. Makes me feel even had for Chery Tiggo 5 to change the cigarette lighter socket. Here's part of the plug is made of soft rubber, which does not allow the plug to pop out, and the Central contact is made movable, with a spring-loaded speed of about 5 mm. All this allows the plug to sit securely even in a shallow nest:
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When you press the display button for a few seconds switches the temperature readings of the air in the tires. At the same pressure there has been some variation in temperature. Perhaps it is the error of the temperature sensors:
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When I got in the car, the tire pressure on the left side increased, perhaps it's time to lose weight:
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But on the move the pressure again equalized, so to lose weight is not necessary:
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It's been a dozen kilometers, the pressure after the mileage increases by 0.1-0.2 bar, because it heats up the air in the tires. And I noticed that the front wheels temperature on the course of 2-3 degrees higher than the rear. What caused it, while only a hypothesis, maybe the load on the front wheels is higher (heavier engine), or it features all-wheel drive transmission impact, or some other factors, I don't know:
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In General on-the-go tire was warmer than the surrounding air at 2-5 degrees C:
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Conclusions:
1. This control system tire pressure turned out to be quite working, I like this app. Of course, the nail in the wheel is not stuck, but the pressure and temperature sensors display correctly.
2. The workmanship of this particular model TyreSafe CMT-TP200 good, so far no complaints. Contrast display, readings are clearly visible even in Sunny weather.
3. The wheel imbalance after installation of sensors on the way, I didn't notice, but swept across the city and on the highway at different speeds.
4. Advantages of the system with external sensors until I see three: the First installation of this system is very simple and takes few minutes and requires no disassembly of the wheel. Second — it can be easily moved from car to car or during a seasonal change of wheels, without having to purchase additional kits or sensors. Third — easy to replace empty batteries of the sensors.
5. Disadvantages of the system with external sensors still see the same three. The first sensors are too noticeable to catch your eye, so there is a risk that they will be stolen, and well, if not pull up with the valves. The second drawback is the sensors can be damaged, for example, in a rut or on the curb/sidewalk. The third minus to swap wheels every time you need to Unscrew the key lock nut and remove the sensor.
6. After all, if you have money, better to put internal sensors, which are installed inside the wheel rim. The pros and cons here, reverse the external sensors. Perhaps I will eventually purchase some.
From myself I will say that the purchase I'm happy, more than that, the house is a box with the same TPMS, but from another manufacturer. Talk about it another time, follow the blog! Machines I have a lot of field activities. ))
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Thank you all and roads without nails! To you!
Petrovich35
It which way to look, I'm on the highway running constantly, at high speeds, there is a puncture the wheel can cost lives, I appreciate her more.
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Yeah, "gangster Petersburg" )) Heated mirrors will cost a maximum of 400-500 rubles, if to do yourself. The only cost is the heating elements.
I agree! But FOR ME-a little expensive, yet there are things more necessary, for example, heated mirrors.Yes and put the car near the house, you steal on the first night! In the van(working) stole the radio which the red costs $ 100. on market day!
Crossovers and SUVs are heavier, and can therefore be felt less. The most dangerous of all major punctures, for example, when armaturinami on a healthy RAID, the wheel went down for a second and you can lose control.
I sat down and thought, maybe you're right!This is my first crossover, before mostly sedans, they just felt flat tire! Well, about the"price of life", then of course no doubt!
It which way to look, I'm on the highway running constantly, at high speeds, there is a puncture the wheel can cost lives, I appreciate her more.
Yes, interesting observation. And the better the internal sensors set, though they will be without the possibility of rearrangement, but outside they are not visible. I am due to lack of experience I bought outer.
front axle steering and the motor on it, respectively, and heat a little more on the front wheels.
funny thing is the sensors on the wheels would be smaller in General, it would be cool!
Great report! Now we have the system paging!
But seriously, it's okay — that's just the fact that they are outside, no ice, or he will roll, or will help
Once I was about originality yet not to bother, but the meaning of them is definitely.
Oh, thank you, the idea of another and broaden horizons!
Interesting "gadget", very interesting.
The city benefits from it, it seems small, but on the highway where speed is more, and the risks of "otkruto" less — the most it.
Hi. I bought aliexpress.com, just search for "TPMS" will give a bunch of links.
There are versions with internal sensors, so that kolhozah not necessary, there is already a sensor Assembly with valves go. There are more powerful batteries, 5 years is enough, and has interchangeable batteries. So the choice is wide.
Inside wheel would be their stuff.I have a valve stem made of stainless steel and inside it the two nuts www.remshina95.ru/_mod_fi...s/catalog-ventilya/65.jpg so to fix the issue.And they work inside of the wheel will be?Other pressure sensors like the batteries don't change.So these sensors are the most optimal.
A useful thing and would save lives and money economic used night can't see and feel the machine that pulls the wheel, only when the very pull, but the wheel is not be saved(sorry)
While holding on, and Yes, there is such a risk. It is best to put the inner on the rim of the wheel, but it is more expensive.
Want to tell a story, but undoing can, Gopnik sorts. I have the original rays valve caps nicked in the first month, really 2 caps left on the other side. Then I bought a cheap set at Auchan for 70R and twisted... love it! Would you such as to take into account not comprehend, they catch the eye much stronger.
I am also generally happy, now the ride became calmer, until needed. The plans put internal sensors on the winter set of wheels.
Installed a similar system. Works the same, looks almost the same, there are small differences (black gauges, less receiver — displays in a circle the parameters and not all 4, orange backlight). And so, on the pros and cons — I agree completely. By the way, any time saved wheel already. Low profile hard to see visual difference, even at 1 Bar. And the sensor starts beeping and pokazyvet the wheel has deviated from the norm.
just for information : Renault Laguna 2 (2001) control system tire pressure goes normally in the basic configuration(without this system, cars were not made)
what to do with it then? Sold as BU? If the car will go — so there is a ready type monitoring system. And if a miscarriage, so figure whether to cry at the extra hole?
not to shoot every time the sensor for the swap. Two nipples — one for pump, other for the gauge.
I agree, but I think that the tire heats up more from friction than from the wheel.
"And I noticed that the front wheels temperature on the course of 2-3 degrees higher than in the back."
Brake discs heat up and transfer temperature to the wheels.
I work in -20 (lithium batteries work in extreme cold), it is possible that Your sensors have to change the batteries, it is unknown how much they spent in the warehouse. Will soon post an entry about changing the batteries, because on one machine in the cold, too, began to lose the sensors.
Came, put, everything is super. But how came the frosts start problem when warmer -5 everything works like below -5 (-12 last days) all sensors will no longer see, it got warmer again, everything works in the end in winter not in use. How you system works in the winter? Took your link, exactly the same.
Programming easy. Sensors on Careud already registered on TyreSafe, it is necessary in turn to wind sensors on the valves, each time clicking a button in learn mode.
Thanks for the report. Get this Kia. On file are internal, set before the price increase, cost 20000, system + 9 sensors (summer and winter rims + a spare), it's worth a 35000, in fact, decided to choose the option with removable. Difficult to program?
Antares34
A good thing, but the money is not worth 3 pennies))
May 2017 Ali in a great performance in a nice box with a magnetic Zakrevskiy 3 297 RUB ru.aliexpress.com/item/TP...=2114.13010608.0.0.CgR7Xv
But I bought 2 690 RUB with a mobile version (with phone) and was discounts...
I was taking in about 4500 rubles., but it was last spring. Now because of the exchange rate may have risen.
Soon for a year until stolen. Although the region also depends. When I lived in Kaluga, my machine has once a year been opened, and is in the center of the city. The city itself is good, just a lot of junkies got divorced.
Yes, to go to long, specblock for sensors the main thing is not to lose. For a year installed, thieves are not interested in the sensors, although the car lives on the street.
Useful device. As part of the theft. In my yard stole shiny metal caps, not only me, but all machines in the range of 50 meters. . Aggravation chtoli who it was.
In the city day to day use like and there is no need. But on long trips on the highway the most. I understand install them and to prescribe a 15-minute Affairs, just before leaving. And on the track to get better feel will.
We have, apparently, fools are wrong, generally do not show interest. For a year installed.
Internal there are pros — protected from damage and thieves. In the outer battery to replace is very simple + it is simple and affordable www.drive2.ru/b/2767212/
Good thing, when I wrote about their internal www.drive2.ru/l/845853/ they have a huge disadvantage, not to replace the battery, and in case of failure of at least one sensor, monitor will not work.
Hello. Sensors serve a second year, survived the winter, all work as expected, oseltamivir after winter changed the batteries. In General, no complaints. The sensors do not matter, neither adults nor children, is installed on three of my machines that live year-round on the street. Already two weeks on vacation in Belarus, too, no one cares.))
Welcome!
Well as sensors — the second year survived?
Interesting question of vandalism — read in the comments that the year passed without incident))
Glad that you liked. I have no complaints TyreSafe CMT-TP200 for the second year running on two machines, the winter also sensors survived well.
Please. The device and sensors TyreSafe I have work perfectly on two machines, only positive impressions.
Hello. I have to operate two different systems, TyreSafe and Careud (about both I mentioned in the blog). Over time, the best proven TyreSafe, high-contrast display, sensors are OK, everything works fine even in the cold, and works simultaneously on two machines (ie I have three machines, on two TyreSafe and the third Careud). Have Careud not so bright screen, sometimes loses contact with the sensors, I would not recommend.
after a time, would advise to buy this device? whether there were glitches, false testimony, failure?
Good day. It is a regular USB charging. The device is a socket, so to compensate on the body removed the USB connector.
Good day! TyreSafe CMT-TP200 I do not understand why there is a USB connector, do not tell me?
Caps rogues for stealing, on the bikes. Yes, such risk is what drives the internal sensors will not fit. In this respect external more versatile. From loosening they have lock nuts without a key with the sensor to remove. If only with nipples to pull.
My first pizdili caps, plain metal, then I tried to put the caps on pressure sensors that change color when the pressure drops. And spizdili, what all this occurred in different habitats, at different times and on different machines, don't want... That damn subtracted withdrew Ali internal Nissan rims is not approached((
These sensors are not interesting for the third year.)) Installed on my three machines. During this time they traveled all over Northwest, Central and southern regions, everything is fine. I think concerns are exaggerated.)) Besides the advantages, the internal sensors have their drawbacks — the difficulty of changing batteries can damage the tire, it is difficult to move to another car. So I stayed on the outside.
We spistat on the same day)) did Not consider the options of sensors, sovmestimi with nipples?
Work perfectly, winter and summer. A year ago, changed the batteries in the sensors, and for prevention. So it's all good.
To make it simple. You can alter the power to the cigarette lighter, put the additional relay through which power to the cigarette lighter will be supplied only through the ignition switch.
I have voltage at the cigarette lighter, and therefore on the radio, and all that is powered by him, appears by applying ground to the battery. Buying TPMS, was unpleasantly surprised by this one. Now we need to savvy how to make in another way
Hello. Power switch no. You need to use the outlet, which is de-energized when the ignition is turned off. On some car brands outlet is constantly energized, but the cigarette lighter is normally de-energized. I have exactly what. And constantly remove/insert is not an option, quickly get bored.
Good time of day. The pressure controller is powered by the cigarette lighter, that is, when the production of vehicles parked without disconnecting the battery it is necessary to constantly remove the receiver from the wall outlet and at the exit — turn it on again... Or it has a power button?
Odesit
Interesting device!
And You don't know what the range of the signal?
Just a thought to put these sensors on wheels trailer-trailer... And on the way, until you notice that the wheel of the trailer is lowered, it is already turning into a wuss...
But I am confused by the distance from the trailer wheels to the main unit, which in the cigarette lighter... In my case it is about 6-7 meters...
Do You think it caught sensor signal?
For a length of 7 meters just takes. Checked on your two-axle trailer. Machine length with trailer 10 meters. The cigarette lighter under the radio.
Good afternoon. The range in the documentation is not specified, but I can experiment, I'm curious. In the next few days I will check and will write.
Interesting device!
And You don't know what the range of the signal?
Just a thought to put these sensors on wheels trailer-trailer... And on the way, until you notice that the wheel of the trailer is lowered, it is already turning into a wuss...
But I am confused by the distance from the trailer wheels to the main unit, which in the cigarette lighter... In my case it is about 6-7 meters...
Do You think it caught sensor signal?
Hello. According to specs, up to 3.5 bar (51 PSI). Only we must remember that the sensor begins to transmit indications only on a spinning wheel from a speed of >15 km/h. Apparently, it is done to save the battery of the sensor while the car is parked.
Good afternoon. Tell me how much maximum pressure the sensor can withstand? interested in the possibility of connection to the pneumatic system)))
Petrovich, just a huge thanks for the tip. I already here somewhere I left a comment when I bought the same system. Now leave another one later, tens of thousands of km away, and caught the third screw since that time. Again in the rear wheel. Feel puncture certainly not sensed, the sensor started beeping when driving on a forest road at a pressure of 1.5 (I reduced the lower bound in winter), in the end, 15 minutes of feeding mosquitoes and one flagellum raw rubber from the kit, go on!
I recommend to all! A very useful purchase!
There are TPMS in all sizes and colors for every taste. Xiaomi is a solid company, but the product from TyreSafe is done accurately and working properly for the first year. Internal sensors have their advantages, too, they considered, but important to me was the ability to quickly reshuffle on another set of wheels, so I took outer.
Cool a little... and I got TPMS from 70mai is a child corporatic Xiaomi, the truth is there Dakiki the internal is not like you...
Wheels are balanced specifically to the installation of sensors. The imbalance is not felt, apparently, the influence of sensors is small.