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The Fireball project: disassembly, overhaul and test results

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As they say "hired a gardener this evening" :)
Now you can not mow the grass, and deal with bullshit. Especially if you get out of work early.

Lamp, recall, are:

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

In General, the problem number 1: the very gemorno to disassemble these lights.
Glass firmly sits on Hermetica, heating is not particularly effective.
In the end, freaked out and fucked up just with a screwdriver on the perimeter. The burrs then will undermine, well, either buy more glass or other gadgets. It is necessary to think.

Here is a "stock charge". On the sides of the single diodes is DRL. Type. Shine less than 1 watt in total)
In the middle of the 3 diodes, one lamp gave out 650 mA, the second — 445мА.
That is, 9 and 6 watts... judging by the other tests, the correct value is 6 watts.

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

But... no, it's not blue shit, it's thermal interface in Chinese :)
"Spit uncle Liao" is called. Right in the heart.
How long will work 6 watts with such a quantity of thermal paste is necessary to guess only.
The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

But what thermalpad uncle Liao "slaps" on their boards. 1/3 of what you need.
Where there it will heat through these "strings" is also a question. On the driver chip the same crap. Bitches.

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

And this is the Cree XP-L. Single chip 10 watt. In top speed. Well, the driver certainly normal, your on 2A.
On 3 and with a microcontroller, but it is then, now to torment the diodes on this Board is a sin.
The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

The final commercial version :) Shutyu. Test.
3 pieces Cree XM-L and my most unassumingly driver 2A.

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

And now "sweet".
As Shine.

STG is great the beam is very narrow and very broad.
Replacing the diode on the form of STG is not affected, all gorgeous and even became sharper.
All photos in manual mode (shutter speed, aperture), settings are the same.

This is a stock 6 Watts. Well... Yes, well, widely, and I think slightly better than the 35 Watt halogen H11.
To the fence ~25m. Not blind at all, in principle. From bullockstone, of course, very different — each time retreated and watched.

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results
The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

But my modificirovannaja version. 21 Watt.
Let me remind you that the photo is ONLY ONE PTF.
For those who don't think the photo write — result Ah...nny. It is LIGHT (does not Shine, and LIGHTS) at the level of the regular xenon. Yes, the shadows long, but this is purely due to the low position.
I am, frankly, that's not really expected. Who was screaming about opswat — here's the second middle in fact.
All sorts of Hella nervously Smoking in aside, talking about the farm type lisovanim PTF did not speak.

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

For comparison, the regular xenon

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

And this is my current lamps in PTF mode the far, 30 Watt

The Fireball project disassembly overhaul and test results

Modified PTF for 5 minutes, warmed up to "lukewarm".
That is so light you can ride constantly.
I will order a normal Board, make another 2 rows of diodes, for fun I'll try to make "far" 80 watts — if you put a number below and a number above, it will just need a strong illumination into the distance.

Something like that.
In General, everything turned out as I expected.

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timenergo 30.07.19

When I took them in hands did not expect that so well done and the fixing metal, a surprisingly straight for China with the same price

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

In fact, after the simple fashion, this is the best in the world tomance diode essentially. All sorts of OEM from BMW and DIY Morimoto nervously Smoking in aside. So Yes, Chinese vampires that are timid on the design boards, but everything else is done perfectly.

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XoTTaBbl4 30.07.19

Pornography, she and China pornography, Chinese pornography so separate pestni.
Well, now at least good came from these trinkets.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Max, Hella, shit, there the lights twice less )) I want another mode to do so while it is only the first tests.

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Tirmi 30.07.19

BLL
Serge you jobs BL
Each time higher and higher
Postponed I bubble on your balls)) fire))))
Don't forget the driver with the gates))

Hello д2с I even decided not to put in the PTF
Although nurtured and prepared gooood!))

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well this is our difference ) I critical

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PGraph 30.07.19

I'm not critical 20% — so 20%, with 15 watts per headlight (include three emitter, 5 W) that does not greatly disappoint. Dimensions will be smaller, the shape of the entire module rectangular — shaped of the lens.
There are more in the nature of a Fresnel lens. That would be quite cool...

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Lenses you do, I should say. For pouring you should be under pressure. In the poloidal case the losses will be 10 percent. And if you do not "push", 20

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PGraph 30.07.19

Well, it is, of course, no offense! :)
I will watch the evolution of your PTTK, look for lenses for its.
Good luck!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well blah, you voiced the obvious, no offense :) Well, except that the words "astigmatic" I forgot for a long time :)
The Board has long been in production, and checkerboard're not needed.
Headlight is not to say that expensive. I bought 4 pairs at 2900 5000 in addition to the first and second 7000 ) for the 2900 are the same as for 5000

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PGraph 30.07.19

If without emotions, I'm just trying to understand how this headlight works, to estimate the possibility of a repetition structure. That is from the human perspective, just understand the physics. To convince you of something — there is no such desires, I respect such as you, considering the opponent rather competent in his job. Just sincerely believe (may be mistaken, not a question) that in this type of the headlamp reflector is not needed. Thinking out loud, as they say. If you include it with the lens, but without the reflector, it is possible to see this (or I'm a fool, and in General you are right :)). While all wrote it — finally saw the reflector :))) that collects the light coming past the lens up and down. The pics did not immediately realize where he is, and that's what it is. I apologize. He's a little complements the lens in terms of efficiency (the price of a small defocusing of the beam). That does not contradict your observations.
Here, an astigmatic lens, that is not the same in the horizontal and vertical plane. What she collects — it's all clear. Vertical is very good collects, the diodes in focus. Horizontally — no obligation. Hence, the cylindrical shape suggests itself as the most easy to repeat.
If I'm already quite tired — I'll try not to get it. Just buy vtridorogo simple "little thing", which is also necessary to alter — not good, thoughts about your option.
Just say about adding rows of emitters for high beam. The number above will give a band of light under the nose of the car. The number below will give the individual a clear band above the horizon. Another thing — the checkerboard pattern, the crystals have to overlap each other vertically. The spacing of the diodes horizontally the weather will do, places under the lens bulk, reflector under it too can be cut without problems. For PTF've been burning the main (upper) row, and further all the diodes.
All the best!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I think no use to continue the conversation.

I Russian and white that have personally tried.
I did it. Saw and held in hand, and you nifiga not seen, Choate there on a photo saw, but persistently telling me that it's not so... strange how it looks...unhealthy...

And physics, of course, is not your strong point, just do not understand how to vygljadet converging lens.

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PGraph 30.07.19

Colored — mean, "chromium coating" reflector? This is a big problem?
Look at the first picture — well, there is no reflector, the diodes on the Board can be seen, the reflector is not visible. If to look a photo reflector, but no lens...
Looked at the pictures — the lens is not exactly a cylinder, but Oh to hell with it. With a clean cylinder (without reflector) would work too, STG will provide a clear area of illumination is wide. It is necessary to try the case for the lens.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

You can even five times to apologize, but this fact will not change :)

STG forms a reflector. I've included a spotlight without a lens, on the basis of that claim.
The lens still focuses the beam a little and stretch it horizontally.
But the main part is a reflector.

You can even cast from silicone, it's not a problem.
To paint you than you? :)

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PGraph 30.07.19

Sorry, but there is STG that is a lens shape, reflector Pettneu owned in part, because through the lens it stupidly is not visible. The lens is CYLINDRICAL (in cross-section is part of the cylinder), it can be of Plexiglas or politiki/epoxy to mold, removing the mold from the chrome pipe (for example).

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

OmegaBY

If it is good for microscopes, why is it bad for the car?
Lenses for xenon glass are doing, and for ICE optics too.
And despite the size, like not a pound weighs? And this lens is clearly smaller. That is especially the focusing part, and not that the sides hung.

I wrote:
and. Heavy
b. Have PMMA light transmission is better
V. the Plastic is easier and cheaper

Optics for xenon has a different operating temperature as you can guess :)
For ICE optics one glass does not. Well, maybe there are, of course, examples, but it is only the exception that proves the rule.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

It is under the lens. And STG formed by it in fact.

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

I focus not see the reflector. Where is he?
Without reflector losses will be great, but I just didn't see it in the photo. Otherwise, really no sense to fuss.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well, if it's about the handmade one-off, Yes.
But it is easier to buy and tear from ready.
I don't think glass will be cheaper...but hoo nose.

Gravy, by the way, that 50% of the work makes the reflector.

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

In X6 100% glass.
I realize that it is cheaper and easier, but I do that to make a lens of PMMA nowhere, and glass these lenses do side.
Trained I like that the samples with different focal lengths, but they are small for a single diode.
I'll try to ask to made a long 3 diode. However the holder will have misrecite myself...
For experiments...

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I wrote:
and. Heavy
b. Have PMMA light transmission is better
V. the Plastic is easier and cheaper

Optics for xenon has a different operating temperature as you can guess :)
For ICE optics one glass does not. Well, maybe there are, of course, examples, but it is only the exception that proves the rule.

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

If it is good for microscopes, why is it bad for the car?
Lenses for xenon glass are doing, and for ICE optics too.
And despite the size, like not a pound weighs? And this lens is clearly smaller. That is especially the focusing part, and not that the sides hung.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well we, like, about automotive optics, and not about microscopes )

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

Okay, I'm probably the wrong picture of the scale evaluated.
We have lenses for microscopes glass do... and all over the world too...

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

In glass with a pound pull. No one does glass for a long time already, and PMMA light transmission is better

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

so there's a kind of lens is not very large.
the rest of the decor for the installation part.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Glass is makes no sense to do because of the weight. Parameters can be removed by buying original

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

I can such lens from glass to make. And enlighten even...
I have the parameters of the lenses...

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

There sfericheskoi lens, it's not a reflex optics. And the quality of printing on 3D no

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ivanescence 30.07.19

But it is possible to make a model of the reflector to repeat on the 3D-printer? You can train and mass production will be ;) If anything, I'll be first in line for such a device)

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Demik42 30.07.19

Vskidku, what will be the approximate budget of your tomanak?

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alexandritus 30.07.19

Waiting for implementation of the finished product. Very interesting.

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Nigrechok63 30.07.19

Thank you) then the sense is, waiting for the final result.

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Stampede 30.07.19

Nigrechok63

Sergei, you are a magician! A striking result) And what color temperature from cree? And I wonder how the "fireballs" in wet weather behave)))

Went in a terrible fog and rain with a Volvo. The Volvo is only xenon, I have xenon and fog with yellow bulbs. In fact from PTF's useless. There were a couple of situations where the PTF was given the win. But it was minor. More important than brightness and STG. Of course, in wet weather, better visibility with yellow light. But the diodes with the same bean don't get together often Shine less brightly. It is therefore easier and cheaper to put a white bright diodes.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

5000K, as all of my other flashlights. Normal are they?

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Nigrechok63 30.07.19

Sergei, you are a magician! A striking result) And what color temperature from cree? And I wonder how the "fireballs" in wet weather behave)))

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

Sergey, and where there is a reflector? In the photo, I didn't notice.
Lens straight or arched along?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Reflector plus spherical lens.
Practice at home is impossible.

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Paparazzzo 30.07.19

The result is good! And what kind of lens or lens system is used inside? Can I repeat without buying essentially junk tumani?

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EuroWaZ 30.07.19

Sergey, welcome! The only ones I have are already a couple in stock lies. How much will it cost to upgrade? :)))

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Bubligum121 30.07.19

Well Serge, again waiting for more)))campaign have been thinking about where the old lamp from PTF to put))))

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Evakuator25 30.07.19

Cool, I would have bought a souped up

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ckarim 30.07.19

I identity the price of the device

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Romeo-Moscow 30.07.19

Super! In PM Mona the price of the finished device)

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gameboi 30.07.19

Class, a very impressive result when it's finished. And yellow (~2700k temperature) is also really such to make? After all, in the fog\rain\snowfall with yellow would be better to see the road.

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Jammin0300 30.07.19

You can link to them?)

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timenergo 30.07.19

Will not burn, a person for a year are, of course, the feather Shine do better

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Stampede 30.07.19

They are impressed with Sergey after he had them remade. So if you're going to take, take, Sergei redone. No alterations will burn quickly due to pigeon poop

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LEDovik 30.07.19

Sergei, good morning. Thank you for such a detailed report. If you are impressed — it is necessary to take. Will take. Long dreamed of extra light. That would be like a day. Here it is the new era of Led Light

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xim737 30.07.19

Well)
All as expected!
Remain in anticipation of new tests with 3 rows!

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MaxDME 30.07.19

Well then, let's wait!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Don't know yet, need to datastorepath with normal cards, and there already and to think.
J up should be no collective farm in the regular places.

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MaxDME 30.07.19

Serge, to buy such alteration or wait for the finished version? On jihe they easily stand up or the bumper it is necessary to elaborate?

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Phantom-258G 30.07.19

The result after the modification turned out very decent!
Respect !

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M-AW 30.07.19

PTS curious.
Tiny correction: H11-55W; 35-H8
Zhdems...

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timenergo 30.07.19

Great report, not that I have))) I think it is better to make two rows: one tomance, the second DRL

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greyvoyager 30.07.19

I feel it will be piece goods.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

at this moment there are no plans to do this.
so I definitely saw them will not.
and then we'll see.

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Drum666 30.07.19

Great report. And how much money these lights you will have to cost with the upgrades. ?

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timenergo 30.07.19

Three thousand eight hundred

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MAXRUS85-4x4 30.07.19

The price of issue of Kommersant)?

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timenergo 30.07.19

MAXRUS85-4x4

Yes, my jaw dropped! I'm impressed.
And the driver what?

Where would these lenses to get! well, at least something similar.
PS And under the driver always need heat to make.

Can I purchase such

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

That it is much more accurate more accurate and more efficient. Frequency post 10 times more.

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OmegaBY 30.07.19

High Performance Lights

It is no secret. A6210GEUTR.

Than this driver is better АХ2003?
If better of course...

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MAXRUS85-4x4 30.07.19

Thanks Sergey. To read about him.

PS I know You are ready to build the driver on-Board mass-produced in industrial conditions is made. Properly understood.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

It is no secret. A6210GEUTR.

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MAXRUS85-4x4 30.07.19

Is it a secret? I'm talking about the chip itself. asked.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Driver usual. My. Hundred years have to reverse used. With the heat everything is normal, I have learned quite normal Board design with heavy thermoregulate.

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MAXRUS85-4x4 30.07.19

Yes, my jaw dropped! I'm impressed.
And the driver what?

Where would these lenses to get! well, at least something similar.
PS And under the driver always need heat to make.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Price for a pair of 28 thousand. Think wanting the crowd, all the more want to buy

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iazyk 30.07.19

Hello!
And about such PTF that you can tell someone has put www.allhella.ru/catalog/m...odiodnyy-de-svetodiodnyy/

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iazyk 30.07.19

Sergey Hello! I bought the same as yours I break. It is possible to order you have the finished boards with all the trimmings LEDs driver if Yes then how much it will cost.

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EngineerDaVlad 30.07.19

Already want!)))
Case wizard afraid)))

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EuroWaZ 30.07.19

:))) For may is the right time! ))) Waiting for results!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Because no hunting was prazdniki to do it. I'm on the bike riding, Quadra, booze and moral decay. It is enjoyable. Reach your hands, draw and order fees normal, then finish. Success was gorgeous, left technique.

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EuroWaZ 30.07.19

Sergey, why didn't you graduate? Has not achieved the desired success?

I have found three willing with such lights ))) Ready so to speak to give Pdfci in Your Golden hands!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

No, not finished. And not the fact that the price will be

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EuroWaZ 30.07.19

Sergey, welcome! Finished a project for the alteration of these PTF? I have 2 sets of these. How much will it cost to remodel each set? My 2 led strips — You remove them completely or replace?

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Antowka60rus 30.07.19

I would also charge with two-three rows of diodes bought, that you could use as DRL and tomance. What else to come up with two lines? To leave like an envelope? Can also add brightness?

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Cherdynsev 30.07.19

already read above Your response to koment smile) honest)))

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

How to get a new Board, and before that they must draw and send to production.

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Cherdynsev 30.07.19

when You have a sequel? check every day)))

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

It is to you, the Chinese

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DEADulya 30.07.19

super. Do you plan to "implant" the decision to not round tumani?
Well, something versatile lenses in the headlights

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

In the photo you can see everything, and in the text I wrote.
STG is great, illumination is not. Not blinding at all.

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DEADulya 30.07.19

Gee)))) T9) is not sent by looking)
Right: what this solution with STG?)
Is there a glare?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

And this STG solutions beam top bottom Yes

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DEADulya 30.07.19

And that this solution STG

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I have no idea. Povilika clearly

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Igor-32rus 30.07.19

they are good but the unit that went to him went missing(lost) if you connect to premul they barely Shine that stick instead of block

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

To throw out. Or read the manual.

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Igor-32rus 30.07.19

HELP WITH daytime running lights sho-me unit BARELY MISSING the LEDS WHAT to DO?

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iazyk 30.07.19

Hello! Appeared full led fog with DRL's beautiful, but tsenik. www.golf-tuning.ru/Renaul...yie-faryi-hrom-17395.html

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iazyk 30.07.19

Forgot to add these PTF from www.coplusinc.jp/coplus/product.html#c1fgs

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Jonngood 30.07.19

Colleagues, as you dismantle them?!
ETOGES impossible some lens refuses to come out ((

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bilinza 30.07.19

Yeah, there is no limit to perfection

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dan7777 30.07.19

respect you! long burn this case there are diodes 10ватт in the form of a square and lenses, here's a question for you - I've PTF with the reflector and lens if you put the diode distance from the led to the lens plays what role or the lens directly on top of the diode to sculpt?and about the driver - my diodes are heated horror the radiator from the system unit (processor )-gets hot, feed the led direct from the battery 12V what driver it is advisable to put a reference to aliexpress or self-made variant on several of the available items, maybe just a resistor or without it to manage? Thank you!

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EngineerDaVlad 30.07.19

Sorry(
I wonder what is the width of light from these modified PTF (degrees)
And whether the width is more, if you place in series 3 and 4 of the crystal?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Nothing happens, it shows in the construction.

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EngineerDaVlad 30.07.19

And Lepage haven't tried you to tune? There are in fact reflector is — I wonder what will happen)

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Pasha72Ru 30.07.19

Good day! Is it possible to implement this modification for me?

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Jonngood 30.07.19

The beam is two times wider (in proportion to the size of the LED crystal)- only as DRLs.

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marsic-84 30.07.19

well, in that case, all of a sudden would THIS lenses made slightly wider than the height of the beam

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I'm not interested, because even finger obviously THIS lens will work with him not as intended.

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marsic-84 30.07.19

So the question: with one Cree XHP70 not tried? I wonder how this lens will focus.

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greyvoyager 30.07.19

High Performance Lights

About "9 led" the first time I heard People got the test kits, waiting for reports

Painted reflectors and side lenses Chorny. When you turn off the headlamp appearance became different, I don't know how to treat this. But in aerochem option left unnecessary glare, blinding now finally. Dipped xenon and the more illumination it gives. In General 👍.

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Vitalik858A51 30.07.19

The diodes in the 3 series, tipo — DRL, far...
Also want to upgrade.
And what is the price of the test kit?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

About "9 led" the first time I heard People got the test kits, waiting for reports

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Vitalik858A51 30.07.19

Well, that there 9тидиодной modification?
Identity lying in the garage these lanterns

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Njoy 30.07.19

Have it running in the basement H13. now are the usual galogenki — so they are useless almost there. yellow and do not illuminate anything. In PTF are diodes. Also do not Shine. Yuzayu as DRLs. it looks like this prntscr.com/9hypzz
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prntscr.com/9hyqfs diodes are. 901 per couple Ali. in short, they don't hate me, but near/dal angry... and galogenki heated and warm glass and they dry on every road of Guano, and the PTF does not adhere.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well, if it's not head light, and all sorts of DRL/turn signals, I think you can.

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Njoy 30.07.19

And you can come up with something to replace the poor halogen American option on the Mustang with base H13 and H10?

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turlyun 30.07.19

well, in any case due to the low mounting height even when the fucking light from the PTF, the result will be less spectacular than a good beam. But in KACH-ve a Supplement to the middle light very well. By the way, tomance Microde very good light width! I have such standing, but with the xenon light they are much better than halogen, with a good STG (when put xene first checked in the shop as it will Shine in terms of flare past the "goal"))))

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Itala 30.07.19

There certainly is, but from the side. Before that the previous owner put xenon. I went and took a picture of the light from him in the subway. (directed PTF was max down). Then put the LEDs, and also filmed in the same place at the same distance, then lifted them a little to not Shine as the xenon 50 cm from the bumper, and a bit further away (to the lower edge of the wall were getting to (the junction of the floor and wall), that could be seen from the place even with them and filmed. In the end, raised the LEDs higher xenon in first light is better than xenon (evenly the light is distributed on the pavement, not spots and some lines, highlights and xenon is like a haze all the lights slightly and almost ceiling) and wall up light is not falling as from xenon. From xenon were some vertical light stripes on the wall, and these led on a wall light falls (gets about the same amount of light on the wall from both dimensions). Ie they are not blind as xenon. Go with them in fog, rain, snow and poor visibility. Much better with them. No one blinked once. In addition, traveled with friends on long distances (they are on passenger cars), with his father (SUV). Asked then, blind or not. Said as middle, not blind. Even 1 time I asked to see, blind or not. And tried to move on long distances and watch. Not blind. Photo if to take a picture up close looking at the lights, but in the photo the flare is, but as well as from the middle (the camera apparently, so any light in the dark starts to paint, it is necessary to think how to take a picture maybe). So in your tests it may be like that and shows itself not, but in real life, in practice, normally. Maybe PTF is not a regular stand or fixture as it is rotated (xenon because I was stuck without alteration), and can therefore better light eventually came out. Instead put Xena for inspection staff galogenki, light like 0 from them, even at close range by a person you can lean on PTF (can of course lamps are cheaper).
And how can they Shine up from the bottom if led 2? Then they must up and down to Shine simetrice if they have out-of-focus is with the reflector. And if galogenki, it is in all 4 sides, as she round the light diverges from the spiral. If the light is right and the focus is going, it doesn't have to Shine up and down. The LEDs are directed not forward (then blind) and the hand, respectively the light reflected from the reflector and needs to fall correctly if we want the distance from the reflector. Sources of light less (than the filament, which shines in a circle) accordingly, just a portion of the light in some areas needs to be clipped, there should be nedostaet in comparison with the standard lamp.
Looked at the photo diodes installed (then rearranged them and the situation has changed) but in the photo I have the diodes at the sides left and right, not up and down. You should try to turn a half-turn (up, down, and to watch the flow of light).
On account of the blink, better blinking light, I always blink, who can think about the headlights, and he would be over if I blinked, then for example it would be clear about PTF. But I blink only when I forgot to switch far. 2 times in 3 years of operation of the car.
Me more pissed DRL at half intensity or whatever in far do. Kick it as a blind, even during the day. Or those idiots in full heat or go idiotic with this floor heater, like it or not, the light still in his eyes after all, then at least the floor, as though from the glow, personally I blind and often, almost every 10th car. As we drive closer, we see that the section of the burn where the far and the middle does not Shine, respectively, this DRL.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I tested the bulb as you. The report for a year if not more.

First your LEDs are not very correctly, so Shine a little out there.
Take a photo in the dark and compare with the stock lamp.
Secondly there is no STG and it's not the fact Google everything is written how to Shine PTF. You Shine from the bottom up just in the eye. Stoke is shining parallel to the road above axis PTF.
If nobody blinks on the road, it means nothing — I personally every freak is also not blinking, but this does not mean that they are not blind.

Second, the impact there of 1280 lumens at approximately the temperature of the heat sink 90 degrees.
This is slightly more than the regular halogen at 12V (1260 lumens) and less than the halogen at 14V (almost 1400 lumens).
So the meaning of these lamps is that as DRLs. Night with them to go — bydliste, sorry, in other words I can not find.

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Itala 30.07.19

Cool though:) It would be time, too, so would do, but yet stuck the LEDs in regular PTF, kind and never has and Shine well, at least better than xenon when there was, it lit up was.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

www.drive2.ru/o/b/1724614/
the links in each topic's description is, prices

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VAZap 30.07.19

poke nose prices can't find

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Yes, you can — in the first theme of the blog.

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VAZap 30.07.19

thanks cool lamp by the way! where prices look at the DRL turn ?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Dlaa rn098

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VAZap 30.07.19

what is a PTF?

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yOR0 30.07.19

Sergey, when it appears the Board ?))

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WooDzy 30.07.19

To release far?

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Xromrock 30.07.19

Gorgeous =)

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Aleksey402 30.07.19

planned boards on sale?

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Evgeny05 30.07.19

when these are on sale?

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greyvoyager 30.07.19

Hellish shit

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Recha 30.07.19

In jokes future physicians regarding diseases of old age, and it sounds like this question: what is better to choose Parkinson's or Alzheimer's? The choice of potential patient, of course not, but students will always find the answers: Parkinson's disease is undoubtedly more acceptable, because "better to spill a little bit of cognac in the pants, than to forget where she hid a bottle." So this doesn't apply to me, I'm in good health and quite adequate, and what you want. But you know what stupid is getting smarter, and we're just... old fools :-)))

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Age is not an indicator of the presence of a brain, for the indication of a high probability of Alzheimer's )
Watching on TV, and we really like the thread here.

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Recha 30.07.19

Your coldest "teach materiel" does not impress me, I think that tomance this one, and extra LED in the foggy Farah is another. So you have to learn the materiel.
I think our debate is finished, if you're like Pindos not admit reality and taldonish that "Russian aggressors" and do what they want in the plan.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I haven't toldonyat.
On descriptive level, these tumanami couple of years traveled for several hundred people across the country and a lot of reviews there in the fog and outside the fog.
And dashed they are generally much longer than even two of your life.

Who are you what you want to prove?
With yellow tumanami do not travel a hundred years and no problems. Why? Teach materiel and understand.

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Recha 30.07.19

I will not teach, but just noticed the fog lights and additional light is a big difference. You heard the sound, and really don't know what it is and toldonyat "teach materiel". My life was the trip except when on the yellow tomancak and the ride was not practically possible — a solid "milk" even in the middle light, not to mention far.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

I do not care how much someone has passed — materiel teach yourself before someone to teach.
But if not, you should not meddle in things, nature doesn't understand.

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Recha 30.07.19

You not even born when I went to fog :-((( I'm 52 years driving passed that God give you so much to live. I'm on the potty sat for more than you're driving :-))) Not to be confused with extra light to horse radish headlights with tumanami.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Materiel read about the eye's sensitivity to the spectrum before you repeat like a monkey, another legends, fact you don't understand.
Then you can talk about the fog )
I'm in a fog I travel a lot, living outside the city and the lights and fog on all the machines led. Tell me more fairy tales, a connoisseur of fog)

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Recha 30.07.19

High Performance Lights

It's a silly tale.
I have a car with led PTF from the factory. Yellow smoke on the sidelines.

PS
The return of the yellow chips TWICE lower than the same white at the same current. Constructively.
While heating to operating temperatures nearly tripled.

You're just not driving in real fog, your LED vs yellow galogenok rest:-))) It's show-off with LED in the fog will be with them like a blind mole, a circle will be white and where the hell leave. All fools invent yellow tomance, and reliable brake, they are all ignoramuses and cowards and in the process, you are one clever and a revolutionary.

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Chealeks 30.07.19

Where is it? White diode is actually blue, to white "achieves" phosphor. Monochrome has always been brighter. Ridgid became a reason to put yellow in their beams.

Even have the interest to talk on this subject internally. Those engaged in General LED lighting why avoid car theme party

Probably because legally require a complicated procedure of certification.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Dim, if you actually do this and have a base, we can meet to discuss.
At once would write, and then there is mostly just the writers :)

About the stamps really looks like :) Stock halogen on 1250лм yellow still does not compare with 2000лм "blue".
Recently I was driving in the fog is bad, nothing will help if not to dissemble :)
I have X6 with led optics and is.

About point sources you are not quite right because these Pthah they don't scatter at all, and the thread in fact, is collected by the reflector and lens.

About the chips you are quite right, 10 watt chips 3.5x3.5 with small chip a lot, however, the die area I was looking at seems to be just 1x1.
In FireBall, they live well on the 2A, and if a little modify, then 2.5 and even 3 master.

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somebody 30.07.19

We can check? :) tonight I will be in Moscow (I live in the area). Lenses are on the base of my Hella 90 Premium 66240CLC lamps (4000K). LEDs nervously Smoking in aside. Compare Infinity QX-80, four-eyed Mercedes and BMW X6m with led optics. In the rain LED nichrome is not visible, unlike a normal xenon, which is almost gone in modern cars.

And this is not the stamps — I'm nine years animaltalk lights, and even a physicist-optician. The shorter the wavelength (closer to purple), the more refracted the light. In short, the higher the color temperature, the more the light is scattered, because in fact microcaps water, the same prism.

But greedy manufacturers LED headlamp deliberately increase the color temperature in the pursuit of efficiency, instead of make cluster spotlight. Here to mersedesov finally came, and they still had 4 headlights instead of two, and shines it on the regular level xenon. What is the problem to do 6-8 clusters and to finish them to a normal brightness?

The trouble all modern Svetikov in that square millimeter of semiconductor well, does not pass a current more than 2.5 A — it just burns. No problem to make "scrambled eggs" watt on 200, but for the middle and tomanek need a point source — only it is possible to focus and get a clear "cut-off". Therefore, the only way out of the cluster optics. Something similar has already started to make Nolden, their three clusters, each illuminates its area of road two sides, one shining in the center. But the price tag!

You have production capacity, why don't we join forces and not to make normal, affordable and quality LED lights?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

You repeat stuff that people write without thinking.
Yellow light a little more comfortable and familiar to the eye because closer to natural sunlight. That's all.
I drive a car with led head light a long time and no xenon not be compared with him. About halo, I generally keep quiet.
Please do not treat me the stamps, I have them all heard a hundred times.
Nothing CRI has to improve the efficiency of lighting in the car, svetodiodnyh headlights it is generally below 70. No offense but you hear the ringing but don't know where it is )

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somebody 30.07.19

The blue spectrum is much worse than is reflected in the direction of the light source (i.e. the driver's eyes), so despite the higher brightness of the "white" diodes illumination of the road with increasing color temperature deteriorates, especially in wet weather.

In theory, everything is beautiful, but in practice halogen work lamp Hella makes any led at far less cost.

From Cree is the technology of True White — there dosvechivat white spectrum red monochrome LEDs to increase color rendering index. Maybe one of the crystals to put yellow? For example, three white, one yellow for the alignment spectrum.

My interest is not idle: I never found a sane manufacturers svetodiodnyh buns, and what you are doing is really cool!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

"On a positive note".
No offense, but no time to paint separately, you could write a note about it.
Meantime take the same Datasheet on Cree XPE2 series and look out, there is more than obvious.

PS
What rigidity it puts me a little worried, because it is populism and divorce on the sucker.
It is obvious that 1000 lumens yellow will Shine in any case worse than the 3000 lumens of white.
Well, I have a car with full led optics, so I know whereof I speak.

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somebody 30.07.19

Where is it? White diode is actually blue, to white "achieves" phosphor. Monochrome has always been brighter. Ridgid became a reason to put yellow in their beams.

Even have the interest to talk on this subject internally. Those engaged in General LED lighting why avoid car theme party

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

It's a silly tale.
I have a car with led PTF from the factory. Yellow smoke on the sidelines.

PS
The return of the yellow chips TWICE lower than the same white at the same current. Constructively.
While heating to operating temperatures nearly tripled.

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somebody 30.07.19

And yellow these crystals come in? PTF for this spectrum will be better.

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Tipaleks 30.07.19

Wrote to the PM. Waiting for an answer)

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Serega-100 30.07.19

How to acquire such PTF ? What is the price ?

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BeaveSS 30.07.19

Me the price in PM-very interesting.

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somebody 30.07.19

Waiting))

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NARKOPATY 30.07.19

If you can price the finished solution. Ready to buy. Like Morimoto, but now your option to buy.

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o1eja 30.07.19

On Ford M5 would be such. Only in the middle...

As well as H7 and H15 to replace the headlights... but there is a problem that the rear edge of the lights very close to the wall. Bulge should not do :(

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

90mm, while limited editions, separately, will be classified with the characteristics and prices will go to the productive.

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StealthINC 30.07.19

They are 10 inches in diameter? How much are they?

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Bubligum121 30.07.19

Hi Earrings.Look not out yet in the sale of these PTF?)

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yOR0 30.07.19

I will write again a year later. Sergey when ? When?

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Plus far have at least blink and the DRL. Although DRL rather envelope, but you can do far 30% as DRL

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tyomalm 30.07.19

"Let me remind you that the photo is ONLY ONE PTF."
That's what I missed.
It turns out in 2 times brighter. Good result.

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Features written, compare.
Not very clear what the question is.

Or need help to compare 9 watt and 18?)

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tyomalm 30.07.19

And if to compare with led PTF from Lexus?
www.drive2.ru/l/4825217/
The price of these 9 thousand, if I can do cheaper or brighter?

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iazyk 30.07.19

Sergey and Hello!
What will please, when it will be possible to get a long-awaited kits for PTF?

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Demian71 30.07.19

Great!

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galeon285 30.07.19

Good night! Also interested in how the process is moving, just shut Off this company and want to put fog with DRL.

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numones 30.07.19

Persuaded) it is necessary to order v5 for experiments

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

You add "I think" in your comments.
In the nearby posts have a photo with the imager, it is even such to the couch experts like you, it will be clear.

Well, 2100 lumens in a narrow beam PTF is more than enough. Especially considering that the factory fog led provide at least 1000 lumens.

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numones 30.07.19

in the manual all the parameters given to the transition temperature of 85 degrees. Even if the operation of a single diode is on the average of the current 75% of maximum — this is 2250 mA, anyway the driver is weak)

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Seriously? You read the Datasheet again. And then calculate the transition temperature at 3A and derating flow.
And then you hear the sound of...

You've already written about his discovery in koito, OSRAM, etc., and then they are fools, all in the 75% of current chase. But often lower.

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numones 30.07.19

I'm about the same) you load the driver on high, the diode can not get even basic features

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Well, that's why at the maximum current in the machine one chips and not to drive.

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numones 30.07.19

Oh well) sometimes it is better to be a brake than a man without brakes))

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Your car the maximum speed of 250 km / h.
And your average speed is 30-40кмч.

It turns out you brake... :)

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numones 30.07.19

Looked Datasheet on the XP-L, one diode in the hot mode with up to 3000mA consumes, it turns out your 2A driver very weak)

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Shef394 30.07.19

Good day, Sergei.
Lights were purchased a year ago, disassembled and waiting. And I'm waiting.
When you can buy the Board for modification?

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Timon-83 30.07.19

Welcome! In the sale will be such a PTF? Bought-have for ASX happy... Tormented with the choice of DRL, China does not want to... here's a thought or PTF or a kit in turn signals.

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rosta515151 30.07.19

Sergey Hello. PTF 90mm when you can buy or circuit Board with your alterations. Thank you

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ghDmitry 30.07.19

Sergey, good day
went out with all the fireballs?

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Usui 30.07.19

Thank you will follow, just as soon plan to buy a bumper with tumanami about the right size :)

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

Yes, but you need to swing and to start production of new card and driver...

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Usui 30.07.19

Say the project is still alive? Very interesting good light in tomance, native catastrophically lacking

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SergeySait 30.07.19

Got it, thanks!

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

good day, while they are not, later will be ad

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SergeySait 30.07.19

Hello!
Tell me how much it would cost to purchase such modernizirovannyi (modified) PTF?!

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Forser 30.07.19

Looking forward to the massive sales :) And how many they approximately will cost? Well, at least plus or minus.

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SergeySait 30.07.19

The sale hasn't started yet?!

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B862HX35 30.07.19

as with the sale?

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igorek-3 30.07.19

The project is still in force or has faded?Is it possible to buy such PTF

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LISSAlisa 30.07.19

and you can credit aliske? I understand you have the mode of low beam and fog?

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7samurai 30.07.19

i.e. without dissipation? I just don't see the problem of movement in the fog with the main light, standard tomance always lose my glasses, so was thinking about the solution to this problem by installing lisovani, they are more streamlined in form, should be less disposed

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

The fact that he's got a beam like the head light, not as PTF.

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7samurai 30.07.19

Hello! What's wrong with linkowanie xenon in PTF? Now it is ready to sell the modules to install...

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High Performance Lights 30.07.19

What is it?

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vold72 30.07.19

Here is the finished boards, if someone is too lazy to remake www.drive2.ru/o/b/483965986957951169/