Installing PTF lens on FF3

Well is clear.

Not ))) no One argues. Discuss everything peacefully =)
Photo really you might think that PTF beating too bullied. Photo unsuccessful.
Physics is really very simple and straightforward. First report specifically conventionally, the angles of incidence of the STG drew near and PTF.

When left on a flat road, you could see the pavement at first a line of light from the PTF, then a line of light from the middle. STG from PTF falls much earlier in the middle.
At the same time, I agree that it could do a little lower STG from PTF. Caught some "middle ground" in setting to avoid blinding oncoming traffic and in any case not light on low beam. =)

The idea of the rules, but there is a big BUT! Optics need to keep clean... amivel would go there again...

Damn, you contradict yourself, you first check or just take a ruler and play with the angles, it's just physics, not a rig rocket science, okay I will not argue but really overpriced, the angle, and strong, but the idea of the rules.

Near the garage we were not able to pull in 20 meters. The angle of incidence STG PTF is large enough, the boundary of light from the PTF falls much earlier in the middle. It is proven and on the garage door and on to the straight, but the photo did not. I'm against the blinding farm-xenon and do not allow a curve set up.

TIMON21

Pictures of street very bad. There are potholes and pits ((
Set up adeuate. Raised quite a bit, while STG PTF falls much earlier beam. Took this step, because the car basically just goes with the included PTF.

I'm saying, on rasstojanii 5 meter normal light, and after 20 m you will blind everyone and everything, don't believe check on the wall, it's elementary

I understand what you mean.

I agree that PTF should beat away and parallel to the road. Because of this possible slight discomfort flow counter from parasitic exposure. The above — Pro halogen PTF.

In this situation, we deliberately "underestimated" the light from the PTF, made it much lower beam. The main goal is to improve the lighting in front of the car (some kind of "near-zone"), while not dazzling oncoming traffic.

The light from PTF in any case does not replace a passing light.

In PTF is installed bulb 4300 K. Myself believe that for PTF optimally from 3000 K to 4300 K.
There was no choice, the car xenon has been. He was, unfortunately, in the reflex optics and blinding to the oncoming... Corrected the situation with the help of such lenses PTF =)

In Europe, I heard a large fine for misuse of fog.
We have the same... even the police cars drive with xenon lamps in the reflex optics (((

TIMON21

Have you seen regular LENSES PTF for BMW, Volvo, Kia?
PTF retained its purpose, they Shine below the middle "under the fog".

Too lazy to look for links.

But the light beam PTF is not like the middle.
I.e., the beam is tilted and the road, then PTF is shining almost parallel to the ground. a ray of light, though weaker than the middle, but Shine on (in any case not better the middle) and wider.

No wonder, in Europe, the PTF can be used only in fog.

Well, until the pile, the whiter(cooler) the light, the worse it reflected dark objects in wet weather.

PTF to Shine under the fog! In FF2 they Shine exactly 2 m from the vehicle. 2m from the car is unsafe even if you go 40 km h. I don't want to get them light is equal to the middle. I want to Shine at the level of the PTF my old Viburnum. Answer exhaustive?

116-region

cool happened) dream to your фокус2 to put linkowanie PTF with xenon, and the state doesn't light at all) will not prompt the link where you ordered?

PTF does not Shine? So they do not have to cover you, by the way! TFF, as it should, even the name is included exclusively in the fog!

TIMON21

Most likely there from the factory halogen, I did not check )))
The legitimate use of xenon in question, but there are examples is the famous HELLA. There is an interesting model www.allhella.ru/catalog/d...y-element-micro-de-xenon/.

In this case, light from a xenon lamp is formed by a lens. This is nothing compared to a xenon lamp in the reflex optics.

First, Hella Micro DE is not a fog lamp, and the "optical element, and they usually put as the auxiliary lights as additional driving lights. But to go with them, as with xenon in PTF in the city — it is idiocy and disrespect for other road users

TIMON21

Yes, the link is a lens of a headlight. Initially, I wanted to give an example of PTF HELLA with xenon. I can not find... as I recall xenon PTF version they had.

No xenon Micro DE. They all have a lens, so you can put xenon. But this is not the PTF!

Thanks for the advice

TIMON21

This is PTF. Not near, not far.
The only main difference from flow — is lens, xenon and blind.
You have to understand that with a long light in town nobody goes. Rarely, as needed.

The way, the guano, which is now in cars even in the factory and served as "fog lights" really aren't. They can be called more running lights, no more. If possible, view device fog lights made in the USSR. Then you will have an idea about PTF.

The engineers at Volvo are great. Was FF — barrels in the wing, in front of the wheel. Now Mazda, barrels in the wing behind the wheel.
Electric heating is not desirable to use, because there is conditionally free source of heat ))

In the Volvo staff just the washer tank hugs the surge tank and so on. Although now full of all sorts of heaters for diesel filters, and you can probably use them.

I was thinking about the heating barrel washer )))
A lot of reports on the D2 — plant antifreeze after the throttle in a homemade coil-boiler.

The button was in the kit. I hooked up the washer relay to a standard relay in the car ( after 5 seconds hold the washer on and lights) + put a separate button. The only time antifreeze must be chosen carefully ( we in Belarus there are no problems with quality, but expensive), otherwise in the bitter cold was freezing and the washer jets.

Washer — super! A separate button taken out?

So. I'm on my last one perfectly yuzal washer Sho-me in the amount of two sets (dipped and fog). Fortunately the Volvo is a tank of 6 liters capacity. Only tomance nozzle set from 159ой alpha.

Yes, aware of this problem. In the report indicated in the notes that the optics must be kept clean.
Sandblasting also affects the bare lens.
The micro de was holding )) Interesting they are, but because of their little forms where applicable.

A couple of years ago playing with lenses in optics. Such lights are not suitable for real life. Need another glass after the lens. Because they greatly lose in brightness when dirty. Problem, even in summer, in winter they are useless. Read about Hello micro ( there's even a xenon version was), the same problem.

Of course. Brabus and AMG is a tuning Studio, though imenitye that okonjoiweala factory machine :)))

alexcei2007

Don't understand the farm — factory is not installed, why kolhozah, only problems to other participants of movement to create? Or vision is weak?

And the brabus and amg. Put two foglights on each side, the same farm?

If people put lenses, think differently should set them up.
Otherwise, a penny the price of such work.

Colleagues xenon optics reflectional welcome far =)
Unfortunately, a lot of those. Recently caught the eye of a police Ford farm-xenon - ((

Often ride at night so I have the feeling that most fellow motorists, put xenon or lenses, and forget about the adjustment on others. The result of their work — blind oncoming themselves that does not see... do Not argue, if with mind to approach to the implementation of such ideas — then all will be comfort.

The farm is a loose concept... You understand what is the difference of xenon lamp lens and reflex optics? The light from these PTF will not dazzle the oncoming lane. The vehicle is basically included with the PTF, hence the desire to eliminate the collective farm xenon from reflex optics. Did the kolkhoz xenon lens optics to all and all was well.

Don't understand the farm — factory is not installed, why kolhozah, only problems to other participants of movement to create? Or vision is weak?

Washer — the decision is good and correct. The refraction of light will be short, only for cleaning optics.

TIMON21

Sorry for the question, have you read the report or looked only at the pictures?
In the notes I specifically pointed out important points — about the need to keep the optics clean and about the legality of xenon in the PTF.
The phrase "chronic levered" I know the driver who drives in the left lane with low speed at the FREE right.
Someone to drive from a number of due to the fact that in a hurry I also believe ignorance and rudeness.

Umywalki can deliver, but what about the refracted light from the liquid?

Thanks for the read.
I agree, PTF in wet weather it is almost impossible to keep clean. Therefore, the driver needs to understand when and under what conditions to use any such PTF.

Of course I did! PTF in purity contain is almost impossible!

Sorry for the question, have you read the report or looked only at the pictures?
In the notes I specifically pointed out important points — about the need to keep the optics clean and about the legality of xenon in the PTF.
The phrase "chronic levered" I know the driver who drives in the left lane with low speed at the FREE right.
Someone to drive from a number of due to the fact that in a hurry I also believe ignorance and rudeness.

But it is not thought that covered with dirt PTF will dazzle oncoming traffic.
As for the "... or please move chronic Lavaredo" hurry and overtake. Why do people provoke? I am personally seeing in the mirror these clowns purposely lower the speed.

on account of the bolt-it is of course not the fact that to be a direct bolt-but he will go to this)) plan to make different sizes and make a mounting bracket for them, the light of course should be any better for this and all the plotting)
the report will do about the replacement of the headlights E53 brother he is just tired lenses cost, and tomance yourself on E83 stick)

Kdmpfer

the question in the subject) plan to bring the party LED lenses, how they will be in demand? or in other words yourself would buy?)

I think that if there are options for "bolt-on" and adequate light from the optics, there will be demand.
Waiting for the first samples from you in the form of a report, etc.; -)

I think that all 3 points will do)

would consider the option of buying if: a) the type and dimensions allowed to install them without much blood instead of lamps (or reflectors) in PTF. b) price per pair of not more than 2,500 PE. C) the performance would be watertight.

semm308

Yes, I noticed this effect))) for myself, found this explanation — as before the car became very bright, the pupil of the eye at the "focus" front of the car is as constricted, and of course the less illuminated zone which is perceived darker than usual, as the amount of light captured by the pupil of the eye is very small.(also a little confusing described). This after much experimentation with increasing the brightness of the lighting area before the car came to the conclusion that the fascination with the lighting in front of cars does not increase to a comfortable speed of movement in the dark ( and that is all and seek)...in a simple way — if the weather is bad and dark, the trail will still slow even with statname headlights, even with a mega bright lens and xenon in them (of course we believe that our headlights do not blind straczek). When leisurely riding Yes, all the alterations allow for a more comfortable ride on the rough roads ( the lens in the PTF is low and prostrate on the ground the light from them is good at detecting the pits and especially the convexity of the road).

R. s. I think because I described the effect of all the auto manufacturers and are on the path do not increase the brightness of the headlights and the introduction of diode laser and adaptive light.

the question in the subject) plan to bring the party LED lenses, how they will be in demand? or in other words yourself would buy?)

TIMON21

How did you conclude that the "fog steel beam dipped beam"?
If on the street photos, the conclusion is not true. Street photography is very unfortunate, the terrible terrain, the bumps and pits. Look closely at STG PTF and near at the gate of the garage is the "starting point" of beams of light. Further STG PTF falls much earlier beam. I want to say that PTF is in any case not replace middle. The setting has made adequate so as not to dazzle. Otherwise what's the point to get away from the xenon lamp in the reflex optics when the lens is peel all of the eyes? )))
Unfortunately, other photos, for clarity, do...

I don't use nuts at the sight of welders, just welcome regular xenon high beam =)

Thanks for the comment.

They became worthless-minded middle light. At PTF form of the light beam is completely different.

Accepted )

How did you conclude that the "fog steel beam dipped beam"?
If on the street photos, the conclusion is not true. Street photography is very unfortunate, the terrible terrain, the bumps and pits. Look closely at STG PTF and near at the gate of the garage is the "starting point" of beams of light. Further STG PTF falls much earlier beam. I want to say that PTF is in any case not replace middle. The setting has made adequate so as not to dazzle. Otherwise what's the point to get away from the xenon lamp in the reflex optics when the lens is peel all of the eyes? )))
Unfortunately, other photos, for clarity, do...

I don't use nuts at the sight of welders, just welcome regular xenon high beam =)

Thanks for the comment.

The implementation is good, the starting point was — so-so. Rebuttal 2:
— fog lights steel beam of a passing light;
— the risk of blinding oncoming.

It should be borne in mind that some of the parties DD has nuts and washers for the education of very bright oncoming. The measure is not very good, but KMK is correct.

=)
Understood =) Thank you for trying.

Agree! Good middle light does not require much perverted.

It is about something else, what you did is much better than the xenon lamp in tomance(good job), although the experience of the previous machine, after installing the lens, I forgot about tomance.

Hid xenon lamp reflex optics was the introduction of lenses PTF.
Or are you talking about a replacement head lighting of the dipped beam? PTF data can not completely replace the middle light, because their STG falls before the middle of the world. PTF Shine below and slightly worse in the middle (the measurements were done at ST FF).

Great change just xenon bulbs.

I agree, there is. But they are not common and the price tag is significant.

Blinded a farm, because the xenon lamp was already in the normal PTF. In the report I wrote about it, maybe you haven't noticed...

So in the rain to be comfortable you need to use bulbs with a temperature of 3000K or 4300K. Anything above that balavstvo )))
But we must remember that the xenon in the PTF beyond the law.

For a long time have led PTF) why a farm that sculpt, especially when you consider that in the rain xenon poorly visible on the pavement?)

This is actually a very good idea to implement the spell check and the washer.

I thought about it. To implement the auto-corrector will need to think through the mechanism of a motorcycle suspension. This is the only difficulty because the Chinese made mount is very primitive. Signals up and down to take no. The washer fluid also shouldn't be a problem =)

Well now there is a reason to consider a PTF washer. The spell check you should in principle be in the database, since there is a regular xenon.

All right.
Only the data of PTF designed for halogen lamps. They have no need of marking, no spell check, no washer.

Redid the fierce collective-xenon, ennobled with a lens. We decided to do so despite the prohibitions. Good galogenki not used, because the xenon lamp disassembling is not required.
At the exit — focused light. Under the conditions of the possibility of dazzling the oncoming lane is minimal, but still there.

The requirement to spell check and the washer for any headlight with gas discharge lamp.
1.3.14.6. The headlamps and fog lamps, the light source which
is a gas-discharge lamp shall be marked with either "E" or
"e" (see Fig. 2.1). Such headlamps shall be equipped with a washer and automatic mouth-
the device adjust tilt angle, and the beam needs to stay on all the time
NYM, when you turn on the beam.
1.3.14.7. The use of gas-discharge light sources (category D) transport-
governmental funds that are not equipped with the automatic headlight adjustment is not allowed.
Automatic headlight adjustment on vehicles equipped with headlights with gas
bit light sources should be workable.

Why put xenon in the PTF, even with a lens, if it is outside the law, i.e. forbidden?
Would it not be easier to put a good galogenki lens?

This requirement is true for xenon in headlights.
For lenses PTF is permissible to use only halogen lamps, and auto-corrector and headlamp washers are required. Xenon in the PTF beyond the law.

TIMON21

Good morning! :-)
To apologize here for that ))
Discuss, comment and talk normally after all.

The question you have put really bluntly.
Question about the functionality and legality of the installation. In fact, we have increased the efficiency of lighting in front of the car without observing the requirements of law. I understand and realize with all this I'm not looking for any excuses.
Setting these lens halogen headlights would be completely legal ))) moreover, these PTF designed for halogen.

Good day, and where the washer and automatically correct headlight for PTF? They should be in addition to the lenses on the cars with xenon. This requirement p. 1.3.14.7 of the technical Regulations for the CU

Thank you!
And good luck on the roads! Less in the way of blinding "UFO" ))

well... safe and trouble-free operation, I hardly wish)

Good morning! :-)
To apologize here for that ))
Discuss, comment and talk normally after all.

The question you have put really bluntly.
Question about the functionality and legality of the installation. In fact, we have increased the efficiency of lighting in front of the car without observing the requirements of law. I understand and realize with all this I'm not looking for any excuses.
Setting these lens halogen headlights would be completely legal ))) moreover, these PTF designed for halogen.

I don't want to offend anyone and I am not the judge in these matters xenon. I mean that we, as a nation, want to do for themselves what is good, understanding in advance that it is forbidden, but in any dovydami third parties trying to protect themselves and to protect, saying it was so - and I've done a little better. In Your case, slightly better is to put native reflex PTF with the usual galogenki.
I apologize in advance.

In the report I pointed out about the legality of xenon in the PTF (they are outlawed).
The car already had the xenon in the PTF reflex, decided to improve with a lens. Made adequate setting to avoid blinding. I think that the most important step was made — eliminates clipping the oncoming lane.

MB I that is where I missed something... But the installation of the xenon in all kinds and forms in PTF ( PTF any tila, even with the lenses) is prohibited. So, from what you and MB did the proper xenon, relative to the reflex optics, but to the understanding is correct, you have not approached a single step.

Thank you

Responded to the drug.

Great result.
There is a link to PTF?

it's not that. when the right column goes and I safely overtake, and download the film hustling motherfucker even with a non-native region back and blinks like make way the king goes, and is not a sin to be punished, and the appropriate people always ignored=)

ortst

"So invite and respect the farm-xenon with contraflow will either ask to move chronic Lavaredo"
I have such ichnospecies fans blinked back has a laser pointer aliexpress 15W at which paper burns=) shined back in his eyes and vanished the rush=)

You blinked to the road gave way, and you get the orders and take actions to damage the eyesight? Yes, so you only need to beat the face at the first opportunity and without hesitation!

Perhaps you misunderstood... Under chronic leverage understand those drivers who are blunt in the extreme left lane at the FREE right. Unfortunately, there are quite a lot (((

Blinking far with working traffic because of the rush I also think bad form.

"So invite and respect the farm-xenon with contraflow will either ask to move chronic Lavaredo"
I have such ichnospecies fans blinked back has a laser pointer aliexpress 15W at which paper burns=) shined back in his eyes and vanished the rush=)

True, there are reflex lights under the xenon lamp. Often it is dipped headlights on old cars.

I'm a bit generalized, because the vast majority of welders install a xenon bulb in the reflex optics, which is designed for halogen.

reflex lights are different

Gorgeous light!saliva tecot!

Interesting offer! Someone has already done it? There are real reports?

Still one cover to add to the lens to make the wide line and get bright spots on the road immediately in front of the car, roughly to two GH, one at the top right, and a second down to the road in front of the car did not run, because the rain will be much dazzle from the road!

Thank you!
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You can about the model PTF find out Steep light

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What is PTF?

Well, tell me how marked xenon PTF :) And then discuss permitted or prohibited :)

MaestroRybinsk

hell some, sorry. Well, Yes of course, xenon in the PTF is prohibited, and the time will come when it will be out there on the track, and stick directly to the driver in the designated place :)

Xenon in the PTF are not allowed!

well put xenon was originally in reflectornuu optics, by the way, on Japanese cars it has ceased to be recently

=)
"Hell" is when xenon Lama lives in the reflex optics. In this case, we eliminated the "hell" and made friends with the lamp lens. I hope you understand the difference as formed by the light beams in the first and in the second case, (reflector and lens).

I'm against welders, I try to welcome their distant ))

I hope that this time will come... or even peace officers have to run to the proctologist to extract xenon xD
This I mean that the collective-farm xenon in reflex optics are very common, even on the police cars ((( yet another long time no see.

hell some, sorry. Well, Yes of course, xenon in the PTF is prohibited, and the time will come when it will be out there on the track, and stick directly to the driver in the designated place :)

The diagram is drawn without any numbers, everything is conditional. The main objective of this scheme to show that the STG from STG previously, PTF falls from the beam.

the diagram does not clear the setting value of the slope of the line GH on the horizon.

Also I would like to credit where I got)

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give referring to PTF))

Modules are protected. The casing is cast, there is a membrane for ventilation.
The problem with the actual dirt. It is possible to solve using washer.

but modules protected? whether long enough?
IMHO, secerets shit to Shine and dazzle respectively... for ksenevich modules mandatory headlight.

This question is difficult to answer unequivocally.
Some are used for task lighting, others as additional lighting.

Why do tomancak xenon?

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About the same, at the slightest irregularities of all this will dazzle oncoming traffic.

AcmeD

the auto-corrector headlights makes sense, and I believe not necessarily... most importantly once set properly, the slope will be nothing but the bumps, blinding in a fraction of seconds do not give the opposite, not because the collective-farm xenon. And concealer tomanek all the bumps and slopes to cope will not have time, it would not make sense.

Any regular spell check will ignore short-term ukloneniya body from the horizon on the left.
I.e. beds, pits or short descents/ascents can't get the spell check to change the direction of the light beam.
Another thing is if you load the trunk load. In this case, the spell check will "see" the offset relative to the horizon and decide to "drop" STG.

Steve11

It's interesting how you can normally set a time ? Set up on the empty car and then put 3 people back and trunk full of things, and that normally will Shine and not blind .

+ in most cases, there are manual configuration of the cabin, when the people and the goods can be slightly adjusted.

Yes, exactly, taking into account such load do obviously "below" the level of light. My lens, and I was checking to see where you Shine, stood on the empty road opposite, sadisya behind the wheel of another machine on the contrary, when the light in the dark, itself a little Shine, but not a welder, but if your light at oncoming rules, then all is well.

It's interesting how you can normally set a time ? Set up on the empty car and then put 3 people back and trunk full of things, and that normally will Shine and not blind .

the auto-corrector headlights makes sense, and I believe not necessarily... most importantly once set properly, the slope will be nothing but the bumps, blinding in a fraction of seconds do not give the opposite, not because the collective-farm xenon. And concealer tomanek all the bumps and slopes to cope will not have time, it would not make sense.

And the auto-corrector headlights, and fog lamps

Steve11

I understand . but I don't think people will be riding in the spring on the highway, where the pile of dirt after the winter and go out and clean every 50 kilometers fog .

Spending money on lenses + xenon + installation, you can eventually spend on a washer and tomanek.

It can be. It is on the conscience of the driver. When to turn on and keep clean optics to minimize flare from dirty optics.

I understand . but I don't think people will be riding in the spring on the highway, where the pile of dirt after the winter and go out and clean every 50 kilometers fog .

Steve11

I hope soon all of you will begin to deprive the rights

I hope you understand how are the light rays in lenses and reflex optics.
But the law is really for it can deprive WU.

Unfortunately, in our country, not deprived of farm-xenon. The article is, no action. Order will not be long! What can I say, if the police cars cut through with the farm-xenon in PTF reflex.

I hope soon all of you will begin to deprive the rights

It seems to me that it is better not to think )))
A serious blow to the wing can make a lot of problems.

Brains under the wing? Ford never ceases to amaze.

Blinding this light is not worse than hexanone in reflex optics, the lenses are designed to work at a certain angle and that though something was visible at just the right altitude at least 50 centimeters from the ground. In your case, given the spot light they cocked up badly and as a consequence a little dazzle in the perfect way and hell will be blind in the rain and on hills. On top of the mounting angle will also affect the lens coating droplets of water and dirt in the rain.

The pictures are extremely bad, it is really possible to conclude that STG bullied.
Set up adequately. I agree, this can be attributed to additional working light.

I was just looking at the photos included PTF (although let's call a spade a spade, you don't have this PTF, and extra light) judging by the level on the wall — Yes, shining below, but judging by the photos the car — still have the glare

PS: in unusual situations, when the right and the left dig, you can just go straight, because, as I believe in free right, you go through it (and if not, than you will be different from one who rides on the left under free right? but I guess you observe traffic rules)? so whoever drags on the left you will not be a hindrance.

We are not talking about normal traffic when all rows are occupied.
There are times when a person hangs in the far left lane at the free right. In this case, you can draw attention far short.

Data PTF Shine far below the middle.
The lighting efficiency from below the middle. Was measurements deloittetouche the ST.
The likelihood of blinding oncoming minimal. The main condition for net optics.

TIMON21

You come across chronic leverage? Which occupy the extreme left lane at the free right?
If not, then I am sincerely happy for you.

Powerful flash far can attract attention and "ask" to give way.
If the driver is adequate, then it comes that you can rebuild and continue to move with the same speed to the right.
If the principal or catches mice, it's not going anywhere, of course.
Have to stay ahead on the right.

but if in the right lane too, people go, what they will be to blame when you dazzle with this chandelier? and, Yes, in my opinion, PTF — blind have much more than my lights, I usually, when these go to a meeting — far include.

I agree... but partly.

You come across chronic leverage? Which occupy the extreme left lane at the free right?
If not, then I am sincerely happy for you.

Powerful flash far can attract attention and "ask" to give way.
If the driver is adequate, then it comes that you can rebuild and continue to move with the same speed to the right.
If the principal or catches mice, it's not going anywhere, of course.
Have to stay ahead on the right.

3) Added "POWER". At blinking far forcibly included PTF with lowered blinds. Described in detail in the report on the ST.

And do You really think that if they did all my kit, traveling ahead with fear will sybnet the way?

krasava!

Awesome, can you give a link to them?Thank you in advance, smooth roads.

PTF Shine better than I have lights, tin)) is very bright.

TIMON21

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And I

About as )) did Not expect ))
Well, Audi and Volvo are expected to Shine well, asking is not enough dough ))

But nifiga! Saw the video with the test didny headlights. RAV4, сх5 and x-trail was on the verge of failure, worse than the xenon. Good was mercy I do not remember what. and the Best diodes and Q7 and volvo XC90

Ahah ))
Well the halogen and xenon which is no better ))
I think the new RAV4 sidodadi cool, because my brother has a Lexus diodes, there is a good light

Poorly, but enough! But on the new RAV4 with the halogen light in General dupa! This is the worst light that I've ever seen
ON my accent halogen luminaries xenon is much better in the Forester.

Yes, there are not even in the settings, and that it shines poorly. Well, apparently everyone has their own eye

PTF on forike not change the situation. WELL, who needs lighted side 5 metres. And the middle, too, thought bad, turns out you need to configure it correctly yourself, and not rely on factory settings

Rust001

no doubt that is better for me tomance as a fifth wheel)))
welders need to burn far

On the Forester the middle light is terrible and I don't understand how you went purely on the middle light. Simply put — the bottom. PTF have been somehow improved the situation, but by far no complaints.

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link to PTF lenses can?

Lights of course Ford enough :))

great!)

July King Car Front Bumper Bifocal Lens Fog lamp Assembly case for Ford Focus Fiesta S-MAX Mondeo EcoSport Transit Pick-up, etc.
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what kind of lenses installed in PTF?

July King Car Front Bumper Bifocal Lens Fog lamp Assembly case for Ford Focus Fiesta S-MAX Mondeo EcoSport Transit Pick-up, etc.
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(from AliExpress Android)

and I can be a reference to PTF?

What is the condition of the lenses on today? Glass the whole? Light did not become worse?

All right. Lenses Shine is better than dim light.

No!This can not be, because the photo clearly shows that STG PTF is much lower than STG dipped beam.On skates I think it is unlikely that you will be someone blind, because it takes a fraction of a second while driving a bump

but the opposite is not blind? I set myself all think that the bumps on eyes cut, even though if the front seat, the light is shining just as, if not brighter

What is the condition of the lenses on today? Glass the whole? Light did not become worse?

Worse, the light was gone!Only positive emotions!After installation, only on them and went! The operation was more than 1.5 years, the car sold.The current owner is very happy!As I blizini light does not turn, rides just for them!

What is the condition of the lenses on today? Glass the whole? Light did not become worse?

Sorry, a little mistake and nick =)
Have reddevil999 Ford Focus ST, a report on the installation and measurement of luxometer here (www.drive2.ru/l/5447359/).
The owner of this car sergeybone. From him, waiting for comments =)

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The question should be addressed to the owner of the car reddevil999.
Sergey, be drbr unsubscribe! Thank you!

I installed these lenses on my Mazda. No complaints.

What is the condition of the lenses on today? Glass the whole? Light did not become worse?

Yes, it's 2.5 inches. Saw a variant of the 3.0", where the mount is much better than 2.5".

It is 2.5 inches? I imagine those on 3.0 inch changed, generally the fire began.

Thank you!))

SpeedChaser

Clear. Found this, may be helpful for the future. I am sure there are other types, but these will work for me. As close as possible to the drain just to get forked. You can plug the second crop, and simply append the wires without "cutting". ru.aliexpress.com/item/90...03_8,afswitch_1_afChannel, ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=0aa62d41-9d78-4a7e-a106-4f7c5ac99e97&algo_expid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a-0&algo_pvid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a

www.drive2.ru/b/468276505785401584/

Here in this report may also look at the installation process...

Not for that =)

Yes indeed, I did not expect that everything is so difficult. Well, nothing maybe someone else will be useful for who will read it))) Thanks for giving useful information on connecting!

SpeedChaser

Clear. Found this, may be helpful for the future. I am sure there are other types, but these will work for me. As close as possible to the drain just to get forked. You can plug the second crop, and simply append the wires without "cutting". ru.aliexpress.com/item/90...03_8,afswitch_1_afChannel, ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=0aa62d41-9d78-4a7e-a106-4f7c5ac99e97&algo_expid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a-0&algo_pvid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a

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Here is the connector of the headlight. In the photo is just a fixed point in the search for the desired signal ))

No, this is on FF3 won't do.

The ignition connects your chip to the chip the OEM wiring. The wires from the blinds must be connected to the wiring that goes to the headlamp. The connector on the headlamp contains about 8 pins. Connector, rather a few mom-dad to look for makes no sense. Not the fact that this connector there and not the fact that the adapter will fit. The place is very much limited.

Clear. Found this, may be helpful for the future. I am sure there are other types, but these will work for me. As close as possible to the drain just to get forked. You can plug the second crop, and simply append the wires without "cutting". ru.aliexpress.com/item/90...03_8,afswitch_1_afChannel, ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=0aa62d41-9d78-4a7e-a106-4f7c5ac99e97&algo_expid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a-0&algo_pvid=04c20446-be06-40ec-ba19-bf0f29d87b3a

Transaction cutting is not necessary, but in order to take the signal "beam" will need to remove the insulation and "crash" in a copper mine. The shutter is activated when a supply voltage of 12V.

Thank you! As I did with the wiring was cut? I've been wondering maybe there's a wire that changes the one output to two. Or is there only the cover you need?

The connection is not complicated.

The minimum you need to do:
1) connect the ballasts to the standard power connectors PTF;
2) connect the curtain to the PTF signal "distant light" forward lighting.

And how it to connect?

Meals there where the road better.

Alex-Ls

if you look from a technical point of view, it is implemented perfectly, the lighting efficiency is really high.

but it so happened that in addition to the author on the roads is other drivers, the xenon in the PTF impossible.
if hard to see in the dark, you may want to contact the optometrist or simply drive only when light?

but this time : 3) Added "POWER". At blinking far forcibly included PTF with lowered blinds. Described in detail in the report on the ST. are you serious? I think someone really move?
never understood the nerds, which goes into the rear bumper, and blinking madly far. I mean, what vkluchit enough logic to understand that a car that rides on the extreme left can turn left, or go to turn, it is necessary to take into account the time that the roads have mostly low quality, and there are such of his situation that the left lane most alive. personally, I never shifted out of the way when I blink far, especially when the other free lanes.

So who goes to the left while free other. Moscow to be taught to ride.

TIMON21

Thanks for the comment.

I will explain some points.
About the mode "accelerates" out of my context is really possible to make wrong conclusions...

Mode accelerates was created for such situations when there is a need to attract attention. The easiest example is on the highway or on the track man was daydreaming and driving on the left lane, at the free right (where there are no left turns...). In this case, you can gently blink. No one is saying that you need to stretch in the bumper and furiously blinking far... People are adults, adequate. Situations much different... about the broken right can also be considered, to understand. I want to say that PTF can be enabled only when necessary.

Twink far in any case does not give an advantage. If the person is not giving way, it is easier to stay ahead on the right. No problems.

PTF data is really outside the law. Moreover, in fact these PTF can be attributed to the additional working light.

I only adequate driving and mutual respect on the roads.

If I'm driving in the left lane means o & m is not just. And enrage those who go for 1-2km and begin to namegiving. Although at that time I overtake some vehicle. According to me blinking jump it was necessary?not understanding the meaning of the blinking is easier if the woodpecker goes on the left and free right prosy I spcv it is easier to see. This will work faster than giving a man to understand that he would have rebuilt

I lenses at PTF at set bulb xenon yellow coating class 3000 Kelvin the light is warm yellow and is very useful in slush

Yes, xenon in the PTF beyond the law. Neither in the lens nor in the reflex optics.

A good lens in the PTF had to be put halogen bulbs.
Appetite comes while eating, as they say. Established xenon lamp, turned out not PTF, and extra work light.

do not understand, PTF with xenon outside the law — then why put? Adrenaline a little, the traffic police are sponsoring or something else?

Thanks for the comment.

I will explain some points.
About the mode "accelerates" out of my context is really possible to make wrong conclusions...

Mode accelerates was created for such situations when there is a need to attract attention. The easiest example is on the highway or on the track man was daydreaming and driving on the left lane, at the free right (where there are no left turns...). In this case, you can gently blink. No one is saying that you need to stretch in the bumper and furiously blinking far... People are adults, adequate. Situations much different... about the broken right can also be considered, to understand. I want to say that PTF can be enabled only when necessary.

Twink far in any case does not give an advantage. If the person is not giving way, it is easier to stay ahead on the right. No problems.

PTF data is really outside the law. Moreover, in fact these PTF can be attributed to the additional working light.

I only adequate driving and mutual respect on the roads.

if you look from a technical point of view, it is implemented perfectly, the lighting efficiency is really high.

but it so happened that in addition to the author on the roads is other drivers, the xenon in the PTF impossible.
if hard to see in the dark, you may want to contact the optometrist or simply drive only when light?

but this time : 3) Added "POWER". At blinking far forcibly included PTF with lowered blinds. Described in detail in the report on the ST. are you serious? I think someone really move?
never understood the nerds, which goes into the rear bumper, and blinking madly far. I mean, what vkluchit enough logic to understand that a car that rides on the extreme left can turn left, or go to turn, it is necessary to take into account the time that the roads have mostly low quality, and there are such of his situation that the left lane most alive. personally, I never shifted out of the way when I blink far, especially when the other free lanes.

Cool.

Welcome!

Mondeo 4 dorest ready-made solutions from the Chinese, unfortunately. Was restayl, it is okay www.drive2.ru/b/468276505785401584/.

To introduce the lenses in regular PTF, but not worth powder and shot. From the lens of the small size of the wing will be almost.

welcome)))
and can you, for a fee, to perform the same work and tuning on my car?! Mondeo 4 Dorest)))

You vidnee

there is nothing "special" no, the important thing is that the reflex xenon is absolutely not dangerous and not evil. Evil is "burnable" lens

Tim-Dnepr

> Xenon bulb in the reflex optics is a dangerous evil!

some rare stuff :) why, then, there is a constructive D2R? why a car with a conveyor going with the xenon and reflector?

Because the special reflector is — Google the old...

nonsense. it is the right STG is obtained when all manufactured in accordance with the calculations.

I had both. so I tell you a secret — the lens is worse :)
because the quality of light is the same, but the reflectors burn out twice (if not more) faster

In context means that the xenon bulb in the reflex optics, which is designed for halogen, is a fierce angry farm. So angry that it blinds everyone and everything, but the illumination for the driver the floor.

Your example applies to a kind of technical compromise... I Think that D2R is the transition stage from the reflector with the halogen to lens optics. Today D2R losing relevance.

> Xenon bulb in the reflex optics is a dangerous evil!

some rare stuff :) why, then, there is a constructive D2R? why a car with a conveyor going with the xenon and reflector?

Of course, I understand... but we should not welcome the farmers in this way. I that you cut them long and blind, or just blink?

Judging by the pictures above. Below, it is necessary that STG was.

The test light turned)

Modules live normal flight. The mud does its dirty work ))) it is Necessary to monitor the cleanliness, to wash off the dirt periodically.

How are modules that are not heavily contaminated?

IMHO not in PTF xenon
Me personally terribly blind such

Duc PTF needs a completely different light beam to give. and it's just a "low middle"

you can just the dark street to take a picture and everything will be visible, and you have illuminated so the glow turned out.

Nwico, much of what is prohibited and all POH

Thanks for the comment!

I read the comments here and all write that awful blinding everyone. I set myself similar tomance. Regulated download auto 100 kg. Usually behind 2 children and a few bags in the trunk. At night on the highway trying not to go. And place the drive with three passengers and included PTF that is not above the room. Spices retreated 300 meters and watched, nothing not a blind one, blind if you fall on the asphalt. Blind just the pots halogen right headlight :)

Said even blindness occurs when the car pulls up to 50 meters and closer. In this zone, cars should not Shine in the face of the driver. And the xenon light up to a kilometer (signs, lights) but not blind, you can see that Shine brighter than the rest, but do not cause discomfort. This is when uploaded by the most nehochu

Cleverly written, and the pictures with the right angle, thanks to the author. Useful.

Importantly, these PTF not include wet pavement. Why nobody ever thinks about the reflection of light from a wet roadway? Didn't anyone pay attention to parasitic reflections from puddles on trees and other objects okolonosovyh? All important rule — I can see and shit on others!

Peel I from Odessa see))
it was great

IMHO the xenon in PTF is not to illuminate, but to just blind. Include only for eviction associated with upchuck left lane on Cadet

Now, many are obsessed with the xenon, a fashion thing or what, but the fact that it is on the road just evil agree. I was tormented and in the end still ordered lenses on electro-cat.ru set and forget about this problem, just you need to take high quality.