Depreciation => - Toyota Corolla, 1.8L, 2003
Need advice Friends!
The car is still running on native shock absorbers from Japan ... for two winters, 50,000 run, and endures my bullying with springs =)
You can put a monument to them! But the last frosts have completely diminished the efficiency ... the oil picks up (especially from behind). In general, we need a replacement ...
Initially, we look at the Toyota catalog and see ZZE122:
Toyota 48530-80094 Suspension strut, rear right 4180r. (similarly for the price left)
Toyota 48510-80174 Amortization strut, front right 4461r. (the same for the price left)
Total = 17 thousand
I think it's too much! After all, as a rule, the original is a simple kayaba ... we look at the replacement:
Kayaba 341322 Two -pipe gas shock absorber "Excel-G" 2730r. (back)
Kayaba 339011 Rack two-pipe gas "Excel-G" 2906r. (before 1zz)
Kayaba 334323 Rack two-pipe gas "Excel-G" 3677r. (before 2zz, the stock is thicker)
Total = 11-12 thousand (already warmer)
It seems like the choice is purely for my car ends. But it was not there =) the logic goes further and we find European spare parts for European Corollas:
Bilstein B4 Gas. VNE-B111 . Front left 2000r
Bilstein B4 Gas. BNE-B113 . Rear 1700r
It is very interesting as a price / quality ratio, because a set of less than 8 thousand turns out ... and B4 is positioned as more sporty than standard ones!
"" These shock absorbers can be fitted with any standard springs, as well as springs specially designed for car suspension tuning.
Boge 30-E47-A Suspension shock absorber 1950r. (back). At one time I sold a large number of such racks for European, they were considered quite good quality (germany).
SACHS 311 915 Suspension shock absorber 2305r.
Monroe E 1312 Gas shock absorber, two-pipe "Reflex" 2533r.
WHAT DO YOU ADVISE FROM THIS LIST ?!
This is all a stock suspension, on which TRD springs will still be installed in the summer / Of course, I would like something semi-sporty ... I have been looking back at SR special and ULTRA SR for a long time (Ultra Wed also sold to Europe, the reviews are excellent):
but the price is about 4000 per piece back, and about 6 tr in front = 20 thousand set.
There is one more segment, boucoilovers, cusco, thane, etc. Price category 10-15t.r.
TRD WayDo
I also watched the Corolla Tsport
in front of Kayaba 334817 Rack two-pipe gas "Excel-G", right 2998r.
Toyota 48812-AB011 Rear stabilizer 3551r.
I doubt 100% compatibility
Price tag: 12 000 ₽it turned out that it would be necessary to refine the spring ... on the European racks the mount is slightly different
aka-mazai
The turbojet engine we sold was not expensive ...
Minino as a last resort =) preferable new ... which of the standard would you advise ?!
I am for Bilstein or Trd! although Bilstein would have been happy!
from Japanese I have more preference for kayaba ... I will carefully choose a supplier if that! Bilstein is suspiciously cheap ...
Excel zhi do a good job with underestimation, but kayaba we have almost all of china, if you just order with yapia. Bilstein inspires confidence, if only it is not a fake.
The turbojet engine we sold was not expensive ...
Minino as a last resort =) preferable new ... which of the standard would you advise ?!
I'm for trd sports) on auks for 18 rubles the kit hangs. Wed say that they do not get along well with understatement, but in general I would torment Minino, 12 rubles and a guarantee. Carriages are not an option, Cuzco is good for racing, but the city is evil.
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Well, what would you know, Tokiko churns out amorts for TRD
Do Tokiko show at least one sport directed streak?
I talked about the widespread TRD Sportivo
firstly, the site of the "world" can somewhere in America and rivet sports Tokiko, I have never seen such here. In Japan, these were not seen at auctions either. Exclusive!
And KYB can bring sports from Russia even today
What's the point of arguing ?! =) We live closer to the east
yes i am nothing)) www.tokicoperformanceshocks.com/products.aspx
which series of trd? ring yellow colas with height adjustment with the tokiko brand -
they don't have any worse tyryda, at least on our body
what are you? all that I saw turbojet engines including mine with engraving KYB, Tokiko specializes in stock (for the conveyor). Such eminent offices as C-ONE and others also take mainly KYB. KYB has the same NEW SR
aka-mazai
where else to find these Bilstein ... =) B6 in class, I think, is akin to a semi-sports kayaba. The question still rests on the budget ... it is modest = (
for some reason I don’t respect Tokiko. You took the Excel-tree for yourself ?!
Well, what would you know, Tokiko churns out amorts for TRD
in the summer it is normal, there is practice ... but in the winter it seems to me tin, with such road carosts! Here sho kick-ass is stuffed with kaleya ...
In winter, it was rather low in the Territory to enter the courtyards, but in summer it is more necessary to visit the lakes! As I removed the muffler, I began to drive dashingly everywhere! It's bad where there is a roll (Sinks, boxes ...) I shuffle my belly, but now I wash on one constant, everything is gorgeous there!
They are certainly good ... and how do you operate in winter ?!
The fact that the official site is not true =) especially the budget of 12 tr.
aka-mazai
Well, don't tell me ... the main thing is that the frosts are well tolerated! I will be on the same set of shock absorbers in winter and summer!
My TKD tolerates frosts shiikarno (only I have 2 winters, and you yourself know what frosts), especially on officers. website TRD-Parts.ru the price for a set before + back WayDo on mine costs about 17,000 without springs, it seems to me normal! The problem is that they have not yet opened an online store, but it's just a matter of time ...
Well, or at least a blue kayaba
I will not take out such an option yet for financial reasons ... so I need to take good durable ammora! In the summer, in principle, the stock + TRD springs are quite suitable for me for driving around the city and beyond ... Half of my run is the track.
you shouldn't do that :), on the contrary, for the summer, the price is better, the more expensive, the softer winter, so that the rolls on the ice would even appear and the racks do not mind the balo :)
Well, don't tell me ... the main thing is that the frosts are well tolerated! I will be on the same set of shock absorbers in winter and summer!
yes, I don’t bother with racks for the winter, that the first one was what I took :) in winter, what's the difference :)
where else to find these Bilstein ... =) B6 in class, I think, is akin to a semi-sports kayaba. The question still rests on the budget ... it is modest = (
for some reason I don’t respect Tokiko. You took the Excel-tree for yourself ?!
no need for coils - it's hard for everyday life.
I would advise to Bilstein B6 to take a closer look at your springs. well, at worst, a blue kayaba. all these monroes, kayabs eksel-z, bilstein b4 are all one and the same. better tokiko then. would not advise ...
konokrad
Kayaba 334323 Rack two-pipe gas "Excel-G" 3677 rub. (before 2zz, the rod is thicker)
Kayaba 341322 Two-pipe gas shock absorber "Excel-G" 2730r. (back)
For one of these, depending on what your budget is =)
They are standing now - normal, moderately rigid stands. Until they break through (10000 drove through)
The screws need to be taken only after thinking three times
budget so far exactly 12000… most likely these and I will take!
European under the spring a little do not fit
Kayaba 334323 Rack two-pipe gas "Excel-G" 3677 rub. (before 2zz, the rod is thicker)
Kayaba 341322 Two-pipe gas shock absorber "Excel-G" 2730r. (back)
For one of these, depending on what your budget is =)
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oh so? :)
I can’t advise you because I don’t know, not when I didn’t change it, but what I changed on the Corolla 1.5 showed
if you don't need sports racks. then I would take something like a kayaba, because it's budgetary, and even if you change something for new ones it will still be cheaper
and this is a normal result in fact ... because the racks run ten times less even easier! Another amendment to make on our roads ... for our winters ... and it turns out that such 80 thousand run across Japan
I have a second winter in front of the axel kayabs, passed somewhere 40 thousand. - now the right nafig died.
this is the result;) In winter, how was it exploited ?!
If you take a kayaba, then the front ones will be with a margin from a more advanced car
My Excel-G kayabs have run back 130 thousand, 4 years, and are still alive, the front ones have died by 70)
Strong cold below -25 tried not to drive. In cold weather, the garzh is warm at night. And so he exploited normally, went everywhere, skiing with a company, sometimes loads at work, etc.
At the expense of the rear ones, he was surprised that they were still workers ... until the summer I put cheap ones for 800 rubles, but workers, and then maybe I'll change everything on Koni.
aka-mazai
there are no horses on mine ... and I saw through! European racks don't fit a bit!
They beat b6 no longer for the money = (the budget is limited.
But the plans are just such, in the summer on the belly, in the winter on higher
but these are not yours?
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there are no horses on mine ... and I saw through! European racks don't fit a bit!
They beat b6 no longer for the money = (the budget is limited.
But the plans are just such, in the summer on the belly, in the winter on higher
don't you look at horses?
Of those that I suggested, I would look at the screws) in the summer I put it on my belly, in the winter I raised it almost like a drain ...
And if they beat it, it's better to b8, better under understatement
hmm. In trouble = / but if you order bilstein with springs, will everything be fine?
Much has been written, but everyone has their own truth. I have almost no experience in this matter, but as I already told you for some reason my soul lies with the Bilstein. Subaru Legacy B4 + BMW E36 with 12 series beaters which I was driving inspired me with confidence :) Horses are also very nice. Perhaps there are Japanese counterparts with similar performance characteristics, but I did not have the honor to try.
PS: Thought about altering the drain for yourself with the help of the uncles of the Ralists. thanks for the comment!
I would choose a piece or thane. the truth then would have regretted. because I had a chance to ride the Taines. you need to get used to them. but how they work out ... a fairy tale. But for everyday life I think the TRD Wade will be more than enough!
B4 Bilstein by the way now I have. This is certainly not a sport. But they are not very similar to their relatives either.
Yes it is =) thinking out loud ... one of these days I will order new ones on the front of the original so that there is no backlash
Well look. There will be sports racks ... and the supports there seem to be simple! You can, after all, put on them from some type of coilover cusco ... with adjustments ?!
there is an idea to put on the front adjustable supports… I still need to put under the new racks!
like this. I clearly hope ?!
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As I understand it, these machines are usually done from behind!
Exactly what not to steer, you need to get out due to the angles of the wheels (if they are adjustable), but the plus is that the din. there is practically no change in angles!
what does oak taxiing mean ?! =) our backside does not rulitsya… neutral understeer is difficult to achieve on the beam. Yes, of course, each car has its own recipes, I know for the Corolla ... the rear stub is to blame. Squishy in stock. True, in winter, excessive taxiing of the priest can play a cruel joke;) The
turbojet engine for the Corolla is one of the most expensive tunings. Recently they sold a stub for 3500 from hands ... there was no money
… In the plan of oak taxiing, the beam rules!
I looked what anyone has ... there is no front in nature, no one at all ... apparently the geometry is such that a dashing drawdown and swaying when taxiing gives feed ... very interesting and non-standard! (o_O)
Yes, each brand has its own approach ...
By the way, the product from TRD is not very expensive, somewhere within 5t.r (^_^)
There is a beam at the back, a stub in the beam =), the front one is definitely not handicraft, the shape is complex.
the rear one seems to be of a simple form ... well, you say this steel, probably does not stand. Maybe where the aftermarket will pop up
Rear ... don't you have a beam in the back? And why is the front unrealistic?
But self-production ... you need to know what brand of spring-spring steel to use, just carbon or alloy. Better of course alloyed, it will not rust! Another point is the type of rental, if I'm not mistaken - 3A, 3B, 3B and 3G, these types of rental are used in the manufacture of springs and torsion bars of a car (there are still several types, but I don't remember the marking)
I have been suffering about the stabilizer for a long time… the front is unrealistic, but from the back he was here to sell TRD - I missed it! I am thinking of making it myself, the difference in thickness with the stock one… I am thinking of the material if there is a difference. Or are they all steel
Conspirator! (^_^)
By the way, personally, I would put all the stock racks (new) and be confused about the stabilizer!
in late March! There are already several options for the development of events ... watch the BZ =)
heh heh ... 20, that is, it still swallows cracks of no more than 3cm ... (^_^)
How do you think, after how long can you let the N-th amount be drained?
struts strum on bumps ... the rear seems to me 20 percent to the remainder =) before 40
Then put the money aside and then we'll pick up something from Cusco or other attractive analogues! (-_ ^)
The main thing is not to rush ... although if the stands are absolutely ghoul ... are they ghoul or not?
I don't even think about draining yet ... she's becoming more and more attractive to me! After all, I have not yet reached the optimal configuration.
The main thing is that it does not "betray" me!
Then do not be wise and put the regular ones (either original, or just KYB)! Since everything that is offered by third-party manufacturers is a half measure (since the purchase of products that are close in character and price is an overflow from empty to empty), if you really change, so change to racks with reg. parameters ... Even if there are not enough resources to buy good, conditionally piece products (since most of Japanese tune products are manual labor), you need to put stock and not reinvent the wheel!
Anything wise it makes sense if the car is dear to you and you will not drain it under any circumstances! (^_^)
here everything is already mixed =) it seems like a hunt for sport in my heart ... but common sense says that we need simple ones. Just change the springs for the summer and that's it! For a couple more years and there probably I will already change the car
and I would advise you SR special is the best option for semi-sporty, very reliable and strong stands. keep the road well, and kind of tough but? at the same time not very. and comfort and sportiness! they are very well suited for our roads and operation on them! you can ride them and are not afraid of our winters and roads, unlike some sensational brands ïŠ he himself personally used such on the former selik. 2 years went on 17 disks, in our frosts, and everything was great! for your car, I think this series is just right! the advantages of SR special are, you do not need to change the racks in winter, in summer, but put them and drive all season! handling will improve! they hold the road really well! winter for them is garbage, moreover, ours is fierce. the springs do not need to be changed, the standard ones fit! minus the price, a little expensive, but! they are worth it, believe me :))
let's try what is tRD =) although there is KYB ... most likely it will be close to SR in terms of characteristics
dy nowhere :) in Irkutsk Corolla 120 well, they don't recognize it at all ... here you won't find it for sure.