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The instrument panel during the existence of the car has changed quite strongly. And the first experiments in this field there have been very interesting to look at, but it was noticeable that the concept of "ergonomics" and its implementation in industrial design came much later.
I guess you could say that in its present form tidy more or less acquired the final shape and familiar location of the major elements from the mid-to late 60-ies.
Increasingly, I notice that when the network is conceived debate about the directions of development of private (as opposed to commercial vehicles) cars, it brings to mind the saying about "bounding the number of mind in the universe and growing population."
Ipadizate all surfaces and controls, car moving by leaps and bounds. It is clear what the interest proizvoditelem. The change of design becomes a function of the twist graphic editor, not a rework of production, change molds and so on. Accordingly, there is sewn a tremendous savings.
Pokupki just getting dumber with each generation and require all new toys to fight boredom, which turns the process of movement in the car due to its increasing automation.
Interestingly, so far there are no standards or restrictions for manufacturers — high-spirited, do not want. The only thing that exists — in the United States by NHTSA (The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) has issued non-binding "Recommendations for displays and screens in a moving vehicle", according to which producers should refrain from use of photos and moving images, and input each command should not require more than six (!) taps on the virtual button.
While serious researchers say (and confirm what the results of laboratory tests) that touchscreens require much more time and attention for interpretation issued by information and for entering commands. They absolutely unintuitive. Trying to change the direction of the flow of air or to turn off the heated seats through the touchscreen is no different from sending a text message to divert from the main process control "means high risk" and the situation on the road.
Without getting too deep into sociology, psychology and peculiarities of the process of perception and information processing of human brains simply list my own humble opinion about the fact that of the comfort & safety features I would like to see in your car:
— Bi-xenon headlights
— Good visibility in all directions
— all the automatic anti-dazzle rear view mirror and heated exterior
— Adequate working dual-zone automated climate control with a simple, classic interface.
— Analog devices with real indicators of coolant temperature, oil pressure and naprugi (not saderinasanas in middle position switches the emulation of the warning lights, as most are now). Able to easily display the advanced number of parameters from the sensors (as it is solved in a BMW).
— Cruise control
— ABS and off traxen control.
— multi-adjustable cushion and backrest (separate) seats, and heated.
— high quality stereo speaker with connectivity to MP3 player or sticking of the stick.
navigation is unimportant, but if there is — remove if not needed, the screen uniproprietario and legkousvoyaemogo ON
— Elektrosteklo with avtozavodskoi on all 4 doors.
— both front doors and the tailgate with the lock cylinders.
— the glass sunroof is a good size with normally organized aerodynamics to keep it open at speeds of 110-120 km/h. an Example of how Beano E39. How not — Subaru Outback 2005-09. Herovenko, but ride — Lexus ЛС400 (noisy), SAAB 9-5 (small aperture).
— (Optional) Disable the Parktronic rear.
— a spectacle case for storage of sunglasses
What absolutely do not want to see in your car:
— every yourself-in-the-head devices, like radars, automatic brakes and rain sensors.
— touchscreens and other type of televisions — which can stop working at one point and to leave without any driver interface. And if it will be able to have a car at the same time.
— a million buttons on the steering wheel.
— otstutstvii review back, thick front roof pillars that limit visibility.
Elektrotechnik.
— push button start/stop.
— paddle button/pedal to shift gears in automatic transmission.
— weird new-fangled non-fixed paddle switches and selectors of the automatic transmission, the latter also in the form of krutilki on the tidy (Hello, Chrysler!)
— Automatic transmission with the number of transfers more than 5-6.
— sverhsekretnye tires.
So in conclusion — illustrate what is
GOOD:
...excluding BMW shny TV, just no picture better immediately
and what is
BAD
Audiva tidy
Ford May Touch
True! Used to be better, live arrow live buttons, and all this Gadimova the era of depart
on your needs to drive you by car from the 90s) more of these machines will not be
Go. Regularly use, especially when it is necessary to adapt to the speed limit — 79км/h for example to keep.
A cruise is not for your areas. He's good here or in the States in the country, where the entire flow, including trucks, is one speed. And when a few hours with her going without a break, plus or minus a few km/h In Russia so do not go.
I subscribe to every word !
At least I still would not want the cruise to see (and pay for it)
I've tried to use, does not take in the sense of what katushka?
That right foot free? In the back seat still won't get over it...
I agree, it is all colorful on the small screen, but not creepy, in my opinion, uncomfortable... functionality of this inconvenience is not changing...
Climate control buttons are handy, but not on the sensor + the buttons still goes the sound "peak" to him not to watch theautomarket.ru/img2005/31_0909/20/06b.jpg (you can turn on the auto mode and not worry about the temperature, the system will pump the desired temperature) or this one from Toyota www.razbor-avto.ru/news/foto205.jpeg (the principle is the same)
No, this is not exactly need... now Unused extra buttons for hands-free communication (now just "auto-reply" is in the GU)... And the climate control I have is still there...:-)
PS And here push-button control "stove/kondeem" not too comfortable (specifically in my car)... must "touch" your fingers are fumbling... and understand that here it is — the desired button. Although the 8 "speed" of the fan (instead of the usual 3-4) is, of course, the THING is... (but the usual "krutilki" in this respect, more informative and "obazatelno"). Although I seldom go pop...
I also have five buttons staff — Vol "+"/"-", Mute, Seek "+"/"-" (enough)... But the second, an additional unit (also with 5 buttons) I'm "just" drive in drive (because the old GU does not support more than 5 external buttons)...
"a million buttons on the steering wheel." — just addition and decrease volume + switching stations on the radio or music player/ climbing menu magnitola. It's just not separates you from the road when you need something to turn on, off and toggle, and the way precious seconds of your attention while driving.
))) "To turn on the air conditioner" . "Hood is open" . ))) The command convenient of course, but judging by search in Google it doesn't always work. I'm sorry, but I'm for ease of use, usually the more problems, the more problems in the future. Exsplorer certainly not a bad car, far good, but voice use is already present insecurities. Ford also has the automatic Parking system, but if the machine is in this mode will actually allow the accident, the FORD company, for it is not responsible (prescribed in the agreement upon purchase).
Malm-Em
Noticed WANT: "navigation" ; in don't want: "touch screen". But navigation without tacrine does not happen, or how to implement it? Of course the head unit is all touch and no buttons are evil, because the driver needs to feel your fingers pressing buttons (the driver is just focused on the traffic, and something diminish, add to or just include to the touch, but navigation usually include in advance before the movement). Fully agree that Ford's "MITAC" this is evil, especially how to turn if hands after frost or cold car is all frosted? The touchscreen on the car, usually in the cold it is better not to use (coming down quickly), you first need to warm up the cabin, and then already to include. And if the manufacturer with him a stove?
to Ford any command can be run by voice in Russian, you're so vain about him, a thing easy, to use dad's Explorer
Do not know how the White-Crisis and Peugeot on the radio knob with negantem. Twist — on screen, the frame moves across the letters and menus. click on the screen is pressed. it's simple.
Malm-Em
Noticed WANT: "navigation" ; in don't want: "touch screen". But navigation without tacrine does not happen, or how to implement it? Of course the head unit is all touch and no buttons are evil, because the driver needs to feel your fingers pressing buttons (the driver is just focused on the traffic, and something diminish, add to or just include to the touch, but navigation usually include in advance before the movement). Fully agree that Ford's "MITAC" this is evil, especially how to turn if hands after frost or cold car is all frosted? The touchscreen on the car, usually in the cold it is better not to use (coming down quickly), you first need to warm up the cabin, and then already to include. And if the manufacturer with him a stove?
Any Peugeot / Citroen after 2001. navigation without touch
"Keeping the sound will not decrease. Brad and I were mad." it pissed me off to. I thank God it worked. "GU works, just does not start the radio or USB flash drive, or DVD, which were previously sung, all you need to include." is not stored in memory, it turns out, by the way due to weak accumulator can this be. Possible curve model GU was wrong or something hooked up. I have a friend — electronic engineer, in this lane meticulous, he even all the regular bulbs in my car changed to led's that extra "feed" electricity to remove yourself all the wiring on your Isuzu have touched on the removal of the loss and a good result achieved. Of course, something altering increase the load and the same alarm or continuously-working GPS (which I use only in the case, ie if you do not know the way or where), all this consumes battery, but my car was measured (hyundai) there is obtained with this device in grinding the load pass, and with the standard factory GU stock was serdce. One word of many nuances that can discharge a battery. I'm in Marche too faced — engine new, battery new, and incomplete charging and generator standards. It turned out that the " + " terminal-like holding on 5 hairs from the bundle of power wires, terminals and replaced all the problem is gone.
Are different — I agree.
But someone picky I'm someone not steamed.
For example GU stood, everything works, everything is plugged in, but the steering wheel adjustment is one click decreases only one unit volume, that is, to reduce considerably, you must repeatedly press. Keeping the sound will not decrease. Brad and I were mad.
More. Drowned out the car, put on guard, returned, started, PG works, just does not start the radio or USB flash drive, or DVD, which were previously sung, all you need to include.
There was a problem with Joram electricity for two days, has eaten the battery completely, because gps, who worked constantly and didn't pass out.
China is also different there, I have (not Marche) production Hong Kong, and on the basis of chips and processor SAMSUNG. Thing that is interesting, having come to office, Nissan saw the exact same device (and my models on my hyundai car and model Nissan connectors in the bundle and all staff is connected), so the most interesting model is the type with GU factory and the mission is officially underway, although I know where they are released ))) Again on pradika also the firm comes with problems and is not particularly praised, seen some particular adaptation, just know if the GI native (factory) cars have to do with the module CAN, then better not mess with this option to the trouble.
I guess you're a lucky man or not particularly meticulous.
But I faced everywhere was the problem.
Oh, by the way, is also heard on the Mersey they are crooked stand, one friend on the GL-even the clock is not earned, because it was managed through a module CAN, if the CAN is, it is certainly better not to put. They just aren't all bad, our family 2nd car, this device works for about 3 years (bought as a regular GU) of all the bugs was to hang the stick, but it at all devices this could be.
No, no and no again.
China will not put.
Ate enough.
Was the experience.
Not playing, buggy, one hemorrhagic. Better to let the native system that is not able, but it is my brain not destroys. And these androids nasty.
Googled and looked, I realized that in the topic ))) Have a friend on the Cayenne had a similar system with the discs under the seat. ))) Same problem with the cards was. Cards "have Boobs" like Russia, only Moscow ))) Well, still better than Germany to drive ))) Do on your car this kind of device to look (where either WinCE or ANDROID) # ON navigation with maps to buy and all )))
Navigation uzhos.
Maps about nothing.
Only Navitel or Yandex kolhozah.
No waypoint navigation staff I have ever seen.
GU — Commander 2.0
Sorry friend, but OFC at least a photo of your magically (can be bad looking of course), but in my heart also burn with Gaelic, please tell me, how in the convenience of navigation without a touchscreen? How your car is driven?
Malm-Em
Noticed WANT: "navigation" ; in don't want: "touch screen". But navigation without tacrine does not happen, or how to implement it? Of course the head unit is all touch and no buttons are evil, because the driver needs to feel your fingers pressing buttons (the driver is just focused on the traffic, and something diminish, add to or just include to the touch, but navigation usually include in advance before the movement). Fully agree that Ford's "MITAC" this is evil, especially how to turn if hands after frost or cold car is all frosted? The touchscreen on the car, usually in the cold it is better not to use (coming down quickly), you first need to warm up the cabin, and then already to include. And if the manufacturer with him a stove?
My Gel navigation without touchscreen
well Garmin is the best I have navigation, but not all of our Mother Russia there is in the cards. We usually map it "Navitel" or "city Guide". IGO still there, but the Garmin it "rips" it is a fact, and we have that on IGO there maps that Garmin (I mean your region, Irkutsk there in the form of a point, and it is not a map, you know)
Malm-Em
Noticed WANT: "navigation" ; in don't want: "touch screen". But navigation without tacrine does not happen, or how to implement it? Of course the head unit is all touch and no buttons are evil, because the driver needs to feel your fingers pressing buttons (the driver is just focused on the traffic, and something diminish, add to or just include to the touch, but navigation usually include in advance before the movement). Fully agree that Ford's "MITAC" this is evil, especially how to turn if hands after frost or cold car is all frosted? The touchscreen on the car, usually in the cold it is better not to use (coming down quickly), you first need to warm up the cabin, and then already to include. And if the manufacturer with him a stove?
Nafigatsiya removable system Garmin. All those 95% of the time when it is not needed, it lies in chaos and shines not. It seems to be obvious, no?
MariK174
navigation without touch? easy!
see any tidy with navigation from the frets)))
It would be cool if it was possible to get the handle of the manipulator "Kolobok"
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so I live in the city... district center))) here and say that there are normal stores a couple of pieces...
from normal stores (in Chelyabinsk) 190 km
You know, you confirmed my thoughts (I think love will cost you, as the janitor + mouse from the computer), but if You have so much worth, and we will have the same 500r
I bothered to 2114 with adjustment of frequency sweep of the wipers
put the same combination, but coracial there is additional resistance
so — without a joystick switch was worth 250 rubles, with coastcom — 800 like
Fun ))) Here's what I like about our cars is a constructor for adults ))) do what you want and how you want, simple ))) and most importantly all the parts there ))) I am now even wondering how the wiper arm is with this joystick? )))
to fix, the trick was — the buttons in the navigation worked only at speeds less than 20 km/h
after upgrading work at any speed
MariK174
navigation from AVTOVAZ — it says a lot
sometimes I'm strong, but after upgrading radars, cameras, lying has become a show, but the new house is still not visible... and when will the new update-it is not clear(((
BUT conveniently, before the eyes of all and do not have somewhere to look-it overrides the inconvenience)))
By the way, now video watch about your navigation smotri.com/video/view/?id=v1511974dfd0 it though and GLONASS, but on the basis of NAVITEL, and I think the cards are the same used (meaning they have to make more), and the menu has gone — the spitting image of NAVITEL. I think nothing surprising, except that walking on the menus in this navigation interesting and implemented a joystick, not a touch screen, but in the move to manage this? made at least on the wheel too, or on the dashboard though. And yet the edish and the wipers enable long ))) And a quote from the video "the Device based on Win CE", so it's like CCP made )))
Yes, the phone do this crazy navigation, me too annoying, and it loads the satellites for longer, significantly longer, but now there is a removable navigation on the type of PDA, they are better, and the use of satellites almost instantly.
now easy))) at first it was strange — but anything is better than to be distracted by the phone
It's all clear, I meant about the control during the movement, how is it? touch jabbed what you need, and then you look at the janitor a joystick like on my cell phone. And inhibit can the same Cityguide (I have it even can fly, if for example 120 rushing). And in your case I do not understand how moving the tube you can search for the end point of the route, although touch should be in the menus to go from CITY Guide.
navigation from AVTOVAZ — it says a lot
sometimes I'm strong, but after upgrading radars, cameras, lying has become a show, but the new house is still not visible... and when will the new update-it is not clear(((
BUT conveniently, before the eyes of all and do not have somewhere to look-it overrides the inconvenience)))
Thanks, now I will look ))) But in General he probably compared the convenience, as it is compared to a touchscreen?
hahhaha! there is not all so simple...
www.drive2.ru/l/3292787/ here's the comments read
I'm interested to compare it to my convenience ))) here's what you did to me? Where do I look now Priora with navigation? ))) It is now interesting was the question of how convenient it is in comparison with the touchscreen? I like to touch them, but didn't like that quickly the destination point quickly you will look.
well, I was just... speaking... about the navigation if you really want something you can do without the touchscreen))
Yes, I have this is
controlled by a joystick on the switch wipers...
even brushes))))
There is navigation? ))) Seriously, I've only seen on models at the auto show (like maybe I will someday) navigation type glanas Priore.
Noticed WANT: "navigation" ; in don't want: "touch screen". But navigation without tacrine does not happen, or how to implement it? Of course the head unit is all touch and no buttons are evil, because the driver needs to feel your fingers pressing buttons (the driver is just focused on the traffic, and something diminish, add to or just include to the touch, but navigation usually include in advance before the movement). Fully agree that Ford's "MITAC" this is evil, especially how to turn if hands after frost or cold car is all frosted? The touchscreen on the car, usually in the cold it is better not to use (coming down quickly), you first need to warm up the cabin, and then already to include. And if the manufacturer with him a stove?
— "strange new-fangled non-fixed paddle switches and selectors automatic"
in the afternoon a hundred years already))
Getfox
On rear wheel drive? — A great helper in the ing ass for pleasure driving.
On front-wheel drive? — A great helper in winter, in narrowness, when you need to deploy the machine in place. Tighten the handbrake, turn the wheel and on the first turn 90 degrees in place, slowly releasing it...
Maintainability?- At times simpler and easier.
PS and of course, its traditional use, which is taught in driving school. On the mechanics, the assistant when starting on the rise.
When pulling away with the handbrake on the rise with e-now it's even easier sucked him and then gave gas, he shuts down.
Paragraph 2 does not agree! All as well as commonly on the handbrake, only want to keep you!
1. yeah, cool. But 95% of the hamsters didn't even think about it.
2. great, +1, but 99% of hamsters do not even understand what it was about.
3. well then you need a carbureted car. "We need less electronics."
As I understand it, the author talks about the car every day, and not about specific cramp.
On rear wheel drive? — A great helper in the ing ass for pleasure driving.
On front-wheel drive? — A great helper in winter, in narrowness, when you need to deploy the machine in place. Tighten the handbrake, turn the wheel and on the first turn 90 degrees in place, slowly releasing it...
Maintainability?- At times simpler and easier.
PS and of course, its traditional use, which is taught in driving school. On the mechanics, the assistant when starting on the rise.
And I believed, sorry, "fart", it turns out there are people even cooler =)) And that colleagues are constantly made fun of my conservative way of thinking about technology in cars. I'm in BC 2 times in 4 years all came, and now it can't go in there
And tidy the new Audi and Ford cool, informative, responsive... and touch Taco strife...just maybe you have a phobia*? You are accustomed to using the tool (car) in peak mode and at maximum load and believe that the current system will not sustain such claims. Because progress does not stand still...and then treat the projection on the glass*? it is proven that they reduce the percentage of accidents...
— About Elektrotechnik agree...))
I think your view of the cars remained in the early 2000s, where you yourself seem stuck.
In fact, already rolling out offers insurance offices in England and the United States to install a black box, the kind that put on corporate car sometimes, and get great skidoos. The logs will follow. so the user went quiet and didn't risacher, + that do not lower the declared mileage and so on. And on the basis of indicators to calculate the insurance premium.
This idea as data collectors also has the right to life. Very possible, and to this end we teach it all Pribluda...
Wondered pokapatsya at leisure what
Fundamentally different causes and trends. Then it was just a novelty, more for design than functionality.
Now there is a very significant marketing, economic and social motivation for all of this. Reason all of this goes along with the automation of the driver's role and strengthening the supervision for all these rattles now first of all, the data collectors and the rest.
New-fangled things dryuchki it's interesting and cool... But remember the 80s... Then there was the fashion for all things electronic, quickly passed. And now, this too shall pass... enough of the tablet )))
I think in the future the car is not for touch screens. But at least for touch buttons. acrage will be in the car without it already does. But they will certainly media and maybe as a backup interface for those who like to poke at the screen.
Bunnicula I sometimes need at best 2 times per trip, more often — Twister sound which is all by feel.
Climate — ideally 2 times a year. Again, in the push variant it is all by touch, without looking. Therefore, your arguments are absolutely obvious.
About reflection temperature in older machines (know about Saab) to specify the sensitivity of pocketmeter. He then showed much more real.
Well, it's all unattainable dreams. On the Audi A6 C4 was no longer a real temperature display. And again. Here's the pictures then put in with the interiors. In fact it is less secure than many modern interiors. I mean the low position of the screen,\radio. The driver needs to translate the look down. On the road already, even peripheral vision is not enough. Modern interiors of large German Troika is much more thoughtful in this regard. Projection on glass from the same series. So think somehow that not all old habits are good and useful.