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AlekseyKlimov
I do not agree. The photo shows a cut tire "straightened" to measure. I straighten it I can't because it is collected, so "lick"
nothing they were not rastrelyali.
These samples sliced the cake to show and not the width to measure.
You wrote that from joint to joint and Mer so - on projection.
The wheel diameter you also wrapping the tape measure will be measured?
Another fool — to measure the perimeter of the roulette is even in kindergarten the teachers did not come up.
How I imagined — bus width is measured not at the tread and in the sidewall (like the picture on the link below size).
wiki.zr.ru/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D...D1%8B_Logan_2005_30-1.jpg
But the details and measurements never go.
Blea. 289 comments for 3 months. I'm sorry, but I couldn't read them all.
Go to the website of the manufacturer normal toyotire.ru selected ANY section, select ANY model, open. Under the picture there is a button links, one of them is the SPECIFICATION.
Probably, you will be surprised to learn that, for example, is a 205/55/16 SIZE. And the size of it, Toyo, often equal to 213 mm
Dmitriy1967
Winter Hakka 7 and 8 tires for suicide, which they measured.
here in the comments www.drive2.ru/b/2833841/?...age=1#a452252223322228445 equipment quality tell, and he thinks that 7-8 simply perfection ;)
With any can not, with good will, high will razberemsa, but that pieces of it broke...
Max-i
Here hitting on Haku 7 is not realized, excellent rubber, the top five were three years skated.
www.drive2.ru/l/468539838820254187/
So I think -- I'm on five Russian-made front-wheel drive pokuse feel very good in all winter conditions, not recorded without my knowledge, the measure stalled in the food and where the absolute majority of the Soaps (there is such nasty weather — ice, it's not the ice is when the snow is compacted to a state of glass at a certain temperature and humidity). Over the winter needed help only when laid on the bottom and were across the icy track.
Dmitriy1967
Beha five in the winter?Yes, even on the X7? Champion drift, the cooler can only be the Volga on bald tires.
Maybe you caught the left of the hack what ever, I have not experienced with it
Beha five in the winter?Yes, even on the X7? Champion drift, the cooler can only be the Volga on bald tires.
Dmitriy1967
Winter Hakka 7 and 8 tires for suicide, which they measured.
Here hitting on Haku 7 is not realized, excellent rubber, the top five were three years skated.
Dmitriy1967
I two winters riding 2 Q7 hakami 7 and 8 (working machine). I had all the excitement this stuff makes, advertises and promotes(type test all better).On Packed snow is really like a cow on ice, the back end fishtailing while cornering at 40 km / h just For fun I measured the stopping distance (the rolled snow, 70km/h, brake floors) RES. 30 meters.On the same day Grant, on the same plot(on the rubber bridge 195/60.) the result is 12 meters. 2 times ! Yes, even to the touch eight smooth like kimono geisha, the side hooks at almost there.If you will not get it, then you are lucky or you are the driver sverhkategorijnye.
All the way around. I rolled on the bridge 7000 the studding, so I will say that it is much worse than the Nokian, bridge much worse than the brake, and slipping at every stoplight tired. To Nokian, this is not all perfect. And it's all on the same machine.
Da i ja ezdil na novoy BMW 5 . zadneprivod. Ledjanoy v doroge Na povorote ona sama sbrasyvaet gaz i komp pishet : ehat nevozmozgno, kolesa spustili. A na Q7 sootnoschenie ploschyadi pjatna kontakta k v 2 raza masse mensche chem u Lada.(schirina kolesa 255mm. ves 2300, a u lada 205mm., a ves 1100). poetomu i tormozit medlenno.weiksme
Dmitriy1967
I two winters riding 2 Q7 hakami 7 and 8 (working machine). I had all the excitement this stuff makes, advertises and promotes(type test all better).On Packed snow is really like a cow on ice, the back end fishtailing while cornering at 40 km / h just For fun I measured the stopping distance (the rolled snow, 70km/h, brake floors) RES. 30 meters.On the same day Grant, on the same plot(on the rubber bridge 195/60.) the result is 12 meters. 2 times ! Yes, even to the touch eight smooth like kimono geisha, the side hooks at almost there.If you will not get it, then you are lucky or you are the driver sverhkategorijnye.
Q7=2000+ kg, awd, 60% Rear!
Vaz=1000+kg, fwd!U ladi abs jest?
I etim ne ja hocu cto skazat Hakka ocen horosaja pokriska a lis to cto ssravneniene korektno. Jesli vmesto Q7 BMW bila bi to efekt na povorote skolzkom ese bi bil inace
IOANNNegrozznyi
Here are the drivers of the trucks and ask. How many Internet videos with accidents due to insufficient distance for trucks.
I'm a truck driver and the truck in serviceable brake system ( kalodki, disks brake, air system, abs ) and normal rubber brakes no worse than the car believe me naslovo, of course, if it not to overload twice!
no one is saying that the truck just as the car slows. But when comparing grants and Q7 — normal comparison. From Q7 more the diameter of the wheels, respectively, the contact patch. The weight there not as different as the trucks and cars.
And most importantly: live with full of accidents — Yes, I agree. And one wagon of these videos, the authors of the video, check for the existence of a fully working brake system?! With full working pressure, with normal pads. With normal tires, including!
Here are the drivers of the trucks and ask. How many Internet videos with accidents due to insufficient distance for trucks.
IOANNNegrozznyi
When talking about ку7, then compare with grantee makes no sense, maybe the weight is different in 2 times, and for winter it is a lot of change.
Your car problems are not felt (can merit auto) and 4 of the season spikes almost not flew, but objectively, compare it is impossible with anything. Even with the previous cars on continental, although on the level of feelings Conti is better.
weight, except that, inertia pushes the car forward, increasing braking distance — he still pushes the wheels to the road покрsnb. — reducing the braking distance. So the truck is able to brake quite well, with brakes, of course!
BearGreen
I laughed heartily))) Thank you) But you are right that weight doesn't matter! And about this opinion about the tires, I think it is a little not objective... that market is now saturated with fakes not to mention how much pressure who shakes. If it was bad it would simply not bought, and certainly the demand is high and the price tag is not small))) the script: in winter, only the spikes of respect!))
Yes, they explain to them a ton at a speed of 60km/h will have the same braking distance as 60 tonnes)) the funniest.
Well, let me put in another way; the bike at speed 67 braking distance 5 meters.BelAZ (very fancy) loaded weighs 470 tons.max. speed 67 km/h And he would inhibited 11 km., if his braking would engage the wheels of the motorcycle and load on the road 200kg.But he wheels with a two-story house and they put pressure on the ground at 120 tons each.and so it will brake well, of course not like a motorcycle, but in 15-20 metres(if the course does not turn over). Now in the summer of Q7 brakes faster than Grant, and in the winter two times slower, because of Hakkapelitta 8 invented, that more Russians killed.
Well, in your example there is no such parameter as speed, 200 pound bike with 200 km/h fast to stop, but the tractor rocket 60 tons, with the same speed and may be all of 3 miles trying to stop)
Weight matters I guess, in that case, if the same vehicle is empty or overloaded in the winter or in the rain, or on dirty rough roads plus options rubber inosinate and resistance to overheating pads and other factors.You don't want to say that vestibuloplasty motorcycle will slow down например10 meters, and the tractor rocket 60 tons 3 km, he's, like 300 times harder.Here ships this correlation almost certainly, there hardness adhesion water by weight is practically independent, until recently, large ships slowed to 30 kilometers(it's now started to do all sorts of screws on the sides).In General, drive the grain, and everything will be OK.
Dmitriy1967
The weight of the car should not affect the braking distance.Loaded the truck (if it brake smoothly all the wheels, not the usual 2 or 3) will have the braking distance not more than Geomatica. In the above example, the contact patch of Grants in relation to its mass is much greater than Q7,and therefore inhibits better.Well, the Hakka, you can go with the mind(I drove), not the worst, but this still tontolaba sidewall(a little revolo — emission, a little curb — hole).The best, where I went, this Japanese evil studded Bridgestone(not Velcro), slightly stiff, but 100% sure. Well, you smooth roads!
I laughed heartily))) Thank you) But you are right that weight doesn't matter! And about this opinion about the tires, I think it is a little not objective... that market is now saturated with fakes not to mention how much pressure who shakes. If it was bad it would simply not bought, and certainly the demand is high and the price tag is not small))) the script: in winter, only the spikes of respect!))
If it comes to that : even two cars, released one after another can be quite different for acceleration and braking, as far as reliability even more so.One then is constantly on the diagnostics and the other as a tough to kill, goes and goes.
IOANNNegrozznyi
Example with a wagon and a Matiz from a parallel reality)))) ask about stopping distance dalnoboev, he will tell you how many Matiz him to move before settling.
Yes, again, and you ask any dalnoboev — he's doing a real inspection or buys tehtaan along with insurance for 1500-2000 rubles?That's why "no"
Well, it's on the Tartar or quite killed 30-year-old. The vehicle normally slows down, even black stripes is not, if the brakes are perfect.The laws of physics are equally valid on trucks and motorcycles, and structurally, all the TS have roughly the same short braking distance under the same conditions.
Example with a wagon and a Matiz from a parallel reality)))) ask about stopping distance dalnoboev, he will tell you how many Matiz him to move before settling.
The weight of the car should not affect the braking distance.Loaded the truck (if it brake smoothly all the wheels, not the usual 2 or 3) will have the braking distance not more than Geomatica. In the above example, the contact patch of Grants in relation to its mass is much greater than Q7,and therefore inhibits better.Well, the Hakka, you can go with the mind(I drove), not the worst, but this still tontolaba sidewall(a little revolo — emission, a little curb — hole).The best, where I went, this Japanese evil studded Bridgestone(not Velcro), slightly stiff, but 100% sure. Well, you smooth roads!
When talking about ку7, then compare with grantee makes no sense, maybe the weight is different in 2 times, and for winter it is a lot of change.
Your car problems are not felt (can merit auto) and 4 of the season spikes almost not flew, but objectively, compare it is impossible with anything. Even with the previous cars on continental, although on the level of feelings Conti is better.
I two winters riding 2 Q7 hakami 7 and 8 (working machine). I had all the excitement this stuff makes, advertises and promotes(type test all better).On Packed snow is really like a cow on ice, the back end fishtailing while cornering at 40 km / h just For fun I measured the stopping distance (the rolled snow, 70km/h, brake floors) RES. 30 meters.On the same day Grant, on the same plot(on the rubber bridge 195/60.) the result is 12 meters. 2 times ! Yes, even to the touch eight smooth like kimono geisha, the side hooks at almost there.If you will not get it, then you are lucky or you are the driver sverhkategorijnye.
Choyta?))) Excuse me, but I can not resist — and Lada Granta for those who breathes security from birth?
SRL was measured incorrectly ! not who roulette do not bend ! to correct the article ! don't write this nonsense ! Yes, measure up to gain tread but straight !
The tyre is not inflatable ball in her cord is, it is not stretched, the contact area increases the load of the car. If 2 tires inflated at 1 ATM and 2, respectively, but not to load the shot, the contact patch will be the same for them. And tried on the author all you want, but not the width. You did not say that the distance around the equator at 180 degrees longitude is the width of the earth — its width is the diameter, and the distance to America on its surface is measured. Kindergarten.
And you can, distance to America directly measure, through the center of the Earth, or still on the surface?So the author tried a tape measure to measure the width of the contact patch, of course, easier and more accurate to measure the imprint on the soil or snow under a standard load and temperature.And manufacturers with the same size of the real width at all different, from motorcycles sports tires are generally round, pumped more, and go to a width of 2 cm Width is not the first factor for the high quality traction, other important, so more or less, anyway, why do it at all measure.
It's not about bending the tape measure. You can, measuring tape Apple will turn and say what was the diameter? There is a 3.5 cm out from the bend to the edge of the tread. View that sent the manufacturers, they are clearly not as measured.
The captain pilot Kostyankova also probably a slide rule formula the path is paved, but can in Google maps sailed(they also do not the gym teachers came up).)) If the roulette wheel is bent and tightly hugs the surface — why not? Well, there is the error of 1-2mm, duck tea is not a space ship designed.Then advise the tailor to measure the women Asses odometer or even what kind of laser for example.
Have to measure it in projection on a plane but not so flexible rule bending it. Wonderful humanitarians
Thank you for looking, read the comments.Many of the same opinions as me, like "the scandal of rigging the tests in Finland", why once again srach breed.
To the question "what is Hakka?" type response — it often happens.Personally, I have had nearly so.
I understand that, after six months and heaps of comments refuting the author still believes he is right?))how cute
... In the "outer" wheel diameter = more affected by the air Pressure in the tire.
Most work done = THANK you and good LUCK
measurements from the series: "the desired result is obtained", and I would like to correct ...
vsechetko
265 7.5 W?
well, you fiends
There is a full protector, not 50%, it is even 7" 265-I'll stand perfectly.
On the first and second photo the width measurement done correctly (a metal line), but you roulette is clearly too much was measured, as was measured not by "direct".
the diameter of the disk — not from edge to edge (outer circumference), and regarding the planting of rubber (on the next "rim"). 16" physically in the diameter of the circle will be almost 17"
and roulette when semere of width along the entire length protectornoe part, and from the tangent from the intersection. The measurement you have shown on the example of metal tape ON the CUT, and you roulette hugged the tread part...
Moreover, your technology of measurement, tread wear, height will change the width of the tyre... :)))
I.e., when the tread will be 5 mm instead of 10 mm, a width measured in a your technology will be 10 mm less nonsense the same...
that is, the error 1cm roulette is the norm?:) can measurement still has an error from the point of view of the method of measurement?
Yes, how are you?
How much more this post will be an eyesore?
All have already chewed it, but no... we still see this nonsense!
Admins, but you already be people! Fix this app please!
The width of each tire manufacturer is different, dunno why, where are the standards? For example, one grant in the family Nordman 5 185*65*14 and on the other the grant of Pirelli ice zero 175*65*14 and all this economy of the same width.
From different brands it is measured on a different
Some of it is the contact patch, some the widest part
apparently it is because winter 225 I barely got into the trunk, and summer 235 hanging out there)
Solert
Cool tires. Through the snow-ice rod like a tank:)))
the same rubber, and for the price of 2015 took her 3550 per bottle
On my second car, Pirelli formula ice. The other will not change!:))) At first the ix-35 in the sale, all the spikes were in place, three seasons.
and on dry asphalt, there was a good car. Balo that was 175 and norms that sales times had with these 175 to 80 ottormozitsya and norms, rubber and brake otrabotali 100% I was pissed, but happy. And ice-snow in General as king of the road
AlekseyKlimov
and Pirelli's by the way much more claimed
I also noticed that the summer Kama and winter 235/55/17 Pirelli with the same parameters differ a lot. Pirelli much wider.
from different manufacturers have different settings(sizes)even if the size is the same
a week ago I bought a replacement punched the studding 5 Nordman, gave 3200. And yesterday saw the Tape kordiant the same size as the studding — 185/65/15 2800
some sort of garbage, when we were looking for 10-12 cords can be found, and Nokian 26 cost per kit nifigovymi the difference
VictorZh
kordiant — it is not rubber. If there was a test where this D. mo that showed — it means fake)
compared kordiant and Nokian, I would not say that the cords are crap, normal rubber, for the money is great, but the Nokian is better but much more expensive.
kordiant — it is not rubber. If there was a test where this D. mo that showed — it means fake)
on tires Nokian))is almost one to one with Cordiant snow CROs, although the cords in the test itself showed
Those who are interested in a hook of little concern as measured, there is an important actual contact, and some manufacturers make it much narrower than stated in width, although if you follow the data measurements, can be there OK)
And what kind of pictures? Where is the explanation? Why on the one hand you measure from the welding line of the rubber, and on the other side finally nipoymi what happens? Or photo rubber 274/65/16? Why the line was put on the cut? This game is kind of like "guess that picture"?
borletti
Come to me in BJ ), I will tell you everything about the tires and about the width of www.drive2.ru/l/463709959117340791/
Now this crap you wrote... just ...
borletti
Come to me in BJ ), I will tell you everything about the tires and about the width of www.drive2.ru/l/463709959117340791/
Where infa about the width?
and where there is that told ? only a photo and decided to put on the data bus . and that's all !
Come to me in BJ ), I will tell you everything about the tires and about the width of www.drive2.ru/l/463709959117340791/
You have continental?) my father at mercy are contiki 235/65/17. If you do not forget - died.
Rizvan
This means marketing, only Continental match.
Do not match. In 265/65-17 245/65 really intended
and mud tires-there is generally a pipe. two different manufacturer with the same size on the sidewall - but in fact the difference is huge and the width and diameter.