Test the new summer tires Cordiant Comfort 2 and compare them with the GoodYear and Bridgestone.
Portugal — a country of bright and colorful. The number of Sunny days here is off the charts even in December. Bright sunlight creates the impression of eternal summer in the photos, but it is not, or rather, not exactly.
Full sizeTown Cascais — a real Paradise for wealthy tourists
This is what I have a good feel when at half past six in the morning left the hotel in shorts and t-shirt to run. Blowing in from the ocean squally wind and plus four degrees Celsius would make an attempt to run into a torture. To prevent this I could not, shrugged, and went to get dressed for Breakfast.
A tiny Cup of coffee, the ocean surf somewhere beneath a rock, on which, as a clam, perched hotel with the romantic name “Albatross”.
Full sizethe Most prestigious villas are right on the rocks protruding from the sea like dragon's teeth
Easy to be enchanted by the views and forget that in Portugal, I came to work — that is, to test the new summer tires Cordiant Comfort 2. By the way, to call them “Yaroslavl” — is incorrect. Auto tires brand are produced at two factories in Yaroslavl and Omsk. It is up to us, in Siberia, and made a test bus.
New from Russian tire manufacturers — good example of working on the bugs. First of all, it about the name. Comfort 2 is much closer to the truth than in the case when the name budget tires economy class is dominated by the word Sport. Secondly, in comparison with models 3 Sport, Comfort and Roadrunner has been updated and design of the tire itself.
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In rubber compounds now claimed more silica than before. It is possible to reduce rolling friction and to achieve the best hooking on a wet surface. Silica is an expensive material purchased from European suppliers, and its quantity directly affects the cost of the tire.
Has changed significantly and asymmetrical tread. In spite of domestic origin, tyres Cordiant — international product, because they are tested and finalized with the active participation of leading Western companies, experts of the tyre industry. For example, tested the tires (including euromarker) on the largest proving grounds of Applus+ IDIADA in Spanish Catalonia.
Full sizeThe main direction of work — the fight against aquaplaning. Not only on the straight that it is easier, but in the turns, which is harder. The withdrawal of moisture from the contact patch contribute to the grooves and ribs of various shapes and areas as in the Central part of the tread and shoulder areas.
I have to say, personally check the tyre resistance to aquaplaning I was not able — five days in Portugal, it didn't rain even once, and the roads here are built with the mind. The pits a bit, even in rural areas, from the roadway — thought-out drainage.
Full sizeRough strip on the tread done in order to ensure less noise, until the tire is completely new, not bedded.
If you believe the certification unremarkable (1222/2009-C1), in terms of efficiency, Comfort 2 tires size 205/55R16 tires are not inferior to the high class from leading manufacturers. Class C fuel economy, And the hydroplaning and the noise level is 71 dB.
Maximum tire life is stated in 97 thousand kilometers, but I am in a such indicator do not believe, rather, believe that it is achievable only for very quiet driving, and that, in theory. Therefore, I propose to interpret this statement differently. Since this figure was shown by the results of accelerated tests on a run of 30,000 km, this run I suggest to keep in mind. Traffic conditions on the Russian roads — this is the real “crash” test. The main thing is that the guys from Cordiant claim — new tyres have reinforced sidewalls and are not prone to hernia formation when hitting the hole. Again, in Portugal find such pits was not easy. But leading to the sea an abandoned dirt road on the rocks the tires worked gently.
Cordiant Comfort 2 is available in 22 sizes from 13 inches to 17 inches, reinforced SUV version adds another 15 variants in the range from 15 to 18 inches.
For the test we were provided with a convoy of brand new Mercedes Benz GLC 250d — 2.2 turbodiesel, 204 HP, 500 Nm. Tires Cordiant Comfort 2 SUV EfficientGrip SUV Goodyear, Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport — all size 235/65 R17.
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First thing is check the pressure, adjust it to the recommended plant indicators. Fortunately, Oleg Rastegaeva of “Auto Revue” always with a professional gauge, which immediately showed that Cordiant and GoodYear for two cars were under-inflated by 0.3 bar. Such deviation may cause incorrect comparison. Take the compressor, achieved the desired “tens”. You can go!
Full sizeCoast of Portugal in those places where it can be reached, covered with waste — as in the Crimea
The route, which lasted for several days, took place on a variety of roads — from primers to freeways. There were many switchbacks, and straights, which allowed us to assess the tyre from different angles and in different conditions.
Full sizeIn December coastal resort in Portugal, which is for rich Europeans summer destination, literally dying. Traffic on the roads is minimal, especially away from the cities. Around deserted neighborhoods of luxury villas. On the quays — not a soul.
Full sizeBridge of 25 of April — the visiting card of Lisbon
Empty roads give rise to the temptation to exceed the speed limit. But the fines in Portugal are atrocious — one of the journalists gained more than a thousand euros in a few hours. However, the penalty for speed is not the worst thing that can happen. Worse to be caught by a red light. And the typical phrase “I'm on red do not go” in Portugal is not working. I'll explain why.
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Enough to enter any town at speeds of a few kilometers per hour more than permitted — as the nearest traffic light, from afar, a flashing orange, then turns red! This is a warning. Behind the traffic light has a camera...
And if the excess of speed to 20 kilometers per hour will cost the village from 60 to 300 Euros, the fine for a red light or not stopping on a stop sign — up to 2500 euros. The same penalty for driving without insurance local. Exceeding more than 60 km / h will cost 2,500 Euros and overtaking on the right “only” 1250 Euros. Expensive, very expensive, without which it is better to do.
After the organizers of the dough began to come the first penalties in a rolling machine, the desire to pile already there was none. However, I broke up with him even earlier, because the types of the Atlantic seaboard just captivated me.
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Like, sea-sea, but the feeling is completely different. As I have looking at wave height and surf, taken a liking to the Bay in the absence of beachgoers.
Full sizeWhat surprised me about local surfers, is the fact that a lot of people came on their own from Russia and Ukraine
To switch on the beauty of Portugal is very simple, but about them in separate post and probably a few posts.
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In the meantime, let's talk about tires.
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Within a few days I was transferred from car to car, comparing different brands of tires on different surfaces and roads. The results surprised me not less, than during the tests of winter tyres Cordiant Snow Cross 2 in Armenia. Here, as there will be several key provisions, as well as a reservation — the entire experience is completely subjective, no instrumental measurements were not carried out.
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So, what can I say about Cordiant Comfort 2? The tires I was pleasantly surprised. The noise level is small, unevenness in the rubber works very gently. Tyres are good brakes, cornering adequate hook. Handling is safe, understandable, but not sports. The limit on a slippery road demolition comes though and smoothly, but a little earlier than you want.
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Tyre GoodYear EfficientGrip SUV I liked a little bit more — they are a smidgen quieter reaction more precisely. The hook in the limit of a little more demolition comes a little later. The result — more fun with the active drive.
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And that's what caused the real surprise is the ease with which tires of the Russian brand has surpassed the Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport. “Breeches” was noisier, harder on bumps, more nervous in the ruts, and the demolition of the limit curves occurred earlier and more sharply. When braking in a straight triggered the ABS before the competition. The transverse hook is weak even on dry pavement. For the active drive is not the best choice.
Full sizeCape of Saint-Vincenti and the lighthouse on it is the ideal place to watch the sunset
The last stage is a desert serpentine with a length of 70 kilometers. Low settlements loyal to 90 km / h almost the entire length. The Portuguese are well done — not to put “reduce” signs before every turn.
Just seeing the streamer on the map of the Navigator, I casually asked the organizers what are they gonna do with the tires after a test? Hearing that the tires are waiting for disposal, I allowed myself to follow road signs. That is, cut down all the money — the benefit for some reason on the mountain tests from my car disappear passengers.
Mercedes-Benz GLC may not be the most driversi car on the planet, he is not disconnected until the end of ESP, but for a fairly large crossover he was driving well and I was glad that the wheels were the tires Cordiant, not Bridgestone. The demolition was, of course, but because of entering a turn with excessive speed. Was and slide under the thrust, and controlled slide on the “hackneyed” stilettos, and actually quite fun, without the slightest traffic violations.
The predictable result of steep turns, rough pavement, and so I don't have ESP — worn shoulder area of the tread. The car normal automobile journalist arrived at the hotel just in time for dinner, after shopping, wear the same tires, same pressure and the same new car, was almost unnoticeable.
Full sizeLeft bus after my test, right after the test of automotive journalists
This is a good illustration of the dependence of wear of a tire from the riding style — if you want, to erase even the “long lasting” tires can be just a few hundred kilometers.
All points above “e” puts the list price: for the price of four tyres Cordiant, you can only buy a pair of GoodYear or Bridgestone. I think that the price is half less than the big-name rivals, the tires Cordiant Comfort 2 was very good. Unfortunately, I have not had the opportunity to check the tyre resistance to aquaplaning, but colleagues of the “Auto-Revue” in its comparison test has rated it as high.
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This means that the new tires Cordiant will be a success — for its price segment it is a clear breakthrough characteristics.
Now the question to you, dear readers — what do you think about the tyres Cordiant? Also if there are any questions to the manufacturer — ask, I will pass it on to the factory, and they will prepare answers.
"Empty roads give rise to the temptation to exceed the speed limit. But the fines in Portugal are atrocious — one of the journalists gained more than a thousand euros in a few hours"
90 on the serpentine was sometimes impossible to keep... even Though I tried and even killed the rubber for 70km
Of course, just where does the observance of speed limits, calculated on the centenary senile :)
artemspec
In principle, why not, if all "thieves" will also be observed that the death rate in accidents will be much lower.
I thought there was a club driving enthusiasts, not old hens:)
Fulcrum25
What do you want? I here do not see a problem to abide by traffic rules, why it is necessary to shift the +20 not punishable) I for all 1 speeding tickets.
Write an autobiography and get a medal
A few seasons left on 175/65 R14 Cordiant SnoMax. No complaints. On replacements they had to choose between Snow Cross and Nokian Nordman 5. Took Nokian. In comparison with SnoMax they better behave in asfaltowej track, but a little worse in deep snow and slush. Yes, and the spikes are already very much out. There is one claim to the summer Cordiant Sport 2 — always pull on the rim (dressed for the new stamps TZSK). Constantly have to swap. You can find out what is this thing about these tires?
Here just wanted to say and you already mentioned that people come and say the weak sidewall on the sport 2 and 3. hernia (although the Koreans I would not say that the ideal)Now I will advise comfort listen to their feedback in the future. Though our people are hard to please, need this: that in the mud but loud on the road and so inexpensive, was not doing well and pits are not noticed (the square wheel and rubber is like new). 😁
ViRTUART
One thing is not clear why the test Kordianta to organize in Portugal) planned sales in Europe? European journalists were?;)
They are so there are sold
At the beginning of the summer put on Citroen Cordiant wife — after Michelin and Pirelli is happy, especially the price/quality. I used this brand was put on one of their cars, so not the wrong replay.
Think of ROS.tires are the most optimum, even better than many "import" ROS.manufacture. Which is not use for that year. Current import from import.
It seems that our save at the same silica, rubber. But if you don't turn up used import priemlemo price tag/condition, I will take the Cordiant for Suzuki.
Your situation very much. Thank you.
Oh, did not read. Of course it is good that You rested. The following test, studded rubber, in Africa on Safari ? The domestic is always a compromise. There are money import, there is no money kordiant.
Those tyres would be the size 18-19 to graduate. Perhaps there would be a demand. To be honest the difference in price for small tire dimensions, what type r15 Russian and imported (not the top) is very symbolic.
In the large "sizes" the situation of inpa, often you can find much battered Porsche Cayenne and not only on bald summer tires. And then the thorns in Gao. Well, no people have money for new tires and to buy a car is easier-the brain is not enough. Here they'd just bought these tires at a reasonable price. Although it would be nice to traffic police checked the tire wear. Because bald tires such subject are potentially dangerous to others.
another top continental say "nervous" acting in rosseyskih ruts, they are probably bad now because of this? kordiant is so far swung)))))
Put this winter on Largus van Kordiant snow cross the spikes went all winter — and was surprised — the noise from the spikes no spikes in place — permeability to be surprisingly high (after the big snowfall — the one that was in February — in the Parking lot — where at first it was not clean — and then the tractor helped snow shafts — Largus rode like a tank — but the hand Kret front — wheel drive- tires Dunlop graspic 3 — go just didn't)) From the factory Largus was also installed summer tires Kordiant — I will say this, just tyres — for a quiet measured ride — on 3+ or 4 with a minus, in principle, suitable (have dokatalsya this summer until the end of November — had a lot of trips in the Moscow region in the area А107 and 108, P113 and other adjacent underutilized in the winter, tracks) — if you want extreme need other tyres. Hence the conclusion — for the money they ask for kordiant — the optimal combination of price and quality.
Biddy
Snow Cross donativo third season, was not expecting this from Cordianta, like me. Summer Cordiant Sport 3. Question. When to expect Snow Cross 2, really want to try?
Snow Cross — I agree — the best for the money — very pleased.
vitaliivolk
Photos and the country is beautiful — no words! Rubber — a lot of questions!
And what are the issues? Kama Euro better? Stood on the spectrum of a new plant resource 45 thousand for all three machines zero tread — and You say the questions are many dents and holes — it matters to taxiing — but normal driving on a car with normal tyres for little money is quite another.
andrei337
God forbid from gordiana... redkosny rebalancethermae shit
don't agree — fine balanced — there were Snow Cross and even an ancient analogue UltraGrip 500 not remember the name — everything is balanced... It's likely Your attitude to things in adequate cost — just understand — premium tires — a good thing — but not always implemented due to various life circumstances — but we must go every day...
Merka-Va
I think the hands where the workers direct, not have Ashot in the tire, where even the wheels to wash nothing...
I agree — they are in such tires imagined themselves to be experts on pit stops... but just to throw the tire with electronic sensors air pressure in the tires may not all break — and that's with mass — like regions and in the MSC — and then guiltily without looking up wiping on the dirty robe dirty hands say — there are no sensors — it's Your car, buggy poezdit another day everything will be standards — what standards — if they stupidly break...As they are not Intrusive Soviet service))))
LexxSharingan
That's massive, no other way to fly to Portugal, that would be on the Mercedes test the Omsk kardian! This is a direct strong)))
On the other hand, perhaps this way from the oak rubber, which is bought only at the price tag, to the tires, which will compete at the world with the second echelon.
even with the third tier
That's massive, no other way to fly to Portugal, that would be on the Mercedes test the Omsk kardian! This is a direct strong)))
On the other hand, perhaps this way from the oak rubber, which is bought only at the price tag, to the tires, which will compete at the world with the second echelon.
Were the tires Kordiant, SUV option, noisy, poorly kept water. Not very well remember them.
I'm surprised at all the custom papers in the Internet in recent years, and people who firmly believe in them! Any tyre of the top 5 test SP for otsam the real owners are not inferior to any criticism! EVERYONE drives differently, on different roads, big country...so I agree with the test as the information FOR PORTUGAL. And "local" pence-drivers, one car for life.
Gls MB? Yes, a car on square tires will go and will be more comfortable than in Oise?! Paid
artemspec
Before you accuse someone of incompetence, it is necessary to travel on all types and models of tires. And then your Turanza? What you compared?
I had Kordiant Comfort, it's that time of Turanza. The difference is heaven and earth. If the pattern has more or less good (in this case about Comfort, although I went on the entire line of Kordianta in addition to off-road tires), the quality has slipped just into the abyss. And it's not just my point of view, but also all the friends who also use them. Alas, like many start-UPS in the former Union, was first the product, then slipped.
"...And the bridge behaved much worse kordiant on the same roads..." — no evidence is only the allegations or the Placebo effect. :)) I would like to see a video where on the same car on the same roads pile on kordiant and Bridgestone and where you can see the route profile, speed up on turns and exiting turns both tires.
And so I can say that kordiant behaves much worse than the austone on the same roads. :)))
Although I austone 20'000 km gone, and interchanges with a double increase flying and the wheels of a car held as the grip that is necessary, kordiant rest and shower when not to be seen dig and all in the right lane and trailing the track of the water I insane on the highway 130km/h was flying, resistance to aquaplaning such that kordiant never dreamed of — that it's not a few hundred in conditions close to ideal on the roads of Portugal. :))
A typo about at. In the article all the tires listed. And bridge behaved much worse kordiant on the same roads
You yourself wrote about the Dueler AT and then fixed.
Even if about Bridgestone Dueler write, you're not in the same conditions of their tests.
"... and I was glad that the wheels were the tires Cordiant, not Bridgestone. The demolition was, of course, but because of entering a turn with excessive speed..." — nonsense! Would the Chinese austone and speeding the demolition would avoid and Bridgestone and even more.
If you're "at" to have tried, so I'm not surprised that you thought that was mediocre. This fiasco! Any experience, any objectivity I still do not see you.
Do not confuse the right to have and drive are two different things. I like 1.5 million kilometers ran. On Bridgestone Turanza you didn't go, just write about these wheels. And shouldn't be compared to Bridgestone and kordiant, wiser kordiant to compare with the Chinese wheels, as kordiant is a good alternative if you don't want to take China and the Bridgestone is the wheels are a higher grade and better performance than kordiant.
I went to Turanza, and FYI under this name are very different tires. Pleased with such commentators, the experience of the type of 25 years. I have 18 and why? You Coordiante specific about which I write went? Or just decide that without your wise comment history would be incomplete?
I'm over 25 years I have traveled on many models including even Soviet. And not just the test as autoblogger and it went under various conditions. So I have something to compare kordiant. Bus as bus is nothing special, many Chinese tyres have characteristics not worse than kordiant but are cheaper.
If you don't know about Turanza, much more to talk about.
Before you accuse someone of incompetence, it is necessary to travel on all types and models of tires. And then your Turanza? What you compared?
Now go to the Bridgestone Turanza 1005 and has hook and turns it is possible to pile and low noise. The author mildly incompetent.
I don't understand why test in Portugal Russian tires?
In the photo Bridgestone.
Comfort had the most complaints from buyers. Breach geometry or hernia of the sidewall
bev22
Let me add 5 cents from the seller of the tires.
Rainbow seems too Kordiant, after reading Your article. With almost everything You write in principle, it is possible
agree, except for some moments:
1) Resource. You criticized the bus Bridge goes kordiant at least twice. And Hudler too.
2) Price. Where did the difference in 2 times? Quote wholesale prices on the date 06.06.18 (Region NSO) in the chassis the size 205/55 R16:
Cordiant Comfort 2 94V-2820-00
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 94W XL — 3297-00
91V Bridgestone Ecopia EP200 — 3812-00
Moreover, the model of Goodyera in comparison not the budget in their lineup
3) Sales kordianta fall with each season, increasing prices for 2016-2018. To call the bus middle-segment and raise the price tag, it does not become the bus in the midrange segment.
I would say more, quality Kordianta also fell below the bar. If Snowmax was less, then the Comfort has lived 30K a quiet ride and two tires took.
Let me add 5 cents from the seller of the tires.
Rainbow seems too Kordiant, after reading Your article. With almost everything You write in principle, it is possible
agree, except for some moments:
1) Resource. You criticized the bus Bridge goes kordiant at least twice. And Hudler too.
2) Price. Where did the difference in 2 times? Quote wholesale prices on the date 06.06.18 (Region NSO) in the chassis the size 205/55 R16:
Cordiant Comfort 2 94V-2820-00
Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 94W XL — 3297-00
91V Bridgestone Ecopia EP200 — 3812-00
Moreover, the model of Goodyera in comparison not the budget in their lineup
3) Sales kordianta fall with each season, increasing prices for 2016-2018. To call the bus middle-segment and raise the price tag, it does not become the bus in the midrange segment.
)))Kordiant, Portugal, Mercedes...and why the heck-why it is the main market or they were actively buying, mostly the owners of Mercedes?
z.s. Or "what could we invent that would hang out in Portugal")))
Where did Snow Cross 2?
4 seasons tiesdell on the first version, liked it, want 2, but it died down seeing, no hearing nor spirit about them.
"...And that's what caused the real surprise is the ease with which the Russian tyre brand Bridgestone has surpassed."
Neighing! Ahahahahaha :))))
Such delusions have not read.
Take the test tires "Kama", I wonder if they will be "better" than the Bridgestone.
Here we discuss a non-negotiable principle. Someone how to ride and on what? What do you want from tyres? Drive gently - to change more and more expensive to ride long, hard and loud and soft and long-a compromise of marketing, like salty sugar))
Compared to model Road Runner model Comfort 2 far stepped forward. When in hands take Comfort 2 even feel that a mix like "velvety" on the Road Runner, this was not so, in fact, believe that the new Coordiante quite well behaved. Was surprised when I felt the new tires)
KORDIANT as firm tires for me was closed on 31 December 2010 when their winter studded tires flew into the ditch on the road for 100 km to the house. I struggled with the drifts of the rear axle on simple turns and turtle speed. Similar feedback I read from other people after this incident.
But... if I was invited to test the Kordianta in Portugal, I would have praised them to the skies!
I am also on "summer" passed 12T.km and... everything. What the first 5-7 thousand, all the wear is not noticeable, but then immediately turned to 4mm. I went quietly, sometimes under 200km...
Do not buy it.
But the Nokian WR A3 and Yokohama Blue Earth, also manufactured in Russia — liked.
I had kordiant don't know what, but the summer, even at eight, damn it for three months to zero, but do not always drive safely, but what would three months be like an egg, you'll excuse me. Now I ride at Laufen, that's a budget and cheerful. IMHO.
about the job to go to another country to ride in the fun new ahrenenno expensive cars to do a photo session, relax and go home)!
maybe so, but it seems he's so meticulous — could be the manufacturer to turn to, in fact, no such complaint was not addressed(
Possibly fake review of Kordiant say that this problem is unlikely, and no it is not addressed.
market.yandex.ru/user/maxim-alafinov/reviews
That's the opinion of the owner about these tires, with an illustration of cones in place... gluing "themselves to blame" from the manufacturer after examination...
Breeches (235\65\18 N\R Sport) is really, really bad tires! Made in Japan! And put them at the St. Petersburg plant Nissan factory-fitted! Harm probably?! Same Yokohama 98 two orders of magnitude better! The same in the original equipment, made in Russia!
AFSD
In Voronezh in December were grass, so no need to invent. Here's my post about it www.drive2.ru/l/490370367311839827/ and we have puddles there, and bad roads, and toll charge allowed 129 km/h, that all interested users of the goods. The ocean just is not. So you flew to Portugal, money is only spent to test and plainly did not work.
Yeah, and even tested by Mercedes)) "the noise level is small")
if that's the car it was great, then on any Logan or grant there were, under the flying a fighter aircraft.
26 thousand drove on the new tires comfort 2 since mid-April. rubber is bald. to 40 to not make it. I think 30 is the limit. it is very small, although the ordinary motorist in 2 seasons is enough. riding style — relaxed. highway — 110 km/h — max. geometry / hernia no complaints.