Now a full-fledged the thrill of winter use Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
06.01.2016
Well, it's been almost two months since was published the record, which bore the title "first impressions..."
The first new year's week in the Moscow region gave full reason to add a record on the rubber with the information exactly as on WINTER.
Will try to be brief. Who wants to read long, when the celebration, joy and hopefully a good mood?!)))
At the end of December and beginning of January in Moscow and the Moscow region were all road conditions, to estimate this model: on dry ice and asphalt, slush, snow drifts on the track and drifts in the yards this winter.
So — the rubber is very worthy and confident to cope with all of these "adversities"!
Very high rebukest as on slush and dry snow cover and dense inking. Excellently copes with snow Kiddle on the track when rebuilding at high speed without losing stability. All the winter coverings provides decent handling and confident braking. Dry ice works out "good with a small minus". Melt the ice, covered with a water film, and the powdered snow of course weaker than the pop, stability and ABS let me know about his presence in the car. The motion and deceleration are provided with predictable, provided an adequate choice of speed and the presence of a head on their shoulders.
In General, my purely personal assessment of rubber for the behavior (on my car):
in asphalt and snow conditions, "solid 5"
in the ice disciplines — "4-"
Overall — very good winter tires, not only for the city but for highway operation under different road conditions and situations.
With full confidence I can say that very happy with my choice and
Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 — full winter tires!
All with the past and coming holidays and let the winter road for all of us to be without unpleasant surprises!
10.11.2015 first impressions...
Welcome all drivescan or drivers for that matter!
To prevent possible arguments about the validity/invalidity of my conclusions immediately say that am fully aware of the actual weather conditions prevailing in Moscow last weekend, and the short duration of use winter tires, but I want to share first impressions from two days in advance last spring purchased winter Velcro Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2!
In a festive day, November 3, with my friend HerSh conducted works on replacement summer tires for winter on two cars. As with the help of an assistant we did here:
www.drive2.ru/l/8124977/?...3514635&page=0#a143514635
Saturday and Sunday was the first trip to Moscow and the region on new winter tires.
Weather and road conditions are not suitable for a full test of winter tires, because it was completely dry and just above zero degrees, so will share impressions of operation of the asphalt rubber within the metropolis. After the winter for Moscow, it is often these conditions are typical, though the snow/snow, rain, and ice of course also have a place to be and as always, suddenly.
One of the advantages of the rubber (again, in the above-described conditions!) with full confidence I can say the following:
absolute silence at all speeds and asphalt of any quality;
— very good directional stability and handling without delay, voyages, blockages in the turns, a complete lack of sensitivity of rut;
— very good braking it on the pavement;
— a very comfortable feeling from driving a car wearing this rubber overall.
Additionally, you may note the high quality rubber and good balancesheet exactly my kit, and also forms, very pleasant to my taste and suitable to the appearance fora.
Not to say that cons, and the most characteristic features of the rubber (so to speak the reverse of the medal), mainly stemming from its advantages:
— quite heavy;
— very rigid sidewall that, in General, seems like tough enough for winter tires.
These findings made me absolutely subjective and tailored exactly to my requirements and expectations from the winter Velcro.
For his driving when he was exploited in the winter Gislaved (spikes), Nokian (without studs), Michelin (without thorns), Goodyear (without the spikes). A staunch fan of Velcro. The previous car used Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D, which I thought quite sufficient for urban use family car given its capabilities and purposes.
Understand that the main purpose of winter tires is to ensure safe movement on snow-covered, icy or even snow-mud coatings so described is not a full review or a recommendation to buy rubber Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2, and is purely subjective informational purposes for those who may be wondering how it behaves and feels this model on dry and clean asphalt. Because either way, almost everyone can encounter the above road conditions, but for someone they are not rare.
As the operation will add account information about the behavior of rubber in other, more normal conditions, and their insights about Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 as winter tires.
Thanks for reading my notes! Ready to answer the questions in the framework of what managed to find out myself.
PS: all the sensations and insights are purely subjective and are only mine, not for nothing, not expect!
pnvhome
Two winters in the bridge, the WS-60 was given to understand that more than ever the bridge will not buy, 34 kordiant was on the x gudger
so it's an ancient rubber at all. how to buy tires which have 15 years and try to talk about her qualities by modern standards )
Two winters in the bridge, the WS-60 was given to understand that more than ever the bridge will not buy, 34 kordiant was on the x gudger
Riding on such tires Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 November 2014 then she just appeared.Very, very much! The all-wheel drive is fine! 100 thousand on it just skated. Changed and threw only recently. The size was 285 65 17
Yes, it's a typo, of course bridge. Simply because of all the breeches I like that series blizak the last few versions.
But I think the blizak will change only in that case if Michelin makes a mistake with all models with Alpin 5, Alpin A4 was a great rubber, and A5 something like this myself.
In any case, let goes long and confident.
PS just yesterday I came across this old(although early tests were met)
www.michelin.lv/ziemas-riepas/index.html
the Russian found, but the fact that Michelin xi3 testing for service life 25 000 km more than the Bridgestone Blizzak WS80, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2, Pirelli Ice Zero FR, and it's almost 1.5-2 times TC in other tests saw the numbers the average winter tire from leaders Ranka walks 30,000 to 40,000 km, however, she stands on an equal footing in all the tests on snow, ice and so on. And studding, respectively, at 20 000 km longer than the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8, Pirelli Ice Zero, Hankook Winter I*Pike RS.
I though the previous two Alpin A4 departed only 2 seasons, and then caught a curb in the snow and had to buy xi3 :)
Thanks for the feedback, and hopefully, on occasion, you will have the opportunity to see or review the behavior of the rubber in the real world. One note — my review about Bridgestone, not Goodyear. Thanks again!
Are a fan of rubber Michelin, but always stare at a series of blizak gudera, as for me it has all the necessary qualities to become a very good choice for the average resident of the metropolis.
Your opinion once again convinced me that my assumptions about this rubber is correct, although I never it out.
He took a first Michelin Alpin A4, then Michelin x-айс3, for my conditions I think this rubber is optimal for most indicators.
I'm still talking about the efficiency of rubber in really dangerous situations. On the track, on ice, in General, where the flow rate is not low. :)
Not quite agree, I ride all winter in the cottage and through the snow nemonapride spikes rowing better.
And gray I am a long love in a warm sits.
And here it is necessary to understand the conditions in which effective spikes. But the trouble with our people is that they don't understand that spikes in the conditions of the Russian winter is only effective in regions with warm winters (to -15 degrees) and which actually often the icing. The rest of the spikes are full of shit and long time ago it has been proven by all the experts. But in Russia people injection internal combustion engine still warms up before you go, 10-20 minutes :)
But links can?(2 or 3) interesting to see who is on what place of the friction of the tires.
well on tests like the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 and the Continental leaders. Then the locomotive are all the others.
Breeches are the leaders in the development of friction of the tires, he rolled on the same
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So again, you got rid of the test where there are breeches of DM-2.
Why Japan is the leading Velcro? Explore the country better. Look where the country and the weather there.
First they banned the use of studs in the country.
All ride on the clutch, and, accordingly, place emphasis on high quality Velcro.
Japan is famous for its meticulousness of his craft.
I agree with you. Only give test дмв2.
Well, I'm not saying that they are all bad. About the temperature - I think it will be a plus Brigam, especially with the temperature decrease.
But Nokian is a clear leader in this because like it or not, but Finland still harsher climate and winters Snezhnoe and colder, and throughout. Michelin and continental — there is a company with a name, history and relevant experience, well and winter tires given the mountain regions of these countries.
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Everything is visible, and understand, according to the test of the hack is in the lead.
Just fair to compare rubber one "era" development, i.e. One year. On the last test.
Still would have taken a different temperature -5,-15-25 then just test succeeded at 100.
This I mean that not fair Japan to merge with market quality rubber, a decent level.
saturn60
I have Bridgestone Blizzak VRX excellent rubber. I noticed that at -15 Velcro behaves better on ice than studs. Another test was carried out in -37 VRX and Hakkapeliitta 8 when braking from 90 km\h VRX showed the best result at 5 meters, unlike the Hakkapeliitta 8. Just write that the machine was one and the same VAZ 2115 with wheels 175/70 R13
braking is the main Forte of Brigida.
saturn60
I have Bridgestone Blizzak VRX excellent rubber. I noticed that at -15 Velcro behaves better on ice than studs. Another test was carried out in -37 VRX and Hakkapeliitta 8 when braking from 90 km\h VRX showed the best result at 5 meters, unlike the Hakkapeliitta 8. Just write that the machine was one and the same VAZ 2115 with wheels 175/70 R13
Stronger delusions are not heard)))
colinmrc
Try the same test to make through the season, and the best two or three. Interesting result. Kind of heard that the new Velcro fastener is generally "flame", and when it almost wiped anymore. Spikes like so much to wear do not react, unless of course all spikes not to lose )))
DM-V1 has docutel almost zero, already almost bald and was driving on the highway in places in the ice, was quite confident, Yes, not as new, but bridge did, until the end of winter did not ducatel, had to take the Velcro another brand new she even behaved the same way and sometimes worse than almost bald bridge, the following will take again bridge...
But if studded tires escalate to almost zero, what will happen to her? where are the spikes and how soft will remain rubber?
colinmrc
Try the same test to make through the season, and the best two or three. Interesting result. Kind of heard that the new Velcro fastener is generally "flame", and when it almost wiped anymore. Spikes like so much to wear do not react, unless of course all spikes not to lose )))
Velcro DM-1. Season 4, tread is 5.5-6 mm. that is, the season is still enough. Velcro still works, best efficiency from -10 to -25. with it, the more frost, the better the effect. at 0... -7 rubber average. if you believe the label protective wear, after 4 mm Velcro all... only protector. on the side it is possible to look at bridgestones on the office website, how to determine that Velcro end.
The Blizzak VRX, 3rd season, runs small.
Feels like the grip was worse, but of course it was imperfect (as all Velcro probably) when braking/manoeuvring in the range of-5C-+2S, especially when slush or wet snow. So you have to gently ride )
And on the cross I have to know the properties of rubber is not worth it, I have a permanent all-wheel drive ))
Alas... one more test to do, as Hakkapeliitta 8 lived only 2 seasons. 2 wheels with hernias, one pierced for cord, blame the hard side of the road and killed. In common with all four wheels, there is only one whole, lacks only five spikes. VRX departed of season 2, here went the third season of wear around 10-15%, as seen in the photo. Total rubber will be able to pass a maximum of 2 seasons, then leave her for the summer, somewhere in the 1-2 seasons. Total in principle, VRX can last for about 5-6 seasons. Rubber basically happy, next winter tires will be too sticky.
saturn60
I have Bridgestone Blizzak VRX excellent rubber. I noticed that at -15 Velcro behaves better on ice than studs. Another test was carried out in -37 VRX and Hakkapeliitta 8 when braking from 90 km\h VRX showed the best result at 5 meters, unlike the Hakkapeliitta 8. Just write that the machine was one and the same VAZ 2115 with wheels 175/70 R13
Try the same test to make through the season, and the best two or three. Interesting result. Kind of heard that the new Velcro fastener is generally "flame", and when it almost wiped anymore. Spikes like so much to wear do not react, unless of course all spikes not to lose )))
03ivan
aooompany nonsense.
spikes are good just to "transition" the ice freeze and soft, where the spike can penetrate fully and go on. on very cold ice spike as a skate glides and makes it worse.
for those who are in the tank. there are tests at the wheel, a Finnish tests, European. the difference is a couple of percent: лада2111.рф/images/storie...s/shipy-lipuchka/tabl.jpg
at -12...-15 any studding begins to proryvat Velcro. at -25 from my braking distance 30% more than the Velcro. and if you do not mind, to leave for ice at -25 to -22...accelerate to 60-80 and to brake sharply. on the ice, first will be almost no scratches, the second pair of studs are guaranteed to fly.
at -10... -15 not a single spike is probet ice, rather it will pull out. because at +5... -7 spikes better, but -10 with them of any avail.
at -20...-25 spikes on the ice out mercilessly. and ice does not hurt at all.
I have Bridgestone Blizzak VRX excellent rubber. I noticed that at -15 Velcro behaves better on ice than studs. Another test was carried out in -37 VRX and Hakkapeliitta 8 when braking from 90 km\h VRX showed the best result at 5 meters, unlike the Hakkapeliitta 8. Just write that the machine was one and the same VAZ 2115 with wheels 175/70 R13
I also Bridgit Velcro us 8 winters ! .it was done, and not stood!Very satisfied! Now the focus is not passed from inside bursted! In stores Velcro Brigita was not — bought continental also Velcro already experiencing!
aleksis161
Support associate!Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 215\65\R 16 thorn this season is 4th, only positive emotions every day to work in the city, on the highway 30 km there and the same back(of the southern Federal district, Taganrog), sometimes in the morning, take the road glass back is already a mess or bare asphalt, I have not noticed on the spikes of ash road, long braking distance and so on.Before that was Velcro Haka RSI, the earth and sky, never will wear the Velcro.By far the studding!
Hello! Will fit into the conversation, I agree with you completely about the spikes! Studded tires are much better on the track. The situation is similar to the 42 km today on Hankook studded set, stood brigite Velcro, overall very pleased, but for the city.
In Crimea
the feelings are the same.
Excellent rubber,
for adherents to the lack of spikes.
Bridgestone only for the pros, and a signature. He rolled them more than one year, and not on the same brand of car...Only positive emotions and correct behavior on the road. Very good rubber makes a bridge!
The fifth season of travel in the rubber. Great! And summer also bought Bridgestone. Let noisy, but eternal!
He learned the current 3 years)) when I had to go by down the zero wheel, but it's like with normal pressure)
Brigg rules rubber, not the ultimate dream of course, but your money! Choose only one, and summer and winter! Winter VRX noisy in comparison рево2, grip both good! But more pleased when the summer s001 run flat wheel but it looks like inflated I reached to sinomatech in the distance of 4 km! And she did not care changed the nipple because it broke and then let's go! as it turned out rubber runflat was!
The fact that any tire is a compromise between different qualities. It is impossible to make a universal rubber one and always will be something better, something worse than the other.
I'm pretty sure that is the case, if we are talking about Japanese non-studded winter tyres
I'm from Japan or when the rubber did not take, always only new. And how much touched, blizak always pretty tough. I'm not saying that Blizak worse, the more there was a time when I thought he was the coolest rubber.
Blizzak you were old and dried up, apparently with Japan. And Toyo new here and thought that it's better.
In fact the bridge is much better in winter friction tyres than Toyo.
On Vista 4vd I was Blizak. After he bought the Toyo model I do not remember, but it so happened that there once prices rebounded, but apparently not all came up and Toyo bought very cheap. It was much softer than Blizak and cutting of the tread is smaller, as I remember, every penny the club and six stripes in all directions, like a spider. The first experience is from my home was the rise of 100 meters long, the Blizak had to go down and accelerate. On Toyo directly from the house began to rise. And on the track if the track in the asphalt, the machine ceased to pull. Since then when buying winter tires always poke your finger in the rubber. Blizak is always tougher.
Kostya-S
Yeah, also check out the tires, I agree with both digital evaluations (Outback, 235/60/17). And about the ice — have not seen Velcro what with him cope even on a solid 4. On ice do you need to "slow down the head", that is, to think one step ahead ) )
by the way, I'd add that even "very good" studding on clean ice to stick in full if not "slow head". because spikes is not a panacea.
Yeah, also check out the tires, I agree with both digital evaluations (Outback, 235/60/17). And about the ice — have not seen Velcro what with him cope even on a solid 4. On ice do you need to "slow down the head", that is, to think one step ahead ) )