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Three are not childish, or ALILUYAA! REPORTED! =) - Toyota Caldina, 2.0 L, 1997

In general, I don't even know where to start. Troubles, they usually do not come to us right away, they wait, look closely, and at the most inopportune moment they come out of the shadows, like some kind of fucking phantomas and catch us by surprise.

It all started 4 days ago. For no apparent reason, the car began to "troit", the engine began to push, vibration went through the body, especially noticeable when you are standing at a traffic light, and the automatic transmission selector is in position D (although this vibration is also on neutral and at the rear and in the parking lot not sickly). Moreover, it seems that the car is about to stall, but nooo, the engine continued to twitch, groan but (!) Work. The dynamics of overclocking also disappeared completely. From a speed of 60 km / h, the car is sooooo slowly going up, and up to 60 is also not so hot.
RPM - 650, jump +/- 50. Jump quite smoothly.

I would also like to note that before all this happened, nothing was done with the car, it did not stand at the service, so it is useless to blame that something was wrong there ...

What was done:
1) The very first decision was this: CHANGE PETROL! The quality of our gasoline is poor so the attempt is not torture. The result is zero.

2) I drove to the company store, bought original Denso K20TR11 candles . I changed the candles, the old ones (they covered about 16,000 km) were not in their best shape, tomorrow I will attach a photo. BUT! No results.

3) The throttle body was disassembled and cleaned by CARB-Cleaner. How many were thereshit, words cannot convey. They cleaned, collected, pogazat, froze like dogs, BUT! Nothing has changed.

4) I went (asked for =) to Soul - Ivan, his father had a Toyota Ipsum with similar spark plug wires. Changed wires =) - this is a different story www.drive2.ru/cars/peugeo..rnal/4062246863888260191/ , BUT! again without results.

It would be possible to sin on the distributor, on its cover, on the slider, but these parts are simply NOT in my engine. The fact is that since 1997, distributors have not been installed on the 3S-FE. There are 2 coils and, as I understand it, everything is controlled by a computer.
Of course, you can sin on the engine mountings, BUT, there would be only vibration, and in fact the whole dynamics disappeared completely ...

Question for connoisseurs:
What else should you pay attention to? The DRIVE2.RU database is huge, maybe someone faced a similar problem.
Tomorrow I will go to the service in any case, but you yourself know how they are doing it now, they can weave anything they want ... Moreover, there is no obvious solution to this problem, everything looks in order, some options are excluded (after all, there can be weight).

zs I will definitely supplement the topic as information becomes available ...
Thank you for reading =)

UPDATED
I went to the service, checked everything, measured the performance, everything is normal. There are suspicions of a 4 cylinder. And if it is more accurate, then for 4 nozzles. When pulling it out, the engine does not react in any way ... The question is still open ...

IN SEARCH OF THE 4th NOZZLE =

NOZZLE WITH BURNED POPOL FOUND. WHILE USED since there is no guarantee that it is she who does not allow the 4th cylinder to live in peace.
In theory, if nothing changes tomorrow, then we will know for sure ...

So, this is hopefully the last update of this post. In general, I stopped by the minder today, took off my nozzle, put the one that I brought, and, lo and behold. The car came to life. Vibration is over! When they put it back together, it turned out that the rubber ring (gasket) on the nozzle I bought was very stretched, as a result of which the engine began to scatter benzo outward. They unrolled everything again, changed the ring from the old nozzle, tightened the gas cable, put everything in place.
VERDICT: the vibration disappeared, the engine began to respond more clearly to pressing the gas pedal, the acceleration dynamics returned to their native rightful place =)
In the near future I will run in and observe the behavior of the car ...

zs Thanks to Stas, the minder, for making the correct diagnosis so quickly and curing him just as quickly.

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

the price of one in the original is 50 dollars.

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Soul 18.12.20

As an option, the coils themselves can also be machined! :)

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

The filter was checked, everything is normal, it is dirty, but not crumbled =) And while the BDZ was being cleaned, they started up without a filter, and the same thing happened.

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crude 18.12.20

I’m not a doctor, but since the assumption is to check the intake, can the filter crumble and clog the intake?

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

Wan what exactly =) We checked, everything sparks everything as it should be.

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Soul 18.12.20

exactly?

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

Checked.

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Soul 18.12.20

Duck you check whether they work or not.
After all, the fact that you disconnected the nozzle does not mean anything.
If there is no spark, it will not show anything!

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

With coils, everything is narmul. I have 2 of them. The first - 1.4 cylinders, the second - 2.3 cylinders.

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wolfshtein 18.12.20

And how did things stand with the spark? On a Subaru, I did not lose a spark on the coil, and the coil is one for 4 candles, and now there was no spark from one connector. I changed the coil.

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yulia777 18.12.20

We had the same garbage on our crown - it cracked like a victim! ((((It turned out that one valve burnt out!

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HAUSS 18.12.20

hmm! well what can I say got off with a slight fright!))

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

IMHO you just need to contact a good minder. =)

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dimach78 18.12.20

Hey. And I have such a hassle. There was a strong vibration changed pillows. It seems to have passed. Refueled at the gas station and suddenly began to troit. The engine icon started to burn, then it twitched, then you let the gas push through and goes fine and the light bulb stops burning. Here I am standing in front of the task, check the felts or computer diagnostics for errors.

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Nik-h 18.12.20

Look at the throttle valve, it is possible to clean it over (suffocates, but it is unlikely) ... first of all, the armor wires and candles are 100% for replacement and we need to change everything together)) Our engines were the same, there was a similar garbage) Try to do self-diagnostics, maybe the machine itself will tell you that not so with her. And there is a good resource drom.ru try to contact there)) well, in general, I could advise.

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r0m1r3z 18.12.20

oh, I’m too late, your bottom comment noticed, I reread it myself, I thought we could not write that we decided everything was fine =)

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Nik-h 18.12.20

Oyyy even did not look that the problem was solved)))))