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The buttons adapter multifunction МПВ4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BS

In connection with the replacement of SGU alternative from Pioneer has an idea for a new small project. Need to adapt multifunction buttons with minimal interference, maximum performance retaining the factory remotes.

A bearded version of perepiski resistors will not fit here because:
— some important control function, namely the transition between folders, work with the Hands Free, requires 3-wire stereo Jack (tip, ring, sleeve). In regular version only has 2.
— you need to use the maximum number of functions for a limited number of buttons. For example, absent on the units button is very important to me the function of the mute/mute – att/mute, etc.

Below are screenshots of the insides of the panels multifunction МПВ4 (Mitsubishi Pajero Wagon 4).
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size
This can be schematically represented as:
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BS
The concept of following. To call functions I used the "short" and "long" pressing the buttons (on the screen S (short) — short, L (long), long). Long I will be 1.5 seconds. Resistance table for Pioneer is shown below in General scheme. Pay attention on feature for Hands Free. For some reason they are missing everywhere.
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size

So, my device is microcontroller ATMega8 clocked by an external crystal 8 MHz. Pressed buttons on remote controls is determined through the ADC. After transformation we find out what function is in line with our depression. In the end, the insights of MK depending on the desired functions are transferred from the inputs in high impedance Z-state outputs low logical level. In other words connect the desired resistor to the ground.
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size
The finished device:
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size
It was very convenient. Function mute (att/mute) implemented through a "long" press "volume down". "Next/previous track" is performed by short pressing and the movement of the folders which lacked, — "long".
The buttons adapter multifunction 4 for Pioneer AVH-X4700BSFull size
The project is executed in CVAVR, a printed circuit Board in DipTrace. The link for download.
Improvements and code optimization of the PCB are welcome.

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ultra-lammer 05.08.19

Ggggg ))))

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

ATP)

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Slavik-2008 05.08.19

Krasava!

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

)))

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ultra-lammer 05.08.19

Krasaucheg... )))))

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desantura2008 05.08.19

overbrake

Damn, all freebie with buttons and resistors :)
On my Fabia in the MCU multifunction steering wheel stuffed and the K-Line bus system, not so easy to tunnel.
And all turned out fine.

It's a VAG, so it is not so simple there. And there mitsik ass through the turn of a key

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Yuriy-San 05.08.19

vtl1349

The tape recorder CAN surely going on Arduino with Casilda adapter to make.

can advise both from Nissan to get with the adapter MCP2515 +of Duin that broadcast button steering, I understand that the Protocol J1850, but the sketch itself can not write and not ready for this Protocol, all 7 teams.

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overbrake 05.08.19

I'm actually doing it right now. Not on the Arduino, and STM32 :)

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vtl1349 05.08.19

overbrake

Damn, all freebie with buttons and resistors :)
On my Fabia in the MCU multifunction steering wheel stuffed and the K-Line bus system, not so easy to tunnel.
And all turned out fine.

The tape recorder CAN surely going on Arduino with Casilda adapter to make.

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overbrake 05.08.19

Reversal did not have with me then a friend of mine shared Protocol of exchange on the LIN bus, and for that stereo came a message set CAN bus from the Golf MK V, which I managed to dig up on the profile forum. Now ready prototype on a STM32F105, still can not reach the hands to make the finished device.

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dmitryshagin 05.08.19

overbrake

For the pre-FL Fabia technically impossible to put a multifunction steering wheel. I'm trying to fix it :) In my case no adaptation will not only crutches and reverse-engineering.

How's it going? I'm on the Passat 5-m traversal Protocol the helm, wonder what's on the Fabia )

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Sema-qq 05.08.19

What words are difficult for me))))

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overbrake 05.08.19

For the pre-FL Fabia technically impossible to put a multifunction steering wheel. I'm trying to fix it :) In my case no adaptation will not only crutches and reverse-engineering.

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Sema-qq 05.08.19

How does a CAN/lin-bus or K-Line to adapt the buttons?

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overbrake 05.08.19

Damn, now the documentation looked really LIN. And in my head somehow that stuck K-line. It is necessary to finish Smoking engine being half-asleep :)

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Z1vert 05.08.19

overbrake

Damn, all freebie with buttons and resistors :)
On my Fabia in the MCU multifunction steering wheel stuffed and the K-Line bus system, not so easy to tunnel.
And all turned out fine.

there LIN bus.

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ultra-lammer 05.08.19

clear

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Sergi124 05.08.19

ultra-lammer

K-line or can? ;)

K-line, VAG all... Kan then grounded.

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overbrake 05.08.19

With the Board of the multifunction buttons is precisely the K-Line. At least one controller that there is CAN can not.

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ultra-lammer 05.08.19

overbrake

Damn, all freebie with buttons and resistors :)
On my Fabia in the MCU multifunction steering wheel stuffed and the K-Line bus system, not so easy to tunnel.
And all turned out fine.

K-line or can? ;)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Happen )

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overbrake 05.08.19

Damn, all freebie with buttons and resistors :)
On my Fabia in the MCU multifunction steering wheel stuffed and the K-Line bus system, not so easy to tunnel.
And all turned out fine.

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Thank you!

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CAMOKAT-BETEPAHA 05.08.19

Well done!

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Thank you

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Zeliman 05.08.19

Respect!

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

I think, Yes. Transfer Protocol via a W/R of all the pioneers of the same

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Andrey-Shark 05.08.19

Awesome I have a avic hd3bt and I couldn't use the phone buttons. Fit your solution for my radio?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

probably)

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sam2004 05.08.19

cool, but on other cars you can do that?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Thank you

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Kirill-tzk 05.08.19

cool signature

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Kirill-tzk 05.08.19

Ukraine, as usual taxis

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wlad0320 05.08.19

transcripts you beat him.

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holobuda 05.08.19

Krasavella

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ZAGR 05.08.19

AkinoriNakanishi

Yes. A short circuit ring on the ground.

one more question...
I understand correctly, if directly on the connector of the radio to serve the following combinations of resistance + ring, will be performed by the radio the following command:
1 kω + ring > call phonebook
1 kω + ring + LONG PRESS > menu Bluetooth
3 kω + ring + > answer the incoming call
3 kω + ring + LONG PRESS > answer the incoming call
5,6 kω + ring + > ignore incoming call
5,6 kω + ring + LONG PRESS > call hold

I'm just not quite sure I understand correctly, so just in case I want to clarify, whether so it?

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ZAGR 05.08.19

AkinoriNakanishi

Yes. A short circuit ring on the ground.

Sorrri! I missed the circuit!
Slepenky)))

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ZAGR 05.08.19

Is the use of a third contact on the plug Jack?
Is there any schematic somewhere for clarity?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Yes. A short circuit ring on the ground.

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ZAGR 05.08.19

commands with the phone work fine?
what does "+ ring"?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

In fact — Yes

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ThomasMoose 05.08.19

yesterday I bought a ready-made adapter mitsibishi-alpine in the company of trioma trioma.ru/products/kry/kry.shtml
it's the same thing in essence, or something different?

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Eycka 05.08.19

All right. I imagine the pioneer also thought about the steering column. Offer an adapter for the 4500. Took the joystick and cut it and resistance I bought for 25 rubles, the most expensive Jack 3.5 was 35 RUB Soldered, though not the first time but it worked. My negative is that when I bought my GU it had a new joystick to buy, but actually 1200 rubles, not so expensive)))

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IgrB 05.08.19

always appreciate your mind!and the people with him"!!

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Sema-qq 05.08.19

olezka777

good evening
and really to make the adapter on the multi steering wheel BMW E38 / Alpine?

Alpine like how clever he defines the buttons and it works without intervention.

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Good evening. With Alpine had Affairs

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olezka777 05.08.19

good evening
and really to make the adapter on the multi steering wheel BMW E38 / Alpine?

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UdavKaa 05.08.19

Brain!

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meloman61 05.08.19

I will tell you, as a lawyer, not in every case a similar trick can do))))

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Dimka52 05.08.19

because you never know in these matters, I Express delight)

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LightOverNight 05.08.19

Thank you!

Function handsfree all differences and lack of connections. I, too, suffered, but did( altered ready-made adapter).

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IvanDmitrievi4 05.08.19

Great!)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

From the ignition circuit through the stabilizer 78l05.
1206

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alex862 05.08.19

and where did you get 5 volts to power the MC?
and what is the size of rezyukah?

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Crekernk 05.08.19

Transcripts!

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Wewelsburg 05.08.19

— some important control function, namely the transition between folders, work with Hands Free,
Work with directories and branching is precisely the second wire steering (shift) or simulation buttons 5 and 6 on the radio.
Hands-free is team selection ( select) on the radio. Press up to raise the following to put. Why do mega? If everything can be done on simple resistive set

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

it is possible, but the project is not on the durin is done

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Anti78 05.08.19

you can link to the sketch?

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VictorZh 05.08.19

BGG.)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

To not much to write ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0...E%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

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Sergey-3d 05.08.19

"high impedance Z-state"
You can clarify is what ? what throws on LOW clear and simple as as ? HIGH ? it's on the TIP go. Or no effect, as the resistors are only processed minus ?

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zeka2008 05.08.19

Hats off

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Didn't find mention of this feature...

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Dazdranargon 05.08.19

Cool sold! I think something similar to stir up, but was stuck on some kind of no-brainer — can't find the value of resistance to "Pause". And with ring tried, but the result is zero :( If suddenly know, could you tell?

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AndreyK0 05.08.19

Simple interest. Habit — it's tough. Not on your Nelly didn't want to mess with. I apologize if I seem a Troll. The main implementation, and the road to it at everyone.

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

I have a habit to put because many devices are transmitting data which require non-standard frequencies...
PS. Why this conversation, if you so well know the answers to all the questions?)))

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AndreyK0 05.08.19

Thought so too. Never failed the internal generator. Especially for simple crafts.

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Will work. There is a perception that the internal quartz is not stable.

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AndreyK0 05.08.19

Question — from the internal rc oscillator with default megahertz will not work? Why the extra detail?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Me too!

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somebody 05.08.19

I respect competent people!

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BREAKZ 05.08.19

Damn...lol...I would kind of cost.only for VW

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light55 05.08.19

Why resistive DAC? Not easier the PWM and rc a chain?

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FlipWho 05.08.19

Pokazyvaetsya? Depends on how much your time worth)

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megalamer 05.08.19

Work certainly commands respect, but how much time it took is another question. There are ready solutions, for example here — www.intro-incar.ru/proche...pter-rulevogo-upravleniya I have at least 3 such device set (in a/m with resistive buttons and GU Pioneer), nothing works, only the price pokazyvaetsya.

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Yes

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DimkA5555 05.08.19

It's the same for any pioneer goes as I understand it where is the entrance to the buttons?

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pine 05.08.19

Sorry :) that is the only point, which I don't want to throw the remote on the Pioneer and keep it on the simulator keystrokes USB HID keyboard for Android Car PC :)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Honestly not looking)

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pine 05.08.19

Class. Just in case the original thread, where three years ago kicked off the discussion of resistor values for Pioneer jvde.net/node/7
There sometimes emerge interesting details about different models of Pioneers.
Well, the usual question of denomination for Play/Pause and failed to find?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Locate the "ready" with my functionality)

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g00d77 05.08.19

And those that are ready are sold does not fit?
Or is it a matter of principle was to make this device? :)

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pine 05.08.19

ut2k5

Yes, I tried the mcp, but it had to finish, quartz to solder, I have all the design is not satisfied, the Duin+MTSP+executata, a sandwich takes a lot of place, want of compactness, but it will do You little sawed to fit your case, my input is not resistive, but I will take from this Kahn adapter (www.drive2.ru/l/6750631/) on his outputs, you can program signals, including buttons, craftsmen of Moscow doing now from Kaluga guy, I've bought and enjoyed

do not need to solder. quite correct library to take, with the support 8MHz, which is the Chinese mold

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ut2k5 05.08.19

Yes, really, low for me, thanks,
since it is impossible for night work is harmful

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

1) for the stability of MK
2) from the z-state have to be low

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ut2k5 05.08.19

sorry, a few questions:
1) why the body of the quartz to the earth sealed?
2) when I translate from z-state to high resistance, not what is expected, the feeling between the ground and leg still have their own internal resistance, as You struggled with this?
use a mega328, but I don't think they have there a big difference...

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Yes, I read, well done guys.
And about compactness is also ready to argue) the size of the device is no bigger than this adapter

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ut2k5 05.08.19

Yes, I tried the mcp, but it had to finish, quartz to solder, I have all the design is not satisfied, the Duin+MTSP+executata, a sandwich takes a lot of place, want of compactness, but it will do You little sawed to fit your case, my input is not resistive, but I will take from this Kahn adapter (www.drive2.ru/l/6750631/) on his outputs, you can program signals, including buttons, craftsmen of Moscow doing now from Kaluga guy, I've bought and enjoyed

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Yeah, good luck. By the way, durin perfectly and just with Kahn works) I have a little project DRL-managed Kanu devices. The only negative is again the budget, mega328 and a bunch mcp2551-mcp2515

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ut2k5 05.08.19

I want the whole thing on Kang bus to hang of your car, now learn arm, but still slowly leaking
but the office of the recorder, to reduce the used legs (and as an option to use less expensive attiny23) want to implement on a digital potentiometer, like here( only without doini):

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Use on health)

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ut2k5 05.08.19

everything was looking like in pioneer tie hands free, and then such a gift, thank You, the author)))))
well, about the source, do not say anything, God grant You health, my good man!
going to implement... almost finished, I will unsubscribe

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Jekman-TM 05.08.19

Me too.

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somebody 05.08.19

in zakladki

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pine 05.08.19

Geeraa

Ltd. awesome! this look like something you can configure on Windows? or on Android? just do carpc in the car and I would like the button to use. if th to produce will be able to order this?

with Windows and Android here github.com/p1ne/wheel-adapter/

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Windows and Android is another story.

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Geeraa 05.08.19

Ltd. awesome! this look like something you can configure on Windows? or on Android? just do carpc in the car and I would like the button to use. if th to produce will be able to order this?

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Baz-S 05.08.19

magnitola good...

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Serik81 05.08.19

Bambeano!
Great deal, gorgeous post, the quality of performance at altitude!

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valiullin-amir 05.08.19

something similar did your article not seen, not thought to make long press for Henri

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sanekskr 05.08.19

cool

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Peony and Sony

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Serg00727 05.08.19

Diagram for Pioneer or can be used with other GU (Sony, Kenwood, Alpine, etc.).

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eclipse-3gs 05.08.19

Cool mind, I do not rummage in electrical engineering...=(

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dfyzcorp 05.08.19

There are still more megamozg

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ANDI711 05.08.19

I bought sexmo 2P. I can't do that.

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Phantom-258G 05.08.19

Useful device.
Respect

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Bagz957 05.08.19

Well done at the time was looking for the adapter had to pay 1900 and then all their hands-great!

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desantura2008 05.08.19

Cool idea! Well done! There are also turnkey solutions that is to say the chip in the chip for a specific car

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john-riba 05.08.19

Great idea, however in many cars (in French) Mut is done by pressing simultaneously "+" and "-" volume. Very convenient.

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BADBOY028 05.08.19

Gorgeous!

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voronin76rus 05.08.19

I like arduinna fouled for a mate,
5 months flight normal

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bezzz48 05.08.19

interestingly your stray will fit 80 peony, multifunction no

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tolikbret 05.08.19

Good day, tell me on the fuses, what to set the settings for MC ?

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Johnny35007 05.08.19

Hats off;)

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misharogov1 05.08.19

Beau)) and the cost here in my modify nowhere)

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Alec01 05.08.19

Lucky)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Alec01

Let's hope the work done is not in vain)) . Everything is really neat and transcripts came out

Checked the settings...so I don't have)

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Well, this is not the first machine and the pion, have experience) Before this was given only to Chinese. Honor and praise to the original pioneer if they finally introduced this adaptation, and deliver us from crap with a soldering cuts and adapters.
Respect to you, the first time I heard about this!

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Alec01 05.08.19

Let's hope the work done is not in vain)) . Everything is really neat and transcripts came out

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

Interesting) Look...if it were, I would not a city that shit)

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Alec01 05.08.19

www.drive2.ru/l/493140861735928175/
If this head of course is a function

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Amp3r 05.08.19

I have to do something like that. But I will use arduino nano + digital potentiometer.

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adnrey23 05.08.19

Handsome! Had also been thinking about this.

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GoldDragon1988 05.08.19

The control of the cruise control is here to push?

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AkinoriNakanishi 05.08.19

there

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schuraco 05.08.19

R6 is kind of not there.