Almost burned the winch or how to do.
Hello!
Long time did not write. Ay ay ay. You need to handle.
Somehow a month and a half ago, at night, on the ride to the local monastery, Perm ''White mountain'' (this will unsubscribe in another post), in the last difficult place in газ69 (went in 2 cars, Niva + GAZ 69 on the 35x wheels), ran out the winch. There are certainly normal asphalt road, but it's not for us. :)
Attempts to prolong the GAZ 69 first, forward, slide, field (could not), then again the field, only ago, resulted in a total unit thermal overload solenoid ( plastic case started to sail, touched the hand can not tolerate) and dragging the field across the Creek, to the rescue, the winch is no longer involved. And газ69 left to repair the winch and dig out + to wait for help.
On arrival home it was found the following specialnosti in the external examination:
Some relatives of the wires would just melt away overload (lasts about a year). Do not order, there must be a reason before then.
By the way the wire from the battery, not so long ago put in return of the native, кг35, was not injured.
Parse the block itself. Inside, everything is intact:
By the way, with the last bulkhead of the winch it took only a couple of easy rides and local competition.
At the opening of the motor was a bit surprised, since last opening it was dry, + cleaned and oiled the gearbox and plastic o-rings on the drum was alive. So here is a picture:
Glug glug glug.
Dismantle the housing:
Get the rotor:
Hmm
The coil is also bad
Brushes are not moving, some just stuck to an extreme position:
Next, dismantle the gearbox, there is a more familiar picture:
Grease castrol universal joint — turned into condensed milk.
Any critical damage was found and the course of action now was clear - to clean, assemble, replace the wires.
And everything seems to be simple.
But there Fig. At the end of the Assembly while tightening the bolts of the windings in the housing, broke the last bolt. Pulling gently, two keys (inside + outside). Damn.
Looking for the same bolt, the right material. And here is a moment of laughter — the bolt was found, but he was from...the toilet. xDxDxD
More precisely, from the set fixing the toilet, dunno how many years already waiting in the wings...
Looked suitable. Well, from the toilet, then the toilet. xD
Sawing
There is a downside - the height of the bolt head is smaller, consequently the contact will stick out:
But there was no choice as the other bolts. Means are cooking like this.
The result:
Also was replaced 3 wires from the block to the winch (except the negative — still alive native). On кг50.
Crimped terminals 8*50, and filed a grinder where to attach on the unit, as it was too wide. ''Caps'' terminal wires were manufactured from a hose — old, from family of wires, there just would not climb. If climbed, it is only the cost of his own life...
Nuts on the block, due to the depressing view of old were replaced with new, the Russian, the same material, but with a slightly larger contact area:
A couple of old nuts on top of the finger glove.
It was very interesting, will it work now the winch, so he gathered everything together, went to the Parking lot (garage I don't have) and hooked it all night, by the light of a torch.
And Hooray, everything is spinning, sparks flying, no scary sounds. :)
PS. As I understand it, the reason for this amount of dirt is not only the conquest of streams and flying on dirty puddles, but the plastic ''o'' rings, oil seals instead.
And in the end the question — has anyone changed the rings on the seals?
I would appreciate a repost.
(Pictures were made for drive2 + processing).
Well, at the end of the post, as usual, beautiful photo. Namely, the purpose of the trip itself.
White mountain. The morning fog. No one else around.
AlexBeard
Need is plastic ''o' rings'', to find the seals to size and fit them there. Then water and dirt will be much less.
There is another way for perverts to apply pressure to the inside of the winch is fed into the breather tube to not let the water when for example in the swamp stuck. :)
It's not the o-rings that the bearings of the drum, they are in fact, the entire burden falls.
All the breather tubes are displayed in any of the barrels, sometimes homemade. When in the future there is an opportunity to stick somewhere in the swamp or the river there serves little pressure compressors and all.
It seems to be something like that
Yes, it's a brilliant solution! Overpressure defended military equipment against the penetration of chemical weapons and radiation) Just a question where it to take :)
Need is plastic ''o' rings'', to find the seals to size and fit them there. Then water and dirt will be much less.
There is another way for perverts to apply pressure to the inside of the winch is fed into the breather tube to not let the water when for example in the swamp stuck. :)
just wanted to ask — how did so much dirt in the hull? but the last photo is cut off :D the insides it would be good to treat with waterproof spray against short circuits. and to think outside of something like hermetic Boxing can't?
All fixed ''questionable'' places (bolts, caps, etc.) were oiled during the first bulkhead. But the movable space of the drum sealers to seal will not work. Need to redo a seal on each side. I think to implement in the spring...
and sealant go ? I before installation dismantled the entire oiled new smazochno and walked with sealant at the seams :) someone said that you should never do that... and someone does :) but the popular opinion seems normal until all :)
ky777
I know a way that the water is not going to fill all epoksidnoj)))))
But seriously it without the seals you not do...
and the place is electric. podmocani in my opinion you need to fill in some thread glue (but so that it was possible to tear off).
The silicone taxis))
I think spring is here we need to try to pick up the seals. On the Internet I found information about such a remake, but with a more expensive and renowned winches. This is considered less of cheap factory goods with the name, and probably because of this, at the expense of the seals in it who does not particularly bother. Although probably did already, but in the Internet this information is not all spread.
I know a way that the water is not going to fill all epoksidnoj)))))
But seriously it without the seals you not do...
and the place is electric. podmocani in my opinion you need to fill in some thread glue (but so that it was possible to tear off).
Thanks for the advice!
While displayed only two breather — rear axle & transfer case. And how will all the hoses removed in 1 box under the hood, then it will be possible to borrow proven ideas + feeding there is not much pressure the pump before you visit rivers or rides in the swamp. + on the winch, reading, also do such a thing.
I, in test order to prevent the water in such devices, filed there the compressed air. Let the bubbles in the water, but the inside will be dry. It's easier than to maintain the integrity
Lived for a year, then just could not stand the load + seems to have a bit of oxidized copper and the contact became worse. Now all positive wires 50, and then minus 50 will replace probably.
Native wires in the trash immediately. It is necessary to put normal wires for 35 squares with well-crimped ferrules.
AlexBeard
But, it is not ''tape FUM'' case? For threaded plumbing connections? Tap at home to tape like doing. There is like plastic, is as the cord.
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Understand, then look into the guests into the store. Something's always in need of these auto parts...
But, it is not ''tape FUM'' case? For threaded plumbing connections? Tap at home to tape like doing. There is like plastic, is as the cord.
In the place where the plastic ring getting hard to adhere to the moving surface of the drum, the gap is still not so big to put in the cord, even if it is quite thin.
And how many have not read, have not seen the use of such a lubricant for the winch. :)
Maybe we can put it near the ring outside. If it is not wound (or spit then grind), it will help a little bit. Then ask the store a gasket to see visually.
Try to find seals in shops MAZ-KAMAZ.
In particular - brake repair kits brake repair kits or starters.
There are bands of similar diameter.
you guys hunted. I have compe brake over a couple of years ago. there quadramed and brake spring. found in Moscow and immediately brush took. well, its because of the brushes on the motor to get
Rus59Wolf
good. what is a Swan? and what is local competition?
Again about a Swan. On `Fox hunting` two brushes cracked one stuck. Rode the remaining one brush overheated motor set fire to the rotor a bit overheated unit.
Rus59Wolf
that is all that where we do not go. nothing on the three roads went. in General, soon fake
The latest from loac — also had a place to get stuck.
video seen. we on the second day really sucked badly — I didn't know where to go on the pillars. 50 minutes to go we were in YUS'va and began to poke in ALL ZAGADKI from usvi. minutes somewhere for 10 only turned on the gas-route well and expected delay.
Well, for most I do not count trips to the nearby forest for mushrooms or in puddles. For me ''ride'' associated with the far and beautiful (Parma), or with events or with ''went to Epen I, not far from here :)''. And the rest is as it is not became interesting.
About three roads agree — PTS. liked have not been in those places before. But we three road tried to minimize the number of long paths, it's one of the goals of the competition, so sometimes it was fun. :)
Where was the exit of hastrasse on the pillars, we have ended the time allotted on the second day. So we started to use topcapital: ''five More minutes...Two...One!'' Flew with fontanchiki and so on, but at the finish machine stroila.
Winch never used.
Video from the event is also well received on YouTube.
lived — the Cup of Perm Krai on tropolitaine it's the festival of the lost grazioso this ride)))))
we have this season is poor — only PSG and three roads. three roads is generally light. the ambush spot was there on the exit of hastrasse the path to the posts uspenskim. though we have the standard traditionally
and about getting stuck — I three roads with all its licavoli liked more than all zastrevali
Fake? This is also some travel planned?
About three roads are not as you are going to write a report. Was a very beautiful ride/competition. A lot of beautiful places, and there's no time...
that is all that where we do not go. nothing on the three roads went. in General, soon fake
Hi!
Swan t-max 6500. Failed first time and it was due to an oversight in the service — my fault. And the fields missing. But as usual they want and so on...
The first competition of the gps to Orient. ''Night XS''. The second traditional gps Orient. from PVK ''White night''.
Soon (this Sunday) will be ''Trulli'' (ring of the two su) from the ICR.
compressor difficult to install a small pressure, the camera gives a little something around the 0.25-0.5.compressor can and glands to davanat out.good luck
About the camera not heard. Have heard that the compressor in a common line pumped a little. But the camera is faster and more convenient. Thanks, will take note!
as a Council, and to the development of the solution of the problem(regarding air flow).long ago I had a UAZ loaf, that would be the bridges and razdatki did not get the water connected all the breather tubes into one common line rubber hoses with one end of the hose, before jumping the water was attached to the end hose is pre-pressurized chamber(pressure small but redundant)worked on hurrah.
kkonti
Tell me what it is brewed copper?
Great to cook semi-automatic. Do not just weld even thin wires from the windings of the generator!
AlexBeard
Since the welding is not particularly understand, and don't trust myself to cook anything except a few pieces of iron together, took the whole thing the welder. From what I saw — he got the other electrode (not one that when we cooked the iron), and picked up once. No more, the coil will burn it there.
As long as it works.
Argon?
Since the welding is not particularly understand, and don't trust myself to cook anything except a few pieces of iron together, took the whole thing the welder. From what I saw — he got the other electrode (not one that when we cooked the iron), and picked up once. No more, the coil will burn it there.
As long as it works.
The spring will push the winch into the cabin, and that bothered the rings-seals...
First there were doubts about this repair, but it's been a few rides, the bolt alive. Only here the winch was again on fire...
Thank you! Niwasi really were there:) Left the winch, but to the place crawled.
Wanted to do a report on that trip, but there is no material — there was no time to snap pictures, but sorry.
Dobrij Den, moz ne v temu, no Hram ocen krasivij, priam skazocnij, NIVASIK nu a kak iz Ada virvalsia. :))) Krasota.
He moved there in the spring, but live he's not getting any easier.
Not so long ago again singed winch — ended brushes in competitions, the part stuck part just lobola into two parts. In the end, there is one brush on it and rode till the varnish on the rotor was not melted, and a block of solenoids overheated. КГ70 couldn't touch.
Was assembled winch with a new brush Assembly — the rotor and the stator alive. The unit will open today.