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Twenty rounds \\u0026quot;the White hell\\u0026quot;

Here in the harsh conditions of the Arctic, on the most Northern in the world the testing ground tested a new model of winter tyres.

It seems that the branch office of Santa Claus is on every Finnish resort. Why? For the convenience of tourists. Where in Lapland you arrive, you will be able to perform all the obligatory program: to ride a snowmobile and dog sled, to buy lingonberry jam, raw-dried sausage from reindeer, plush moose magnet with the image of the Northern lights (it is unlikely you will be able to see it), and, in fact, to communicate with Santa Claus — which, as we all know from painful moment of transition from childhood to adulthood, does not exist in reality.

But what, in the existence of Hell, or "White hell", to doubt in Lapland is not necessary. The so-called world's largest landfill to test winter tires. He belongs to the Nokian Tyres, and is located close to Ivalo. It's a tiny town three hundred kilometers North of the Arctic circle.

Tourists from warmer countries in search of the exotic North, the airport to meet the slogan of a Finnish tire manufacturers on the baggage conveyor: "Welcome to our world". A world where the road most of the year created by ice and snow. Where all cars drive with extra headlights on the front bumper. Even tractors and dump trucks shod here in the special winter tires is clear of which brand. Finns respect their brands! It is here, in the Arctic circle, where the daily temperature difference can reach 40 degrees, ideal conditions for testing of winter tires in the period from November to may.

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A couple of tens of kilometers of glistening ice, narrow roads, and our gigantic bus running with a speed a wounded deer, forced to see the big man driving his brother Mika h? kkinen. The mind boggles, but the path from the hotel to the landfill we did without incident, though some journalists were seasick.

Finally, the bus slowed down and smoothly stopped at a giant arch with the inscription “White Hell”. More formidable arch decorated with metal icicles, and really reminiscent of otherworldly design. The gates marked "no admittance. Test polygon" silently moved to the side. Welcome to the only Hell where not hot!

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Tourists here ordered. Do not let representatives of other tire companies — despite the fact that 14% of the shares in Finnish tyre giant Bridgestone belongs to the company, tests of prototypes of these tires here are not held. The only exception is for journalists, and then — on special occasions. Actually, it was on this occasion, I was in the land of moose and cloudberries. I can't wait to get behind the wheel!

The name "White hell" polygon gave the German testers, similar to the "Green hell" Nordschleife of the nürburgring. There is something in the Finnish tundra in the area of 700 hectares is located 20 test runs with a total length of more than one hundred kilometers, is designed to test rubber in harsh weather conditions. A track laid on the ice of the lakes. Here in a year tested more than 500 sets of tires. It is here tested all new tyres Nokian.

According to the Finnish tyre Association ARL, more than half of the accidents with victims in the country connected with rubber. Chosen out of season, worn, incorrectly inflated. Test road landfill help to reliably establish the relationship between cause and effect. Simple truths are revealed here one by one, receiving documentary proof by means of measuring complexes, high-speed cameras and expert estimates.

Did you know that the contact patch of the tires tread depth 9-10 mm — the size of your palm? With increasing speed on wet road (water depth 3 mm) to 75 km / h it decreases by 26% at the speed of 125 km / h is 53%. The minimum allowable height of the graphic, 4 mm spot decreases by 48% and 89%. "Bald" tires with a tread depth of 1.6 mm and is almost does not hold for the soil — at 75 km. h. the contact area is reduced by 84% and 125 km h — 94%, i.e. the asphalt in this case, the machine barely keeps...

I also found out that the braking distance for the non-studded rubber on the same ice strongly depends not only on the type of the rubber itself, but also on the ambient temperature. When braking from a speed of 50 kilometers per hour, in the range from -1 to -8 degrees Celsius studded tires consistently give stopping distance in meters 41-43, but if studless tires -8 "Scandinavian type" give them only 4 meters, and the tires warm for the European winter — 12 meters, then the temperature increases up to -1 the difference is respectively of 17 meters and — hold tight — 35 meters! That is, in near-zero zone "European" nasipova inhibits almost twice as long. What can we say about "seseseko". The 700-metre indoor track test of the Audi Q5, shod in tires Michelin Premier LTX M+S with a speed of 40 kilometes per hour it slips under the sound of ABS on ice, surely long ahead of a stopped car on the studding. Blow, and a moment later, a humanoid mannequin up in the air, beating his head against the windshield, then falls lifeless under the wheels. I look at a stray fur, and between his own ears begin to rotate the gears. To ride at-shke in the winter I won't want to...

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Automotive engineer Matti Morry -directs technical support to customers and participates in the testing and development of new tires. Once a young graduate of a technical University, who had to work the mechanic, came to Nokian for five years, but remained for a long twenty-seven. "As you can see, I'm not ambitious", slyly smiling at Mattie. From the height of his education and experience, he gives very simple tips and substitutes for wordy marketing presentation. "If your operating conditions or how mean a long drive on Packed snow and ice — choose studding. If most of the time you will drive on asphalt, non-studded tires."

Study the passages on the track “White hell” on the crossover Audi Q5 and Mercedes Benz GLC, clad in tyre Hakkapeliitta 8 SUV convinced of the rightness of the engineer.

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Prepared for the snowmobiles and tractors tracks, replete with twists and turns, ascents and descents, the tires cling to the surface of all the 190 spikes (more than competitors).

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Even if you do not use any special driving techniques, the vehicle is driven on ice, very predictable The moment of abrupt skidding is not alone. Just speeding tires begin to slightly slip out of rotation, allowing any time to adjust the trajectory of the steering or gas. If you're indifferent, this will make stabilization system having besieged the car and align it into a turn. From the point of view of "racer" — an excellent hook, and control, as a simple driver simplicity and security. And another is reliability. “Crossovery” version "khaki" is reinforced with aramid fibers sidewalls that protect from herniation when hitting the curbs and protruding manholes. However, from 2016 Nokian offers a lifetime warranty on all tires Hakkapeliitta Hakka series and — in the case of unintentional damage (e.g., breakdown in the pit), the company will replace the tires on new.

When it comes to tire (and any other) technologies, it is useful to distinguish reality from marketing. We've learned that in advertising brochures even the most insignificant things sometimes interpreted as an incredible advantage. This applies to absolutely everything that can be called "product" and we have learned to ignore marketing noodles on deaf ears. This is commendable, but it is possible to miss something important. With the onset of the first winter tire Hakkapeliitta series of the past 80 years, and during that time technology has leaped forward. Did you know that a modern tire consists of hundreds of elements, and only one rubber compounds it contains more than fifteen?

Driving a loaded Audi RS4 sedan on a winding ring road all this interesting math hiding in a tiny closet in the corner of consciousness, fully involved in the process... not control, and receiving pleasure!

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The combination of dense suspensions, 420-horsepower V8 engine, manual gearbox and a bare ice — an explosive mixture of severity which gives low-profile studded tyres Hakkapeliitta 8.

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All sensations received in the crossovers, there are broadcast with a tenfold power, like a triumphant March. I am in a trance. Can't hear the roaring sound of the eight. Do not pay attention to me removing the camera and display Racelogic.

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I just pressed on the gas, and try as much as possible not to slow down before the turn. Even a little bit, a little more... under a light slap on the brake pedal the nose “er-Eski” stands on the path, and then in a light slide the vehicle passes the turn with almost no loss of speed. Have to disable the ESP, then you can ride sideways in the deep slides the car compliant and understandable, but... all the "drifters" I strongly scolding in front-wheel drive Golf VR6.

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The car has a roll cage and no ESP, but otherwise it is fairly standard — after all, the limited slip differential can be ordered in the showroom. Surprisingly, Golf is my favorite. Compared to the excessively powerful (for my talents) RS-coy, the car is transparent and understandable. Here I am in my element, full of “lohikeitto” — a traditional Finnish creamy soup with salmon. No wonder they say that tests on the ice to help better demonstrate the true character of the car, its strengths and weaknesses. Of course, this also applies to tires, and drivers themselves. Fortunately, the cars are specially prepared for departure on the parapet — there is a metal bumper with towing eyes and underbody protection.

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Preparation of test cars for a polygon did the same company LMS Racing that was preparing a 1200-horsepower RS6 for test driver Janne Nokian Latynina, set in 2013 world speed record on ice — 335.7 km / h

In the real test of the tires, giving vivid emotions drifting in last place in the list of research methods. And the RS4 it comes not in the first place. Is there cars and easier, for example, two brand new sedan Lada Vesta.

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But first prototypes of tyres run on... an Old four-wheel drive van Volkswagen LT. This car-laboratory. Between the two axles is mounted the third, and which set of wheels with the test tires. The axis has an adjustable hydraulic the contact force and the rotation speed that allows to simulate various traffic conditions. Sensor information collected by the computer installed in the cockpit.

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Another unusual device is an off — road van on Mercedes Sprinter chassis with the wheel formula 6x6.

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To drive a slalom track on this Golf Cabrio the first time couldn't one of the journalists. The point is that he had a “mirror” steering gearbox — turn the steering wheel left and the wheels turn to the right.

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The landfill has its own dressing equipment and station maintenance. And another one of the transporters was seen with Audi RS4 is clearly not "civilian" version of the Hakkapeliitta 8 — the spike here is more like "combat".

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Nokian tires with spikes, retractable by pressing the button in the cabin — almost like James bond in "Die, but not now." To production of them — as the moon, and consider it worth it just as an idea, concept, eye to the future.

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Closer to reality (at least European) special R2 winter tires for electric cars the BMW i3. In addition to special rubber compound, these tires feature a unique, dimension — 155/70R19. It helps to reduce rolling resistance by a good 30%, increasing the key for electric vehicle parameter is the range on one filling. The world's first winter tyres tested according to European classification rating of AA, i.e. the highest scores for fuel efficiency and wet grip.

To the question whether the different native Finnish tyre produced at the plant in Russia, the Russian head of the technical support team and work with claims Alexander Parkhomchuk responds with a resounding “no”. The same technology, raw material base — is one. Moreover, launched in 2005 a modern factory in Vsevolozhsk is much more powerful than the production in the city of Nokia in the year of the Russian branch can produce up to 15.5 million tyres, while the Finnish plant is not more than 2.5. So the chance to meet a Russian bus in Europe and the United States are higher than the Finnish bus on the Russian shelves.

In the beginning of the article I talked about the fact that when choosing tires Matti Morry recommended that first of all focus on the operating conditions, but, by and large, is also an important style of riding and experience of the driver. The combination of these factors allows you to confidently drive on snow and studless tires. Anyway, when we cut down the mountain along a narrow track 160 km / h, in the person sitting behind the wheel instructor did not flinch a muscle. Experience a fast ride across the ice from him — like meat in the carcass of an elk. Audi RS5 on non-studded tyres Hakkapeliitta R2 is on track like on rails. The hook with the snow cover here is enhanced by the solid crystalline particles scattered in the thickness of the tread — thus, even wearing tyre does not lose grip properties. But do not forget the words of Matti — in the hands of the average driver studded tires on ice will behave better. The advantages of the friction of the tires, first and foremost is the comfort and noise level.

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What about publicized in the press threads with the manipulation of rubber for tests and presentations? On hearing this question, Matti has made a grave face, and hastily threw 5 dippers of water on the hot stones (it was in the sauna, and we just returned to the steam room after a dip in quickly covered with ice hole). To stay in the steam room was not easy. "Manipulation of the tires? I'll tell you how it was. It's a half-truth. The story started with an interview with our CEO Ari of Lehtoranta, who told a Finnish business publication about the results of our internal audit. The difference between test and production tyres really were. The fact that car magazines often asked us to provide them with the newest tyres on the test again prior to their release in the series, and we went to meet. Sent them the prototype tyre, which was prepared for serial production. I assume that so do other companies. But because sometimes the serial bus in the end, differed from the prototypes on various parameters, the composition of the mixture, we decided to stop this practice. More than a year ago was approved by the internal rules forever ban such practices. So what about the intentional manipulation is incorrect — it was a pre-production bus and we are sure that if you repeat the same comparative test with the serial Nokian tires produced in Russia or Finland, the result will be the same. By the way, many magazines it always did — buy our tyres in the shops. This has not prevented them to show their best performance in the tests.”

The question of when to wait for the new Hakkapeliitta 9, Matti smiled and answered without hesitation. "Immediately after she will be ready!" On the hot stones flew another portion of water. Burned by steam, and I hastily covered his face with his hands. Yes, even in the frozen hell is hot!

Text and photo by Artem Achkasov

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Kolobator 07.08.19

I have 4 season go to the village on the Russian R15 tires Viatti, and it all or how much! :)
Grip great in corners too, fails.
Why pay more? :)
Now season 2 purely in the city on R17 Hankook K112,also super rubber.
Yes a little noisy, but excellent grip and aquaplaning on top!
Father rides on Nokian Hakka.I think it's stupid to overpay for the brand!
And so, ordinary rubber.

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AndreyIlim 07.08.19

This winter I bought after the Japanese Velcro 2 wheels on each 3000r, 2012 true, but made in Germany, Continentali Ice Contact and ofigel))) super, not rubber) gave her a full test drive in the winter consisted of side bends, skidded, slowed sharply throughout the winter) have lost 5 studs on the wheel.
Summer Nokian Hakka green quiet soft) season 4 will roll) where the rubber has worn off for the season), the father took the Nokian Nordman he was surprised how well the summer is out and it has not faded nearly) Kordianta he had for two years:)

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Goodkorch 07.08.19

Always go

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LOTUS78 07.08.19

Nokian castle horas.Summer Nokian Pirelli SMA.Until satisfied.Odin minus that for Volvo XC90 front of tagili and rezni more than 25-30 tis. not hvatat.

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

oands

The nature of my seminars told me about Nokian Ivalo))I'd love to have been there to!
Now about tires...Aramid useless against sharp objects.Over the winter 2 the side cut!
Otherwise very happy!Ice rowing on the rear wheel drive on any icy hill.The permeability of snow on the 5.
Despite all the advantages, the more these tires will not take!The price is not justified!Easy to damage!
The choice is from:Dunlop ice touch, Goodyear ultra grip ice Arctic, Dunlop ice winter 02!

This is a lifetime guarantee, replacing the tyre on a new and FSE!

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Zlango

Hakka ended on a model 4

Don't tell me you skated 8 this winter, very satisfied.

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

neon416

Nice try, Nokia. But you went to the forest...

PS On Haqq LT2 (which is Snowie hernias) extended warranty does not apply, only through the examination. That's weird, huh?)))

Nokia is phones, for starters. Where there is hernia snova?)))

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Well, well, good luck)))

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Dmitriy1967 07.08.19

No, on the couch, I only dream of yesterday, 15 hours of driving spent(driver work).Answering the question: no, "Nitsche". BelAZ weighs 200 ! times more than the Q7,that he, at 60, had to brake 2 kilometers? Now, in summer, on the contrary, Audi brakes 2 times faster Grants(her brakes in Stoke shitty).for each machine, its parameters brake on their speed and mass.And the braking distance is all about the same, and trucks do not slow down because it's always on bald or summer tires and domosat they usually have 2-3 wheels, well, sometimes, 4.)). Well, the quality of the Haqq less, but that's the very thin-walled design, the protector with only three lamelame at the patch(my Bridge 6 of them), almost invisible side hook(rib) are questionable, confirmed two years of operation.

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Anything that Ку7 2 times weighs more and the wheelbase is longer?))) Chelyabinsk sofa expert)))

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Dmitriy1967 07.08.19

From Chelyabinsk adovada(you can tell even Castrocaro) on the Grant Bridge shorter braking distance in 2 ! Times than the Q7 on Хакке7(my office).The side hooks are missing, the ass enters a turn at 40 km\h, are so smooth, soft 7 and 8,it is possible with them instead of Bab to sleep, and ride still need other tires.

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

dlinomer58

Cho sense.on tests alone shinyu sale other.Advertising only.and that's all.

Penza ladavac — sofa specialist tyre industry))) Funny)))

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Dmitriy1967 07.08.19

I only write about what he long went.Of course, everyone has their own way.

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Year skated 8 and troubles did not know. Everyone will decide for themselves with the choice of rubber. You can even about spike not the spike to argue, and to sense zero.

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Dmitriy1967 07.08.19

GreySharkDimas

Thank you, mnogabukav, but read in one breath. As you might expect, many sracha and haters.
He worked on the Nokian engineer about the quality and I can say that the production of one of the most modern in Europe. Come again on a tour of the factory)))
Winter tires always recommend and all summer I will not lie, was not very early, but every year better and better.
All smooth roads!

And with each new Hakka her braking distance by 5 meters shorter and shorter.Gee. 4 and 5 were great, 7And 8 — tires for suicide.

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hekto21 07.08.19

what would you spectra is not shared, one hell remained simple OTK-person and nifiga you can not do, except to call the motorists to imposing their opinions.

one thing I can't understand why in any city in the MSK people norms communicate, sales in the MSC (real Muscovites), and only in St. Petersburg and Leningrad behave as if the navel of the earth, and still can't accept the fact that they are the same province as Tver or eagle, but no, they are sales come up with names like "cultural capital", although there gulkin nose?

goodbye, you are our educated, QUALITY ENGINEER ! )))))
the conversation is not interesting, maybe, to a specific question, the answer will not wait for anyone(you don't know him) ))))

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Yeah, it amused me))) Come on Obama here plaiting))) bye, divan moskalskaya expert))) in the future, TCI controller and I are two different positions. It's time to grow out of the Soviet pants with a Soviet mentality. Quality engineers also shared by the spectrum of tasks and operations. But who am I kidding? And why? Good luck on Finnish "new" tire! Be kind and well-mannered, Metropolitan man))) PS. Finnish with one N, but the Finns with two NN, ignorant)))

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hekto21 07.08.19

if you're so "high-class specialist", quality engineer(in the vernacular : the controller TCI), probably also with higher education))), tell me what you did to Hakkapelitta(at the request of the workers wrote completely) inferior to the quality of actual Finnish hakkapelitta (1-4) and collapsed in one season?(like 5-8) because the winters were actually milder and the roads are much better than in the 90s! (although you're remember on the bus comfortably drove my mom's hands)
rather I will answer for thee )))) you haven't made and control the quality of that which you say and just piss in the ears of the public and use their discounts on new rubber every season. even if you gave it for free, and in this case, any jealousy I had not been and all because before rubber could be 3-5 seasons, and now with such" experts", barely spring and next season, in the snow, to put it simply dangerous.
early engineers (real) "done" tires and cars, and now vociferous marketers ...

PS: yeah, of course no different Nitsche ))))) here only to LUKOIL Finnish AI-95 can drive 420 km is not saving and filling stations in St. Petersburg-98 =max 295км with shooting and burning "cheque" ... (probably the countryman has taught you(like half the country) believe in the best, and to write into the ears of others)

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

hekto21

Hakka is short, the "expert" here you are, and the article "the left"(I hope the prize will give for the Il is another discount ), but at the expense of the Finnish welding = so it is not the award I was given, and the FINNS THEMSELVES! and if on your nose Ile SPb you th something not seen, it does not mean that it does not exist . (made in Russia — how would you the quality is not watched will be different, maybe, initially it is necessary to make of good material, and not from the city)
PS: the mileage on the roads of the Russian Federation and over, I have enough, and I speak solely on my experience.
zyzy: in the yard grandfather goes 12th year on the thorns - so he has no ship has not departed with his "racing" speed of 40 km\h )))))

hakkapelitta over, after the production was in Russia (IMHO)
it would something to envy))) Sam chase several times to the knife and can buy standards oil мобил1 (which really differs from the ones sold in Russia), and of course winter tires(not made from the Russian, with Russian OTK) ))))) and on account of the early names: I went on it when she was still called nokia, then phone call))

Hakka is summer tires, at least briefly, though long, is not a shame))) And hakkapelitta is short for Hakkapeliitta and it's winter rubber, sofa expert)))

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Nerd, before even written Made by Nokian Tyres, without specifying the country of origin. It is then under Russian law, it became necessary to write to the manufacturer. Bus from Nokia and SPb do not differ in the rubber compound recipe, recipe Assembly, and vulcanization recipe, and you continue to believe that everything Russian is crap, the patriot))) I say, ride at least kitaiskoi rubber. Every Sandpiper praises its swamp. The argument here is useless, the tests, the dry figures and the facts themselves say about everything and everyone will decide where he will go, by voting with its wallet.

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hekto21 07.08.19

Hakka is short, the "expert" here you are, and the article "the left"(I hope the prize will give for the Il is another discount ), but at the expense of the Finnish welding = so it is not the award I was given, and the FINNS THEMSELVES! and if on your nose Ile SPb you th something not seen, it does not mean that it does not exist . (made in Russia — how would you the quality is not watched will be different, maybe, initially it is necessary to make of good material, and not from the city)
PS: the mileage on the roads of the Russian Federation and over, I have enough, and I speak solely on my experience.
zyzy: in the yard grandfather goes 12th year on the thorns - so he has no ship has not departed with his "racing" speed of 40 km\h )))))

hakkapelitta over, after the production was in Russia (IMHO)
it would something to envy))) Sam chase several times to the knife and can buy standards oil мобил1 (which really differs from the ones sold in Russia), and of course winter tires(not made from the Russian, with Russian OTK) ))))) and on account of the early names: I went on it when she was still called nokia, then phone call))

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

No one's gonna force you to buy them))) Hakka is an early name summer tires, and Hakkapeliitta is a winter series and should not be confused with expert))) the Spikes out of your friends? Then it is clear))) I have 3 HKPL HKPL has reached 8, 2-3 thorn leading from the front tires is normal. Buy and then welded the protector, then don't be surprised stratification and separation of the tread. I don't spodvigaet to buy anything, even ride on Omskshina, your own business. But somehow the Nokian first in all the winter tests. For market value I would have thought to take or not, but I can do 2 times a year to take a set of winter/summer with 50-60% discount, so envious silence)))

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hekto21 07.08.19

yeah, cool is khaki, but Zenner insane and spikes out at once, not that previously the Hakka 2-3.
easier and cheaper to buy in the same Finca restored resu way company(private) No. 1 in the Finke and the medal has a certificate, there is a protector in the Hakka 3 and the spikes don't fly

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

Thank you, mnogabukav, but read in one breath. As you might expect, many sracha and haters.
He worked on the Nokian engineer about the quality and I can say that the production of one of the most modern in Europe. Come again on a tour of the factory)))
Winter tires always recommend and all summer I will not lie, was not very early, but every year better and better.
All smooth roads!

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Sorikovod 07.08.19

awesome !

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kostzol 07.08.19

All the details and correctly.Well done, keep it up.Will be waiting on you, what is new.Signature.Nokian tyres have always been cool.There are many other good producers, but just annoying chdapest responses to the article that is shit etc, people who themselves are not able to ride, and bought a cool tire start to show off on the track, like I'm cool and in the end, the car is shit, tyres are shit, etc, etc. well, the article is beautiful and informative.Always loved the Nokian, if honor once saved a life and me and two passengers.Good luck to you.

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AFSD 07.08.19

Pictures of saunas is not enough, and so good painted, just intrigued.

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Maks76 07.08.19

thank you all sooo readable and informative.pictures pleased...what protection bumpers, wow! imagine such as much wanted, especially as the audi but yellow:)))

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denisvv 07.08.19

Totally agree, the price is absolutely inadequate, especially on the latest models.
For city traffic it is better to take Korea (Hankook or Kumho) for the price of three(!) times cheaper.

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kolejio 07.08.19

Rubber "about," and it seriously went on the 4th and 5th hack before, acted on them in rally sprints and rallies for Amateurs, it's a great season in lightweight rolls without loss, bought a Toyota Camry, the car was "sick" in the tubes intact, never goes for the season 50% of spikes were set out... I was in shock from the 4 and 5 their 85% remained until the thickness is "thin rubber". while in the field to clean the snow let them feel anything, the problem is that on public roads, and even in Russia very different conditions. PS from personal experience — strongly recommend, the more that rubber is very expensive, before it was even justified by the quality, and now it is not.

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Ec0Tech 07.08.19

I want :(

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Carbonmlc 07.08.19

doogi aren't that clean... from us.

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hekto21 07.08.19

Shem6061

Thank you, the article lively and interesting. The dimensions of the landfill surprise.

then the Dmitrovsky polygon you enter in shock, maybe there is something that could come up around the world, or not to meet at all, maybe in the 45+ degree ascent you will hardly climb and descend even more, and in water from 1.5 m deep are unlikely to go, and on basalt coating, you can experience winter skid 28+

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

For hekto921, made me in emergencies (kindergarten): Sorry, where I said I'm from the cultural capital, the navel you ours?))) I'm actually from Belarus, from the glorious hero-city of Bobruisk (waiting for stupid jokes about it). And there I also worked at Belshina, and studied chemist in the tire industry, so believe me, not just here unhitch. Specifically my task is to combat emerging marriage, prevention and non-receipt of defective tires to the warehouse and to the consumer. For the composition of the mixtures, component profiles, vulcanising and even the studding other people respond. And your Etchnicke is a visual inspectors, who check the tires visually and they are irrelevant to the quality Department do not have. Shake the Soviet dust and dust, Wake up, the navel of Russia)))

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GreySharkDimas 07.08.19

*For hekto21

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AudiBOSE 07.08.19

what a pretty inflated rska

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peredoZZZ-GT 07.08.19

what? any manufacturer on their own tests will tell, my rubber the best! only we should always remember when there is a head on his shoulders, though superduperman spikes put, do anything... they still will not help the fool...

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sscdimon 07.08.19

Also don't understand "luxbet" of the brand. I have now studding hakkapeliitta 7 on the Lancer. Tires as the tires. There are better, not to mention the obvious overvaluation.

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BezXroma 07.08.19

never buy Nokian, never buy studded tires! tired dizbalans and hundreds of grams of garlands weights! хака8 made in Rushen is not balanced perfectly.

p.s. previously only rode on Nokian all have recommended, and recommend as the most safe and dolgozhdannaya the thorn

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ZEDger 07.08.19

experience has shown that Nokian (and budget) is the shit, overpriced repair with similar others brands, which showed not only the cost is lower, but the comfort and reliability during operation.
and so — for the article, thanks.

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serg-kardan 07.08.19

I read where that after -36 and then spikes hard procreate ice. Don't know true or not

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trofim109 07.08.19

How else to contain the landfill and pay for these articles? The Finns made good wheels, came up with a creative and people hawala. Live in Krasnoyarsk 15 years/experience nor the times had any idea about buying the spikes always went to Korean Velcro and could write such fantastic reviews about the grip. Just for safe riding you need a sober head (in all senses) and not rely on super tire

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serg-kardan 07.08.19

Cool off the topic, like we are nothing to do with it)))), about the scandal with the tests. Rubber winter they are good, but there is nothing worse in all characteristics. That's the current price tag because this horse at Nokia.

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aka-mazai 07.08.19

I wish something like that to make yourself... no photos below detailed, can similar ?!

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artemspec 07.08.19

Yes, with fasteners to the body

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aka-mazai 07.08.19

protection bumpers interesting... metal?!

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Smacky 07.08.19

We have Latvia something like((

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anton404 07.08.19

Do not understand how people in one season rubber comes kirdyk. I have hakkapelitta 8, skated 2 full seasons.Of course, some spikes were set out, with each wheel pieces 8 max. Car мазда3, the drive is very active, there was a lot of driving on pure asphalt in winter C14 15 year

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DenIsLove 07.08.19

Kaef !))

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Temy4 07.08.19

Shit, this is your Hakkapeliitta 8.
At Continental ContiIceContact with thorn 2013 lateral and longitudinal grip of the beam .

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Ferrapont 07.08.19

Wrote in BJ, but will repeat here. I went to the Hakka 8 thought could not be better. And here already the second year on the Bear LXIN 2+, and about Nokian remember as a nightmare! The Finns stopped making the best tires, high average, but with a horse's price tag.

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DoctorTomis 07.08.19

The is just fire! Much burning!

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somebody 07.08.19

and a lot of CV joints you replaced the 2107?
mirdvermyach)))))

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DoctorTomis 07.08.19

Sorry, have to repeat what I wrote in another post:
Adding my 5 cents ))) My acquaintance with the Hakka began back in 1998 when I got my license and bought yourself a fancy VAZ 2107 color ivory, in order to learn to drive ), Or Vice versa? In short... any of this got that I bought ) I do Not remember already ) This ivory shamelessly rottenness, stalling and wouldn't start in the morning after night Parking ), But I already knew that road safety is paramount and even if the morning would not start, it is necessary to stand firmly gripping the ice! ) And this idea has forced me to buy Hakkapelitta. Rubber was definitely not studded, but what model I do not remember )
So I drove it a couple of seasons and sold the car. I do not remember any stability in the turns, no stability, nothing! I only remember that she was losing pieces of itself. Really. as you take a piece of chocolate and break off, so Hakka broke itself. Once again driving the car on a lift, so something to lubricate or to replace the joint after a week of use ) I saw that my tires have lost just pieces of the tread. They were broken off. It introduced me into a stupor...
Many years have passed... have Traveled on many cars and many tires. Now I have Gislaved Nord Frost 5. Rubber 9 years ) 90% of the spikes in place. Protector virtually no easterly. Total mileage this Gislaved thousand 20. (The Hakka were running for a couple of seasons less than 2 times.) I understand that it should be changed. Just because of your age and condition. In the winter I am a little ride. The question is if I'll take a New Haqq? I honestly don't know. Still, those memories... Goodyear Arctic Ice seems to me more reasonable choice for me personally... I would Take the new Gislaved, Gislaved but now it's continental, as I understand it... And that I'm not interested. Goodyear is cheaper and according to tests perfectly and is my dimension in Poland but not in Russia ) price: Goodyear on the manufacturer's website in the online store — 3640 for today. Hakkapelitta 8 — 4940 in Nordman (Site of Nokian Tyres from the shop at the moment why it does not work for me). The difference in price — 1300 per piece. For kit — 5200 ) All the above is purely my point of view.
Damn... How many letters turned out...